Building a Better Bod

Jill · 11-17-2003, 08:10 PM

You dont need a fat burner!

Leslie · 11-17-2003, 08:21 PM

Thats right! Esp on a bulk where you are continuing to lose weight

I would save it for your cut IMO.

J'Bo · 11-17-2003, 08:31 PM

Oh i am...you guys just misunderstood...we were chatting about when i start cutting 8 weeks out...thanks for keeping an eye on me though

J'Bo · 11-17-2003, 08:32 PM

EVER HAD 4 BCAA'S AND A CLA STUCK IN YOUR THROAT CAUSE YOU DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH WATER? let me tell you its a VERY painful thing

sara · 11-17-2003, 08:33 PM

What is that broccoli thingy?

shortstuff · 11-17-2003, 10:46 PM

take your bcaa's in a powder form, that's what i do much easier that way

J'Bo · 11-17-2003, 11:11 PM

i cant stand the powder stuff.

k i have to freak out for a bit here. i am getting ready for bed and i walk by the bathroom mirror (with very little on) and almost freaked out. my abs are back, my legs look 100 times better than last year and 10 times better than 4 days ago

All i did was one cardio session, and started CLA and BCAA's...so yes i geuss i am a genetic freak

HAN i think i need to cut cardio to 3 tops.

J'Bo · 11-17-2003, 11:33 PM

Tuesday, November 18, 2003

meal 1: ham, eggs, 2 slices rye bread
*3 BCAA's and CLA
meal 2: shake and apple pear
meal 3: chicken, pasta and tom sauce
meal 4: tuna and crispy minis
meal 5: pasta, beef, broccoli
meal 6: nuttin...too sick!

Totals: too sick to figure it out

Protein: Carbs: Fats: Calories:

Workout has to wait until tomorrow cause i am too sick

Gonna go home have a bath and rest

**Jodi** · 11-17-2003, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo
i cant stand the powder stuff.

Have you ever tried ICE. It delicious and tastes like candy

I did a post on it in Supp forum titled BCAA's. Its great stuff.

senimoni · 11-17-2003, 11:46 PM

J'Bo - you know you look good girlie :-)

Jenny · 11-17-2003, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo
i cant stand the powder stuff.

k i have to freak out for a bit here. i am getting ready for bed and i walk by the bathroom mirror (with very little on) and almost freaked out. my abs are back, my legs look 100 times better than last year and 10 times better than 4 days ago

All i did was one cardio session, and started CLA and BCAA's...so yes i geuss i am a genetic freak

HAN i think i need to cut cardio to 3 tops.

Oh.. NOT FAIR

I want some of your genes missy

Well, that said, I'm real happy that you're seeing results honey

You are going to kick everyone's ass in your comps next year!!

hardasnails1973 · 11-18-2003, 08:04 AM

Ok j'bo i agree ..3 days is a good starting place. I think you are also going to like this idea as well. 45- 1 hour before HIT (20 minutes HARD) CARDIO have about 15 grams of carbs from crisp creme with your BCAAS and glutemine then eat your breakfast right way with in 30 minutes. Logic is that you need glyocgen to perform your HIT cardio other wise Hard cardio on a fasted state = muscle LOOSE !!

Sapphire · 11-18-2003, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J'Bo
i cant stand the powder stuff.

k i have to freak out for a bit here. i am getting ready for bed and i walk by the bathroom mirror (with very little on) and almost freaked out. my abs are back, my legs look 100 times better than last year and 10 times better than 4 days ago

All i did was one cardio session, and started CLA and BCAA's...so yes i geuss i am a genetic freak

HAN i think i need to cut cardio to 3 tops.

J...

What is CLA??? And I am with Jenny, can I have your genes???

J'Bo · 11-18-2003, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi
Have you ever tried ICE. It delicious and tastes like candy

I did a post on it in Supp forum titled BCAA's. Its great stuff.

Damn CANDY

you all know i am a sucker freak

Thanks Jodi

Sen...i am happy with my body most of the time...right now i am happy but for a while it was hard to adjust to the "off season look" thanks

Jenny...i am planning on kickin some

next year and hopefully some IMers will be there to see

HARD...no way i am going on to donuts

you nuts? plus it would be hard to get up at 3am and drive to the USA (45 min) cross the border and come home to do cardio.

I am so hungry in the am i think its a good idea to eat, however i cant do it on a full tummy or i will upchuck. what about 1/3 bagel? 1 hour before?

Sapph...CLA is Conjugated Liolenic Acid or Fat

Just trying something new. So far i am feeling good

I will share my genes if you share yours

hardasnails1973 · 11-18-2003, 10:13 AM

Ok dear go with 2 cinamon rice cakes or some thing sugary. or that ice would work but no need for sugar spike before workout (weight training) before am HIT cardio it would be needed becuase glyocgen levels are down and HIT depeletes your glyocen so for now ice be perfect but shit is so expensive.. BCAAS and 2 rice cakes (15 grams ) would be just as good. You just need to give a slight spike. Harder you can work greater the intensity more caloire deficit created. If you burn only 200 caloires wait untill you feel the after brun effect 6 hours later. that is whole principle behind HIT, but with every thing people 2 HIT cardio 3 days a week day week after week body adapts so why i suggest it may be 2-3 times a week max plus it can lead to over training and muscle lose. Don't go nut with supplements
l carnitine, creatine, multi vit, mineral , vit c ,e, calcuim, BCAAS., EFA, CLA... keep it simple last 12 weeks before we will impliment RED LINE non ephederine fat burner for finshing touches. Follow game plan 3-4 weeks base line your self and then we will make adjustments. first drop my be adding in another sesion of cardio is all and leaving diet the same. next week reduce caloires by 10% . SLow gradual changes aweek

J'Bo · 11-18-2003, 10:19 AM

i have crispy minis and tuna and BCAA's before training and it gives me a great workout. can i have pancakes for breakfast after cardio? with lots of syrup?

hardasnails1973 · 11-18-2003, 10:39 AM

I"m talking BEFORE CARDIO HIT ONLY have some small carbs with BCAAS and glutmeine about 30 minutes prior. After workout pancakes (healthy ones) with or better some fruit spread (NOT JELLY ) becuase after 4 weeks that jelly will be dropped so take advantage of things now !!

J'Bo · 11-18-2003, 11:06 AM

damn those pancakes are no fun

after my cardio i have rye bread. Before my cardio i will upchuck if i eat anything other than my BCAA's.

hardasnails1973 · 11-18-2003, 11:29 AM

talking only a few carbs !! and HIT CARDIO NEEDS TO BE TREATED LIKE A WEIGHT TRAINING SESSION !! have some carbs 15 grams about 30 minutes pior your body will suck them up. have a glass a 4 oz glass of orange juice will even work !!

J'Bo · 11-18-2003, 11:57 AM

OJ...Yuck! Crispy Mini's...Yum!

hardasnails1973 · 11-18-2003, 02:43 PM

what other trainer would let you have crispy cremes

(ONLY about 15 grams of them ! )

J'Bo · 11-18-2003, 03:31 PM

i dont have crispy cremes in my town

they arent in Canada yet

and keep them in USA so you guys get fat and not us

shortstuff · 11-18-2003, 03:35 PM

:tongue:

you two stop it :P

J'Bo · 11-18-2003, 03:37 PM

he keeps teasing me with donuts

and i am trying to be good here.

shortstuff · 11-18-2003, 03:38 PM

I know he is a poopy head isn't he

J'Bo · 11-18-2003, 03:39 PM

got that right

shortstuff · 11-18-2003, 03:40 PM

hey you are good at biology, come take my test for me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

maniclion · 11-18-2003, 03:41 PM

We have no Crispy kreme in Hawaii, but when I was on the plane from Cali everyone had like 3 or 4 boxes of them as carry-on. Most of the folks looked like they had gorged on them for a month. What has our country come to?

11-17-2003, 08:21 PM	#152
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Thats right! Esp on a bulk where you are continuing to lose weight I would save it for your cut IMO.
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11-17-2003, 08:31 PM	#153
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Oh i am...you guys just misunderstood...we were chatting about when i start cutting 8 weeks out...thanks for keeping an eye on me though
	....and thats my $.02

11-17-2003, 08:32 PM	#154
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	EVER HAD 4 BCAA'S AND A CLA STUCK IN YOUR THROAT CAUSE YOU DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH WATER? let me tell you its a VERY painful thing
	....and thats my $.02

11-17-2003, 08:33 PM	#155
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	What is that broccoli thingy?
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11-17-2003, 10:46 PM	#156
shortstuff Trying to Survive Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,727	take your bcaa's in a powder form, that's what i do much easier that way
	Good things come to those who wait........

11-17-2003, 08:10 PM	#151
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	You dont need a fat burner!

11-17-2003, 11:11 PM	#157
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	i cant stand the powder stuff. k i have to freak out for a bit here. i am getting ready for bed and i walk by the bathroom mirror (with very little on) and almost freaked out. my abs are back, my legs look 100 times better than last year and 10 times better than 4 days ago All i did was one cardio session, and started CLA and BCAA's...so yes i geuss i am a genetic freak HAN i think i need to cut cardio to 3 tops.
	....and thats my $.02

11-17-2003, 11:33 PM	#158
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Tuesday, November 18, 2003 meal 1: ham, eggs, 2 slices rye bread 3 BCAA's and CLA meal 2:* shake and apple pear meal 3: chicken, pasta and tom sauce meal 4: tuna and crispy minis meal 5: pasta, beef, broccoli meal 6: nuttin...too sick! Totals: too sick to figure it out Protein: Carbs: Fats: Calories: Workout has to wait until tomorrow cause i am too sick Gonna go home have a bath and rest Last edited by J'Bo : 11-19-2003 at 08:02 AM.

11-17-2003, 11:46 PM	#160
senimoni Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 161	J'Bo - you know you look good girlie :-)
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11-18-2003, 08:04 AM	#162
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	Ok j'bo i agree ..3 days is a good starting place. I think you are also going to like this idea as well. 45- 1 hour before HIT (20 minutes HARD) CARDIO have about 15 grams of carbs from crisp creme with your BCAAS and glutemine then eat your breakfast right way with in 30 minutes. Logic is that you need glyocgen to perform your HIT cardio other wise Hard cardio on a fasted state = muscle LOOSE !!
	EDIT: You need to place a link on your website to IronMagazine.com if you want to put a link in your sig.

11-18-2003, 10:13 AM	#165
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	Ok dear go with 2 cinamon rice cakes or some thing sugary. or that ice would work but no need for sugar spike before workout (weight training) before am HIT cardio it would be needed becuase glyocgen levels are down and HIT depeletes your glyocen so for now ice be perfect but shit is so expensive.. BCAAS and 2 rice cakes (15 grams ) would be just as good. You just need to give a slight spike. Harder you can work greater the intensity more caloire deficit created. If you burn only 200 caloires wait untill you feel the after brun effect 6 hours later. that is whole principle behind HIT, but with every thing people 2 HIT cardio 3 days a week day week after week body adapts so why i suggest it may be 2-3 times a week max plus it can lead to over training and muscle lose. Don't go nut with supplements l carnitine, creatine, multi vit, mineral , vit c ,e, calcuim, BCAAS., EFA, CLA... keep it simple last 12 weeks before we will impliment RED LINE non ephederine fat burner for finshing touches. Follow game plan 3-4 weeks base line your self and then we will make adjustments. first drop my be adding in another sesion of cardio is all and leaving diet the same. next week reduce caloires by 10% . SLow gradual changes aweek
	EDIT: You need to place a link on your website to IronMagazine.com if you want to put a link in your sig.

11-18-2003, 10:19 AM	#166
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	i have crispy minis and tuna and BCAA's before training and it gives me a great workout. can i have pancakes for breakfast after cardio? with lots of syrup?
	....and thats my $.02

11-18-2003, 10:39 AM	#167
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	I"m talking BEFORE CARDIO HIT ONLY have some small carbs with BCAAS and glutmeine about 30 minutes prior. After workout pancakes (healthy ones) with or better some fruit spread (NOT JELLY ) becuase after 4 weeks that jelly will be dropped so take advantage of things now !!
	EDIT: You need to place a link on your website to IronMagazine.com if you want to put a link in your sig.

11-18-2003, 11:06 AM	#168
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	damn those pancakes are no fun after my cardio i have rye bread. Before my cardio i will upchuck if i eat anything other than my BCAA's.
	....and thats my $.02

11-18-2003, 11:29 AM	#169
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	talking only a few carbs !! and HIT CARDIO NEEDS TO BE TREATED LIKE A WEIGHT TRAINING SESSION !! have some carbs 15 grams about 30 minutes pior your body will suck them up. have a glass a 4 oz glass of orange juice will even work !!
	EDIT: You need to place a link on your website to IronMagazine.com if you want to put a link in your sig.

11-18-2003, 11:57 AM	#170
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	OJ...Yuck! Crispy Mini's...Yum!
	....and thats my $.02

11-18-2003, 02:43 PM	#171
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	what other trainer would let you have crispy cremes (ONLY about 15 grams of them ! )
	EDIT: You need to place a link on your website to IronMagazine.com if you want to put a link in your sig.

11-18-2003, 03:31 PM	#172
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	i dont have crispy cremes in my town they arent in Canada yet and keep them in USA so you guys get fat and not us
	....and thats my $.02

11-18-2003, 03:35 PM	#173
shortstuff Trying to Survive Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,727	:tongue: you two stop it :P
	Good things come to those who wait........

11-18-2003, 03:37 PM	#174
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	he keeps teasing me with donuts and i am trying to be good here.
	....and thats my $.02

11-18-2003, 03:38 PM	#175
shortstuff Trying to Survive Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,727	I know he is a poopy head isn't he
	Good things come to those who wait........

11-18-2003, 03:39 PM	#176
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	got that right
	....and thats my $.02

11-18-2003, 03:40 PM	#177
shortstuff Trying to Survive Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,727	hey you are good at biology, come take my test for me pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
	Good things come to those who wait........

11-18-2003, 03:41 PM	#178
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 18,366 Photos: 10	We have no Crispy kreme in Hawaii, but when I was on the plane from Cali everyone had like 3 or 4 boxes of them as carry-on. Most of the folks looked like they had gorged on them for a month. What has our country come to?