Online Comp Conversation/whoring Thread

firestorm · 09-29-2003, 03:33 AM

OK back on the Comp topic. So what do you all think, am I maybe taking this just a little too far??? Earlier today I was eating on one of those Jolly Rancher hard tack candies BUT so not to add sugar to my diet, I would spit in a cup.

TheGreatSatan · 09-29-2003, 03:47 AM

The enzymes on your tongue and gums absorb the carbs while it's in your mouth. Not swallowing it just cuts back on the sugar, it doesn't eliminate it.

firestorm · 09-29-2003, 04:39 AM

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Originally posted by TheGreatSatan

The enzymes on your tongue and gums absorb the carbs while it's in your mouth. Not swallowing it just cuts back on the sugar, it doesn't eliminate it.

I know what your saying Satan, it's just the principle of a single little thng like that and being afraid to eat it.

TheGreatSatan · 09-29-2003, 05:33 AM

I eat orange tic tacs. It's as close as I can get to real sweets.

Rocco32 · 09-29-2003, 07:21 AM

When I was losing all my weight Fire, I would put a chocolate in my mouth, chew it up and then spit it out. My family thought something was wrong with me, but sometimes you give in to the point of actually putting food your abstaining from in your mouth. I don't believe the battle ends there though, you still have a choice to get rid of it. Yeah, your still gonna get some cal's, and sugar, but not as much as if you allowed yourself to finish it.

ponyboy · 09-29-2003, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by firestorm
OK back on the Comp topic. So what do you all think, am I maybe taking this just a little too far??? Earlier today I was eating on one of those Jolly Rancher hard tack candies BUT so not to add sugar to my diet, I would spit in a cup.

OMG that's awesome! That should be used as an example of dedication for sticking to your diet.

Personally I think if you are beating up on yourself for having a small cheat every week then you're taking things too seriously. Don't beat up on yourself for consuming a couple of grams of sugar...you're going to make yourself crazy!

Don't even ask me about my weekend! It was Homecoming and spent out with the boys reliving old memories at the frat house. Needless to say, it wasn't very diet condusive. I just told myself I would get back on the wagon today and stay on it.

dvlmn666 · 09-29-2003, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by firestorm
dvlmn666, Any and all "over the counter" suppliments are acceptable. NO STEROIDS or Illegal doping of any kind. Rule is simple, if you can't find it at your local health food store,over the counter Pharmacy, or department store, it's not allowed.
My Reasons for this are as follows
1. If someone that is thinetically Challenged (my word for overweight) goes on the Internet or Mexico and buys Steroid Cutting drugs or diuretics, etc, they are posing more harm then good to their bodies and that does not promote good health and conditioning.
2. It just would not be fair for all the clean people in the contest. (I see from the journals that the members involved in the contest are already working their asses off (and I mean that literally) and eating so clean and healthy).

I totally agree.

BabsieGirl · 09-29-2003, 02:19 PM

Hey everyone. I made another thread. Come check it out. Whoring allowed. Very informational.

Competition Conversation on Figure/Fitness Posing Suits"

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shortstuff · 09-29-2003, 03:30 PM

Hey Babsie I just saw your new thread and totally love it, awesome work babe!!!! Oh so you have competed, do you have pics posted?? Oh and I am so glad you are joining, sorry I may be way behind I was gone gor like the last week with work and my last vacation. So am ready to cut the crap, literaly and get a bit leaner and add some muscle to my upper self

J'Bo · 09-29-2003, 05:55 PM

Eating and spitting hey...i know all about that...on my no carb days for a couple of comps ago i always forgot i couldnt eat any carbs and would through a cracker in my mouth and then spit it out...however i dont ever do it on prupose cause to me nothings the same unless you swallow

firestorm · 09-29-2003, 07:04 PM

Well I'm going to check out Babs new thread but I doubt I'll have anything to say in there. I don't know squat about Fitness comps and bathing suits.

BabsieGirl · 09-29-2003, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by shortstuff
Hey Babsie I just saw your new thread and totally love it, awesome work babe!!!! Oh so you have competed, do you have pics posted?? Oh and I am so glad you are joining, sorry I may be way behind I was gone gor like the last week with work and my last vacation. So am ready to cut the crap, literaly and get a bit leaner and add some muscle to my upper self

hey Shortstuff -- I sure do! My pics are located in my journal. Feel free to poke around. Yeah, I've competed. Only one show though. Working on number 2 and three that are just around the corner. The competition is going to be a tough one. I'm goanna try to make it in time. But, if I don't, that means I'm even closer for the next.

Vacation!!! Must be nice. The only vacation I can take are the days spent at the gym. having two kids, working full time and going to the gym two times a day really gets hectic. Plus, having to prepare meals the night before for tomorrows eating. Speaking of eating. I'm getting ready to eat some TUNA....doesn't that sound YUMMY? NOT!!! I'm going to post more pics next week sometime for my personal use.

About the thread I made, my goal was/is to help everyone for future reference incase we young ladies get inspired to compete. Competing can be very rewarding and discouraging at times. But, when you get discouraged, it's time to pick up and work all that much harder. Remember the one who beat you cause next time, you're going to bring it all that much more!!!! Keep that in mind, and you'll do better and get better. I just wish I could get my abs in. I have this pocket of fat that is stored right around my belly button. Makes my button look like a coin slot. ha ha ha. The guys and I were joking around about that this evening. Anway, I'll keep posing information in the thread to keep all informed.

Please keep in mind, everyone is welcome to post ideas and questions. I'm also thinking about taking pics and posting them of all the types of posing you can do.

EVERYONE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK....

firestorm · 09-29-2003, 07:21 PM

Damn I like this girl.

BabsieGirl · 09-29-2003, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by firestorm
Damn I like this girl.

Thanks Firestorm. I like you too. This is going to be sooo much fun. You know what? At the end of this competition. We're all winners. Why? Well, at the end, just take your photo's before and after and sit them side by side. It'll speak for itself.

It's kick ass time.!!!! Woo hoo......

Night everyone!

firestorm · 09-29-2003, 07:49 PM

Oh damn, I REALLY like this girl. I'd swear she copied that straight from my 1st original post regarding this compition. She is a female ME!!! HAHAHAHA Night Babs. High five and slap on the back girl.

maniclion · 09-29-2003, 08:07 PM

Hell yeah, her post reminds me of pre-game psyching back in the football days when we used to slap each other on the shoulder pads and bang helmets. I feel pretty amped, too bad I gotta layoff a couple more days for my knee. Maybe tonight I'll do some flexing in the mirror while I ice my sprain.

maniclion · 09-29-2003, 08:13 PM

Looks like Tank is joining

To Babs, Fire you guys could have referenced your journal pics using the vb code
{img}http://www.ironmagazine.com/forum/images/vblogo.gif{/img} except use these [] brackets not these{}
you then get the image address from the new window that opens when you click on the attachment hyperlink.

Tank316 · 09-30-2003, 05:08 AM

looks like a great bunch of people!!!

firestorm · 09-30-2003, 05:15 AM

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Originally posted by maniclion
Looks like Tank is joining

To Babs, Fire you guys could have referenced your journal pics using the vb code
{img}http://www.ironmagazine.com/forum/images/vblogo.gif{/img} except use these [] brackets not these{}
you then get the image address from the new window that opens when you click on the attachment hyperlink.

Thanks MC I'll remember this for next time.

ponyboy · 09-30-2003, 04:01 PM

Man, it amazes me from reading others' journal how inconsistent my weights are for different movements. For example, I can do weighted dips with a 25 for a 6-8RM, but I can barely press up 55 lb. dumbbells on flat DB press...most people can do 20-30 lbs. more. My flat bench is pathetic and always has been, but with flyes I can keep up with most people twice my size. Same with my back...I can deadlift 300 lbs. but can barely barbell curl 85.

Could this have to do with my muscle length, or simply because I have crappy shoulders that have been injured several times? It pisses me off.

naturaltan · 10-01-2003, 11:09 AM

PB ... you can use other's weights as maybe aguide, but you have to focus on what you're doing. If you feel you're not as strong as you'd like in a certain area, focus more on that.

I personally use the mirror to tell me what I should be doing more of. I must say that I'm a minority when I can honestly say that I'm very happy with my physique.

I think I'm probably above average in strength for the normal 160lb'er (Imean the 160lb'er who has just started lifting

). But when compared to a local National Powerlifting champ here who weights in the same, I way down on strength.

He can lift a scarey amount of weight for reps. So it comes back to you and what you feel you need to focus on.

naturaltan · 10-01-2003, 11:18 AM

PB ... here is some basic weighs I lift
bench: 245 for 2 reps
db curls: 50 for 8 reps
squats: 245 for 8 reps
deadlift: 315 for 2 reps
wide grip lat pullups: bw + 90lbs for 2 reps
angled dips (chest) bw + 90lbs for 6 reps
db press: 65 for 8 reps

those are just some of the weights I push - again, to most, they aren't much, but for me, they are great and I'm happy with my size/strength. It doesn't mean I stop trying to increasing my weights, just that I'm happy where I'm at now.

Jenny · 10-01-2003, 12:31 PM

Okay, I have a problem..

I've been invited to this dinner at a friends place on Saturday.. That means eating things I didn't cook myself, things that probably doesn't fit my diet..
I really don't want to cheat, I don't want any crap because I don't need it. I'm not craving it. Since I don't know this girl all that well, and don't know her friends at all, there is no way I'd bring my own food. I just can't! I know I shouldn't beat myself up over small cheats every now and then, but the thing is that I don't WANT any other food, I'm satisfied with my meal plan..

How do you deal with social events like this? My family and closest friends are all used to me eating my own stuff and staying away from the crap, but people that I don't know that well are harder to deal with.

butterfly · 10-01-2003, 12:37 PM

sheesh that's a tough one Jenny! Wish I had some good advice for you

Jenny · 10-01-2003, 12:40 PM

Me too Ann

I don't want to become Ms. Anti-social

Why does every social thing have to involve food??

shortstuff · 10-01-2003, 12:43 PM

Well is the whole event eating??? If it isn't, just make a reason to be a little tardy and then be social for the rest of the evening and if they offer food say you are not hungry but thank you very much.

Jenny · 10-01-2003, 01:58 PM

It's basicly a dinner and that's it! I'll talk to the girl and ask.. Thank's Shorty

09-29-2003, 03:33 AM	#91
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com OK back on the Comp topic. So what do you all think, am I maybe taking this just a little too far??? Earlier today I was eating on one of those Jolly Rancher hard tack candies BUT so not to add sugar to my diet, I would spit in a cup.

09-29-2003, 03:47 AM	#92
TheGreatSatan Satan Loves You Too Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In Min0's Bed! Posts: 11,778 Photos: 16	The enzymes on your tongue and gums absorb the carbs while it's in your mouth. Not swallowing it just cuts back on the sugar, it doesn't eliminate it.
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09-29-2003, 05:33 AM	#94
TheGreatSatan Satan Loves You Too Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In Min0's Bed! Posts: 11,778 Photos: 16	I eat orange tic tacs. It's as close as I can get to real sweets.
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09-29-2003, 07:21 AM	#95
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	When I was losing all my weight Fire, I would put a chocolate in my mouth, chew it up and then spit it out. My family thought something was wrong with me, but sometimes you give in to the point of actually putting food your abstaining from in your mouth. I don't believe the battle ends there though, you still have a choice to get rid of it. Yeah, your still gonna get some cal's, and sugar, but not as much as if you allowed yourself to finish it.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

09-29-2003, 02:19 PM	#98
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Hey everyone. I made another thread. Come check it out. Whoring allowed. Very informational. Competition Conversation on Figure/Fitness Posing Suits" Under Competition Arena
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-29-2003, 03:30 PM	#99
shortstuff Trying to Survive Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,727	Hey Babsie I just saw your new thread and totally love it, awesome work babe!!!! Oh so you have competed, do you have pics posted?? Oh and I am so glad you are joining, sorry I may be way behind I was gone gor like the last week with work and my last vacation. So am ready to cut the crap, literaly and get a bit leaner and add some muscle to my upper self
	Good things come to those who wait........

09-29-2003, 05:55 PM	#100
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Eating and spitting hey...i know all about that...on my no carb days for a couple of comps ago i always forgot i couldnt eat any carbs and would through a cracker in my mouth and then spit it out...however i dont ever do it on prupose cause to me nothings the same unless you swallow
	....and thats my $.02

09-29-2003, 07:04 PM	#101
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	Well I'm going to check out Babs new thread but I doubt I'll have anything to say in there. I don't know squat about Fitness comps and bathing suits.

09-29-2003, 07:21 PM	#103
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	Damn I like this girl.

09-29-2003, 07:49 PM	#105
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	Oh damn, I REALLY like this girl. I'd swear she copied that straight from my 1st original post regarding this compition. She is a female ME!!! HAHAHAHA Night Babs. High five and slap on the back girl.

09-29-2003, 08:07 PM	#106
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 17,269 Photos: 10	Hell yeah, her post reminds me of pre-game psyching back in the football days when we used to slap each other on the shoulder pads and bang helmets. I feel pretty amped, too bad I gotta layoff a couple more days for my knee. Maybe tonight I'll do some flexing in the mirror while I ice my sprain.

09-29-2003, 08:13 PM	#107
maniclion Catalyst Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hawaii, selling munitions for the war on EcoTerror Posts: 17,269 Photos: 10	Looks like Tank is joining To Babs, Fire you guys could have referenced your journal pics using the vb code {img}http://www.ironmagazine.com/forum/images/vblogo.gif{/img} except use these [] brackets not these{} you then get the image address from the new window that opens when you click on the attachment hyperlink.

09-30-2003, 05:08 AM	#108
Tank316 P/RR/Sh Warrior Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Barron,Wi Posts: 4,345 Photos: 8	looks like a great bunch of people!!!
	P/RR/Sh Warrior. Epic's new man beast.

09-30-2003, 04:01 PM	#110
ponyboy Training Trainer Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Running around somewhere Posts: 2,608 Photos: 1	Man, it amazes me from reading others' journal how inconsistent my weights are for different movements. For example, I can do weighted dips with a 25 for a 6-8RM, but I can barely press up 55 lb. dumbbells on flat DB press...most people can do 20-30 lbs. more. My flat bench is pathetic and always has been, but with flyes I can keep up with most people twice my size. Same with my back...I can deadlift 300 lbs. but can barely barbell curl 85. Could this have to do with my muscle length, or simply because I have crappy shoulders that have been injured several times? It pisses me off.
	Today I can do what others will not so that tomorrow I will do what others cannot. The difference between winners and losers is that winners do things that losers don't want to do.

10-01-2003, 11:09 AM	#111
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,900 Photos: 7	PB ... you can use other's weights as maybe aguide, but you have to focus on what you're doing. If you feel you're not as strong as you'd like in a certain area, focus more on that. I personally use the mirror to tell me what I should be doing more of. I must say that I'm a minority when I can honestly say that I'm very happy with my physique. I think I'm probably above average in strength for the normal 160lb'er (Imean the 160lb'er who has just started lifting ). But when compared to a local National Powerlifting champ here who weights in the same, I way down on strength. He can lift a scarey amount of weight for reps. So it comes back to you and what you feel you need to focus on.
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

10-01-2003, 11:18 AM	#112
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,900 Photos: 7	PB ... here is some basic weighs I lift bench: 245 for 2 reps db curls: 50 for 8 reps squats: 245 for 8 reps deadlift: 315 for 2 reps wide grip lat pullups: bw + 90lbs for 2 reps angled dips (chest) bw + 90lbs for 6 reps db press: 65 for 8 reps those are just some of the weights I push - again, to most, they aren't much, but for me, they are great and I'm happy with my size/strength. It doesn't mean I stop trying to increasing my weights, just that I'm happy where I'm at now.
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

10-01-2003, 12:31 PM	#113
Jenny Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,728	Okay, I have a problem.. I've been invited to this dinner at a friends place on Saturday.. That means eating things I didn't cook myself, things that probably doesn't fit my diet.. I really don't want to cheat, I don't want any crap because I don't need it. I'm not craving it. Since I don't know this girl all that well, and don't know her friends at all, there is no way I'd bring my own food. I just can't! I know I shouldn't beat myself up over small cheats every now and then, but the thing is that I don't WANT any other food, I'm satisfied with my meal plan.. How do you deal with social events like this? My family and closest friends are all used to me eating my own stuff and staying away from the crap, but people that I don't know that well are harder to deal with.

10-01-2003, 12:37 PM	#114
butterfly Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,526 Photos: 11	sheesh that's a tough one Jenny! Wish I had some good advice for you
	~Ann We must teach our children to dream with their eyes open. -Harry Edwards

10-01-2003, 12:40 PM	#115
Jenny Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,728	Me too Ann I don't want to become Ms. Anti-social Why does every social thing have to involve food??

10-01-2003, 12:43 PM	#116
shortstuff Trying to Survive Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,727	Well is the whole event eating??? If it isn't, just make a reason to be a little tardy and then be social for the rest of the evening and if they offer food say you are not hungry but thank you very much.
	Good things come to those who wait........

10-01-2003, 01:58 PM	#117
Jenny Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,728	It's basicly a dinner and that's it! I'll talk to the girl and ask.. Thank's Shorty