Thread: Rock and Rollin...from fat to fit

Originally Posted by bigboi73

Wow there is a lot going on with this cycle. I think I would be too dumb to keep track. Are you finding it possible to add size and lose fat at the same time? I've always had issues doing both at once.

This is the most complicated cycle I've ever done. I've had to back off a few things. I got an app to track all of it - pill reminder by drugs.com. Works pretty good and you can enter injectables and orals.

As far as size I'm tipping the scales at 240 this morning and still very vascular and still caliper out at 10 on my calipers. I can see my legs growing and my back thickness from all the deadlifts and shruggs. I lost a lot of bf in the first two weeks and in six weeks I'll switch back to short esters an Keto diet to strip the water an the rest of the fat off me.

Never tried it before so this is my experiment. So far my body has responded very well.

Originally Posted by RockShawn

This is the most complicated cycle I've ever done. I've had to back off a few things. I got an app to track all of it - pill reminder by drugs.com. Works pretty good and you can enter injectables and orals.

As far as size I'm tipping the scales at 240 this morning and still very vascular and still caliper out at 10 on my calipers. I can see my legs growing and my back thickness from all the deadlifts and shruggs. I lost a lot of bf in the first two weeks and in six weeks I'll switch back to short esters an Keto diet to strip the water an the rest of the fat off me.

Never tried it before so this is my experiment. So far my body has responded very well.

Keep up the hard work ROCK, looking forward to seeing those labs bro

Looks like it is working to me Rock. You can definitely see great progress in the pics. I appreciate you sharing your results. It's got me thinking about my future cycles.

Thanks for the positives guys. Bloodwork should give me the basis of the other test I was using. I pinned the AW test E on Monday after the bloodwork. In 3 weeks I'll test again to see how the two compare.

Leg Workout Monday:
Squats 1x12 @135 warmup
3x8 @ 225, 245, 245 (only did three cause I was feeling a pull in my lower abdomin
Sissy Squats (deep) 4x8 @ BW (who the hell named these?)
Balance Lunges 3x8 @ BW
Romanian DL 4x8 @ 160 on cables
Standing Curls 4x8 @ 100 - single leg machine
Superset:
Weighted decline crunch 4x10 w/ 35lb plate
Seated Calves 4x20 @ 115

Meal timing got screwed up Monday. Also didn't take dbol and Halo early enough. Tried chewing them up, but they still didn't hit till mid WO.
Pinned AW Test E with old Deca - some pip, a little sore, but used 1" in right glute instead of 1.25"

Weight as of Tuesday morning (post Void) 241.5
Let's stay on schedule today.

Much Better Chest day yesterday. Missed a meal but took all my supps on time. Ttied a little experiment since I volunteered myself for a contest I have no business being in. I need to flat BB bench a lot, so one of the trainers suggested doing some sets with bands in addition to the weights. Didin't make my 1RM try of 365, but i was closer than I thought - think I warmed up a little too much. Here's what happened.

Flat BB Bench:
15 @ bar and 90lb bands
12 @ 135 + 90lb bands
12 @ 135 + 90lb bands
4 @ 315
1 @ 365 - fail
15 @ 135 + 90lb bands
****Tried the bands to help with explosiveness off the bottom, bassically wore myself out - good workout though.

Incline BB
6 @ 225
6 @ 255

Incline DB
10 @ 70's
6 @ 100's
8 @ 75's
******I was all over the place trying to get in my rep range of 8

Incline Flye
8 @ 55's
8 @ 55's
8 @ 55's
8 @ 55's

Cable Crossovers
4 sets of 20 @ 70 on the machine I was on
Used drop sets

HAnging leg raises ***** 4X10
Donkey Calves ******* 4x20 @ 270

Chest was shot - really felt my tri's too. thinking the bands are responsible for that.

Thursday Update:

Pinned the AW test E again today, no initial pip but I was sore as hell tonight. Meals went well, I missed one but felt fine in the gym, all supps were on time today.

Weight: 241 - still seeing the top two rows of abs. feeling a little puffy but I stopped the proviron untill later in the cycle and the mast till later. I'll start back on Clen and t3 next week after a 2 week break - this time I'll stay on all the way through with ketotifen

**Back**
Pull ups:
5 x 8ish @ my BW 241 - just taking these to failure. last set was 5 reps

Wide grip pull downs:
4 x 8 @ 200

Deadllfit:
12 @ 135
10 @ 225
10 @ 225
10 @ 275
10 @ 225

Bent Over Rows:
10 @ 225
8 @ 225
8 @ 225
8 @ 225

Incline DB Curls:
10 @ 35's
10 @ 35's
10 @ 35's
9 @ 40's
8 @ 50's

Standing Concentration curls:
12 @ 30
12 @ 30
12 @ 30
10 @ 35
10 @ 35

Weighted decline crunch and Seated Calf Raises
5x10 @ 35lb plate *********4 x 20 @ 115

A little dissapointed in my lifts, not all were to failure. The deadlifts really wore me out after doing pull-ups, but I need width more than thichness right now so I'm ok with it. Had little energy left for Biceps, but they got pretty crampy anyways.

Workouts are looking solid Rockshawn...How's the higher dose of adex working for ya?
How mgs of E are you on

Originally Posted by Dath

Workouts are looking solid Rockshawn...How's the higher dose of adex working for ya?
How mgs of E are you on

Thanks bro. Still have knots under my nipples. If the adex doesn't knock em out in a week I'll hit the nolva. Still sitting at 1g of E. think I'll go 1.2 next two weeks while I'm still on deca. And may change some stuff to extend this out a little. I've got some npp coming and may hit that the E, tren and mast for 6 weeks before doing the cut. The show I'm trying to hit isn't till June. I plan on leaving myself a good amount of time to cut.

Originally Posted by RockShawn

Thanks bro. Still have knots under my nipples. If the adex doesn't knock em out in a week I'll hit the nolva. Still sitting at 1g of E. think I'll go 1.2 next two weeks while I'm still on deca. And may change some stuff to extend this out a little. I've got some npp coming and may hit that the E, tren and mast for 6 weeks before doing the cut. The show I'm trying to hit isn't till June. I plan on leaving myself a good amount of time to cut.

In June Right on bro!
What weight you shooting to step on stage at?

Originally Posted by Dath

In June Right on bro!
What weight you shooting to step on stage at?

My goal is 220-225 - I've never been on stage before, nor have I ever actually cut to the point of being ready to step on stage. This is all new to me. I may be heavier or lighter, really dunno. I'm gonna give myself 16 weeks to cut to make sure I get there.

So basically this cycle is somewhat of a moving target. I think I'm gonna just extend the bulk phase until I'm 16 weeks out then really get strict on the diet and start the cutting compounds.

Friday Log Update:
meals went well today. still sore as hell in the left glute from the shot. Supps all on time.

Shoulders and Triceps

Rotator cable
2 x 18 inside
3 x 12 outside

Overhead DB Presses
12 @ 65 - warmup
10 @ 85
8 @ 90
8 @ 80
8 @ 70

seated Front Raises
4 x 10 @ 35's

Leaning Laterals
4 x 12 @ 35's

Reverse Pec Deck
12 @ 60
12 @ 80
12 @ 100
10 @ 120
8 @ 120

Tricep pressdowns
5 x 10 @ 190 (full stack on triple pulley cable)

Skull crushers
5 X 8 @ 70

Workout felt good. Had a lot of aggression thanks to the AW Halo pre workout. I'm not really feeling good hard pumps yet, I am starting to notice that I'm holding more water - which was to be expected with the DEca and EQ both. Vascularity is still high and I don't seem to be gaining any fat, just extra water. Gonna finnish out 2 more weeks of the DEca and switch to NPP for 6 weeks and add tren for pumps.

Saturday and Sunday = rest

Sunday afternoon, Left glute from Test e injection still very sore. Upper body is pretty sore as well, really hit the shoulders hard. May take it easy tomorrow and try to work gluteus and hams, don't think squatting is gonna be possible with the pain i'm in. We'll see in the morning.

I started the clen and T3 again today for the next two weeks. Tomorrow I'll be adding tren also with the test e, Deca and eq.

No workout on Monday. I pinned my gear at 10am like always, this time I decided to completely isolate the Test E to see if that's where the pip is coming from. In the past two injections I blended the Test E with the deca 300 I am taking. I've never had pip from the deca before, but I thought I'd separate just to make sure.

Pinned right glute with AW test E only at 10am yesterday and I couldn't walk or sit by 4pm. I am Holy fucking sore. I guess the Deca was actually taming the Test down cause the other injection site (left glute, low) took 1cc deca 300, 1cc EQ 300 and .5cc Tren Ace 100 - with no pip at all.

So no legs for me on Monday, and I'll prolly be resting out today as well.

Tuesday. No workout, I feel horrible about missing, but there is no way I can limp around the gym. Plus my elbows are starting to ache a little and I think the extra rest now will help me propel forward next week and beyond.

How's the right glute feeling today Rock

You been training hard, Couple days rest can give a nice boost!
How many weeks with the Deca now?

Originally Posted by Dath

How's the right glute feeling today Rock

You been training hard, Couple days rest can give a nice boost!
How many weeks with the Deca now?

I'm hurting pretty bad still. Walking without a limp today . Deca has been in play for 5 weeks now. Was gonna take it 6 then I'm gonna switch to NPP for a couple of weeks as I transition to prop over the long esters.

I think this will be a good time for a short break to heal up. Really looking forward to getting the tren in full swing and hit the masteron.

Today more rest, maybe a massage and definitely some sauna. Diet has fallen apart a little as I've been having more carbs, mostly pasta and some rice. Refill my glycogen stores and hit it again as soon as I can.

Ok tried to go to the gym tonight and think I did more damage than good. I think what did me in was an arm wrestling challenge Sunday night. DOMS just now setting in from that.

Definitely resting out this week. Shoulders are still way sore from friday, and my elbows are killing me. Starting some peps for the elbows - tb500 see if I can get them back better. Lots of rest, glutamine and ibuprofen for me.

A week of rest sucks so bad. Mentally I'm feeling defeated, but deep down, I know it has done me good. Restarting Workouts today. I've revamped my lifting schedule as I may have been overtraining a bit lately. I'm simplifying and focusing more on my lagging areas.

Started DP cut mix today - Stuff is so smooth. Still have a couple of weeks on E at lowered dose, not more Deca and EQ increased to 900. Still a knot under the left nip, upped dex to 1mg and Nolva to 40mg. Also quit dbol - I feel a ton better too.

Let's play catch up here.

Monday: Back and Bi's

This is the last time I'll train these together. I never get a good pump on Bi's after lifting back.

Pulldowns:
12 x 180 warmup
10 x 240
9 x 240
8 x 220 - explode and accellerate
8 x 220 - explode and accellerate

Bent Over Rows - kept body parallel to the ground
12 x 95
10 x 135
10 x 135
8 x 155 - explode and accellerate
8 x 155 - explode and accellerate

Low Rows - Cables
12 x 160
10 x 200
8 x 200
8 x 180
8 x 180

Standing Biceps
12 x 75
10 x 105
10 x 105
8 x 105 - explode and accellerate
6 x 105 - explode and accellerate

Incline DB curls
10 x 40's
8 x 40's
8 x 30's
8 x 30's

Standing Concentration Curls
4 @ 10 x 25's

Standing Calves
4 @ 20 x 270 - 6 plates

Feeling pretty run down. Elbows are killing. Gonna get help with the diet. It's not really workning for me. I'm not gaining weight, but I am definitely getting leaner and harder.

This week I started the DP CutMix at 225mg ED + 50mg Tren A, EQ at 900mg/wk, Test E @ 500mg/wk. Ai's are still way up due to lump under my nipples. Ordered some formeron, caber and letro too - one of those has to work.

IN4 the ride Rock! Hit it hard

Originally Posted by ~RaZr~

IN4 the ride Rock! Hit it hard

Thx bro!

Alright, lets get back on track! Last week was crazy. I did hit the gym on Tuesaday and Friday last week, but just had so much going on I couldn't log. The weekend was great, great date with my wife and plenty of rest.

Here are some update photos from last thursday.

So I also started a new diet this week laid out by a local guy helping me with my prep. All whole foods, no powders: Looks like this:
M1: 1 cup egg whites
1 omega egg
1 cup oat meal, dry measure


M2: 7oz (cooked weight) chicken
8oz sweet potato


M3: 9oz (cooked weight) tilapia
vegtables


M4: 7oz (cooked weight) chicken
8oz sweet potato


M5: (post workout meal) 8oz tilapia
1 cup cooked white rice


M6: 7oz chicken
vegtables

And some of my supps changed a bit too. A lot more carbs than I've been taking in, but we'll see how I respond. 15 weeks to show. I'll Post up Weekly pics so I can track better.

Monday: Time to Work - Gonna go to a three day per week format for a little while. Too much family stuff going on right now for any more than that. Also started cardio this week. Yipee!

6:30 AM - 45 minutes LISS @140BPM

Push Workout:
Overhead Presses: To Failure
12 @ 55's - warm up
10 @ 75's
10 @ 75's
8 @ 75's - Explode and accelerate
6 @ 75's - Explode and accelerate

Incline Press: really felt this in the upper chest after fatiguing the delts - To Failure
12 @ 55's - warm up
10 @ 85's
10 @ 85's
8 @ 85's
8 @ 75's

HS - Wide Chest: to failure each time
10 @ 6 Plates
8 @ 6 Plates
8 @ 6 Plates
8 @ 6 Plates

Tricep Pressdowns:
10 @ 160
8 @ 160
8 @ 160
12 @ 160, 130, 100 drop set

Leaning Leteral Raises: just to finish off the delts
12 @ 30's
10 @ 35's
10 @ 35's

Ab Ball Crunches:
2 sets @ 10 straight + 10 each side

New preworkout EVP has really helped with focus the last 2 workouts. Pleanty of energy. The tren pump is awesome and getting better each workout.

Tuesday:

6:30 AM - 45 Minutes LISS @ 140bpm

No lifting today. Lets concentrate on Diet!

Gear breakdown:

Using DP Cut Mix 150 @ 1.5cc ed = 525 Test Prop, 525 Tren Ace, 525 Mast Prop
Adding to that 25mg Tren Ace and 25mg Mast to bring the grand total to:

Test Prop - 525mg/wk
Tren Ace - 700mg/wk
Mast Prop - 700mg/wk
EQ - 600mg/wk
Clen/T3 at 100mcg/50mcg - 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
HGH - 4iu - 5 on 2 off
Hcg - 500iu/wk
Arimidex .5mg ed
Nolva 20mg ed - Trying to kill a gyno lump
Caber @ .5mg/day and Letro @ 2.5mg/day to kill the gyno I got Going on right now.

Blood Work shows my Testosterone off the chart - 3 weeks ago my Free Test was 1200.
As of yesterday its over 1500 (they didn't even give me an actual number) Estradiol is 105.3 - I need help analyzing this info. My HDL is 14 also - This is down from 34 just 6 week ago.

Looking awesome Rock! You're legs look great! You are doing a great job and your diet and workouts are clearly working for you.

Thank you Miss! Now if only my midsection would let go of the rest of the fat. Lol. I must have patience.