Taking Control

**Jodi** · 12-05-2003, 09:34 PM

That defeats the purpose of no carb days doncha think

No carbs on NO CARB DAYS

I really need to know what your workout schedule is like just a bit please, it will help me setup a no, low and high cycle for you so that your arn't going out without carbs on training days. We need to work on this right away. Seriously, it will help speed up progress and leave you less sluggish on your training days.

Jill · 12-05-2003, 09:55 PM

K-Here's a look at the next week:

Sat: Legs
Sun: Shoulders
Mon: Bis + Cardio
Tues: Back + Cardio
Wed: Rest
Thurs: Chest n Tris + Cardio
Fri: Legs
Sat: Rest- Work and Xmas party #2
Sun: Shoulders

Dont know work schedule after sun. Will post soon. Any suggestions?

**Jodi** · 12-05-2003, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
K-Here's a look at the next week:

Sat: Legs high carb
Sun: Shoulders No carb
Mon: Bis + Cardio Low carb
Tues: Back + Cardio High Carb
Wed: Rest No Carb
Thurs: Chest n Tris + Cardio low carb
Fri: Legs High carb
Sat: Rest- Work and Xmas party #2 low carb,I'd rather make this a no carb and then Sunday low carb but not sure with xparty, what do you think?
Sun: Shoulders No carb

Dont know work schedule after sun. Will post soon. Any suggestions?

Jill · 12-05-2003, 10:23 PM

All sounds good. Thanks! Sat high carb cause of the xmas party. Would posting a weekly workout schedule be the best bet?

**Jodi** · 12-05-2003, 10:44 PM

NO Sat is LOW CARB DAY because of xmas party

Not High. Just try and be good, remember all those little cheats add up

Oh and yes and you can just email me and how bout those measurements? Got some new ones for me?

Jill · 12-05-2003, 10:49 PM

Oops, I did mean to say low. Will measure sun am. Pretty sure i'll break even, this week I was kinda off due to the sniffles. Who knows.

Jill · 12-06-2003, 11:17 AM

Saturday, December 6 - HIGH CARB DAY

Meal 1 - PREWORKOUT: 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1 egg white, protein, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, 3 fishies
(31P, 50C, 3F)
Meal 2 - POSTWORKOUT: 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1 egg white, protein, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, 10 olives,
(31P, 50C, 5F)
Meal 3 - 4 oz chicken, green beans, 5 oz sweet potatoes, 3 fishies
(32P, 42C, 3F)
Meal 4 - Protein, broccoli stems, 2 TBS dressing, 3 fishies
(32P, 3F)
Meal 5 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 1 slice ff ham, 1 slice ff cheese, green peppers, onion, 10 olives
(30P, 12F)

156P, 142C, 26F

WORKOUT:
Legs, 20 min cardio

hikerchick · 12-06-2003, 11:49 AM

Hey girly! You're doing great. Those Christmas parties are sooo tough to get through and be good. I just try and have the things I really love that aren't around all year - special treats. That way I don't munch on everything in sight! (Unless it's protein and veggies of course

)

jstar · 12-06-2003, 05:03 PM

Xmas parties are tough. What's even worse is trying to find ways to distract myself being that I am unemployed and snowed in with a house full of goodies. Seriously, I am staying on IM tonight til bedtime because I can't go out and I am sooo bored but at least reading the posts/journals (esp yours Jill

) helps a great deal. If you are doing a low carb day the day of the party maybe you can stick with lean meats and veggie platter if that is an option. Of course if it's one of those parties with lotsa desserts that could be more difficult to manage! Stick with it Jill, your goals are in sight and we are here for you. Do you have an option to bring a homemade dish with you???

Jill · 12-06-2003, 06:42 PM

I wish I could bring a homeade dish with me, its a pretty formal party! Ill just be pretty careful, Im going on holidays in a few and I need to look my best! +, Jodi is gettin mad cause I keep fuc**** up! Im with you on IM, my computer was broken, and I wasnt regularly posting, and my diet wasnt as clean! I love having a journal, its a real motivator eh? Have fun being snowed in, just dont get too bored, thats when I eat.

P.s. I like reading your journal too!

**Jodi** · 12-06-2003, 07:42 PM

Ahhhh sweetie, I'm not mad. I'm only trying to help you reach your goal. You were about to give up this diet a few weeks ago because you said it wasn't working until I pointed out your cheats and showed you that no diet will work unless you are consistant.

I only want you to reach your goals and I'm here to help you.

Now, I won't ever praise you for your cheats but I will never be mad cuz you fucked up.

Its your goals and you know the consequences of cheating...............however, I will always point them out because I know that when my cheats are pointed out I feel more guilty and less apt to cheat

Jill · 12-07-2003, 11:12 AM

You're the greatest Jodi, for real. I think you should come to Canada and visit me! Everything you said is so true. You are my biggest motivator here, thanks!

Jill · 12-07-2003, 11:23 AM

Sunday, December 7 - NO CARB DAY

Sniffles are back. No measurements today, TOM is here and I am feeling bloated and fat. My legs are so sore from yesterday I can barely walk.

Seriously.

Meal 1 - Protein, fishies
(32P, 3F)
Meal 2 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 2 slices ff ham, 1 slice ff cheese, green peppers, onions, fishies
(35P, 10.5F)
Meal 3 - 4oz chicken breast, brocolli stems, 1 1/2 TBS low cal dressing, fishies
(34P, 5F)
Meal 4 -
Meal 5 -

WORKOUT:
Shoulders-Pretty weak this morning.

**Jodi** · 12-07-2003, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
You're the greatest Jodi, for real. I think you should come to Canada and visit me! Everything you said is so true. You are my biggest motivator here, thanks!

Your such a doll

I have a better idea, how about you come visit me in AZ with warm weather and sunny skies all year round. Remember, I want away from the cold

Jill · 12-07-2003, 01:05 PM

He he. Ill be there! I love the sun and heat!

Quick question, I know I can have sf jello, how about sf pudding? Have you ever made sf pudding with water? Or, does it have too many carbs / cals?

**Jodi** · 12-07-2003, 01:08 PM

No stick with the jello please

How much jello are you eating anyway?

Jill · 12-07-2003, 01:38 PM

K. Maybe 2 boxes a week.

**Jodi** · 12-07-2003, 02:09 PM

Alright, that's plenty. No more though ok

naturaltan · 12-07-2003, 04:06 PM

... way to push the envelope.

Jill · 12-08-2003, 11:20 AM

Monday, December 8 - LOW CARB DAY

Meal 1 - Pre-workout: Protein, fishies
(31P, 3F)
Meal 2 - Post-workout: 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1 eggwhite, protein, 1/4 cup blueberries, 1 mandarin, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies
(32P, 68C, 3F)
Meal 3 - 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1 eggwhite, protein, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, 10 pists, fishies
(32P, 49C, 8F)
Meal 4 - Protein, brocolli stems, 2 TBS dressing, fishies
(32P, 7F)
Meal 5 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 2 slice ff cheese
(30P, 10F)

157P, 117C, 31F

WORKOUT:

Bis & 30 mins cardio, ouch! Lega still kinda sore

**Jodi** · 12-08-2003, 12:13 PM

What is your Dressing? Ingredients? Macros?

Jill · 12-08-2003, 05:08 PM

Kraft light Italian dressing. I use 2 TBS= 1.6C, 0.8F. I dont ever count them in my totals causethe numbers are so small! Have you eaten brocolli stems yet Jodi?

Jill · 12-08-2003, 06:57 PM

Can I eat someting like this tomorrow Jodi? Its a high carb day.

250 g Fat-Free Cottage Cheese(or low fat)
4 Tbls splenda
1 cup fresh strawberries of sf jam
whites of 2 eggs
juice and grated rind of ½ lemon

METHOD:

Chop the strawberries in small pieces and place in a bowl. Cover with 1 Tbls splenda and leave in refrigerator for ½ hour. Mix 2 Tbls splenda, Cottage Cheese in a bowl and add chopped strawberries. Beat the egg whites with 1 Tbls splenda to stiff creamy texture and fold into the strawberry and cheese mixture. Spoon into glass desert bowls and decorate with whole strawberries.

**Jodi** · 12-08-2003, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
Kraft light Italian dressing. I use 2 TBS= 1.6C, 0.8F. I dont ever count them in my totals causethe numbers are so small! Have you eaten brocolli stems yet Jodi?

Ok that dressing is fine. Broccoli stems are nasty, I only buy the florets.

**Jodi** · 12-08-2003, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
Can I eat someting like this tomorrow Jodi? Its a high carb day.

250 g Fat-Free Cottage Cheese(or low fat)
4 Tbls splenda
1 cup fresh strawberries of sf jam
whites of 2 eggs
juice and grated rind of ½ lemon

METHOD:

Chop the strawberries in small pieces and place in a bowl. Cover with 1 Tbls splenda and leave in refrigerator for ½ hour. Mix 2 Tbls splenda, Cottage Cheese in a bowl and add chopped strawberries. Beat the egg whites with 1 Tbls splenda to stiff creamy texture and fold into the strawberry and cheese mixture. Spoon into glass desert bowls and decorate with whole strawberries.

Its all fructose. Where's the complex carbs? I would say 1/2 C Fresh Strawberries (no jam) but you still need a complex carb.

Jill · 12-08-2003, 08:41 PM

So I can eat light cream cheese? You look real perrrty in your new pic!

Ive tried to put mine on their but is says my pic is too big?

**Jodi** · 12-08-2003, 08:56 PM

No you can't have cream cheese? Where did you get that idea?

Thanks

You just have to shrink it down to 75x75 pixels. Email it to me if you want and I can do it for you

Jill · 12-09-2003, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi
No you can't have cream cheese? Where did you get that idea?

Ooops, thought that recipe called for cream cheese, must have been day dreaming!

Jill · 12-09-2003, 11:04 AM

Tuesday, December 9 - HIGH CARB DAY

Meal 1 - PRE-WORKOUT: Detour bar

, 1 cup fiber 1, milk
(31P, 85C

, 10F)
Meal 2 - POST-WORKOUT: 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, protein, 1 egg white, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies
(31P, 55C, 3F)
Meal 3 - 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, protein, 1 egg white, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies
(31P, 55C, 3F)
Meal 4 - Protein, spinach, 2 TBS dressing, fishies
(31P, 3F)
Meal 5 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 1 slice ham, 1 slice ff cheese, onions, gren peppers
(32P, 8.5F)

156P, 195C, 27.5F

WORKOUT:
Back & 25 mins cardio

12-05-2003, 09:34 PM	#181
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	That defeats the purpose of no carb days doncha think No carbs on NO CARB DAYS I really need to know what your workout schedule is like just a bit please, it will help me setup a no, low and high cycle for you so that your arn't going out without carbs on training days. We need to work on this right away. Seriously, it will help speed up progress and leave you less sluggish on your training days.
	Essence EFA

12-05-2003, 10:44 PM	#185
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	NO Sat is LOW CARB DAY because of xmas party Not High. Just try and be good, remember all those little cheats add up Oh and yes and you can just email me and how bout those measurements? Got some new ones for me?
	Essence EFA

12-06-2003, 11:17 AM	#187
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Saturday, December 6 - HIGH CARB DAY Meal 1 - PREWORKOUT: 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1 egg white, protein, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, 3 fishies (31P, 50C, 3F) Meal 2 - POSTWORKOUT: 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1 egg white, protein, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, 10 olives, (31P, 50C, 5F) Meal 3 - 4 oz chicken, green beans, 5 oz sweet potatoes, 3 fishies (32P, 42C, 3F) Meal 4 - Protein, broccoli stems, 2 TBS dressing, 3 fishies (32P, 3F) Meal 5 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 1 slice ff ham, 1 slice ff cheese, green peppers, onion, 10 olives (30P, 12F) 156P, 142C, 26F WORKOUT: Legs, 20 min cardio Last edited by Jill : 12-07-2003 at 03:27 PM.

12-06-2003, 11:49 AM	#188
hikerchick Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Happy and Healthy Posts: 1,043	Hey girly! You're doing great. Those Christmas parties are sooo tough to get through and be good. I just try and have the things I really love that aren't around all year - special treats. That way I don't munch on everything in sight! (Unless it's protein and veggies of course )
	We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is just a habit. - Socrates I am worth it!

12-06-2003, 05:03 PM	#189
jstar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1,332 Photos: 5	Xmas parties are tough. What's even worse is trying to find ways to distract myself being that I am unemployed and snowed in with a house full of goodies. Seriously, I am staying on IM tonight til bedtime because I can't go out and I am sooo bored but at least reading the posts/journals (esp yours Jill) helps a great deal. If you are doing a low carb day the day of the party maybe you can stick with lean meats and veggie platter if that is an option. Of course if it's one of those parties with lotsa desserts that could be more difficult to manage! Stick with it Jill, your goals are in sight and we are here for you. Do you have an option to bring a homemade dish with you???

12-05-2003, 09:55 PM	#182
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	K-Here's a look at the next week: Sat: Legs Sun: Shoulders Mon: Bis + Cardio Tues: Back + Cardio Wed: Rest Thurs: Chest n Tris + Cardio Fri: Legs Sat: Rest- Work and Xmas party #2 Sun: Shoulders Dont know work schedule after sun. Will post soon. Any suggestions?

12-05-2003, 10:23 PM	#184
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	All sounds good. Thanks! Sat high carb cause of the xmas party. Would posting a weekly workout schedule be the best bet?

12-05-2003, 10:49 PM	#186
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Oops, I did mean to say low. Will measure sun am. Pretty sure i'll break even, this week I was kinda off due to the sniffles. Who knows.

12-06-2003, 06:42 PM	#190
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	I wish I could bring a homeade dish with me, its a pretty formal party! Ill just be pretty careful, Im going on holidays in a few and I need to look my best! +, Jodi is gettin mad cause I keep fuc**** up! Im with you on IM, my computer was broken, and I wasnt regularly posting, and my diet wasnt as clean! I love having a journal, its a real motivator eh? Have fun being snowed in, just dont get too bored, thats when I eat. P.s. I like reading your journal too!

12-06-2003, 07:42 PM	#191
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Ahhhh sweetie, I'm not mad. I'm only trying to help you reach your goal. You were about to give up this diet a few weeks ago because you said it wasn't working until I pointed out your cheats and showed you that no diet will work unless you are consistant. I only want you to reach your goals and I'm here to help you. Now, I won't ever praise you for your cheats but I will never be mad cuz you fucked up. Its your goals and you know the consequences of cheating...............however, I will always point them out because I know that when my cheats are pointed out I feel more guilty and less apt to cheat
	Essence EFA

12-07-2003, 11:12 AM	#192
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	You're the greatest Jodi, for real. I think you should come to Canada and visit me! Everything you said is so true. You are my biggest motivator here, thanks!

12-07-2003, 11:23 AM	#193
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Sunday, December 7 - NO CARB DAY Sniffles are back. No measurements today, TOM is here and I am feeling bloated and fat. My legs are so sore from yesterday I can barely walk. Seriously. Meal 1 - Protein, fishies (32P, 3F) Meal 2 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 2 slices ff ham, 1 slice ff cheese, green peppers, onions, fishies (35P, 10.5F) Meal 3 - 4oz chicken breast, brocolli stems, 1 1/2 TBS low cal dressing, fishies (34P, 5F) Meal 4 - Meal 5 - WORKOUT: Shoulders-Pretty weak this morning. Last edited by Jill : 12-07-2003 at 03:25 PM.

12-07-2003, 01:05 PM	#195
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	He he. Ill be there! I love the sun and heat! Quick question, I know I can have sf jello, how about sf pudding? Have you ever made sf pudding with water? Or, does it have too many carbs / cals?

12-07-2003, 01:08 PM	#196
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	No stick with the jello please How much jello are you eating anyway?
	Essence EFA

12-07-2003, 01:38 PM	#197
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	K. Maybe 2 boxes a week.

12-07-2003, 04:06 PM	#199
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,927 Photos: 7	... way to push the envelope.
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

12-07-2003, 02:09 PM	#198
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Alright, that's plenty. No more though ok
	Essence EFA

12-08-2003, 11:20 AM	#200
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Monday, December 8 - LOW CARB DAY Meal 1 - Pre-workout: Protein, fishies (31P, 3F) Meal 2 - Post-workout: 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1 eggwhite, protein, 1/4 cup blueberries, 1 mandarin, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies (32P, 68C, 3F) Meal 3 - 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 1 eggwhite, protein, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, 10 pists, fishies (32P, 49C, 8F) Meal 4 - Protein, brocolli stems, 2 TBS dressing, fishies (32P, 7F) Meal 5 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 2 slice ff cheese (30P, 10F) 157P, 117C, 31F WORKOUT: Bis & 30 mins cardio, ouch! Lega still kinda sore Last edited by Jill : 12-09-2003 at 08:54 PM.

12-08-2003, 12:13 PM	#201
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	What is your Dressing? Ingredients? Macros?
	Essence EFA

12-08-2003, 05:08 PM	#202
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Kraft light Italian dressing. I use 2 TBS= 1.6C, 0.8F. I dont ever count them in my totals causethe numbers are so small! Have you eaten brocolli stems yet Jodi? Last edited by Jill : 12-08-2003 at 06:20 PM.

12-08-2003, 06:57 PM	#203
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Can I eat someting like this tomorrow Jodi? Its a high carb day. 250 g Fat-Free Cottage Cheese(or low fat) 4 Tbls splenda 1 cup fresh strawberries of sf jam whites of 2 eggs juice and grated rind of ½ lemon METHOD: Chop the strawberries in small pieces and place in a bowl. Cover with 1 Tbls splenda and leave in refrigerator for ½ hour. Mix 2 Tbls splenda, Cottage Cheese in a bowl and add chopped strawberries. Beat the egg whites with 1 Tbls splenda to stiff creamy texture and fold into the strawberry and cheese mixture. Spoon into glass desert bowls and decorate with whole strawberries.

12-08-2003, 08:41 PM	#206
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	So I can eat light cream cheese? You look real perrrty in your new pic! Ive tried to put mine on their but is says my pic is too big?

12-08-2003, 08:56 PM	#207
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	No you can't have cream cheese? Where did you get that idea? Thanks You just have to shrink it down to 75x75 pixels. Email it to me if you want and I can do it for you
	Essence EFA

12-09-2003, 11:04 AM	#209
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Tuesday, December 9 - HIGH CARB DAY Meal 1 - PRE-WORKOUT: Detour bar , 1 cup fiber 1, milk (31P, 85C , 10F) Meal 2 - POST-WORKOUT: 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, protein, 1 egg white, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies (31P, 55C, 3F) Meal 3 - 3/4 cup oats, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, protein, 1 egg white, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies (31P, 55C, 3F) Meal 4 - Protein, spinach, 2 TBS dressing, fishies (31P, 3F) Meal 5 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 1 slice ham, 1 slice ff cheese, onions, gren peppers (32P, 8.5F) 156P, 195C, 27.5F WORKOUT: Back & 25 mins cardio Last edited by Jill : 12-09-2003 at 10:06 PM.