The Cut of No Return

**Jodi** · 07-29-2003, 07:59 PM

NG - No additional fat. The only time you want to add a Tbs. flax or pb is if you didn't have eggs or red meat that day. Otherwise, no additional fat is required other than your Fish Oil caps.

nikegurl · 07-29-2003, 08:11 PM

allrighty then. easier that way! i guess i can get used to tuna w/vinegar.

thanks!

**Jodi** · 07-29-2003, 08:14 PM

I do tuna and romaine with vinegar. It makes it easier to choke down dry tuna when its all mixed up like that.

Twin Peak · 07-29-2003, 08:14 PM

If you are in the 25 - 50 gram range of fat and you are averaging somewhere in the 40 range, its not a big deal. If you want to add a TBSP of flax so be it.

Also, remember, Jodi is on a fairly strict version given her contest date and such. We don't have a whole lot of time to experiement.

Claudette · 07-30-2003, 12:46 AM

I'm asking all kinds of what y'all might think to be stupid questions, but, oh well. What is an inner leg squat? I've been working out for a long time and have never heard of that. Then again, maybe I have, just not under that name...

**Jodi** · 07-30-2003, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Claudette
I'm asking all kinds of what y'all might think to be stupid questions, but, oh well. What is an inner leg squat? I've been working out for a long time and have never heard of that. Then again, maybe I have, just not under that name...

They are not dumb questions at all.

Its also known as Dumbell Plie Squat, if that helps any.

Julie7Ulie · 07-30-2003, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi

3 Sets Swiss Ball Crunch: BWx30, 10x30, 20x30
3 Sets Side Bends: 25x30, 25x30, 25x30

Jodi, What do you use as weight for these? Plates?

**Jodi** · 07-30-2003, 07:40 AM

Swiss Ball was a DB and Side Bends was a plate

Julie7Ulie · 07-30-2003, 08:07 AM

I thought weight for obliques wasnt a good idea?

**Jodi** · 07-30-2003, 08:08 AM

Its not

Remember don't follow me with everything I do.

Claudette · 07-30-2003, 05:25 PM

OK, I know what they are now. You're right, I know them as plie squats. Those are my favorites!!

**Jodi** · 07-30-2003, 05:33 PM

High Carb Day 7/30/03

Meal 1:
25G Protein
1/2 - 3/4 C. Steel Cut Oats
1 Apple
3 Fish Oil

Meal 2:
3.25 oz. Albacore
3 C. Romaine
2 T. Red Wine Vinegar
a buttload of Fiber One

1 Apple
3 Fish Oil

Meal 3:
3 oz. Chicken
1 C. Broccoli
3 Fish Oil

Meal 4:
4 oz. Cod
1 Lg. Sweet Potato
Some more Fiber One
1/2 Grapefruit
3 Fish Oil

Meal 5:
4 oz. Ground Sirloin
1 C. Green Beans
1.25 - 1.5 C. Kidney Beans
1/2 Grapefruit

Meal 6:
25G Protein
3 Fish Oil

Totals: Not a freaking clue, guestimate 2100 cals

Twin Peak · 07-30-2003, 05:45 PM

I was just curious how many cups are in a buttload?

**Jodi** · 07-30-2003, 05:50 PM

I don't know I'll let you know tomorrow!

If I had to guess, I probably ate 1.25 - 1.5 C.

nikegurl · 07-30-2003, 06:10 PM

i think i'll be sure to include a buttload of fiber one on my high carb days as well (fri is first one.)

you're full of good ideas, jodi!

Twin Peak · 07-30-2003, 06:12 PM

BTW, when I eat a buttload of fiber one, I am referring to an entire sleeve.

**Jodi** · 07-30-2003, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Twin Peak
BTW, when I eat a buttload of fiber one, I am referring to an entire sleeve.

Do you ever leave the bathroom the next day?

**Jodi** · 07-30-2003, 07:42 PM

Shoulder Workout 7/30/03

3 Sets Reverse Pec Deck: 50x12, 50x12, 55x10
3 Sets Facing Incline Laterals: 15x6, 17.5x6, 17.5x6

Superset
3 Sets Swiss Ball DB Presses: 25x12, 25x10, 25x10
3 Sets Swiss Ball DB Laterals: 10x12, 10x10, 10x10

Superset
3 Sets DB Hammer Grip Front Raise: 10x12, 10x12, 10x12
3 Sets Behind Back Cable Lateral: 10x12, 10x12, 10x12

5 Sets 1 Arm Tri Ext: 12.5x15, 12.5x15, 12.5x15, 12.5x15, 12.5x12
6 Sets External Rotations: 5x15, 5x15, 5x15, 5x15, 5x15, 5x15

Twin Peak · 07-30-2003, 08:18 PM

Your leptigen should arrive tomorrow.

nikegurl · 07-30-2003, 08:25 PM

can't wait to hear how it goes!

TP - think if i wait 2 weeks i run the risk of it being sold out?

Twin Peak · 07-30-2003, 08:31 PM

At the current pace of sales you should be fine. But it wouldn't suprise me, based on the feedback to date, if it disappeared very fast.

Twin Peak · 07-30-2003, 08:32 PM

Of course, we will make more, I just expect a 3-4 week delay until the next batch is run.

butterfly · 07-30-2003, 10:43 PM

Jodi,

I'm so proud of you for setting these new goals!!! You are such a beautiful person, dedicated, true, a real inspiration!!! I'm so looking forward to watching your progress and seeing you succeed!!! You've inspired me to give up all my cheats and get "back in the game." Thanks for sharing your journey with us!!!

**Jodi** · 07-31-2003, 07:45 AM

OMG.....thank you so much Butterfly! It really means alot more than you know to hear that.

I really appreciate all the support I get from everyone, thank you, you guys are the best.

Can't wait for my Leptigen today. Thank you TP for checking up on it for me

**Jodi** · 07-31-2003, 08:32 PM

No Carb Day 7/31/03

Meal 1:
25G Protein
3 Fish Oil

Meal 2:
3 oz. Chicken
1 C. Broccoli
3 Fish Oil

Meal 3:
3.25 oz. Albacore
3 C. Romaine
2 T. ACV
3 Fish Oil

Meal 4:
25G Protein
3 Fish Oil

Meal 5:
4 oz. Ground Sirloin
1 C. Green Beans

Meal 6:
2.25 oz. Cod
3 Egg Whites
3 Fish Oil

Protein: 149
Fat: 26
Carb: 19 (including veggies)

Twin Peak · 07-31-2003, 08:34 PM

Fats a tad low. Up it by 10 grams. Flax or some yolks, or more beef.

butterfly · 07-31-2003, 08:35 PM

Wow, you have fish oil with every meal??? My bottle says 2, 3xday. Is that not enough???

butterfly · 07-31-2003, 08:35 PM

BTW, I ordered some Leptigen today! Can't wait to get started on it!!!

**Jodi** · 07-31-2003, 08:38 PM

B - Mix it with crystal light (raspberry ice), its nasty tasting

TP told me 15 Fish Caps a day

nikegurl · 07-31-2003, 08:41 PM

Hi Jodi - What dosage are you going with on the Leptigen?

(how many times a day and how many Tbs) I know as you get leaner and calories go lower you actually need more but just curious where you're starting with it.

07-29-2003, 07:59 PM	#61
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	NG - No additional fat. The only time you want to add a Tbs. flax or pb is if you didn't have eggs or red meat that day. Otherwise, no additional fat is required other than your Fish Oil caps.
	Essence EFA

07-29-2003, 08:11 PM	#62
nikegurl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LA, CA Posts: 5,635	allrighty then. easier that way! i guess i can get used to tuna w/vinegar. thanks!
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07-29-2003, 08:14 PM	#63
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	I do tuna and romaine with vinegar. It makes it easier to choke down dry tuna when its all mixed up like that.
	Essence EFA

07-29-2003, 08:14 PM	#64
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	If you are in the 25 - 50 gram range of fat and you are averaging somewhere in the 40 range, its not a big deal. If you want to add a TBSP of flax so be it. Also, remember, Jodi is on a fairly strict version given her contest date and such. We don't have a whole lot of time to experiement.
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07-30-2003, 07:40 AM	#68
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Swiss Ball was a DB and Side Bends was a plate
	Essence EFA

07-30-2003, 12:46 AM	#65
Claudette Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 128	I'm asking all kinds of what y'all might think to be stupid questions, but, oh well. What is an inner leg squat? I've been working out for a long time and have never heard of that. Then again, maybe I have, just not under that name...

07-30-2003, 08:07 AM	#69
Julie7Ulie Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: MA Posts: 735	I thought weight for obliques wasnt a good idea?
	... Im gettin' there!

07-30-2003, 08:08 AM	#70
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Its not Remember don't follow me with everything I do.
	Essence EFA

07-30-2003, 05:25 PM	#71
Claudette Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 128	OK, I know what they are now. You're right, I know them as plie squats. Those are my favorites!!

07-30-2003, 05:33 PM	#72
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	High Carb Day 7/30/03 Meal 1: 25G Protein 1/2 - 3/4 C. Steel Cut Oats 1 Apple 3 Fish Oil Meal 2: 3.25 oz. Albacore 3 C. Romaine 2 T. Red Wine Vinegar a buttload of Fiber One 1 Apple 3 Fish Oil Meal 3: 3 oz. Chicken 1 C. Broccoli 3 Fish Oil Meal 4: 4 oz. Cod 1 Lg. Sweet Potato Some more Fiber One 1/2 Grapefruit 3 Fish Oil Meal 5: 4 oz. Ground Sirloin 1 C. Green Beans 1.25 - 1.5 C. Kidney Beans 1/2 Grapefruit Meal 6: 25G Protein 3 Fish Oil Totals: Not a freaking clue, guestimate 2100 cals
	Essence EFA

07-30-2003, 05:45 PM	#73
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	I was just curious how many cups are in a buttload?
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07-30-2003, 05:50 PM	#74
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	I don't know I'll let you know tomorrow! If I had to guess, I probably ate 1.25 - 1.5 C.
	Essence EFA

07-30-2003, 06:10 PM	#75
nikegurl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LA, CA Posts: 5,635	i think i'll be sure to include a buttload of fiber one on my high carb days as well (fri is first one.) you're full of good ideas, jodi!
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07-30-2003, 06:12 PM	#76
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	BTW, when I eat a buttload of fiber one, I am referring to an entire sleeve.
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07-30-2003, 07:42 PM	#78
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Shoulder Workout 7/30/03 3 Sets Reverse Pec Deck: 50x12, 50x12, 55x10 3 Sets Facing Incline Laterals: 15x6, 17.5x6, 17.5x6 Superset 3 Sets Swiss Ball DB Presses: 25x12, 25x10, 25x10 3 Sets Swiss Ball DB Laterals: 10x12, 10x10, 10x10 Superset 3 Sets DB Hammer Grip Front Raise: 10x12, 10x12, 10x12 3 Sets Behind Back Cable Lateral: 10x12, 10x12, 10x12 5 Sets 1 Arm Tri Ext: 12.5x15, 12.5x15, 12.5x15, 12.5x15, 12.5x12 6 Sets External Rotations: 5x15, 5x15, 5x15, 5x15, 5x15, 5x15
	Essence EFA

07-30-2003, 08:18 PM	#79
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	Your leptigen should arrive tomorrow.
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07-30-2003, 08:25 PM	#80
nikegurl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LA, CA Posts: 5,635	can't wait to hear how it goes! TP - think if i wait 2 weeks i run the risk of it being sold out?
	If you want to achieve things that others can't... You have to do things that others won't.

07-30-2003, 08:31 PM	#81
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	At the current pace of sales you should be fine. But it wouldn't suprise me, based on the feedback to date, if it disappeared very fast.
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07-30-2003, 08:32 PM	#82
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	Of course, we will make more, I just expect a 3-4 week delay until the next batch is run.
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07-30-2003, 10:43 PM	#83
butterfly Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,526 Photos: 11	Jodi, I'm so proud of you for setting these new goals!!! You are such a beautiful person, dedicated, true, a real inspiration!!! I'm so looking forward to watching your progress and seeing you succeed!!! You've inspired me to give up all my cheats and get "back in the game." Thanks for sharing your journey with us!!!
	~Ann We must teach our children to dream with their eyes open. -Harry Edwards

07-31-2003, 07:45 AM	#84
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	OMG.....thank you so much Butterfly! It really means alot more than you know to hear that. I really appreciate all the support I get from everyone, thank you, you guys are the best. Can't wait for my Leptigen today. Thank you TP for checking up on it for me
	Essence EFA

07-31-2003, 08:32 PM	#85
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	No Carb Day 7/31/03 Meal 1: 25G Protein 3 Fish Oil Meal 2: 3 oz. Chicken 1 C. Broccoli 3 Fish Oil Meal 3: 3.25 oz. Albacore 3 C. Romaine 2 T. ACV 3 Fish Oil Meal 4: 25G Protein 3 Fish Oil Meal 5: 4 oz. Ground Sirloin 1 C. Green Beans Meal 6: 2.25 oz. Cod 3 Egg Whites 3 Fish Oil Protein: 149 Fat: 26 Carb: 19 (including veggies)
	Essence EFA

07-31-2003, 08:34 PM	#86
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	Fats a tad low. Up it by 10 grams. Flax or some yolks, or more beef.
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07-31-2003, 08:35 PM	#87
butterfly Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,526 Photos: 11	Wow, you have fish oil with every meal??? My bottle says 2, 3xday. Is that not enough???
	~Ann We must teach our children to dream with their eyes open. -Harry Edwards

07-31-2003, 08:38 PM	#89
Jodi Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	B - Mix it with crystal light (raspberry ice), its nasty tasting TP told me 15 Fish Caps a day
	Essence EFA

07-31-2003, 08:41 PM	#90
nikegurl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LA, CA Posts: 5,635	Hi Jodi - What dosage are you going with on the Leptigen? (how many times a day and how many Tbs) I know as you get leaner and calories go lower you actually need more but just curious where you're starting with it.
	If you want to achieve things that others can't... You have to do things that others won't.