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    Originally posted by P-funk
    oh, those are kind of like t-bar rows, except they have a pad that you put your chest on, where as the t-bar row is free standing. they are also reffered to as support rows. I fucking hate them and only do them when I am working out at the gym that I work for because they don't habe a true t-bar row. I love free standing t-bar rows because of the stabalization needed to control the weight. Also, on the spider row, when the weight gets heavy, the pad becaomes annoying because it is pushing into my chest so hard.
    yah at my old gym we had one of those...i always called it a t-bar...not having a pad requires way more stability from ur back...it's amazing how u can feel the difference
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    Originally posted by oaktownboy
    Do you find that doing skull crushers on a decline bench hits the tris more efficiently or do u just want to get a variation?

    I like the variation a lot. But doing them on the decline bench presents other challenges that the flat bench does not, mainly, your arms are at an angle, whereas on a flat bench they are straight up in the air (at a right angle with your body), at that angle you are in a bit of shoulder extension which is activating the long head of the tricep. the long head is especially hit as you are performing the concentirc portion because your shoulder is actually moving a little bit in extension, as well as the obvious....elbow extension.
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    10/12 leg day

    hack squats
    10 plates x 11
    10 plates x 10
    10 plates x 10

    standing unilateral leg curl
    25x18
    35x10
    35x8

    barbell split squats (aka staggered squat)
    135x12
    135x12
    135x12
    135x12

    superset (no rest inbetween- back to back exercises.)
    a. leg curl 100x12, 100x12, 100x8, 90x12, 90x10, 90x12
    b. leg ext. 130x12, 130x12, 130x12, 130x12, 130x12, 130x12
    (blah............6 supersets without rest)

    seated adduction
    130x10
    130x10
    130x10

    machine hip extension (aka the glute machine or the butt blaster)
    100x12
    100x12

    standing calf raises
    200x15
    200x15
    200x15
    200x15
    200x15
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    10/3 chest, front and side delts, triceps, abs

    bench press
    225x8
    225x7
    225x5
    drop set 185x7, 135x5

    standing dumbell shoulder press
    50x9
    50x9
    50x9

    dips
    bw + 45 x 12
    bw + 45 x 8
    bw x 12
    bw x 11

    decline flyes
    55x8
    55x8
    55x8

    dumbell standing lateral raises (straight arms)
    20x12
    20x10
    20x8
    20x7

    unilateral \reverse grip tricep pressdown (no rest inbetween sets)
    50x20
    60x10
    50x10

    neutral grip machine chest press
    120x14
    120x9
    120x7

    seated unilateral dumbell raises (no rest inbetween sets)
    15x15
    15x10
    15x8

    Some words on this training split:

    Once I get back from vegas (two weeks form today) I will be going back to a one of the more traditional training splits I have favored in the past (one body part a day, once a week....lots of volume). This split was basically a trial type thing to go along with my mini 4 week cut (sometimes we need to try new things to see how our body responds). At first I liked the split and the high amount of frequncy but now I don;t like it so much. I feel like it is to much to train all my body parts twice in one week. I feel like I am not working to my fullest potential. I need more time to recover between workouts and this split does not offer me that. thank god this is the last week I am going to need to endure this.
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    10/14 back, rear delts, bi's, traps, forearms

    bent over barbell row
    185x8 (didn't use wraps....my grip started to fail)
    185x10
    185x10
    185x9

    superset.
    a. close grip pullups; bw x 12, x10, x8
    b. romanian deadlift 185x10, 185x8, 185x8

    wide grip pulldowns
    plate#11x11
    plate#12x7+1
    plate#12x7+1

    seated wide neutral grip row
    plate#9x15
    plate#10x10
    plate#11x8


    olympic bar curls
    65x16
    65x14
    65x10

    straight bar preacher curls
    40x15
    40x15
    40x15

    cable upright row
    stack x 8
    stack x 8
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    what's a romanian dead bro?
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    romanian dead.....aka a reagular (bent leg) deadlift
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    1.5 days left I'm outta here early Friday AM

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    yep, I'll give you a call


    10/15 legs.................here we go......begin training partner bitching now!!!

    superset
    a. regular stance squats
    b. close stance squats
    1a. 135x20
    1b. 135x20
    2a. 155x20
    2b. 155x20
    3a. 185x12
    3b. 185x12

    barbell walking lunges (40 yards)
    135lbs
    155lbs

    superset
    a. dumbell stiff leg deadlift 60x12, 70x12, 80x10, 80x8
    b. lying leg curl (feet dorsiflexed during concentric and plantar flexed during eccentric) 90x15, 100x8, 100x7, 100x6

    split squat with front leg up on step
    30x10
    30x10

    45 degree calf raises
    240x17
    240x12
    240x10
    dropset 240x10, 140x8
    Last edited by P-funk; 10-17-2003 at 07:08 PM.
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    10/17 chest, front and side delts, tri's, abs

    decline bench press
    225x10
    235x10
    145x5

    olympic bar millitary press
    135x10
    135x7
    135x6

    reverse grip tricep press down
    plate#11x17
    plate#11x13
    plate#10x15

    high cable cross over
    50x15
    60x12
    70x10
    75x8

    unilateral dumbell lateral raises (no rest inbetween sets....straight arms, standing)
    25x8
    20x8
    20x6
    15x8
    10x8

    dumbell skull crushers
    25x20
    30x10
    30x9

    incline dumbell flyes
    65x8
    65x5
    55x7

    cable lateral raises
    20x12
    20x10
    20x8

    dips
    bw x 15
    bw x 12
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    10/18 back, rear delts, bi's, traps, forearms

    wide grip pull ups
    bw x 10
    bw x 8
    bw x 6

    close grip t-bar row
    3 plates (45lb plates) x 8
    3 plates plus one quarter plate x 6
    4 plates x 4

    hammer strength machine row (weights listed are the amount of 45lb plates on each side of the machine)
    2 plates x 15
    3 plates x 7
    2 plates x 10
    2 plates x 9

    unilateral seated cable row (high pull...transverse plane, no rest inbetween sets)
    50x10
    50x10
    50x10

    id cable rear delt flyes
    40x10
    40x9
    40x9
    40x8

    cambered bar curls
    50x20
    60x12
    60x10

    unilateral dumbell cross bench preacher curls (no rest inbetween sets)
    25x9
    20x8
    20x8

    cable reverse curl
    60x15
    60x13

    behnind back barbell shrugs
    185x12
    205x10
    205x10
    205x10
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    Originally posted by P-funk
    holy shit I love that stuff, fogot totally about it.....i haven't seen it around for years though?? If I find some I am going to get it for a carb up.

    9/22 legs

    okay, I need to change my split, something totally different. I have never tried this before but what the hell. I am going to loower the volume and up the frequency with a 3 on, 1 off split. It looks like this:

    day1-legs
    day2-chest/front and side delts/tri's
    day3-back/rear delts/traps/bi's
    day4-rest
    repeat

    legs day today:

    squats
    225x12
    275x11
    315x4
    225x13
    225x10
    strip set 225x11, 135x12
    strip set 225x11, 135x15

    dumbell stiff leg deads
    100x8
    100x8
    100x8
    100x6

    standing cable leg curl (one leg at a time, no rest inbetween sets)
    plate#6x12
    plate#7x10
    plate#7x10

    unilateral leg extension (no rest in between sets)
    plate#4x15
    plate#5x11
    plate#5x9
    plate#5x8

    seated calf raises
    4 plates x 10
    4 plates x 9
    4 plates x 7
    3 plates x 10
    3 plates x 10
    2 plates x 14
    2 plates x 11

    diet today:

    5g creatine

    m1
    10 egg whites
    1tbsp. falx
    2/3c oats

    m2
    6oz tuna
    1tbsp flax
    1 harboiled egg

    m3
    5oz chicen breast
    salad
    2tbsp nemans balsamic vinegar

    m4
    same as meal 3

    m5 (post w/o)
    2 scoops optimum whey
    1/2c raw oats

    m6
    2 ground turkey burgers
    4oz sweetpotato

    m7
    1.5c cottage cheese
    strawberries

    2476cals
    292.5g protein
    99g carbs
    87g fat


    fuck, GRRRRRRRRRR..............I hate dieting.....i am seriously bitchy and hungry.
    is the cottage cheese u get fat free, or do you want some fat before bed to slow absorption?
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    the cottage chees that I use is 4% cottage cheese...full fat.
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    okay, this journal is dead...........I am heading off to Vagas for the olympia. When I come back onmonday I am going to start a new journal.
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