The cut starts here: Natalie

w8lifter · 03-11-2003, 06:15 AM

Hi Nat...good to see you posting again

tigress · 03-11-2003, 04:43 PM

Thanks Leah.

You are looking marrrrvelllous.

Made it to the gym, strength not too damaged. Quick workout, only had 30 min.

db press 20/12, 30/8, 30/8, 35/7
cable cross 20/10 20/10 30/8
seated fly 40-30/10 40/10 40/9
seated press 60/12 65/8 65/8

Dr. Pain · 03-11-2003, 05:04 PM

Hi Nat

You doing OK?

DP

tigress · 03-12-2003, 05:50 AM

GMA!

LOL Ummmm, yea.

I am feeling much better and am taking my meds and the otc stuff that I decided to add to my usual vits, and not thinking about it apart from that. I can clear my ear now so I am hopeful about scuba in 36 days, even if I can't dive I don't think I will be needing a tube in my ear now. Did you see my post here about what I have added? What did you think? My supps now are:
kelp 1x, acidophilus 3x, multiv 1x, time control b+ 1x, primrose oil 3x, multimineral 1x, plus the t4. My nutrition atlas reads that the kelp and bcomplex may help the thyroidism and cholesterol, and the acidophilus may help with the cholesterol. I couldn't find the supp you mentioned to me, and I am not sure how many more pills I could swallow in a day anyhow. If my next blood tests aren't improved maybe I could buy it from you?

I am not being too strict with my diet right now, once I get the few issues stabilized, then we will be able to have some stuff to cut out. I plan on keeping cals between 1600 and 2000 (high pro)and continuing to time my eating every 3-4 hours.

tigress · 03-12-2003, 06:08 AM

7.30am
2 eggs
4 egg whites
1oz oatmeal
jasmine green tea

11.30am
lunch out with sister-
thinking a lunch size shrimp/pasta/oil dish

2.30pm
6oz chix
.5 tb newmans
green beans
.5 tb butter

workout-back
post workout
5oz baked sole
1tb mayo

7.00pm
2.5 scoop whey
1 tb flax
1 tb flaxseeds
1oz unsweetened pure cranberry juice
1/2 c blueberries

will update with macros this evening

Dr. Pain · 03-12-2003, 07:00 AM

I think your meals are better than you think they are...and Yes...I saw and like your supplementation.

As far as T3 versus T4 I told you that I'd update you soon.....both Mrs. Pain and I are less physically tired and more mentally alert (3 weeks for me, 2 for her)...it is however NOT helping with the mental/emotional fatique...although if you keep stupid people away from me...I'd say my moods have improved.

I have developed a little strange BO (I'm very sensitive to smell, and may be the only one who notices this)......but this usually happens to me when I tap fat stores.....I release stored toxins...someties even smell like coffee. So I know I'm burning fat now.

I have lost as of yesterday, 12 pounds since X-mas.....unfortunately the math says this is not all BF.....but the last 4.25 since T4 with a definate change/lowerig of VAT (visceral adipose tissue)....Mrs. P looks a little leaner in the torso also, but mainly just in the morning...

Keep it up Nat, it's all about attitude...and your a survivor/winner!

DP

tigress · 03-12-2003, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
I think your meals are better than you think they are...DP

Does this mean that I can have some martinis this weekend?

I am trying to keep my meals somewhat clean but not going overboard simply because i will get less frustrated if I am not working my ass off for zero results.

Thanks for the update on you and the Misses. That is great news about the fat loss for you, and if she is looking slimmer in the torso, that's great for her too. How long are you planning on using the t3 for? Are you looking at this as a permenant medication or a temporary thing?

Dr. Pain · 03-12-2003, 08:25 AM

We both get retested at 4 weeks...and we are not sure yet......kelp and desicated thyroid only got us so far for a few years...and this "feels" much better......and may be psychologically addictive (Leaness is).....

Anyway.....you have to earn those Martinis, and you know it!

(post and be good all week)

DP

tigress · 03-12-2003, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
Anyway.....you have to earn those Martinis, and you know it!

(post and be good all week)

DP

OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH! Incentive! I like that

w8lifter · 03-12-2003, 12:56 PM

Hey....can I have an incentive?

Dr. Pain · 03-12-2003, 04:35 PM

Why....nothing but an ass chewing has ever worked on you!?

DP

w8lifter · 03-12-2003, 04:38 PM

Dr. Pain · 03-12-2003, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by w8lifter

Let's recap....

Jodi performs for fear of her genes

Britney performs for sugar/cheats

Nat performs for Alcohol

w8....w8's till the last minute, get's her ass chewed, then performs for Pain!

DP

Dr. Pain · 03-12-2003, 04:43 PM

...and some U-Turns!

DP

w8lifter · 03-12-2003, 04:44 PM

....I would perform for chocolate or ice cream or cheesecake

tigress · 03-12-2003, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by w8lifter
Hey....can I have an incentive?

Here's some incentive for you L.....standing on stage, in your suit, looking fab, smiling, and taking home the trophy!

But me....just gimme some damn booze!

w8lifter · 03-12-2003, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tigress
Here's some incentive for you L.....standing on stage, in your suit, looking fab, smiling, and taking home the trophy!

But me....just gimme some damn booze!

Oh yeah...I guess huh

Dr. Pain · 03-12-2003, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by w8lifter

....I would perform for chocolate or ice cream or cheesecake

What? Will you grow an ass in front of our eyes?

DP

w8lifter · 03-12-2003, 08:34 PM

Dr. Pain · 03-12-2003, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by w8lifter

Always the "Performer"

DP

tigress · 03-13-2003, 07:38 AM

Couldn't make it to the gym yesterday so did it this morning.

Rushed today, didn't finish eating meal 1 til now, and it's 9.30.

Hit the gym this morning though, did back and cardio. My better half bought me gloves yesterday so i tried them out today, and I like them. They are really small and streamlined.

lat pulldown 90/12, 120/12, 135/8, 135/8
seated single pulley row 30/8 x 3
back extension 70/12, 87.5/12, 87.5/12
rg close pulldown 120/6 x 3

25 min on stair machine hr between 145-160

9.30am
2 eggs
4 egg whites
1oz oatmeal
jasmine green tea

12pm
5oz chix
some mixed veggies
few pcs fuscilli
1 ts butter

3.30pm
detour bar

7.00pm
2.5 scoop whey
1 tb flax
1 tb flaxseeds
1oz unsweetened pure cranberry juice
1/2 c blueberries

Today is going to be crazy busy for me. If I get hungry and need more food or meals I will be adding an apple, tuna and mayo meal.

Dr. Pain · 03-13-2003, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tigress

12pm

few pcs fuscilli

3.30pm
detour bar

We'll start at 5............Penalty- 1 Martini....4 remaining

DP

tigress · 03-13-2003, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
We'll start at 5............Penalty- 1 Martini....4 remaining

DP

Okay- I didn't eat the fuscilli, and consider the detour bar swapped for an apple, tuna and mayo.

:whewthatwasclose:

Dr. Pain · 03-13-2003, 11:40 AM

Nope...you have 4 left

Your Job Description: Don't Fuck Up!

DP

w8lifter · 03-13-2003, 12:04 PM

fuscilli huh?

tigress · 03-13-2003, 12:16 PM

I didn't eat it W8!

w8lifter · 03-13-2003, 12:18 PM

But you were thinking evil thoughts still...I'm sure you must have released insulin

Bladezz · 03-13-2003, 12:55 PM

What is a U TURN....?

tigress · 03-13-2003, 01:13 PM

U turn is a protein bar. Check out the nutrition forum or do a search for more info.

03-13-2003, 12:55 PM	#328
Bladezz Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 247	What is a U TURN....?
	*"Turn your head before you hit the concrete"* **** Bladezz ****

03-11-2003, 06:15 AM	#301
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	Hi Nat...good to see you posting again

03-11-2003, 04:43 PM	#302
tigress Member Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Jamaica bound! Posts: 364	Thanks Leah. You are looking marrrrvelllous. Made it to the gym, strength not too damaged. Quick workout, only had 30 min. db press 20/12, 30/8, 30/8, 35/7 cable cross 20/10 20/10 30/8 seated fly 40-30/10 40/10 40/9 seated press 60/12 65/8 65/8

03-11-2003, 05:04 PM	#303
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Hi Nat You doing OK? DP

03-12-2003, 05:50 AM	#304
tigress Member Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Jamaica bound! Posts: 364	GMA! LOL Ummmm, yea. I am feeling much better and am taking my meds and the otc stuff that I decided to add to my usual vits, and not thinking about it apart from that. I can clear my ear now so I am hopeful about scuba in 36 days, even if I can't dive I don't think I will be needing a tube in my ear now. Did you see my post here about what I have added? What did you think? My supps now are: kelp 1x, acidophilus 3x, multiv 1x, time control b+ 1x, primrose oil 3x, multimineral 1x, plus the t4. My nutrition atlas reads that the kelp and bcomplex may help the thyroidism and cholesterol, and the acidophilus may help with the cholesterol. I couldn't find the supp you mentioned to me, and I am not sure how many more pills I could swallow in a day anyhow. If my next blood tests aren't improved maybe I could buy it from you? I am not being too strict with my diet right now, once I get the few issues stabilized, then we will be able to have some stuff to cut out. I plan on keeping cals between 1600 and 2000 (high pro)and continuing to time my eating every 3-4 hours.

03-12-2003, 06:08 AM	#305
tigress Member Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Jamaica bound! Posts: 364	7.30am 2 eggs 4 egg whites 1oz oatmeal jasmine green tea 11.30am lunch out with sister- thinking a lunch size shrimp/pasta/oil dish 2.30pm 6oz chix .5 tb newmans green beans .5 tb butter workout-back post workout 5oz baked sole 1tb mayo 7.00pm 2.5 scoop whey 1 tb flax 1 tb flaxseeds 1oz unsweetened pure cranberry juice 1/2 c blueberries will update with macros this evening

03-12-2003, 07:00 AM	#306
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	I think your meals are better than you think they are...and Yes...I saw and like your supplementation. As far as T3 versus T4 I told you that I'd update you soon.....both Mrs. Pain and I are less physically tired and more mentally alert (3 weeks for me, 2 for her)...it is however NOT helping with the mental/emotional fatique...although if you keep stupid people away from me...I'd say my moods have improved. I have developed a little strange BO (I'm very sensitive to smell, and may be the only one who notices this)......but this usually happens to me when I tap fat stores.....I release stored toxins...someties even smell like coffee. So I know I'm burning fat now. I have lost as of yesterday, 12 pounds since X-mas.....unfortunately the math says this is not all BF.....but the last 4.25 since T4 with a definate change/lowerig of VAT (visceral adipose tissue)....Mrs. P looks a little leaner in the torso also, but mainly just in the morning... Keep it up Nat, it's all about attitude...and your a survivor/winner! DP

03-12-2003, 08:25 AM	#308
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	We both get retested at 4 weeks...and we are not sure yet......kelp and desicated thyroid only got us so far for a few years...and this "feels" much better......and may be psychologically addictive (Leaness is)..... Anyway.....you have to earn those Martinis, and you know it! (post and be good all week) DP

03-12-2003, 12:56 PM	#310
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	Hey....can I have an incentive?

03-12-2003, 04:35 PM	#311
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Why....nothing but an ass chewing has ever worked on you!? DP

03-12-2003, 04:38 PM	#312
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964

03-12-2003, 04:43 PM	#314
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	...and some U-Turns! DP

03-12-2003, 04:44 PM	#315
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	....I would perform for chocolate or ice cream or cheesecake

03-12-2003, 08:34 PM	#319
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964

03-13-2003, 07:38 AM	#321
tigress Member Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Jamaica bound! Posts: 364	Couldn't make it to the gym yesterday so did it this morning. Rushed today, didn't finish eating meal 1 til now, and it's 9.30. Hit the gym this morning though, did back and cardio. My better half bought me gloves yesterday so i tried them out today, and I like them. They are really small and streamlined. lat pulldown 90/12, 120/12, 135/8, 135/8 seated single pulley row 30/8 x 3 back extension 70/12, 87.5/12, 87.5/12 rg close pulldown 120/6 x 3 25 min on stair machine hr between 145-160 9.30am 2 eggs 4 egg whites 1oz oatmeal jasmine green tea 12pm 5oz chix some mixed veggies few pcs fuscilli 1 ts butter 3.30pm detour bar 7.00pm 2.5 scoop whey 1 tb flax 1 tb flaxseeds 1oz unsweetened pure cranberry juice 1/2 c blueberries Today is going to be crazy busy for me. If I get hungry and need more food or meals I will be adding an apple, tuna and mayo meal.

03-13-2003, 11:40 AM	#324
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Nope...you have 4 left Your Job Description: Don't Fuck Up! DP

03-13-2003, 12:04 PM	#325
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	fuscilli huh?

03-13-2003, 12:16 PM	#326
tigress Member Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Jamaica bound! Posts: 364	I didn't eat it W8!

03-13-2003, 12:18 PM	#327
w8lifter Join Date: May 2001 Location: Around..... Posts: 14,964	But you were thinking evil thoughts still...I'm sure you must have released insulin

03-13-2003, 01:13 PM	#329
tigress Member Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Jamaica bound! Posts: 364	U turn is a protein bar. Check out the nutrition forum or do a search for more info.