Introduction

queenbee · 06-05-2003, 10:30 AM

Hi there!
I've been lurking around these boards for about two months now and I guess I ought to introduce myself. I have really enjoyed reading your posts, you guys seem like a great bunch of people, and what I've read has been very helpful.

I'm 36 years old, 5'10", 154 lbs. My body fat percentage was 26% in April (not sure how accurate that is, husband used tape measure and instructions from Body Sculpting Bible for Women). I take synthroid for hypothryoidism, multivitamin pill in the evening, calcium supplement, iron supplement (occasionally).

This all started because I felt like I was losing some cardiovascular endurance. I've been playing on an over-30 women's soccer team for, well, 6 years, and it seemed like I was not able to keep up the pace like I used to. So, I joined a gym in February 2003 with the intention of taking classes to improve my cardio. With the membership came 4 sessions with a personal trainer. He walked me through some weight training exercises and that was about it.

I started getting kind of bored with the classes, and really wanted to know more about weight training, so I bought the BSB for women book. Read that, started following the diet and the routine, went to one of the web sites mentioned in the book, and someone on the message board of that site pointed me here, and here I am. I now try to follow diet recommendations from this site, and have gotten great info from Jodi's posts (thanks!)

Now I am going to the gym at lunch MWF, and doing 30 minutes of cardio on a Reebok Trek (kind of like a stair stepping machine)Tuesday and Thursday evenings. It's easier for me to go to the gym at lunch, so I don't always make my cardio sessions.

I have seen noticeable changes in my legs, and I know my arms are getting stronger because I've been able to make increases in the amount of weight when I work them. I think if I can reduce my body fat percentage the changes in my arms might be more visible. The most exciting thing has been knowing that I am getting stronger because I am getting results now. Still, the amount of weight I lift is measley compared to you guys, but I know I'm just starting out. So, I guess my goals have changed from strictly improving cardio and losing weight, to becoming stronger by lifting correctly and decreasing my body fat percentage.

I guess that's long enough for now, just wanted to say hi!

Julie7Ulie · 06-05-2003, 10:31 AM

Hi QueenBee!

**Jodi** · 06-05-2003, 10:34 AM

Quote:

and have gotten great info from Jodi's posts (thanks!)

Your welcome and Welcome to IM!

Do you plan on posting your meals and workouts?

queenbee · 06-05-2003, 10:48 AM

Yep, I do plan on posting my meals and workouts!
Will do so shortly.

I hope this reply gets put in the right place! Forgive me if it doesn't.

**Jodi** · 06-05-2003, 10:58 AM

Bodybuilding IS addicting isn't it. That 's pretty much how I started out and now I hate cardio and I love lifting

queenbee · 06-05-2003, 01:32 PM

Yes, I am definitely in the early stages of addiction! It's seeing and feeling results (no matter how small) that is driving me. What has been the biggest surprise to me, is the diet, and really, I try not to think of it as dieting but rather an eating routine. When I first started, I was having trouble actually eating enough! When the popular idea of the general population is that fats are bad, it was and still feels weird sometimes to add (good) fat to things, but it really does work, and after reading all about ratios and what fat/protein/carbs actually do in the body it makes sense as well. I was writing everything down and counting f/p/c for about a month, I stopped, and I should probably start again now that I'm talking to ya'll (yep, I'm in Texas!).

I know I need to adhere to the eating program better than I do, but I know that beating myself up for getting off track occasionally is self-defeating, so I just tell myself I'm human, and jump right back on track. I admire you all A LOT for your self-discipline!

I'm going to do my measurements again tonight and post all my other info tomorrow.

p.s. hi back to Julie!

**Jodi** · 06-05-2003, 01:37 PM

Good for you! I look forward to seeing your plan.

I use www.fitday.com to track my ratios. Its a hell of alot easier and it only takes a few minutes a day to enter everthing in. Seriously its awsome, most of us here use it.

Julie7Ulie · 06-05-2003, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by queenbee

p.s. hi back to Julie!

good luck!

Jenny · 06-05-2003, 01:50 PM

Hey there!

Welcome to IM, the journals are a great way to keep yourself in check!

Stacey · 06-05-2003, 01:56 PM

HI QUEENBEE!! (love the name)

WELCOME TO IM!!!!!!!

mcfit · 06-05-2003, 02:44 PM

Hi QueenBee!

Welcome!

You will have lots of support and good advice by keeping a journal at IM. Good luck in reaching all your goals

RoCk79 · 06-05-2003, 05:09 PM

Welcome to IM, congrats on everything so far, and keep with it, it's an awesome feeling when you've been sticking to it for a long time...

queenbee · 06-06-2003, 09:26 AM

Mondays
one arm rows:3 sets of 13 reps @ 12.5#
incline db press: 3 sets of 13 @ 17.5#

db shoulder press: 3 sets of 13 @ 12.5#
one leg calf raise: 2 sets of 13 per leg @ 20#

db curls:3 sets of 13 @10#
overhead triceps: 3 sets of 13 @17.5#

db squats:3 sets of 13 @17.5#
sitting ham machine: 3 sets of 13 @40#

ab crunches on bench 15 with legs turned left, 15 with legs to center, 15 with legs to right; repeat this 3 times.

Tuesdays
30 minutes cardio Trek

Wednesdays
db squats: same as above
db lunges: 3 sets of 15 @5#

leg extensions: 3 sets of 13 @30#
lying leg curls: 3 sets of 15 @40#

one leg calf raise: same as above
db upright rows: 3 sets of 13 @12.5#

two leg calf raise: 2 sets of 15 @20#
triceps kickback: 3 sets of 13 @10#

ab crunches: same as Monday

Thursdays
30 minutes cardio trek

Fridays

incline flys: 3 sets of 13 @12.5
seated row: 3 sets of 13 @40

seated rear delt machine: 3 sets of 13 @35 (this always feels so awkward to me)
2 leg calf: 2 sets of 15 @20

hammer curls: 3 sets of 13 @10
lying triceps ext: 3 sets of 13 @10

db squats: same as above
db lunges: same as above

ab crunches:same as above
______________________________
In between each set I rest for 60 seconds.

There's my routine! Rip it up as ya'll see fit!

I never see anyone in the gym besides me doing dumbell squats. There are contraptions (I don't know what they are called) there with barbells that slide up and down on a track at either end, with padding on the bar in the middle to cushion the bar on the back of your neck. A lot of people use these, should I do these now instead of squats?

queenbee · 06-06-2003, 09:31 AM

Here's a photo of me and some friends at our "girls' weekend away" last weekend at the coast! (I'm the tall redhead in the back).

**Jodi** · 06-06-2003, 09:34 AM

Nice Pic Queenbee

Quote:

I never see anyone in the gym besides me doing dumbell squats. There are contraptions (I don't know what they are called) there with barbells that slide up and down on a track at either end, with padding on the bar in the middle to cushion the bar on the back of your neck. A lot of people use these, should I do these now instead of squats?

Sounds like a Smith Machine. I would suggest it. Looks like you could do a little heavier squatting and this would help get you started.

queenbee · 06-06-2003, 09:47 AM

Thanks. So you think the rest of the workout is okay? It seems like my legs are getting stronger faster than my arms. Is that the norm? I'd really like to see more progress in my arms.

Here is what I have calculated for my diet (without screwups) per day:
carbs:150
protein:150
fat:34
calories:1500

at 5 meals per day that comes to the following per meal
carbs:30
pro:30
fat:7
cal:300

I am using a formula from the BSB book to calculate my body fat percentage, and I did it again last night and still got 26%. Definitely want to reduce that number. I have not been following the above as closely as I should, I know that. But do the above c/p/f numbers sound right?

queenbee · 06-06-2003, 11:05 AM

yesterday
#1
1 hard boiled egg
protein shake
(2 scoops protein powder:80 cal; 1 f; 1 carb; 16 pro)
(2 T heavy whipping cream:100 cal; 10 f; 2 carb; 0 pro)
1 packet of splenda and some frozen peach/strawberry slices. I really like these protein shakes, I hope you all don't ask me to modify them too much...

#2
raw spinach, broc, cauliflower, red bell pepper, 2 cherry tomatoes
fat free dressing
slivered almonds
little bit of cheese (who0ops)
iced tea

#3
EAS lite
cheese stick

#4
baked chicken breast
1/2 cup green beans
1/2 cup sweet potatoes
yogurt

Today so far
#1
protein shake
two scrambled eggs (too much fat here I think, I should have used one egg and some whites)

#2
EAS lite
tablespoon natural peanut butter
1 orange

#3
5 oz baked chicken
1/2 cup cottage cheese
1/2 cup sweet potatoes

Not sure about meal #4 and #5 at this time.
I had some flax oil but I had to throw it out because I didn't keep it in the refrigerator and I was afraid it went bad.
I need to go over the basic shopping list from this site again and get to the store!

My weakness is cheese~~~~~~~~~~

queenbee · 06-06-2003, 02:30 PM

Okay, okay.

No more cheese from now on.
(did I really say that????)

JB_427 · 06-06-2003, 02:31 PM

Why cant you have cheese? Its on the shopping list, isnt it?

queenbee · 06-06-2003, 02:35 PM

That's true, it is, but I just got done reading Julie7ulie's journal and Jodi told her to do without it....slightly confused...but will do without it until further notice.

queenbee · 06-06-2003, 02:47 PM

row machine - 30x13, 30x13, 30x13
incline flys - 15x13, 15x13, 15x13

seated rear delt - 35x13, 35x13, 35x13
2 leg calf - 20x15, 20x15, 20x15

hammer curls - 12.5x13, 12.5x13, 12.5x13*
lying triceps - 10x13, 10x10, 10x9

smith machine - 20x13, 20x13, 20x13**
db lunges - 10x15, 10x15, 10x15

* I had the weirdest experience when doing these--I upped my weight from 10 to 12.5, and towards the end of each set I felt SO nauseous, I have no idea why, it was really weird. Don't know if it was because it was heavier, or because I ate the wrong thing prior, or what.

** This was my first time to use the smith machine, and I really liked it! I didn't up my weight too much from the 17.5# db squats I had been doing because I didn't know what it would be like. It is much easier than DB squats, I will need more weight next time.

queenbee · 06-06-2003, 02:51 PM

Ok wait a minute.
smith machine: 20# on each side is 40# total!
So I was doing squats with 2 dumbells weighing 17.5 each, 35 total.

queenbee · 06-09-2003, 01:35 PM

I was listing only the weight for one dumbell, I'm changing that to list that of both db's combined when I'm lifting both db's simultaneously (I think that's the way you're supposed to list it).

one arm rows - 12.5 x 12, 12.5 x 12, 12.5 x 12*
incline db press - 40 x 12, 40 x 12, 40 x 12

db shoulder press - 30 x 12, 30 x 12, 30 x 12
1 leg calf - 20 x 12, 20 x 10, 20 x 9 (my least favorite)

db curls - 30 x 12, 30 x 10, 30 x 8
overhead triceps - 17.5 x 12, 20 x 10, 20 x 10

sitting ham machine - 50 x 12, 50 x 12, 60 x 12
wide grip pull downs - 60 x 12, 70 x 12, 70 x 12

abs

Got back to the office and realized AAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH I FORGOT MY SQUATS!!!!!!! #@%$@!

*These are supposed to work the lats, but I only feel this in my shoulder/arm. Obviously I'm doing something wrong on this one.

**Jodi** · 06-09-2003, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by queenbee
That's true, it is, but I just got done reading Julie7ulie's journal and Jodi told her to do without it....slightly confused...but will do without it until further notice.

Some of the items on the shopping list were for people that are bulking. Periodically it is fine to have cheese but I find cheese to be one of those items that people get addicted to and use for a quick source of fat. It becomes an excuse instead of getting in some good EFA's

JB_427 · 06-09-2003, 02:01 PM

What about cottage and parmesan? Hard cheeses? And periodically, can you melt them?

queenbee · 06-09-2003, 02:13 PM

It was my understanding that cottage cheese in moderation is ok as a protein source, but don't take my word for it!

I've been trying and trying to get on to fitday.com, I was finally able to register today, it looks like a great tool! (If I can stay awake long enough for the pages to load! They may be having problems with their site.?)

**Jodi** · 06-09-2003, 02:14 PM

Cottage cheese is great to use in the beginning of a cut. Good protein source.

JB_427 · 06-09-2003, 02:19 PM

Queen,
I just saw a bunch of cottage cheese desserts just posted on recipes.
Ima cheese freak to.

06-05-2003, 01:37 PM	#7
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Good for you! I look forward to seeing your plan. I use www.fitday.com to track my ratios. Its a hell of alot easier and it only takes a few minutes a day to enter everthing in. Seriously its awsome, most of us here use it.
	Essence EFA

06-05-2003, 01:56 PM	#10
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,585 Photos: 23	HI QUEENBEE!! (love the name) WELCOME TO IM!!!!!!!
	I Believe in the Impossible!!!

06-05-2003, 02:44 PM	#11
mcfit Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 30	Hi QueenBee! Welcome! You will have lots of support and good advice by keeping a journal at IM. Good luck in reaching all your goals
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06-05-2003, 05:09 PM	#12
RoCk79 The one and only.... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Arizona Posts: 896 Photos: 9	Welcome to IM, congrats on everything so far, and keep with it, it's an awesome feeling when you've been sticking to it for a long time...
	Only one holding you back is yourself...It's time to let go.... .......Tebo

06-06-2003, 09:26 AM	#13
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	workouts Mondays one arm rows:3 sets of 13 reps @ 12.5# incline db press: 3 sets of 13 @ 17.5# db shoulder press: 3 sets of 13 @ 12.5# one leg calf raise: 2 sets of 13 per leg @ 20# db curls:3 sets of 13 @10# overhead triceps: 3 sets of 13 @17.5# db squats:3 sets of 13 @17.5# sitting ham machine: 3 sets of 13 @40# ab crunches on bench 15 with legs turned left, 15 with legs to center, 15 with legs to right; repeat this 3 times. Tuesdays 30 minutes cardio Trek Wednesdays db squats: same as above db lunges: 3 sets of 15 @5# leg extensions: 3 sets of 13 @30# lying leg curls: 3 sets of 15 @40# one leg calf raise: same as above db upright rows: 3 sets of 13 @12.5# two leg calf raise: 2 sets of 15 @20# triceps kickback: 3 sets of 13 @10# ab crunches: same as Monday Thursdays 30 minutes cardio trek Fridays incline flys: 3 sets of 13 @12.5 seated row: 3 sets of 13 @40 seated rear delt machine: 3 sets of 13 @35 (this always feels so awkward to me) 2 leg calf: 2 sets of 15 @20 hammer curls: 3 sets of 13 @10 lying triceps ext: 3 sets of 13 @10 db squats: same as above db lunges: same as above ab crunches:same as above ______________________________ In between each set I rest for 60 seconds. There's my routine! Rip it up as ya'll see fit! I never see anyone in the gym besides me doing dumbell squats. There are contraptions (I don't know what they are called) there with barbells that slide up and down on a track at either end, with padding on the bar in the middle to cushion the bar on the back of your neck. A lot of people use these, should I do these now instead of squats?

06-05-2003, 10:30 AM	#1
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	Introduction Hi there! I've been lurking around these boards for about two months now and I guess I ought to introduce myself. I have really enjoyed reading your posts, you guys seem like a great bunch of people, and what I've read has been very helpful. I'm 36 years old, 5'10", 154 lbs. My body fat percentage was 26% in April (not sure how accurate that is, husband used tape measure and instructions from Body Sculpting Bible for Women). I take synthroid for hypothryoidism, multivitamin pill in the evening, calcium supplement, iron supplement (occasionally). This all started because I felt like I was losing some cardiovascular endurance. I've been playing on an over-30 women's soccer team for, well, 6 years, and it seemed like I was not able to keep up the pace like I used to. So, I joined a gym in February 2003 with the intention of taking classes to improve my cardio. With the membership came 4 sessions with a personal trainer. He walked me through some weight training exercises and that was about it. I started getting kind of bored with the classes, and really wanted to know more about weight training, so I bought the BSB for women book. Read that, started following the diet and the routine, went to one of the web sites mentioned in the book, and someone on the message board of that site pointed me here, and here I am. I now try to follow diet recommendations from this site, and have gotten great info from Jodi's posts (thanks!) Now I am going to the gym at lunch MWF, and doing 30 minutes of cardio on a Reebok Trek (kind of like a stair stepping machine)Tuesday and Thursday evenings. It's easier for me to go to the gym at lunch, so I don't always make my cardio sessions. I have seen noticeable changes in my legs, and I know my arms are getting stronger because I've been able to make increases in the amount of weight when I work them. I think if I can reduce my body fat percentage the changes in my arms might be more visible. The most exciting thing has been knowing that I am getting stronger because I am getting results now. Still, the amount of weight I lift is measley compared to you guys, but I know I'm just starting out. So, I guess my goals have changed from strictly improving cardio and losing weight, to becoming stronger by lifting correctly and decreasing my body fat percentage. I guess that's long enough for now, just wanted to say hi! Last edited by queenbee : 06-11-2003 at 01:03 PM.

06-05-2003, 10:31 AM	#2
Julie7Ulie Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: MA Posts: 735	Hi QueenBee!
	... Im gettin' there!

06-05-2003, 10:48 AM	#4
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	Yep, I do plan on posting my meals and workouts! Will do so shortly. I hope this reply gets put in the right place! Forgive me if it doesn't.

06-05-2003, 10:58 AM	#5
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Bodybuilding IS addicting isn't it. That 's pretty much how I started out and now I hate cardio and I love lifting
	Essence EFA

06-05-2003, 01:32 PM	#6
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	Yes, I am definitely in the early stages of addiction! It's seeing and feeling results (no matter how small) that is driving me. What has been the biggest surprise to me, is the diet, and really, I try not to think of it as dieting but rather an eating routine. When I first started, I was having trouble actually eating enough! When the popular idea of the general population is that fats are bad, it was and still feels weird sometimes to add (good) fat to things, but it really does work, and after reading all about ratios and what fat/protein/carbs actually do in the body it makes sense as well. I was writing everything down and counting f/p/c for about a month, I stopped, and I should probably start again now that I'm talking to ya'll (yep, I'm in Texas!). I know I need to adhere to the eating program better than I do, but I know that beating myself up for getting off track occasionally is self-defeating, so I just tell myself I'm human, and jump right back on track. I admire you all A LOT for your self-discipline! I'm going to do my measurements again tonight and post all my other info tomorrow. p.s. hi back to Julie!

06-05-2003, 01:50 PM	#9
Jenny Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,728	Hey there! Welcome to IM, the journals are a great way to keep yourself in check!

06-06-2003, 09:31 AM	#14
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	Here's a photo of me and some friends at our "girls' weekend away" last weekend at the coast! (I'm the tall redhead in the back).

06-06-2003, 09:47 AM	#16
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	Thanks. So you think the rest of the workout is okay? It seems like my legs are getting stronger faster than my arms. Is that the norm? I'd really like to see more progress in my arms. Here is what I have calculated for my diet (without screwups) per day: carbs:150 protein:150 fat:34 calories:1500 at 5 meals per day that comes to the following per meal carbs:30 pro:30 fat:7 cal:300 I am using a formula from the BSB book to calculate my body fat percentage, and I did it again last night and still got 26%. Definitely want to reduce that number. I have not been following the above as closely as I should, I know that. But do the above c/p/f numbers sound right?

06-06-2003, 11:05 AM	#17
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	meals yesterday #1 1 hard boiled egg protein shake (2 scoops protein powder:80 cal; 1 f; 1 carb; 16 pro) (2 T heavy whipping cream:100 cal; 10 f; 2 carb; 0 pro) 1 packet of splenda and some frozen peach/strawberry slices. I really like these protein shakes, I hope you all don't ask me to modify them too much... #2 raw spinach, broc, cauliflower, red bell pepper, 2 cherry tomatoes fat free dressing slivered almonds little bit of cheese (who0ops) iced tea #3 EAS lite cheese stick #4 baked chicken breast 1/2 cup green beans 1/2 cup sweet potatoes yogurt Today so far #1 protein shake two scrambled eggs (too much fat here I think, I should have used one egg and some whites) #2 EAS lite tablespoon natural peanut butter 1 orange #3 5 oz baked chicken 1/2 cup cottage cheese 1/2 cup sweet potatoes Not sure about meal #4 and #5 at this time. I had some flax oil but I had to throw it out because I didn't keep it in the refrigerator and I was afraid it went bad. I need to go over the basic shopping list from this site again and get to the store! My weakness is cheese~~~~~~~~~~

06-06-2003, 02:30 PM	#18
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	cheese Okay, okay. No more cheese from now on. (did I really say that????)

06-06-2003, 02:31 PM	#19
JB_427 Getting Inspired Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the east coast, whoring up a storm.. Posts: 305	Why cant you have cheese? Its on the shopping list, isnt it?

06-06-2003, 02:35 PM	#20
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	That's true, it is, but I just got done reading Julie7ulie's journal and Jodi told her to do without it....slightly confused...but will do without it until further notice.

06-06-2003, 02:47 PM	#21
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	Friday June 6 row machine - 30x13, 30x13, 30x13 incline flys - 15x13, 15x13, 15x13 seated rear delt - 35x13, 35x13, 35x13 2 leg calf - 20x15, 20x15, 20x15 hammer curls - 12.5x13, 12.5x13, 12.5x13* lying triceps - 10x13, 10x10, 10x9 smith machine - 20x13, 20x13, 20x13** db lunges - 10x15, 10x15, 10x15 * I had the weirdest experience when doing these--I upped my weight from 10 to 12.5, and towards the end of each set I felt SO nauseous, I have no idea why, it was really weird. Don't know if it was because it was heavier, or because I ate the wrong thing prior, or what. ** This was my first time to use the smith machine, and I really liked it! I didn't up my weight too much from the 17.5# db squats I had been doing because I didn't know what it would be like. It is much easier than DB squats, I will need more weight next time.

06-06-2003, 02:51 PM	#22
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	Ok wait a minute. smith machine: 20# on each side is 40# total! So I was doing squats with 2 dumbells weighing 17.5 each, 35 total.

06-09-2003, 01:35 PM	#23
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	workout June 9 I was listing only the weight for one dumbell, I'm changing that to list that of both db's combined when I'm lifting both db's simultaneously (I think that's the way you're supposed to list it). one arm rows - 12.5 x 12, 12.5 x 12, 12.5 x 12* incline db press - 40 x 12, 40 x 12, 40 x 12 db shoulder press - 30 x 12, 30 x 12, 30 x 12 1 leg calf - 20 x 12, 20 x 10, 20 x 9 (my least favorite) db curls - 30 x 12, 30 x 10, 30 x 8 overhead triceps - 17.5 x 12, 20 x 10, 20 x 10 sitting ham machine - 50 x 12, 50 x 12, 60 x 12 wide grip pull downs - 60 x 12, 70 x 12, 70 x 12 abs Got back to the office and realized AAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH I FORGOT MY SQUATS!!!!!!! #@%$@! *These are supposed to work the lats, but I only feel this in my shoulder/arm. Obviously I'm doing something wrong on this one.

06-09-2003, 02:01 PM	#25
JB_427 Getting Inspired Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the east coast, whoring up a storm.. Posts: 305	What about cottage and parmesan? Hard cheeses? And periodically, can you melt them?

06-09-2003, 02:13 PM	#26
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39	It was my understanding that cottage cheese in moderation is ok as a protein source, but don't take my word for it! I've been trying and trying to get on to fitday.com, I was finally able to register today, it looks like a great tool! (If I can stay awake long enough for the pages to load! They may be having problems with their site.?)

06-09-2003, 02:14 PM	#27
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Cottage cheese is great to use in the beginning of a cut. Good protein source.
	Essence EFA

06-09-2003, 02:19 PM	#28
JB_427 Getting Inspired Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the east coast, whoring up a storm.. Posts: 305	Queen, I just saw a bunch of cottage cheese desserts just posted on recipes. Ima cheese freak to.

06-09-2003, 02:26 PM	#29
queenbee Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 39