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Old 11-17-2003, 09:35 PM   #331
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Hey Rock! Keep working hard on those vacuums! Haha, dont worry, the fat comes off quick with a good diet and exercise routine.

See you in a couple days... and no way on that Burger King
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Eggs you give me a report when you get back on this Rock character. I want to know all his habbits. I expecially want to know how many sets of Baccuums he is doing so I can do more. I think he is lying to me about doing only 5 to give me a false sense of security. He is going to come in looking thinner then me so be sure to let me know buddy. I trust you. Not Rock!!! hahahahaha
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I weighed in this morning at 200. I can tell my waist is getting bigger, I just keep thinking about cut time. It's hard for me to eat so much. What are you at right now PB?
I hit 185 yesterday up from 174 in about seven weeks, which to me is just fine, but I can also tell my waist is getting bigger. My philosophy this time is to bulk bulk bulk and worry about cutting later. I'm also not on any PH's, creatine, etc at all...not sure if this weight gain is good or bad based on that...



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Old 11-18-2003, 07:06 AM   #334
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Hey Rock! Keep working hard on those vacuums! Haha, dont worry, the fat comes off quick with a good diet and exercise routine.

See you in a couple days... and no way on that Burger King
Oh, ok eggs. No Burger King. We're gonna try and get Jen to eat pizza then?

I'm not worried about fat coming off, I know I can do that now. What I'm worried about is all the muscle coming off too like last time I lost weight. i know I have to be smarter about it this time.



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Eggs you give me a report when you get back on this Rock character. I want to know all his habbits. I expecially want to know how many sets of Baccuums he is doing so I can do more. I think he is lying to me about doing only 5 to give me a false sense of security. He is going to come in looking thinner then me so be sure to let me know buddy. I trust you. Not Rock!!! hahahahaha
HaHa Fire. I don't think you have anything to worry about from me! Actually I was J/K about doing 5 sets of vacuums. I only do 1 set of partial reps w/out full range of motion once every month. So if you do 2 sets you should have me beat on vacuums. (hehehe)



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Old 11-18-2003, 07:11 AM   #336
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I hit 185 yesterday up from 174 in about seven weeks, which to me is just fine, but I can also tell my waist is getting bigger. My philosophy this time is to bulk bulk bulk and worry about cutting later. I'm also not on any PH's, creatine, etc at all...not sure if this weight gain is good or bad based on that...
That sounds like good weight gain PB. Remember, you have to put it on and then take the fat off. It's been hard for me, but we have to keep looking forward, not backward and not be wishywashy about putting the weight on. I probably blew my first 2 months of this competition saying I want to bulk, wait not cut, ok bulk, maintain... If were bulking, that's what we have to do.

Good job on your 10 lbs!!



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Haha, nah... no pizza this time. Thats the offer thats up in Chicago at New Years I'm hungry for a nice Greek Salad with some feta cheese, balsamic vinegrette and perhaps a about 40g worth of chicken protein

That and some good company.

Dont worry about the muscle coming off with the fat, you'll loose a little, but with an good diet you'll enjoy some good results.
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Oh, and FS, I'll give you detailed reports on Rock when I get back. Physical stats, pics, criminal record, SSN, address, tele #, neighbors that dislike him on his block, subversive vacuum techniques he is using to out-vacuum you Anything else?



Just playing Rock, dont be getting all paranoid now
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Old 11-18-2003, 11:26 AM   #339
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Back/Bi's Shock

Man, my bi's are fried after Back on normal days, not to mention on Shock week!

Pullover SS w/ WG Pulldown, 3 sets

Pullover
125x10
130x10
135x9

Wide Grip Pulldown
100x10
100x9
100x6

Stiff Arm Pulldown SS w/ Reverse Grip Bent Row, 3 sets

Stiff Arm pulldown
60x10
70x10
80x10

Reverse Grip Bent Row
85x10
105x10
105x8

Close Grip cable row, dropset
80x10, 60x8, 40x10

Preacher curl SS w/ Str8t bar reverse curl, 2 sets

Preacher
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65x6

Reverse curl
50x8
50x6

EZ Bar Curl SS w/ Hammer curl, 2 sets

EZ Curl
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50x8

Hammer
25x5
20x8

Then I tried the cable one arm curl for a dropset, but it just doesn't feel right. Any suggestions on something else I can do as a dropset on Shock week?



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Haha, nah... no pizza this time. Thats the offer thats up in Chicago at New Years I'm hungry for a nice Greek Salad with some feta cheese, balsamic vinegrette and perhaps a about 40g worth of chicken protein

That and some good company.

Dont worry about the muscle coming off with the fat, you'll loose a little, but with an good diet you'll enjoy some good results.
That Greek salad sounds good Eggs! Yeah I know diet makes a difference, just worried I might do it wrong, ya know?



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Old 11-18-2003, 11:29 AM   #341
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Oh, and FS, I'll give you detailed reports on Rock when I get back. Physical stats, pics, criminal record, SSN, address, tele #, neighbors that dislike him on his block, subversive vacuum techniques he is using to out-vacuum you Anything else?



Just playing Rock, dont be getting all paranoid now
I'm wearing several super baggy sweaters w/ sweat pants on Sat. You'll have no idea what I look like!! I need every advantage over Fire. My implant surgery will be in March, so I should look healed by pic time in May!



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Old 11-18-2003, 11:36 AM   #342
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Meals for today!

Meal 1, Shake- 40g protein, 1.5 cup oats, 1.5 tbsp PB

Meal 2, PWO Shake- 40g Dextrose, 40g Protein

Meal 3- 1 can tuna, 2 large eggs poached, 2 slices wheat bread

Meal 4, Shake- 40g prot, 1.5 cup oats, 1.5 tbsp PB

Meal 5- 8oz Turkey Burger, 1.5 cup rice

Meal 6- 1 cup Cottage Cheese, 8 fish oil tabs

Cals- 3,472
Pro- 311, 39%
Carb-312, 34%
Fat- 96g, 27%



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I've heard people say that but I've never had a problem.

You're lucky then. not fair. just kidding



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You're lucky then. not fair. just kidding
Now the consequences of eating alot of protein are a different story!



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Old 11-18-2003, 02:04 PM   #345
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Preacher curl SS w/ Str8t bar reverse curl, 2 sets

Preacher
65x10
65x6

Reverse curl
50x8
50x6

EZ Bar Curl SS w/ Hammer curl, 2 sets

EZ Curl
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Hammer
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Then I tried the cable one arm curl for a dropset, but it just doesn't feel right. Any suggestions on something else I can do as a dropset on Shock week?
OK dude, first of all i strongly recomend knocking your Bi sets back to 1 a piece... i know it dont sound like much but your hitting back and bis on the same day = too much for bi's.

Try S/S
Ez curl bar with close grip chins (palms toward you)
Incline alt DB curl with Rev curl
Then dropset Standing cable curl (both hands)



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OK dude, first of all i strongly recomend knocking your Bi sets back to 1 a piece... i know it dont sound like much but your hitting back and bis on the same day = too much for bi's.

Try S/S
Ez curl bar with close grip chins (palms toward you)
Incline alt DB curl with Rev curl
Then dropset Standing cable curl (both hands)
Like I'm going to listen to the competition!! You want me to eat pizza for breakfast every morning too?!? J/K

So you think with the SS, 1 set per is good enough? I just feel my biceps are really falling behind because of my elbow problem. Cables for some reason I can't keep my elbows at my side and do them, any suggestions mate?



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Like I'm going to listen to the competition!! You want me to eat pizza for breakfast every morning too?!? J/K
And what would be wrong with that??

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So you think with the SS, 1 set per is good enough? I just feel my biceps are really falling behind because of my elbow problem. Cables for some reason I can't keep my elbows at my side and do them, any suggestions mate?
I would feel it was enough, especially on back day.... its totally up to you though, how you feel.... I do arms on Friday and havent touched them since the Tuesday (my back day) and still only do the one sets.... It dont feel like enough when i do them, but my arms are pretty big for my size, as far as your elbow problem goes i cant say cause i dont have that prob myself....
Elbows at side??.... I try to get my elbows locked on my hips, it seems to work for me, just remember that when you've got full contraction bringing your elbows up dosent make the contraction any harder... Full extention is the biggie.... Full extention to full contraction for EVERY rep!!!
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I think I got you Ris. Thanks man! Still don't like cables though- too funky.

On like power and rr days would you do more for bi's or still one set for 3 exercises?



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Power and rep range i do
Exercise 1 x 2 sets
Ex2 x 2 sets
Ex3 x 1 set
Drop the last exercise if i feel like it...
5-6 sets on tris

Dropset on barbell curls is good, especially if your gym has a rack of premade Barbells...



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Power and rep range i do
Exercise 1 x 2 sets
Ex2 x 2 sets
Ex3 x 1 set
Drop the last exercise if i feel like it...
5-6 sets on tris

Dropset on barbell curls is good, especially if your gym has a rack of premade Barbells...
Sounds good. 21's are good also right? Thanks Ris!



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Hey Dave, I bought you your shrimp cheese yesterday!
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Sounds good. 21's are good also right? Thanks Ris!
When are you doin 21's (that with 1/2 reps eh?).....
I havent done those since i started GP's routine but they are good shock!!



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Hey Dave, I bought you your shrimp cheese yesterday!
Awesome Jen!! Thanks, it's been 4 1/2 years since I had that. I'll have to make it last! Your the best!!



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When are you doin 21's (that with 1/2 reps eh?).....
I havent done those since i started GP's routine but they are good shock!!
I haven't done them for awhile either, but I was thinking of Shock, instead of cable curl doing 21's.



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I haven't done them for awhile either, but I was thinking of Shock, instead of cable curl doing 21's.
Yeah mate, that'd be sweet Go for da burn



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