Taking Control

**IainDaniel** · 12-11-2003, 11:54 AM

Good Stuff, I haven't been anywhere other than Scotland since my Honeymoon over two years ago.

Now that there is a bun in the oven, I won't be going away for a while. But I do get some good out of this!!! My first kid, starting to get a little excited.

Where you going?

Leslie · 12-11-2003, 12:13 PM

Congrats on your progress Jill

Don't worry about the scale, its the measuring tape numbers that mean the most

Jill · 12-12-2003, 01:54 PM

Friday, December 12 - HIGH CARB DAY

Meal 1 - Protein pancake, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies
(32P, 55C, 3F)
Meal 2 - 4 oz ext lean beef, 1 slice ff cheese
(30P, 12F)
few handfuls of popcorn-recieved a HUGE tin as an xmas gift. very small (about the size of 2 loonies), gingerbread cookie
Meal 3 - Preworkout: Protein Pancake, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies
(32P, 55C, 3F)
Meal 4 - Postworkout: Protein Pancake, 1/4 cup bluberries, 2 TBS sf suryp.
(32P, 55C)
**some nuts**
Meal 5 - Taboli salad...so good! 4 oz lean beef, 1 slice ff cheese
(32P, mini amount of carbs, 12F)

All pancaked out....TILL TOMORROW!

58P, 165C, ??F

WORKOUT:

25 mins cardio THEN legs!

**Jodi** · 12-12-2003, 02:10 PM

The little print isn't gonna make me miss it

Skip the cardio. If you can do cardio after your leg workout then you obviously didn't lift heavy enough

jstar · 12-12-2003, 04:48 PM

Jill, Looking good! Congrats on your progress. Thanks again for what you said in my journal. Have fun at your Christmas party tomorrow

Leslie · 12-12-2003, 08:16 PM

Tin popcorn is the BEST

Shaddup Jodi

**Jodi** · 12-12-2003, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie
Tin popcorn is the BEST

Shaddup Jodi

Fuck you Leslie

Tin Popcorn is NASTY!!

Stale popcorn

Leslie · 12-12-2003, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jodi
Fuck you Leslie

One of the reasons why I love ya so much

**Jodi** · 12-12-2003, 08:35 PM

I love you too.

Jill · 12-12-2003, 09:02 PM

You girls are funny!

The popcorn is made by a company called kernals. It was candied popcorn and plain. I could eat the whole tin, thats why I put it away. The little print is funny eh?

Jill · 12-13-2003, 04:26 PM

Saturday, December 13 - ??

Meals: Popcorn. Ive eaten so much of the shit today Im hiding....

No meals, some protein pancakes for brecky and fish for lunch, the rest of the day has been popcorn. Xmas party for dinner. Not a good day.

**Jodi** · 12-13-2003, 06:54 PM

Then you better have 2 no carb days in a row miss

I'm not kidding either

Jill · 12-14-2003, 11:59 AM

Sunday, December 14 - NO CARB DAY

Meal 1 - Protein, fishies
(32P, 3F)
Meal 2 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 1 slice ff ham, 1 slice cheese, green peppers, onions, fishies
(31P, 10.5F)
Meal 3 - 1 can albacore, 2 TBS mayo, spinach
(30P, 10F)
Meal 4 - 5 oz turkey breast, salad w/ lemon juice,
(40P)
Meal 5 - 1/2 cup cottage cheese, protein, little fiber one, tbs sf jam
(32P, ?C)

Added a little carbs to my last meal. Im feeling so weak. No energy. So drained. Have never felt this way before. I think it was because I was crazy busy all day at work, and the no carbs combined.

WORKOUT:

Shoulders, 40 mins cardio-had to make up for the crapy day I had yesterday.

Did I forget to mention above I ate turkey, stuffing, gravy, a bun with butter, and roasted potatoes?

**Jodi** · 12-14-2003, 12:48 PM

Well the 2 no carb days will help fix it

Jill · 12-14-2003, 01:40 PM

Maybe...

**Jodi** · 12-14-2003, 01:56 PM

What's that suppose to mean?

**IainDaniel** · 12-15-2003, 02:36 PM

How was the Christmas Party?

Jill · 12-15-2003, 10:18 PM

Monday, December 15 - LOW CARB DAY

Meal 1 - 1/2 cup cottage cheese, protein, 1 TBS fiber one, 1 TBS sf jam
(32P, 13C)
Meal 2 - Protein pancake, 1/2 cup mixed berries, 2TBS sf suryp
(32P, 53C)
Meal 3 - Protein, fishies
(31P, 3F)
Meal 4 - Homemade chili, cheese, brocoli stems
???
Meal 5 - 4 oz turkey breast, mustard, cheese
(34P, ?F)

WORKOUT:

Bis & 30 mins cardio. My bis are killing me, intense workout.

Jill · 12-15-2003, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by IainDaniel
How was the Christmas Party?

Great! Food was yummy too!

**IainDaniel** · 12-16-2003, 07:21 AM

What happened to the 2 no carb days?

naturaltan · 12-16-2003, 12:49 PM

Hey Jill, thought you might be intested in this:
http://www.jennyh.com/phatcamp_calgary.html

Jill · 12-16-2003, 04:40 PM

Tuesday, December 16 - HIGH CARB DAY

Meal 1 - POST WORKOUT: Protein Pancake, 1/2 cup berries, 2 TBS sf suryp
(32P, 58C)
Meal 2 - PRE WORKOUT: 1 WW pita, 4 oz turkey breast, celery, 1 slice ff cheese, 2 TBS mayo
(34P, ??C, 10F)
Meal 3 - Protein Pancake, 1/2 cup berries, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies
(32P, 58C, 3F)
Meal 4 - Protein, sunflower seeds, few nuts
(32P, ?F)
Meal 5 -

WORKOUT:

Back & abs, 20 mins cardio

Jill · 12-16-2003, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by naturaltan
Hey Jill, thought you might be intested in this:
http://www.jennyh.com/phatcamp_calgary.html

Thanks NT!

Jill · 12-16-2003, 05:04 PM

Sorry Jodi

. It was a very tiny piece of chocolate. All your help is much appreciated, I understand that you are unhappy with my choices. Please forgive me.

In 2 weeks my diet is going to me majorly screwed when I go on vacation. Please be happy too! You seem really angry..... When are you moving??

jstar · 12-16-2003, 08:59 PM

Hey Jill!
how long is the vacation for? are you going to still do the high,low,no thing when you get back? hope you liked your popcorn

**Jodi** · 12-16-2003, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
Sorry Jodi

. It was a very tiny piece of chocolate. All your help is much appreciated, I understand that you are unhappy with my choices. Please forgive me.

In 2 weeks my diet is going to me majorly screwed when I go on vacation. Please be happy too! You seem really angry..... When are you moving??

I'm not mad and you have nothing to be sorry for. Its your body and you know the consequences.

Here is something I want you to do and maybe you will understand why I kick your ass so hard. You said a month ago you were going to work your hardest to be ready for your vacation. You were going to cut back on the cardio and try 2 weeks clean (still yet to see). I'm only trying to help you reach your goal Anyway, here is what I want you to do. I want to you start at the beginning of your journal and count how many times you've cheated and count how many days you've been doing this. The subtract your cheat days from your good days. Let me know what you get. I've already done this so I know the answer.

Now I know you made some good progress in the last few weeks but just think how much better you could have been by vacation without all those cheat days.

Jill · 12-17-2003, 08:56 AM

[size=1]Morning. Jodi-I stopped counting after the first 3 pages....

I do know where you are coming from. These last few month of trying to gain control have been extremely tough for me. This is probably the cleanest time of eating in several years. I guess that why i named my journal taking control, cause that is my main goal-to take control of my eating habits-clean or not, and binges. I've just been taking this one day at a time. I do understand your frustration, cause I have have gotten frustrated at myself numerous times. I do admire your discipline. I thank you for everything. Please continue to come to my journal, I have learnt so much from you. God I'm almost crying-I have some other shit to deal with right now, and am not so happy. Once again, Im dealing with this one day at a time.

**Jodi** · 12-17-2003, 09:09 AM

Jill, relax, its ok. I'm not frustrated at you or Iain or anyone else. I'm stressed and going through a very difficult time right now. My post to you has nothing to do with me. It was just to give you an idea of what I've been trying to say. See, I know too well the setbacks in dieting. You start making progress, then you fall off the bandwagon for a few days because you think to yourself, "Ah, I've done good, I've made improvements. This popcorn or chocolate won't hurt"

Then you do it again a few days later and then a few days later thus making your total calories for the week at or above maintenance instead of in a deficit.

I don't want to upset you. I want you to Take Control and set goals. I didn't get my discipline overnight night. Trust me, my friend Leah use to yell at me too. Its taken time but I've just learned to schedule my cheats now and set mini goals. You can't expect to be perfect all the time but making a TRUE and REAL effort is needed on your part. I'm here to help and support you.

Jill · 12-17-2003, 09:16 AM

to ya Jodi. You really have been

12-11-2003, 11:54 AM	#241
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,612	Good Stuff, I haven't been anywhere other than Scotland since my Honeymoon over two years ago. Now that there is a bun in the oven, I won't be going away for a while. But I do get some good out of this!!! My first kid, starting to get a little excited. Where you going?
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

12-11-2003, 12:13 PM	#242
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Congrats on your progress Jill Don't worry about the scale, its the measuring tape numbers that mean the most
	Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

12-12-2003, 01:54 PM	#243
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Friday, December 12 - HIGH CARB DAY Meal 1 - Protein pancake, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies (32P, 55C, 3F) Meal 2 - 4 oz ext lean beef, 1 slice ff cheese (30P, 12F) few handfuls of popcorn-recieved a HUGE tin as an xmas gift. very small (about the size of 2 loonies), gingerbread cookie Meal 3 - Preworkout: Protein Pancake, 1/4 cup blueberries, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies (32P, 55C, 3F) Meal 4 - Postworkout: Protein Pancake, 1/4 cup bluberries, 2 TBS sf suryp. (32P, 55C) some nuts Meal 5 - Taboli salad...so good! 4 oz lean beef, 1 slice ff cheese (32P, mini amount of carbs, 12F) All pancaked out....TILL TOMORROW! 58P, 165C, ??F WORKOUT: 25 mins cardio THEN legs! Last edited by Jill : 12-12-2003 at 09:07 PM.

12-12-2003, 02:10 PM	#244
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	The little print isn't gonna make me miss it Skip the cardio. If you can do cardio after your leg workout then you obviously didn't lift heavy enough
	Essence EFA

12-12-2003, 08:16 PM	#246
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Tin popcorn is the BEST Shaddup Jodi
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12-12-2003, 04:48 PM	#245
jstar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1,332 Photos: 5	Jill, Looking good! Congrats on your progress. Thanks again for what you said in my journal. Have fun at your Christmas party tomorrow

12-12-2003, 08:35 PM	#249
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	I love you too.
	Essence EFA

12-12-2003, 09:02 PM	#250
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	You girls are funny! The popcorn is made by a company called kernals. It was candied popcorn and plain. I could eat the whole tin, thats why I put it away. The little print is funny eh?

12-13-2003, 04:26 PM	#251
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Saturday, December 13 - ?? Meals: Popcorn. Ive eaten so much of the shit today Im hiding.... No meals, some protein pancakes for brecky and fish for lunch, the rest of the day has been popcorn. Xmas party for dinner. Not a good day.

12-13-2003, 06:54 PM	#252
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Then you better have 2 no carb days in a row miss I'm not kidding either
	Essence EFA

12-14-2003, 11:59 AM	#253
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Sunday, December 14 - NO CARB DAY Meal 1 - Protein, fishies (32P, 3F) Meal 2 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 1 slice ff ham, 1 slice cheese, green peppers, onions, fishies (31P, 10.5F) Meal 3 - 1 can albacore, 2 TBS mayo, spinach (30P, 10F) Meal 4 - 5 oz turkey breast, salad w/ lemon juice, (40P) Meal 5 - 1/2 cup cottage cheese, protein, little fiber one, tbs sf jam (32P, ?C) Added a little carbs to my last meal. Im feeling so weak. No energy. So drained. Have never felt this way before. I think it was because I was crazy busy all day at work, and the no carbs combined. WORKOUT: Shoulders, 40 mins cardio-had to make up for the crapy day I had yesterday. Did I forget to mention above I ate turkey, stuffing, gravy, a bun with butter, and roasted potatoes? Last edited by Jill : 12-14-2003 at 09:19 PM.

12-14-2003, 12:48 PM	#254
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Well the 2 no carb days will help fix it
	Essence EFA

12-14-2003, 01:40 PM	#255
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Maybe...

12-14-2003, 01:56 PM	#256
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	What's that suppose to mean?
	Essence EFA

12-15-2003, 02:36 PM	#257
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,612	How was the Christmas Party?
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

12-15-2003, 10:18 PM	#258
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Monday, December 15 - LOW CARB DAY Meal 1 - 1/2 cup cottage cheese, protein, 1 TBS fiber one, 1 TBS sf jam (32P, 13C) Meal 2 - Protein pancake, 1/2 cup mixed berries, 2TBS sf suryp (32P, 53C) Meal 3 - Protein, fishies (31P, 3F) Meal 4 - Homemade chili, cheese, brocoli stems ??? Meal 5 - 4 oz turkey breast, mustard, cheese (34P, ?F) WORKOUT: Bis & 30 mins cardio. My bis are killing me, intense workout.

12-16-2003, 07:21 AM	#260
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,612	What happened to the 2 no carb days?
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

12-16-2003, 12:49 PM	#261
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,927 Photos: 7	Hey Jill, thought you might be intested in this: http://www.jennyh.com/phatcamp_calgary.html
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

12-16-2003, 04:40 PM	#262
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Tuesday, December 16 - HIGH CARB DAY Meal 1 - POST WORKOUT: Protein Pancake, 1/2 cup berries, 2 TBS sf suryp (32P, 58C) Meal 2 - PRE WORKOUT: 1 WW pita, 4 oz turkey breast, celery, 1 slice ff cheese, 2 TBS mayo (34P, ??C, 10F) Meal 3 - Protein Pancake, 1/2 cup berries, 2 TBS sf suryp, fishies (32P, 58C, 3F) Meal 4 - Protein, sunflower seeds, few nuts (32P, ?F) Meal 5 - WORKOUT: Back & abs, 20 mins cardio Last edited by Jill : 12-16-2003 at 06:29 PM.

12-16-2003, 05:04 PM	#264
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Sorry Jodi . It was a very tiny piece of chocolate. All your help is much appreciated, I understand that you are unhappy with my choices. Please forgive me. In 2 weeks my diet is going to me majorly screwed when I go on vacation. Please be happy too! You seem really angry..... When are you moving??

12-16-2003, 08:59 PM	#265
jstar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1,332 Photos: 5	Hey Jill! how long is the vacation for? are you going to still do the high,low,no thing when you get back? hope you liked your popcorn

12-17-2003, 08:56 AM	#267
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	[size=1]Morning. Jodi-I stopped counting after the first 3 pages.... I do know where you are coming from. These last few month of trying to gain control have been extremely tough for me. This is probably the cleanest time of eating in several years. I guess that why i named my journal taking control, cause that is my main goal-to take control of my eating habits-clean or not, and binges. I've just been taking this one day at a time. I do understand your frustration, cause I have have gotten frustrated at myself numerous times. I do admire your discipline. I thank you for everything. Please continue to come to my journal, I have learnt so much from you. God I'm almost crying-I have some other shit to deal with right now, and am not so happy. Once again, Im dealing with this one day at a time.

12-17-2003, 09:09 AM	#268
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Jill, relax, its ok. I'm not frustrated at you or Iain or anyone else. I'm stressed and going through a very difficult time right now. My post to you has nothing to do with me. It was just to give you an idea of what I've been trying to say. See, I know too well the setbacks in dieting. You start making progress, then you fall off the bandwagon for a few days because you think to yourself, "Ah, I've done good, I've made improvements. This popcorn or chocolate won't hurt" Then you do it again a few days later and then a few days later thus making your total calories for the week at or above maintenance instead of in a deficit. I don't want to upset you. I want you to Take Control and set goals. I didn't get my discipline overnight night. Trust me, my friend Leah use to yell at me too. Its taken time but I've just learned to schedule my cheats now and set mini goals. You can't expect to be perfect all the time but making a TRUE and REAL effort is needed on your part. I'm here to help and support you.
	Essence EFA

12-17-2003, 09:16 AM	#269
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	to ya Jodi. You really have been