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    Why don't you do extensions, presses, and squats in that order. Change things up. Preexhaust the quads, and if you do this for a few weeks, then go back, you should see some nice strength gains.

    Also, you are dieting, so to lose strength is not that much of a suprise.

    Lastly, not sure if you are doing cardio, but that could be an issue as well.

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    Hi W8 - Thanks for checking on me still. Means a lot.

    When you safe safety squat machine do you mean the cage/rack for barbell squats or is it maybe the same machine I call "super squat" machine. That's where you can face in to the machine and squat or put your back on the pad and do hack squats. If that's what you mean - I love that machine. Makes me feel "secure" when I go heavy.

    Hi TP - That may be a good idea. I rarely do the isolation stuff first for fear of my weights coming down even more when I get to squat - but it makes sense that it could help in the long run.

    I've been gaining strength everywhere 'cept legs so I'm frustrated. And my legs need the most improvement!
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    In that case you should also prioritize.

    Are you training legs after your off day, when you are fresh?

    Are you getting proper post workout nutrition on that day especially? Sleeping well that night?

    Are you training them after your carb ups so that you have plenty of gas?

    If you have all that in order, you may wish to train legs twice as often as everything else for some time.

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    i'm going to fiddle with my routine. i honestly don't think i could train legs more often though. they're typically sore for 4 days after. but i do think i might need to move them so they are my first bodypart after rest days.
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    If you do them every four days rotate regular squats and hack squats. Or split quads and hams for optimum growth. Just keep hitting them hard and they will come back around, and you will feel more comfortable. remember it is quality not so much quanity when you start back into heavy legs
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    I don't really like splitting quads and hamstrings up. I've done that in the past. (but thanks for the idea)

    Good shoulder workout last night.

    DB PRESS
    10 x 25
    9 x 30
    8 x 30 - needed spot on last rep
    10 x 25

    SUPERSET: Side Laterals & Front Raises (DB)
    12 x 12.5 + 12 x 5
    8 x 15 + 10 x 5
    8 x 15 + 8 x 5

    hard to lift my arms after those

    SUPERSET: Cable Upright Rows & Rear Delt Machine
    10 x 60 + 10 x 45
    8 x 70 + 12 x 45
    8 x 70 + 10 x 45

    DROPSET (just 1) Machine Press
    5 x 70 + 8 x 50
    Last edited by nikegurl; 05-08-2003 at 04:17 PM.
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    WEDNESDAY 5/7 MEALS
    no cheats to report so far. guess that's progress.


    MEAL 1
    1 whole egg
    3 egg whites
    4 oz ground turkey breast
    1/2 c. oatmeal

    MEAL 2
    protein shake (Ultrasize)

    MEAL 3
    can tuna
    2 cups mixed greens
    4 oz yam
    2 Tbs dressing

    MEAL 4
    protein shake (Ultrasize)

    MEAL 5
    4 oz eye round beef
    1 cup broccoli
    flax - 2 tsp
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    42 hours after the fact....and my leg pain is still increasing.

    lol. guess it was a better workout than i thought (even if i am a wuss when it comes to squats)
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    all is well on the "meal front". no confessions needed. (about damn time)

    ARMS
    DB CURLS
    8 x 30
    10 x 25
    10 x 25

    CABLE CURL (EZ Bar)
    10 X 65
    9 x 70
    8 x 70

    HERCULES CURLS
    10 x 50
    8 x 60

    these weren't doing it for me. i kept feeling them across my upper back? my form was strict so not sure what i was doing wrong....i switched to concentration curls

    CONCENTRATION CURLS
    15 x 12.5
    10 x 15

    TRICEPS
    BENCH DIPS
    10 x 25 lb plate in my lap
    10 x 25

    Pushdowns
    10 x 40
    7 x 40 Reverse Grip
    9 x 40

    Kickback
    12 x 10
    10 x 10

    Dips
    7 x BW
    6 x BW
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    I wasn't cheating and slacking! I just don't usually have access to a computer on the weekend now.

    I made jumbalaya for my bf's mom Sunday - and didn't eat it.
    I used some of the liquid (just broth and spices) over my plain chicken so no cheats to report (just better than average chicken last night)

    Abs are sore. Still getting used to actually training them again.

    Good chest workout - sort of. 1st 4 sets of DB presses went very well. But then the incline machine and everything I tried after was bothering my shoulder. I think I pretty much have to stick with flat and incline DB presses, smith presses and cable crossovers for chest. The machines hurt my shoulder - pec deck hurts, flyes hurt.... Not as bad as it sounds though b/c the dbs don't hurt even the slightest bit.

    DB PRESS (flat bench)

    10 x 35
    10 x 40
    10 x 42.5
    6 x 45

    INCLINE PRESS MACHINE
    6 x 105 + 8 x 60 (dropset)
    7 x 90 + 4 x 75 - shoulder pain...stopped after 2 sets

    PEC DECK
    10 x 45
    10 x 45
    very light - tried to really squeeze but these also hurt my shoulder when I was reaching back.

    did 10 pushups (hard after the chest workout!) and called it a day for chest.

    ABS - 8 sets
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    Lose the smith presses to. They are hard on the shoulders as well. Hi there, I read but don't post much in here.

    I have shoulder probs to, but since going to all freeweight dumbbell exercises they have gone down considerably. And do the cable crossovers instead of the Pec Dec. I've seen that at the gym to a few of my clients just biomechanically don't fit into some of the machines to be able to do the exercises right without pain.

    I'd reccomend

    1. Incline DB presses
    2. Flat bench DB presses
    3. Cable Crossovers with the pulleys high
    4. Cable Crossovers with the pulley's low

    I'm not sure what others will think about the pullies in the high and low positions but I feel the stress differently and they are close to a fly.

    hmmm the chicken you made like that sounds awesome.
    "When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

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    You read my mind. I haven't tried the smiths in awhile so I wasn't sure if they would or wouldn't be ok.

    I do know that the db presses don't hurt and cables don't. It's funny too b/c my shoulder never hurts after the gym. It only hurts on chest day near the end. I can work around it though. Thanks for visiting!

    The chicken was good - and I'm really hating chicken lately (sick of it)
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    hmmm Turkey is good to, I alternate between tuna, chicken, and turkey for the most part.

    Might be at the end you've put enough pressure on your shoulder from the other exercises that it's just tired and weak enough that it starts to hurt.

    Have you ever thought about doing rotator cuff exercises? It might be a that those are getting strained, and if you do those it would eliminate that strain.
    "When I use the word intensity I mean the ability to continue past and through the pain barrier where your mind pleads to stop and in fact convinces your body that you have hit failure, but you push through. How far you push through that barrier is the level of intensity with which you train." -- Twin Peak

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    Abs still really sore from Sunday. I sort of like it. LOL

    Good back workout last night. Did BB Rows for first time in years. Found I can go heavier than I thought (will take this into account next workout) but was super strict and got my elbows all the way up and back. Felt great.


    RG HAMMER PULLDOWN MACHINE (plate loaded)
    12 x 35 lb each side
    10 x 45 " "
    10 x 50

    BB ROW
    12 x 30
    10 x 45
    10 x 50

    WG Lat Pulldown
    10 x 90

    SUPERSET: WG Lat Pulldown with Cable (long pulley) Rows
    9 x 90 + 10 x 80
    7 x 100 + 6 x 90 + 7 x 70 (did dropset on row portion of superset)

    I should add some hypers next time for lower back.
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    diet is in order.
    water was 5 liters yesterday.

    MEAL 1
    1/2 c oatmeal (dry measure)
    4 oz ground turkey breast
    1 egg
    3 egg whites

    MEAL 2
    Ultrasize shake

    MEAL 3
    can tuna
    1 cup mixed greens
    2 Tbs lowfat dressing
    4 oz yam

    MEAL 4
    Ultrasize shake

    MEAL 5
    5 oz chicken breast
    1 cup cabbage
    2 tsp flax
    "If you want others to be happy, practice compassion.
    If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- 14th Dalai Lama

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