The Cut Starts Here:Lyn

**karategirl** · 02-13-2003, 10:13 AM

Thanks w8 that's what I was looking for. I have been putting off getting on the scale because my "FREIND" is visiting and skin folds are out of the question. I was at 143 lbs. last night. Skin folds next week. Found another show, It's NPC. Anyone know if it's natural or not? This one is on April27th . I thinkI'll prepare for this one and if I'm not ready I'll be well on my way for the Springfield show.

Yesterdays meals looked like this:

Meal 1

1 egg+5 whites (nuked)
.5 oz. cheddar
1 cup oatmeal (cooked)

Meal 2

1 scoop whey
1.5 cream
1/3 c. rasp
2 oz. chicken

Meal 3

3.5 oz. chicken
1/2 cup b. rice(cooked)
1 c. brocc.
2/3 Tbsp budda
1 clove gaaalic

Meal 4

3 oz. tuna
1 Tbsp s.m.
1 c. celery
4 egg whites

Meal 5

4oz. chicken
2 c. cauliflower
1.75 Newman's B&V

Meal 6

4.5 oz. chick
2/3 Tbsp flx

Totals 1806

Fat 70 36%
sat 23 12%
poly 15 8%
mono 8 4%

Carbs 82 16%
Fiber 13

Protein 208 48%

**karategirl** · 02-19-2003, 05:27 AM

***WARNING*************WARNING*********WARNING**** This thread contains some bitching and moaning, readers discretion advised!

I have been having trouble with the computer. Everything is loading slow or not at all. Usually I can refresh but, that isn't even getting me anywhere. I'm not a computer person so I get very frustrated.
Anyway,had a very upsetting few days......New scale at the gym, seems the other one was off. Says I weigh more

I had someone different do my skin folds and guess what that is higher too! I'm so depressed. Don't want to but, I'll post em later. SO, looks like my plan for April is off. Seems that I could use the extra time to prepare anyway.
I also saw video footage of the NPC show and I was disappointed to see that the women who won both the middle and heavy weight classes are not NATURAL!!!!!!! The heavy also took the overall title

Not the show for me I guess.
Sorry to vent.
Oh yes, I almost forgot . Now that I am hitting my nutrient breakdown and have increased meal frequency I am still not hungry. What's up with that?w8, DP Should I drop those cals some more or what? I'll post meals for and totals for Mon. and Tues. later.

**w8lifter** · 02-19-2003, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by karategirl

Oh yes, I almost forgot . Now that I am hitting my nutrient breakdown and have increased meal frequency I am still not hungry. What's up with that?w8, DP Should I drop those cals some more or what? I'll post meals for and totals for Mon. and Tues. later.

Usually an indication that you need a tweak of some kind yes...we'll see what DP says

**Dr. Pain** · 02-19-2003, 05:47 AM

Whoa!

1) The scale means very little
2) Consistency was important with the measurements
3) Your posting frequency, esp meals leaves something to be desired
4) even one cheat a day cn ruin everything..READ TWICE
5) "Natural" in the NPC usually means "less than one gram a week" in the women, less than two for the men..sorry

Now with all that said, decrease your carbs by 20 grams /day, chuck the cheese, switch from cream to flax where you can.

PM me....give me time to make room.....any meds, birth control, other you are on....and confess any inconsistency and I/we will try to make sense of this for you!

Last thing.....I see this frequently with heavy aerobics and cardio..sorry

DP

**karategirl** · 02-20-2003, 05:05 AM

Monday Feb 17

Meal 1

1 egg + 5 whites
.5 oz. cheddar
1 c. oats cooked

Meal 2

1 scoop whey
1/3 c. rasp berries
1.5 cream
2 oz. chicken on the side

meal 3

4.33 oz. tuna
1 c. celery
1/4 c. onion
1 oz. pickle
1 Tbsp s.m.

Meal 4

1 scoop whey
1/3 c. rasp
1.5 cream
2 oz. chick on the side

Meal 5

4 oz. tuna
1 c. celery
1/4 c. onion
1 oz. pickle
1 Tbsp s.m.
1/2 c. brown rice cooked on the sidew/ 1 clove of garlic

Meal 6

4.33 oz. chicken
1.75 Tbsp Newmans

Totals 1824
Fat 71 37%
sat 22 12%
poly 20 10%
mono 9 4%
Carbs 79 15%
Fiber 12
Pro 209 48%

**karategirl** · 02-20-2003, 05:12 AM

Tuesday Feb 18th

Meal 1

1 egg+5 whites
.5 oz. cheddar
1 c. oats cooked

meal 2

1 scoop whey
1/3 c. rasp.
1.5 Tbsp cream
2 oz. chick on the side

Meal 3

3.5 oz. Chicken
1 c. broc
1/2 c. brown rice cooked
1 clove garlic
2 tsp. butter

Meal 4

4.33 oz. tuna
1oz. pickle
1/4 c. onion
1 c. celery
1 Tbsp s.m.

Meal 5

4 oz. chicken
2 c. cauliflower
1.75 Tbsp Newman's

Total 1595
Fat 59 35%
sat 20 12%
poly 13 8%
mono 10 6%
Carbs 89 18%
Fiber 20
Protein 175 46%

**karategirl** · 02-20-2003, 05:20 AM

Wen. Feb. 19

Meal 1

1 egg+ 5 whites
.5 cheddar
1 c. oats cooked

Meal 2

2 scoops whey
2 tsp flax

Meal 3

3.5 oz. chick
1 c. broc
2 tsp butter
1 clove garlic

meal 4

4.33 oz. tuna
1 oz. pickle
1c. celery
1/4 c. onion
1 tbsp s.m.

Meal 5

4 oz. Chick
1 Tbsp newman's
1 tsp flax
1c. cauliflower

Meal 6

4.33 oz. chicken
1 Tbsp my flax ( 11 g fat)

Totals 1731
fat 73 40%
sat 18 10%
poly 29 16%
mono 14 8%
Carbs 57 10%
fiber 16
Protein 206 50%

Definatele hungry for meals yesterday, especially in the afternoon!

**w8lifter** · 02-20-2003, 05:30 AM

Meals look good!

**Dr. Pain** · 02-20-2003, 06:05 AM

You know what's fun w/califlower? Fry in 1/2 butter. 1/2 olive oil...with crushed red pepper, onion..and season to taste :P

DP

**karategirl** · 02-20-2003, 10:43 AM

HI w8. DP that sounds scrumptious, i like it hot! I'll try it tonight. I think I'll do it with chick and extra crushed red pepper. :flames shooting out of mouth:

**karategirl** · 02-20-2003, 10:46 AM

Still want to know whats in the secret sauce DP or at least where I can get some......the one you use for the spicy shrimp stir fry.

**karategirl** · 02-21-2003, 10:55 AM

I didn't post this morning because I had trouble over to fit day

nothing would load...anyway yesterday looked like this.

Meal 1

2 eggs + 4 whites
1/2 c. oats cooked

Meal 2

4 oz. chick
1 c. broc
1 tsp butter
1 tsp flax
1 clove garlic

Meal 3

2 scoops whey
1/3 c. rasp.
2 tsp flax

Meal 4

4.33 oz. tuna
1 oz. pickle
1/4 c. onion
1 c. celery
1 Tbsp s.m.

Meal 5

4 oz. chick
1 c. broc
1 tsp butter
1 tsp flax
1 clove garlic

Meal 6

4.33 oz. chick
1 Tbsp flax

Totals 1728

Fat 72 40%
sat 17 9%
poly 32 18%
mono 17 9%

Carbs 54 9%
fiber 18

Protein 210 51%

I may be a hypochondriac but in reading the can o worms thread I think I havemany symptoms related to estrogen dominance, Wilsons syndrom, Reverse t3 and Adrenal burnout......... Off to read and re-read.................

**Dr. Pain** · 02-21-2003, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by karategirl
Still want to know whats in the secret sauce DP or at least where I can get some......the one you use for the spicy shrimp stir fry.

I use 2 or 3 versions:

Sometimes just red peppers, ginger amd shoyu..thickened w/arrowroot or cornstarch (not much)

Ginger, sesame oil, water, cayenne or red pepper, and P-nut butter, shoyu

Coconut Milk, shoyu, red pepper or Thai red cury paste

DP

**karategirl** · 02-22-2003, 05:43 AM

YUMMMMMMM,Thanks DP!

Meals for Friday........

Meal 1

2 whey
1/3 c. rasp
2 tsp flax

Meal 2

2 eggs+ 5 whites
.5 c oats cooked

Meal 3

4.33 oz. tuna
1 c. celery
1/4 c. onion
2 oz. pickle
1 Tbsp s.m.

Meal 4

2 whey
1/3 c. rasp
2 tsp flax

Meal 5

4 oz. chicken
1 c. caulif
1 Tbsp Newman's
1 tsp flax

Meal 6

4.33 oz. chicken
1 Tbsp flax

Totals 1698

Fat 71 40%
sat 14 8%
poly 33 18%
mono 14 8%

Carbs 47 9%
fiber 12

Protein 209 52%

**tigress** · 02-22-2003, 06:32 AM

Originally posted by karategirl

I may be a hypochondriac but in reading the can o worms thread I think I havemany symptoms related to estrogen dominance, Wilsons syndrom, Reverse t3 and Adrenal burnout......... Off to read and re-read.................

Hi girl. You are not alone in that thinking. I have stalled in a big way! It's hard to keep going when you're not seeing results, but we have to do it. (thinking positive now)

**w8lifter** · 02-22-2003, 06:36 AM

Of course ya have to keep going

DP helped danilee figure out what was wrong w/ her...he can do that for you too, he just needs time to figure it out....and to know absolutely everything about you

**Jodi** · 02-22-2003, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by w8lifter
Of course ya have to keep going

DP helped danilee figure out what was wrong w/ her...he can do that for you too, he just needs time to figure it out....and to know absolutely everything about you

KG - Whatever you do, don't give up hope.

I know it can be difficult and you wanna say WTF why do I bother trying so hard. Trust me I know oh too well but don't give in. Keep going and everyday just try even harder. You'll get there!

We'll all get there.

**oceangurl01** · 02-22-2003, 08:45 PM

KG, around what meal you do your workout ?

**karategirl** · 02-23-2003, 03:35 PM

Hey Tigress, w8, Jodi I apreciate the support.....I won't give up! I know at this point it is happening on a cellular level. But that information is over whelming. I do have complete faith here though.

Hi oceangurl , sometimes I workout in the morning and sometimes in the evening. It is never the same due to my work schedule.

**oceangurl01** · 02-23-2003, 09:06 PM

what you eat before your workout ? and after?

**karategirl** · 02-24-2003, 06:36 AM

Hi again Oceangurl, I am not very good at planning my workout around a certain meal. I fit it in when I can and I try to eat every three hours from the time I get up. I can tell you that I consistantly take my complex carbs at my morning meal,usually oats,unless I am having a hard time getting my children out of the house and my meals packed. Then I grab a shake b/c it is fast. If you look back over my journal I was having complex carbs at meal 1 and 3 and berries at meal 2 and 4 but I cut my carbs by 20 g's /day so I am still working that out...I am tryint to do half the amouts at meals 1 and 3 but to be honest lately that third meal has not had complex carbs in it......sorry so wordy. Did I answer your question?

**karategirl** · 02-24-2003, 06:43 AM

Sat. Feb 22

Meal 1

2 eggs+ 5 whites
1/2 c. oats cooked

Meal 2

2 whey
1/3 c. rasp
2 tsp flax

Meal 3

4.33 oz. tuna
1oz pickle
1 c. celery
1/4 c. onion
1 tbsp s.m

Meal 4

2 whey
1/3 c. rasp
2 tsp flax

Meal 5

4 oz. shrimp
1 c. broc
1 clove garlic
1 Tbsp olive oil

Meal 6

4.33 oz. chick
1 Tbsp flax

Total 1761

Fat 76 41%
sat 14 8%
poly 32% 17%
Mono 22 12%

Carbs 55 9%
fiber 15

Protein 210 50%

**karategirl** · 02-24-2003, 06:49 AM

Sun. Feb 23

Meal 1

2 egss+5 whites
1/2 c. oats cooked

Meal 2

2 whey
1/3 c. rasp
2 tsp flax

Meal 3

4oz. chick
1 c. caulif.
1 Tbsp Newmans
1 tsp flax

Meal 4

4.33 oz. tuna
1 c. celery
1/4 c. onion
1 oz. pickle
1 Tsp s.m.

Meal 5

4 oz. shrimp
1 c broc
1 clove garlic
1 Tbsp olive oil

Meal 6

4.33 oz. chick
1 Tbsp flax

Total 1733

Fat 77 42%
sat. 13 7%
poly 30 16%
mono 23 12%

Carbs 46 8%
fiber 13

Protein 206 49%

**oceangurl01** · 02-24-2003, 05:00 PM

yas thank you. the reason why i asked is because i workout 7 am an hour after i get up and im not sure what i should be eating in my first meal.

**karategirl** · 02-25-2003, 10:05 AM

Hi Oceangirl! If everything goes well I try to get a complex carb prior to lifting. Try some oats, brown rice or sweet potato with what you need for protein and fat in your first meal to power that workout.

Mon. Feb 24

Meal 1

2 eggs+ 5 whites
1/2 c. oats cooked

Meal 2

4 oz. chick
1 c. caulif
1 Tbsp Newman's B&V
1 tsp Flax

Meal 3

4 oz. chick
1 c. cauli
1 Tbsp s.m.

Meal 4

4 oz. chick
1/3 c. brown rice
2 tsp butter

* strength trained and then taught k.b. class

Meal 5

4.33 oz. tuna
1 c. celery
1 oz. pickle
1 Tbsp s.m.

Totals are low! 1362

Fat 51 36%
sat 18 9%
Poly 16 11%
mono 13 9%

Carbs 48 12%
Fiber 11

Protein 171 53%

**oceangurl01** · 02-25-2003, 05:14 PM

thanx karategirl! others tell me not to eat any carb before workout so, i can burn fat ! is this true?

**karategirl** · 02-28-2003, 05:31 AM

Sorry I've been absent. I've been dealing with some family stuff and haven't had time to log it in at fit day and post here untill this morning.

Tues. Feb 25
Meal 1

1.5 oz. lean ground beef
1 egg+ 5 whites
.5 c oats cooked

Meal 2

4.33 oz. tuna
1 c. celery
1 oz. pickle
1 T s.m

Meal 3

2 whey
1/3 c. rasp
2 tsp flax

Meal 4

4.33 oz. chick
1 c. coocked veggies( celery, onion,carrot, mushroom)
1/3 c. brown rice
1 c. chick stock

Meal 5

4.33 oz chick
2 tsp flax

Totals 1520

Fat 45 28%
sat 11 4%
poly 17 11%
mono11 7%

Carbs 88 21%
fiber 13

Protein 183 51%

**karategirl** · 02-28-2003, 05:50 AM

Wens Feb 26

Meal 1

2eggs+5 whites
.5 c. oats

Meal 2

4.33 oz. tuna
1 c. celery
1 oz. pickle
1 T s.m.

Meal 3

2 whey
1/3 . rasp
2 tsp flax

Meal 4

4 oz. chick
1 c. cauli
1 Tbl newmans
2 tsp flax

Meal 5

4 oz. shrimp
.5 c celery
.5 c onion
.5 c. pepper

Meal 6

4.33 oz. chick
2 tsp flax

totals 1497

fat 68 43%
sat 13 8%
poly 24 15%
mono 21 13%

carbs 58% 13%
fiber 13

protein 159 45%

something doesn't look right to me in the totals. I'll check fitday and edit later.

**karategirl** · 02-28-2003, 05:56 AM

Thers. Feb 27

meal 1

2 whey
2 tsp. flax
1/3 c. rasp

meal 2

2 eggs+ 5 whites
1/2 c. oats cooked

meal 3

4 oz. chick
2 tsp flax
5 Tbsp salsa

meal 4

4.33 oz. tuna
1 oz. pickle
1 Tbsp s.m.

Meal 5

4 oz. chick
2 tsp flax
5 Tbsp salsa

totals 1355

fat 49 34%
sat 10 7%
poly 22 16%
mono 11 8%

carbs 43 11%
fiber 7

protein 175 55%

somethings seems off here too... My mind is somewhere else. I'll fix it later. Gotta get the kids to school

**Dr. Pain** · 02-28-2003, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by karategirl

totals 1497

fat 68 43%
sat 13 8%
poly 24 15%
mono 21 13%

carbs 58% 13%
fiber 13

protein 159 45%

something doesn't look right to me in the totals. I'll check fitday and edit later.

I was gonna say that about Tues, carbs seemed high, fat low. Your calories seem to low here too.

DP

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