Competition Body

Eggs · 10-28-2003, 08:44 AM

Hey Rock! Hope your arm is doing better, thats always a pain when you're trying to hit the gym hard.

Keep taking that oxo-6, and see ya next month!

Rocco32 · 10-28-2003, 04:19 PM

Thanks for dropping in Eggs. Yeah, the arm is doing better but I'm afraid of messing it up again! I'm excited about next month!!

Rocco32 · 10-28-2003, 09:21 PM

Meals

Meal 1, Shake- 40g protein, 1.5 cup oats, 1 tbsp PB, 4 strawberries

Meal 2, PWO Shake- 40g pro, .5 cup oats

Meal 3- 1 can tuna w/olive spread, 1/2 cup Fiber one

Meal 4- 1 can tuna, 1/2 cup Fiber one, 1 slice Wheat bread

Meal 5, shake- 40g pro, 1.5 cup oats, 1 tbsp PB

Meal 6- 8oz Turkey burger, 1.5 cup rice w/ salsa

Meal 7- 40g pro, 4tbsp PB (got carried away, it was sooooo good)

Cals- 3,225
Pro- 325, 44%
Carb-324, 35%
Fat- 68g,21%

Rocco32 · 10-30-2003, 10:55 AM

Meals yesterday the 29th

Meal 1, Shake- 1.5 cups oats, 2 tbsp PB, 40g protein, 5 strawberries

Meal 2- 1 can tuna, 1 piece Wheat bread, .5 cup Fiber one

Meal 3, Shake- 40g Prot, 2 tbsp PB

Meal 4- 8 oz Flounder, 1 plum

Meal 5- 8oz Top round steak, 1 cup rice

Meal 6- 40g protein, 1 tbsp PB

Cals- 2,886
Pro- 339, 50%
Carb-191, 23%
Fat- 78g,28%

Rocco32 · 10-30-2003, 01:38 PM

Today was Chest and Tri's. My strength has definately gone down since 1-ad and not taking 6-oxo. Makes me want to cry!

Incline BB, 4 sets- 155x8, 165x6, 175x4, 135x9
Flat DB Bench, 3 sets- 65x8, 55x9, 55x9
Dips, 2 sets- 9, 6

Skullcrusher, 2 sets- 75x9, 75x7
Pushdown, 2 sets- 100x8, 80x10
Reverse one arm pulldown, 1 set- 20x8

Rocco32 · 10-31-2003, 07:36 AM

Meals for 10-30

Meal 1, Shake- 1.5 cups oats, 2 tbsp PB, 40g protein, 5 strawberries

Meal 2- 1 can tuna, 1 piece Wheat bread, 1 plum

Meal 3, Shake- 40g Prot, 2 tbsp PB, 1.5 cup oats

Meal 4, PWO Shake- 40g prot, 1/2 cup oats

Meal 5- 8 oz Flounder, 1 plum, 1/2 cup Fiber one, 1 whole wheat bread

Meal 6- 8oz Top round steak, 1.5 cup rice

Meal 7- 40g protein, 1 tbsp PB

Cals- 3,609
Pro- 352, 42%
Carb-319, 33%
Fat- 92g,25%

Rocco32 · 10-31-2003, 07:38 AM

Today was Shoulders and forearms-

DB Press, 3 sets- 50x10, 50x8, 50x8
Rear Cable, 3 sets- 15x10, 20x10, 20x10
Side Lat Raise Machine, 3 sets- 80x10, 80x10, 80x10

Wrist Curl BB, 3 sets- 85x15, 85x11, 85x6
Reverse Wrist Curl, 3 sets- 40x15, 30x15, 30x12

Rocco32 · 10-31-2003, 07:47 AM

Here is today's meals

Meal 1, Shake- 1.5 cups oats, 2 tbsp PB, 40g protein, 5 strawberries

Meal 2, PWO Shake- 40g prot, 1/2 cup oats

Meal 3- 6oz Flounder, .5 cup fiber one

Meal 4- 1 can tuna, 1 piece Wheat bread, .5 cup Fiber one

Meal 5, Shake- 40g Prot, 2 tbsp PB, 1.5 cup oats

Meal 6- 6oz Turkey Burger, 1 1/2 cup rice

Meal 7- 40g protein, 1 tbsp PB

Cals- 3,247
Pro- 304, 41%
Carb-324, 35%
Fat- 80g,24%

Jenny · 10-31-2003, 10:45 AM

Glad to see you're back in the gym Rock

Don't cry over lost strength, it will be back before you know it

See you soon!

Rocco32 · 10-31-2003, 11:16 AM

Thanks Jen, I'm glad I'm back in the gym. Just hope it's not a recurrent problem.

Can't wait till we get to meet, that'll be fun!

Rocco32 · 11-02-2003, 07:25 AM

Alright, last night I had 6 slices of Papa John's pepporini and Mushroom pizza, 1 Miller's lite, and 6 little nutrageous bars (Halloween size)

Rocco32 · 11-02-2003, 07:30 AM

Ok, I need to vent here a bit. I take my measurements the 1st of every month. Yesterday almost all my measurements had gone down a bit, except stomach which was up an INCH!! What the Hell?!? I train 4-5 days a week, I eat extremely clean except Sat. night. Could this be due to the 1-ad cycle and not doing 6-oxo right after, my test levels dropped and so did my measurements?

I've been eating alot, normally between 3-3,400 cals a day. But I'm under the impression that's what I have to do to put on muscle. I think I'm dropping it to 2,800 cals unless I'm on a 1-ad/4-ad cycle and then go back up. I'm really upset right now. I've been busting my ass and have nothing to show for it.

Rocco32 · 11-02-2003, 08:01 AM

More complaining coming!

I still have no shoulders! My strength has gone up quite a bit, but I don't notice any size. Same with Chest, lifts have gone up alot for me but I don't notice any difference in size.

**Jodi** · 11-02-2003, 08:18 AM

Any bulk comes with a little fat in the wrong places.

What time of day did you take your measurements? Your doing a clean bulk, it takes time and this doesn't happen overnight. With bulking you have to accept the bad with the good

Rocco32 · 11-02-2003, 08:26 AM

It's hard, but I can accept some fat with the bulk. What bothers me is in the past month my chest and arm and leg sizes have gone down while my waist went up. I'd be ok is everything went up with the waist or even stayed the same. But the fact that it actually went down confuses me.

Normally I measure first thing in the morning, yesterday I measured in the afternoon.

**P-funk** · 11-02-2003, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock4832
More complaining coming!

I still have no shoulders! My strength has gone up quite a bit, but I don't notice any size. Same with Chest, lifts have gone up alot for me but I don't notice any difference in size.

Strenght gains do not neccesarily yield size gains as the intramuscular connection is far more advanced than that.

Like Jodi said every bulk comes with fat. You just have to take it on the chin and know that you can diet it off later. If you feel you are getting a little fat then do either one of two things lower your carb intake and drop cals slightly and/or put in a little bit of cardio but keep cals the same (yes I said it.....cardio). Once things are under control go back to bulking. Hang in there and be patient.

Jenny · 11-02-2003, 10:24 AM

Hey Rock! Hang in there, results will come

Rissole · 11-02-2003, 02:36 PM

Welcome to the club Rock!! Bust your ass for little gains.....

Dont worry about the fat, it will come off.... i'm up to 209lbs and i hate the little roll of fat around the waist i been gettin but it's for a cause so i can handle it.
Keep working hard mate and the results will come. W8 till you take pics in Jan and you'll see.
I've taken pics from when i first started training and i cant see much difference but when someone else looks they go WOW...
Our perception of self can be the biggest downer.... keep training mate... use the downer for the motivation to push yourself beyond your limits....

firestorm · 11-02-2003, 08:40 PM

Rock, I'd like to help you but your in the same contest I am so I want you to look like shit sorry. hahahahahaha just kidding my friend.
my 1st bit of advise is don't live by a scale and tape measure. Your checking too often my man. you will only depress yourself. Muscle takes time. Since this contest started I have only measured my waist once and just the other day my arms cause they were looking bigger and wasn't sure if it was just my imagination. If your not happy with your shoulder training, prioritize them as I did. I also have the same problem with shoulders so I give them their own special day and do not train them with any other bodypart. As for waist, I lost over an inch around my waist but since started Creatine and 1T. Creatine causes me to feel bloated and retain water so I'm not worrying about the waist right now yet not letting it get out of control. YOur problem may be the 1AD but I can't say for sure; I don't know much about it.

Eggs · 11-02-2003, 09:22 PM

Hey bro, keep working at it! Not to sound trite, but changing your body takes time. The biggest mistake people make is underestimating the effort that it will require of them.

However, you're already on the road... stick to it and reap the benefits!

Rocco32 · 11-02-2003, 09:53 PM

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the support! Really makes me feel better! I added in a bit of HIIT training, I think that will at least make me feel better. I know it takes time, just freaked me out when i measured, I'm doing better now. Keeping the bulk up, just can't wait for the cut.

Rocco32 · 11-03-2003, 09:13 AM

Meals for today:

Meal 1, Shake- 40g protein, 1 1/2 cup oats, 2 tbsp pb

Meal 2, PWO shake- 40g prot., .5 cup oats

Meal 3- 1 can tuna w/olive spread, 1/2 cup Fiber one

Meal 4, Shake- 1 cup oats, 1tbsp PB, 40g prot

Meal 5- 1 can tuna, 1/2 cup Fiber one

Meal 6- 8oz Top round steak, 1 cup rice

Meal 7- 40g prot, 1 tbsp PB

Cals- 3,106
Pro- 335, 46%
Carb-256, 28%
Fat- 83g, 26%

Rocco32 · 11-03-2003, 09:19 AM

Chest day- power

Bench Press
175x6
195x6
205x4 (If I had a spotter, might have done another)
215x3 F (Had a spotter, did 4 but I think he helped a bit on last one.)

Incline DB Press
70x6
80x6
85x4 (F)

Decline BP
135x6
165x6
(The first two sets were pretty easy, could have done more. Put 185 on and went to lift and felt sharp pain in elbow so I racked it right away. So only two sets on Decline, but better that than reinjuring my elbow. The only problem w/decline is unracking the bar, it's so far behind my head, puts my shoulders in an ackward position.)

*****Fire did this and I like the idea. When there is an (F) next to the set that means went to failure. If there is not an F means I may have been able to squeeze out another one.

Rocco32 · 11-04-2003, 07:34 AM

Meals for today:

Meal 1, Shake- 40g protein, 1 1/2 cup oats, 2 tbsp pb

Meal 2, PWO shake- 40g prot., .5 cup oats

Meal 3- 3oz Turkey, 1/2 cup Fiber one

Meal 4- 1 can tuna w/olive spread, 1/2 cup Fiber one

Meal 5- Shake- 40g prot, 1 tbsp PB, 1.5 cup oats

Meal 6- 6oz Turkey, 1.5 cup rice w/ salsa

Meal 7- 40g prot, 1 tbsp PB

Cals- 2,980
Pro- 296, 43%
Carb-305, 36%
Fat- 65g, 21%

Rocco32 · 11-04-2003, 07:40 AM

I ordered some S1+. So I'll start that in about 1 1/2 weeks when I'm done with 6-oxo.

Back and Bi's- Power

Racked Deadlift- ( I may have to lower the bar some, it's right at my knee now, it should be a little lower than your knee right?)
225x6
245x6 (F)
265x5 (F)

Bent BB Row-
135x6
155x4 (F)
155x5 (F)

Wide grip Pull-up-
BW- 6
BW- 5 (F)
BW- 4 (F)

CG Seated Row- ( I really don't like this exercise, hurts elbow. Any alternative suggestions?)
110x6 (F)
110x4(F)

Reverse Butterfly
110x8
125x10
140x8 (F)

Reverse Str8t bar curl-
50x10
60x8 (F)

Hammer Curl-
35x6
35x7 (F)

BabsieGirl · 11-04-2003, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock4832
It's hard, but I can accept some fat with the bulk. What bothers me is in the past month my chest and arm and leg sizes have gone down while my waist went up. I'd be ok is everything went up with the waist or even stayed the same. But the fact that it actually went down confuses me.

Normally I measure first thing in the morning, yesterday I measured in the afternoon.

Maybe you were bloated?

What are you using to measure your waist? If you're measuring with tape, then I'd almost think you put some muscle on in that area. Let me know and I'll analyze.

Remember the roll of thumb. It generally takes 6 weeks for your body to make a change.

From what I've been reading, looks like you're doing a kick arse job. Keep up the good work and hold your head high. Can't wait to see your progress pics.

Eggs · 11-04-2003, 08:52 PM

Good attitude bro, keep at it!

And yeah, I'd say lower the bar a bit on those deadlifts! Make sure you keep your form as good as always with going lower, might take a little adjustment.

Rocco32 · 11-04-2003, 09:36 PM

Thanks for the reply eggs. I'll lower the bar, just seemed too easy and not enough ROM. Thanks for the tip, in three weeks we'll go at it again.

10-28-2003, 04:19 PM	#242
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Thanks for dropping in Eggs. Yeah, the arm is doing better but I'm afraid of messing it up again! I'm excited about next month!!
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

10-28-2003, 09:21 PM	#243
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Meals Meal 1, Shake- 40g protein, 1.5 cup oats, 1 tbsp PB, 4 strawberries Meal 2, PWO Shake- 40g pro, .5 cup oats Meal 3- 1 can tuna w/olive spread, 1/2 cup Fiber one Meal 4- 1 can tuna, 1/2 cup Fiber one, 1 slice Wheat bread Meal 5, shake- 40g pro, 1.5 cup oats, 1 tbsp PB Meal 6- 8oz Turkey burger, 1.5 cup rice w/ salsa Meal 7- 40g pro, 4tbsp PB (got carried away, it was sooooo good) Cals- 3,225 Pro- 325, 44% Carb-324, 35% Fat- 68g,21%
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

10-30-2003, 10:55 AM	#244
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Meals yesterday the 29th Meal 1, Shake- 1.5 cups oats, 2 tbsp PB, 40g protein, 5 strawberries Meal 2- 1 can tuna, 1 piece Wheat bread, .5 cup Fiber one Meal 3, Shake- 40g Prot, 2 tbsp PB Meal 4- 8 oz Flounder, 1 plum Meal 5- 8oz Top round steak, 1 cup rice Meal 6- 40g protein, 1 tbsp PB Cals- 2,886 Pro- 339, 50% Carb-191, 23% Fat- 78g,28%
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

10-30-2003, 01:38 PM	#245
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Today was Chest and Tri's. My strength has definately gone down since 1-ad and not taking 6-oxo. Makes me want to cry! Incline BB, 4 sets- 155x8, 165x6, 175x4, 135x9 Flat DB Bench, 3 sets- 65x8, 55x9, 55x9 Dips, 2 sets- 9, 6 Skullcrusher, 2 sets- 75x9, 75x7 Pushdown, 2 sets- 100x8, 80x10 Reverse one arm pulldown, 1 set- 20x8
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

10-31-2003, 07:36 AM	#246
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Meals for 10-30 Meal 1, Shake- 1.5 cups oats, 2 tbsp PB, 40g protein, 5 strawberries Meal 2- 1 can tuna, 1 piece Wheat bread, 1 plum Meal 3, Shake- 40g Prot, 2 tbsp PB, 1.5 cup oats Meal 4, PWO Shake- 40g prot, 1/2 cup oats Meal 5- 8 oz Flounder, 1 plum, 1/2 cup Fiber one, 1 whole wheat bread Meal 6- 8oz Top round steak, 1.5 cup rice Meal 7- 40g protein, 1 tbsp PB Cals- 3,609 Pro- 352, 42% Carb-319, 33% Fat- 92g,25%
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

10-28-2003, 08:44 AM	#241
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Hey Rock! Hope your arm is doing better, thats always a pain when you're trying to hit the gym hard. Keep taking that oxo-6, and see ya next month!

10-31-2003, 07:38 AM	#247
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Today was Shoulders and forearms- DB Press, 3 sets- 50x10, 50x8, 50x8 Rear Cable, 3 sets- 15x10, 20x10, 20x10 Side Lat Raise Machine, 3 sets- 80x10, 80x10, 80x10 Wrist Curl BB, 3 sets- 85x15, 85x11, 85x6 Reverse Wrist Curl, 3 sets- 40x15, 30x15, 30x12
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

10-31-2003, 07:47 AM	#248
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Here is today's meals Meal 1, Shake- 1.5 cups oats, 2 tbsp PB, 40g protein, 5 strawberries Meal 2, PWO Shake- 40g prot, 1/2 cup oats Meal 3- 6oz Flounder, .5 cup fiber one Meal 4- 1 can tuna, 1 piece Wheat bread, .5 cup Fiber one Meal 5, Shake- 40g Prot, 2 tbsp PB, 1.5 cup oats Meal 6- 6oz Turkey Burger, 1 1/2 cup rice Meal 7- 40g protein, 1 tbsp PB Cals- 3,247 Pro- 304, 41% Carb-324, 35% Fat- 80g,24%
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

10-31-2003, 10:45 AM	#249
Jenny Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,728	Glad to see you're back in the gym Rock Don't cry over lost strength, it will be back before you know it See you soon!

10-31-2003, 11:16 AM	#250
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Thanks Jen, I'm glad I'm back in the gym. Just hope it's not a recurrent problem. Can't wait till we get to meet, that'll be fun!
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-02-2003, 07:25 AM	#251
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Alright, last night I had 6 slices of Papa John's pepporini and Mushroom pizza, 1 Miller's lite, and 6 little nutrageous bars (Halloween size)
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-02-2003, 07:30 AM	#252
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Ok, I need to vent here a bit. I take my measurements the 1st of every month. Yesterday almost all my measurements had gone down a bit, except stomach which was up an INCH!! What the Hell?!? I train 4-5 days a week, I eat extremely clean except Sat. night. Could this be due to the 1-ad cycle and not doing 6-oxo right after, my test levels dropped and so did my measurements? I've been eating alot, normally between 3-3,400 cals a day. But I'm under the impression that's what I have to do to put on muscle. I think I'm dropping it to 2,800 cals unless I'm on a 1-ad/4-ad cycle and then go back up. I'm really upset right now. I've been busting my ass and have nothing to show for it.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-02-2003, 08:01 AM	#253
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	More complaining coming! I still have no shoulders! My strength has gone up quite a bit, but I don't notice any size. Same with Chest, lifts have gone up alot for me but I don't notice any difference in size.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-02-2003, 08:18 AM	#254
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Any bulk comes with a little fat in the wrong places. What time of day did you take your measurements? Your doing a clean bulk, it takes time and this doesn't happen overnight. With bulking you have to accept the bad with the good
	Essence EFA

11-02-2003, 08:26 AM	#255
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	It's hard, but I can accept some fat with the bulk. What bothers me is in the past month my chest and arm and leg sizes have gone down while my waist went up. I'd be ok is everything went up with the waist or even stayed the same. But the fact that it actually went down confuses me. Normally I measure first thing in the morning, yesterday I measured in the afternoon.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-02-2003, 10:24 AM	#257
Jenny Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,728	Hey Rock! Hang in there, results will come

11-02-2003, 02:36 PM	#258
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,286 Photos: 36	Welcome to the club Rock!! Bust your ass for little gains..... Dont worry about the fat, it will come off.... i'm up to 209lbs and i hate the little roll of fat around the waist i been gettin but it's for a cause so i can handle it. Keep working hard mate and the results will come. W8 till you take pics in Jan and you'll see. I've taken pics from when i first started training and i cant see much difference but when someone else looks they go WOW... Our perception of self can be the biggest downer.... keep training mate... use the downer for the motivation to push yourself beyond your limits....
	My Journal

11-02-2003, 08:40 PM	#259
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	Rock, I'd like to help you but your in the same contest I am so I want you to look like shit sorry. hahahahahaha just kidding my friend. my 1st bit of advise is don't live by a scale and tape measure. Your checking too often my man. you will only depress yourself. Muscle takes time. Since this contest started I have only measured my waist once and just the other day my arms cause they were looking bigger and wasn't sure if it was just my imagination. If your not happy with your shoulder training, prioritize them as I did. I also have the same problem with shoulders so I give them their own special day and do not train them with any other bodypart. As for waist, I lost over an inch around my waist but since started Creatine and 1T. Creatine causes me to feel bloated and retain water so I'm not worrying about the waist right now yet not letting it get out of control. YOur problem may be the 1AD but I can't say for sure; I don't know much about it.

11-02-2003, 09:22 PM	#260
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Hey bro, keep working at it! Not to sound trite, but changing your body takes time. The biggest mistake people make is underestimating the effort that it will require of them. However, you're already on the road... stick to it and reap the benefits!

11-02-2003, 09:53 PM	#261
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Thanks everyone, I appreciate the support! Really makes me feel better! I added in a bit of HIIT training, I think that will at least make me feel better. I know it takes time, just freaked me out when i measured, I'm doing better now. Keeping the bulk up, just can't wait for the cut.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-03-2003, 09:13 AM	#262
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Meals for today: Meal 1, Shake- 40g protein, 1 1/2 cup oats, 2 tbsp pb Meal 2, PWO shake- 40g prot., .5 cup oats Meal 3- 1 can tuna w/olive spread, 1/2 cup Fiber one Meal 4, Shake- 1 cup oats, 1tbsp PB, 40g prot Meal 5- 1 can tuna, 1/2 cup Fiber one Meal 6- 8oz Top round steak, 1 cup rice Meal 7- 40g prot, 1 tbsp PB Cals- 3,106 Pro- 335, 46% Carb-256, 28% Fat- 83g, 26%
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-03-2003, 09:19 AM	#263
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Chest day- power Bench Press 175x6 195x6 205x4 (If I had a spotter, might have done another) 215x3 F (Had a spotter, did 4 but I think he helped a bit on last one.) Incline DB Press 70x6 80x6 85x4 (F) Decline BP 135x6 165x6 (The first two sets were pretty easy, could have done more. Put 185 on and went to lift and felt sharp pain in elbow so I racked it right away. So only two sets on Decline, but better that than reinjuring my elbow. The only problem w/decline is unracking the bar, it's so far behind my head, puts my shoulders in an ackward position.) *****Fire did this and I like the idea. When there is an (F) next to the set that means went to failure. If there is not an F means I may have been able to squeeze out another one.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-04-2003, 07:34 AM	#264
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Meals for today: Meal 1, Shake- 40g protein, 1 1/2 cup oats, 2 tbsp pb Meal 2, PWO shake- 40g prot., .5 cup oats Meal 3- 3oz Turkey, 1/2 cup Fiber one Meal 4- 1 can tuna w/olive spread, 1/2 cup Fiber one Meal 5- Shake- 40g prot, 1 tbsp PB, 1.5 cup oats Meal 6- 6oz Turkey, 1.5 cup rice w/ salsa Meal 7- 40g prot, 1 tbsp PB Cals- 2,980 Pro- 296, 43% Carb-305, 36% Fat- 65g, 21%
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-04-2003, 07:40 AM	#265
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	I ordered some S1+. So I'll start that in about 1 1/2 weeks when I'm done with 6-oxo. Back and Bi's- Power Racked Deadlift- ( I may have to lower the bar some, it's right at my knee now, it should be a little lower than your knee right?) 225x6 245x6 (F) 265x5 (F) Bent BB Row- 135x6 155x4 (F) 155x5 (F) Wide grip Pull-up- BW- 6 BW- 5 (F) BW- 4 (F) CG Seated Row- ( I really don't like this exercise, hurts elbow. Any alternative suggestions?) 110x6 (F) 110x4(F) Reverse Butterfly 110x8 125x10 140x8 (F) Reverse Str8t bar curl- 50x10 60x8 (F) Hammer Curl- 35x6 35x7 (F)
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-04-2003, 08:52 PM	#267
Eggs Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,008	Good attitude bro, keep at it! And yeah, I'd say lower the bar a bit on those deadlifts! Make sure you keep your form as good as always with going lower, might take a little adjustment.

11-04-2003, 09:36 PM	#268
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Thanks for the reply eggs. I'll lower the bar, just seemed too easy and not enough ROM. Thanks for the tip, in three weeks we'll go at it again.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...