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    Angry Harbinger of Sorrow... take the carbs away...

    New name... needed a damn new name LOL.

    cut will continue for a few weeks... like 6-7weeks ... but only 3 more until spring break ... oh, well... 13.5% ain't exactly a tub of lard state. still would like it to be closer to 8%
    Oh, well... I think I'm gonna add in 2 HI cardio sessions/wk ... and then stop after 3wks of it as I'll be starting on some FB supps by/b4 then and cut the cardio to 1 or 0/wk. Keep cals same and macros as well...

    190-1 @ 13.5% BF and this calorie deficit ain't doin' much...
    but I'll hold out hope since I don't wanna go any less ... I'm already down to 2100 kcals

    PCF:
    60/25/15 ish

    keeping post WO carbs and taking in a 'lil more milk throughout the day... in my coffee addiction (LOL, I'm literally taking in 30-35 shots of espresso/day w/ zero jitters or elevated rhr)

    split will remain the same, though I might take it a 'lil differently

    currently it's a 4day split over 4 days... I may go for a 4day split over 5 days...

    M- chest/bi
    T- delts/traps/hams
    W- quad/calves
    Th- off
    F- back (minus my usual tricep WO)
    S- Chest/bi
    Su- off

    M- delts/traps/hams ...

    basically doin' 5d/wk of a 4day split, now assymetrically.

    It's a thought...

    any opinions?
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
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    Eh, bdy wt has fluctuated b/w 187.5 and 189 over the past 3 days... but my strength's on the way up again ... I know I always say that poundage doesn't mean dick, but it is an added perk

    Back on Sat... strength up a 'lil
    Chest/bis... up 20lbs on incline, and up a 'lil on bis
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    My comment: that's a heck of a lot of strong coffee! The problem with that is if you accidentally miss your shots you will have a splittin' headache! Why so much caffeine?

    Do you carb up?

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    Forced immunization to it's effects LOL

    it doesn't keep me up or give me jitters
    just started out low and drak as I pleased I guess... I'm starting to believe that my body has ttrouble metabolizing alcohol and caffeine as well as developing quick/high tolerances to a # of substances. Just a theory... but sodium usinate does nothing for me anymore either

    Tues:
    Delts went about as average...
    presses@ 170 for 10, 190 for 8, 210 for 6, 170 for 8
    iso-lat/delt raises- @ 20 for 7 sets of 8-10
    flyes- 112.5 for 12, 125 for 10, 137.5 for 10, 150 for 8, 162.5 for 6

    wt is fluctuating like mad
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Originally posted by lina
    Do you carb up?
    Ummm... haven't in a week and won't for another week (h2o ret)... but I'm keeping the post W/O carbs. and I've compressed my w/o this week for travelling as fri is my 1st day of spring break ... but training will continue through the madness
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    awww... shit, had some carbs last night and I'm feelin like shit
    btw, carb solution bars are pretty damn good no gag reflex even
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Fuqqing carb-guilt
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Hey, Cornfed,

    Could you post a sample day of your diet?

    I am having difficulting getting my fat that low, esp. with the flax added to shakes specifically to add fat. I would like to see how you eat to stay close to PCF 60/25/15
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    Hey Cornfed, nice journal. Thats friggin crazy how much caffiene you take in a day. Do you think thermo's will even do anything to you with all that daily caffiene?

    Also, why keep the fat so low? Haven't you heard, higher fat=higher test levels
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    Why aren't you carbing up for 2 straight weeks?

    From my experience if I am in a caloric defecit and I go a week w/out a carb up I don't lose as much fat. I need something to jumpstart my metabolism. I carb up every 3rd and 4th day (Sunday and wed. night). You don't have to go overboard either and get all bloated. Just take in a bit more carbs/cals in your last meal. That usually helps me drop fat faster.

    Just my 2 cents....for what they are worth.
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    meals 1-4,6:

    generally 10oz chicken, 2tsp canola and some greens (broccoli/turnip grn/mustard grn/spinach)

    ~60g P
    ~11g F
    ----1.25g SF

    meal 5:
    post W/O
    2C cottage ch w/ peptide bond-breaking enzymes added, 2C milk, .5 "giant pixie stix"


    ~70g P
    ~55.5g C
    ----47.5g S

    totals:
    P ~ 370ish (350-380)
    F ~ 55ish
    C ~ 55ish (excluding greens)

    kcals= 21-2200 kcals


    and as for fat intake and test, I'm fine. My last blood test (~month ago, ~same diet) showed Test @ 1138.
    I'm abnormally high anywho

    and for supps, no thermos here

    low carbs through next week b/c it's fuqqin' spring break for me
    Beach no like carbs LOL. and carb-ups never boost my metabolism noticeably. I've had better net results w/o 'em, but go frickin' crazy
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    more like PCF
    67.5/10/22.5
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Okay, so carbs don't agree with the beach on spring break. I agree.

    My only question now is do you drink alcohol at all on spring break? Or is that okay becuase it dehydrates you and help to make you more cut.
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    and that's all I have to say

    I factor that into my caloric intake
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    I'll see y'all not this comin' Mon, but the next

    Peace, I'm outta here
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Not quite... only 1 day @ la playa (beach) ... weather sucked Sun, Mon, Tue (started work on Mon due to lack of good weather), cleared up on Wed bvut was at work, Thur (sunny at work), Fri (sunny at work), and Sat (my day off) ... it poured

    Oh, well... I had carbs every fuqqing day though at 1st by accident ... but let it slide a bit... thank God for Aquaban and other OTC diuretics. Not much alcohol either... Sun & Fri

    Oh, well... work = money

    and I got my ink done

    wt- 189
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Originally posted by cornfed
    Not quite... only 1 day @ la playa (beach) ... weather sucked Sun, Mon, Tue (started work on Mon due to lack of good weather), cleared up on Wed bvut was at work, Thur (sunny at work), Fri (sunny at work), and Sat (my day off) ... it poured
    lol, that sucks monkey balls. I know how you feel, my whole winter break was spent digging cars out from under the snow, damn NYC blizzards.

    Originally posted by cornfed
    and I got my ink done
    where did you get it done, and what is it?
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    check in Open chat "gettin ink done"... right delt.
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    wt 187 or ... ...
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Tues Chest... weak as shit... 189 wed morning
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Are you sill cutting? I though that you were just cutting until your spring break?
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    Naw...Just trying to do it a 'lil b4 spring break, but I'm taking this slow and steady... my visible bf% is going down very slowly, but wt is about the same .. w/ a general increase in strength... so.... I think I'm still making gains... I'm gonna try to cut slow while staying above 185 and hopefully around 190... priorities suck

    being cut for summer is #1, but I didn't wanna be a bloated SOB for S/B.
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    187.5 VERY DRY ... and more defined...
    shoulders yesterday were mediocre... Back tonight...
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    carb up this wkend...
    wt Sun 198.5

    back on Fri... decent...
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Originally posted by cornfed
    carb up this wkend...
    wt Sun 198.5

    back on Fri... decent...
    An 11lb gain? Holy shit, i thought you only carb up on like 100g of carbs?
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    I wanted to prove that 187.5 was dry so that I could give documentation of the LBM gains I've had on a kcal deficit. Tasted good, but a guy can only handle so much oatmeal/ brown rice and fuqqing tapioca

    that's the 1st in a long time and the fuqqing last.
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    oh, BTW, the carb up was ~275g Fri night and 300? on Sat am ... bad idea, but principles are principles
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    Shnikies... I have no idea on wt...
    I've managed to squeeze a 4day split into 3days (in a row)
    I'm living on no sleep. and driving all day
    I'm F'd up right now...
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
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    186.5 Sun morning... carb up Sunday night... managed to keep it down to 190this morning...

    Note to self... don't work legs night b4 death metal concert
    - "If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuqqin' ass... because he sucks and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuqqin' play on and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuqqin' candy-ass girl band but you've got that mother-fuqqer submitting songs [for the album], and those douchebags from the Offspring, too."
    "...Dave Grohl? Fuq Dave Grohl! ...you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fuqqing Sh!tvana?"
    --- Zakk Wylde ---
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