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Old 11-04-2003, 01:51 PM   #121
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Old 11-04-2003, 01:54 PM   #122
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this is first year my glutes will be fully in so it should be a good show if i loose I will be beat on symmetry (which next year will be fixed ) that i vow. laready at 4 gallons of water today i got 1 more to go LOL



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Old 11-04-2003, 02:00 PM   #123
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lol...Glutes are nice! Is this your first year competing? When is your competition? Hard, you look fantastic now. Keep up the good work. It's paying off.

4 gallons of water???? Wholly cow.

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Old 11-04-2003, 02:51 PM   #124
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Thanks for the compliment on the wife. She is now trying to get back her former body. I think what she was missing from her regime was a more intense workout. She's now working out with me, hopefully that will solve that problem.
She already has a great bod!!! She is definitely a genuine hottie!!!



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Old 11-04-2003, 02:52 PM   #125
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wheew you all scared me. I'm not ready for pics yet.
You guys scared the crap out of me Jan 11th is already too soon.



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Old 11-04-2003, 03:43 PM   #126
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Amen to anything before January 11 being too soon!



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Old 11-05-2003, 02:53 PM   #127
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Are you sure your talking lateral raise and not DB Press? That's impossible if you are.

I only use 15lbs for lateral raise.



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Old 11-05-2003, 02:57 PM   #128
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Yeppers. I use 50lb DB for side shoulder raises. I do 30 reps that are pulse half way up, all the way down.
Hmm, I can do 55 for 10 or so if I walk in the gym fresh. Since I do presses first lately I use 45 & 50s... I saw Ronnie using poor form with I believe 85s in his video.
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Old 11-05-2003, 02:59 PM   #129
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Hmm, I can do 55 for 10 or so if I walk in the gym fresh. Since I do presses first lately I use 45 & 50s... I saw Ronnie using poor form with I believe 85s in his video.
Your not doing them straight armed though are you Mudge?



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Old 11-05-2003, 03:01 PM   #130
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I bend my elbows SLIGHTLY if thats what you mean, unless I would be using a seriously light weight, which I dont. For standing overhead pressing I start with 175x5 FWIW.
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Holy crap man! I struggle with 25 for 4 reps. I sit and try to keep my arms straight, but of course there is a very little bend in them. I bow at your feet!



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Old 11-05-2003, 03:13 PM   #132
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I was using 35s around a year ago, my shoulders used to always bug me, so I did very slow reps for awhile (TUT)... Sorry for whoring the thread!
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Me to Babs. You can come whore mine up some if ya want.



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Old 11-05-2003, 03:59 PM   #134
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I don't mind you all talking in here. No biggie.

Jodi -- Thanks for visiting. They're side shoulder raises. Yes I'm sure they're not press's. I don't think you guys are picturing this.

Last time -- Imagine this...You're standin, while holding DB's to the side of you. you pulse half way up, straight arms for 30 reps. Its not that dif.

I'm now amazed you all haven't doubted that I do 300lb+for calve raises....30 reps. Most of the men in my gym can not even do that.

I don't know anyother way to help you all understand or vision this exercise.

Mudge -- Thanks for visiting. My training notes are logged in order of events. The 50lb DB raise was in the first phase.



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Couple years ago I used to watch a guy do behind the neck presses with 225 and I have felt that my shoulders sucked ever since, but that guy was also benching over 400.
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Are you sure your talking lateral raise and not DB Press? That's impossible if you are.

I only use 15lbs for lateral raise.

My max weight for side shoulder raises going all the way up is 35lb DB.

I never bend at the elbows.


Going all the way up using 50lb DBs is impossible for me to do.



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Okay gang.....I'm headed to the gym...........Tonight is back



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we got a photographer (the one who did most of my shoots this summer) to do our photos in Vegas next October. So now all we have to do is plan and diet and look hot and ok we have lots to do but we have lots of time



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Old 11-05-2003, 07:05 PM   #139
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Sure. I will have someone take a pic of me doing it Sunday. I also asked my trainer to register. I talked to him tonight about ways to explain it. So, he may pop in. dunno. He also said he doesn't think I go half way. Pretty close though...Maybe he can justify it better than me...who knows.

Okay I just stood up and measured about how far I come up....it's 2.5 feet (just under half way) away from my legs, arms straight.

Jodi -- as strong as you are, I can almost bet you can do that also. Is 15lbs your max weight? Hell, I bet J'Bo can do it also.

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i sure don't doubt you but i still can't picture it either. curious, are you benching with heavier than 50 lb dbs? it just seems so much harder to lift them out to the sides then to press 'em up straight up.



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Quick question, you wrote:
Seated Shoulder raises. 50lb. 10 Reps


Is this DB's as well or a loaded bar?



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Old 11-05-2003, 07:15 PM   #142
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Warm up

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Old 11-05-2003, 07:19 PM   #143
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i sure don't doubt you but i still can't picture it either. curious, are you benching with heavier than 50 lb dbs? it just seems so much harder to lift them out to the sides then to press 'em up straight up.

I don't use DBs for benching. I cannot recall the last time I used DBs for benching. Hopefully my pt can clear this up. I have used DBs before..not very much though......It's def. been a while.

I think quite the opposite. I think it would be harder to press them. Dunno. Never tried 50lb for benching. Always used the bar with loaded weight.



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Quick question, you wrote:
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Is this DB's as well or a loaded bar?

That exercise I didn't use DB or bar. It was a machine. Gee..how to explain this one...btw...did I mention how bad I suck at explaing things....ugh...here goes

It's this machine that has a seat..lol....and has little handles on it...those handles attach to cables or something like that and to the side are the weights, their numbered and have a little tool you use to "set" the weight to your liking. After you sit down and select your weight...you grip the side handles and lift straight up...hands go well above your head.....NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT WHAT I'M TYPING....I THINK IT'S A SHOULDER PRESS.....Would it be called a seated shoulder press?

I'm going to call my pt at home and see what he calls it. He tells me what to do and I do it, no questions asked.

This one for sure is the machine one...

The one Jodi is curious about is the free weights using 50lb DBs



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Yes, thats a shoulder press. People do alot more weight on the press movement than the lateral movement. This is why I think everyone is confused by you doing 50lb laterals- half way or not.

I am pretty strong for a chick as I use 40lb DBS on my heavy sets for presses yet I only do 17.5lb DB side laterals at most. Hell my fiance' only does 60lb laterals I think.

My point is maybe we dont understand the exercise you are describing. We are not doubting your strength really but I find it HIGHLY unlikely you are lifting 50lbs each side- even half way- when you can only do 50lb presses on a machine that offers more assistance then DB's.

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Yeah for sure. I do 30-35lb DB presses and only 15lb lateral raise. If I do BB Press its around 70-80lbs (reps depending) so as Leslie said, halfway or not, 50lbs is would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to lift even a bit to my side, never mind halfway.

Are you sure this is a lateral movement your doing????



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