Leslie's Journal

hardasnails1973 · 11-19-2003, 08:21 AM

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/coconut.html

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa23.htm

Hope this helps

**dg806** · 11-19-2003, 02:20 PM

Just when you were looking good, you want to loose size?? What gives Les? And your unemployeed? Sorry to hear that.

Leslie · 11-19-2003, 04:24 PM

HAN~ Thanks for the links

DG~ I want to tone it down. Wanting more of a lean, slender look as opposed to a harder, bigger muscular look. Why the concern? Geez you people dug me in my fat pink bikini pics- if that went over well, then I think a more slender me would prove to be fine too

As for unemployment situation, yea it sucks. But my dog is happy and I have a great guy who is able to support me and our doggie while I figure out what I want to do

:

Leslie · 11-19-2003, 04:27 PM

I worked out this afternoon instead of evening since my fiance' is taking the night off from the gym

So far meals are skimpy, not on purpose. Also my coconut oil has yet to arrive.

Meal 1
2 eggs, 4 whites

ICE
PWO
2 Airheads

Meal 2
2 scoops Powder
5 fish oil caps

Meal 3
ONE HOUR REFEED
Pasta
1 piece crumb cake
couple chocolate chip cookies
Cheese/Caramel Tin Popcon

**I was STUFFED and passed out for 1.5 hours

Woke up sweating my ass off.

Meal 4
Chicken
1 tbsp Flax

Meal 5
Chicken
1 tbsp Flax

Forgot my pencil in the gym today.
LEGS day 1
Squats 4 sets
Leg Ext 3 sets
Leg Curls 4 sets
Seated Calf 3 sets

Rocco32 · 11-19-2003, 04:30 PM

Hows the vendetta working for you? Thinking of picking up some.

**calalily1972** · 11-19-2003, 04:33 PM

When did you get Vendetta? I thought you got ICE?

Leslie · 11-19-2003, 04:42 PM

Oops

Sorry, I edited. Jodi you are right, I am using ICE.
I was reading up on Vendetta and it must have stuck in my mind as I was typing

SOunds like really good stuff though.

Rock~ TP has used Vendetta for a long time. Perhaps he can tell you about it

Rocco32 · 11-19-2003, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie
Oops

Sorry, I edited. Jodi you are right, I am using ICE.
I was reading up on Vendetta and it must have stuck in my mind as I was typing

SOunds like really good stuff though.

Rock~ TP has used Vendetta for a long time. Perhaps he can tell you about it

No prob! I'll ask TP

Jill · 11-19-2003, 05:57 PM

Do you mean 'airheads', the taffy candy?? I wish!!!

**dg806** · 11-19-2003, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie
HAN~ Thanks for the links

DG~ I want to tone it down. Wanting more of a lean, slender look as opposed to a harder, bigger muscular look. Why the concern?

If that is what you want fine and dandy!! I just like the muscular look better! Just wondered!

Leslie · 11-19-2003, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
Do you mean 'airheads', the taffy candy?? I wish!!!

Yes I do

You should look at my refeed edit

naturaltan · 11-20-2003, 09:29 AM

Vendetta/ICE, what are these products for Leslie?

Jill · 11-20-2003, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie
Yes I do

You should look at my refeed edit

I wish I could re-feed!

Everything looks good and tasty!

Caramel popcorn, ummmm. But where is the cookie dough?

Leslie · 11-20-2003, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
But where is the cookie dough?

That was while I put the cookies on the tray for baking

Jill · 11-20-2003, 09:25 PM

Leslie · 11-20-2003, 09:49 PM

Todays Meals:

Meal 1
2 eggs, 4 whites
coffee with heavy cream

Meal 2
Steak
1 tsp PB

Meal 3
Chicken
1 tbsp Flax

Meal 4
1.5 scoops Powder
1 tbsp PB

Meal 5
Cottage cheese
Cinnamon
*If I get to the store
6 fish oils

No workout tonight as my body is TREMNDOUSLY sore from this breakin week and I am going on 3 hours of sleep.

*Started ECA

**dg806** · 11-21-2003, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie

*Started ECA

What kind??

Leslie · 11-21-2003, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dg806
What kind??

Vasopro from 1fast400.com

I havent taken ECA in over 2 years

I am starting verrry slow. 25mg per day for a while.

UPDATE: (you will like this

)
I am changing my workout split. No more high reps and such. I dunno what I was thinking

Dante has really helped me and worked out a new split for me:

Day 1 will be push (ing movements), with Day 2 being pull (ing movements).
[4 reps for those parts I'm trying to reduce, and 8 for those I'm trying to maintain or improve.(BACK)]:

Day 1A (push)
Chest: 2 exercises, 4-6 sets total
Quads: 2 exercises, 6 sets total
Calves: 2 exercises, 6 sets total
Shoulders: 2 exercises, 4-6 sets total.
Triceps: 2 exercises, 4-6 sets total

Day 2A (pull)
Back: 2 exercises, 6 sets total
Hamstrings: 2 exercises, 6 sets total
Biceps: 2 exercises, 4-6 sets total
Abs: 2 exercises, heavy and low reps (4 is good).

Off

Day 1B
Same thing as Day 1A, just pick two different exercises

Day 2B
Same thing as Day 2B, just pick two different exercises.

Off

Repeat

Thanks again Dante

hardasnails1973 · 11-23-2003, 03:33 PM

add 2-5 grams Glutemine or BCAAS at each meal. This will prevent you from going into gluconeogensis and using protein as fuel and this not what you want to do. BCAAS are esential on this type of diet for sparing leanbody mass. People know to train heavy coming into contest time (you should know know better my dear) Bigger muscle means more caloires burned while at rest. hope this helps

J'Bo · 11-23-2003, 03:49 PM

isnt 25mg a day still quite a bit

when i was dieting i only took 8mg twice a day.

hardasnails1973 · 11-23-2003, 04:08 PM

split ECA to 12.5 mgs 2 times per day is a much better solution. secret to EC stack is to take smaller dosages through out the day time every 2-3 hours (similar to clen) add some green tea at 400 mgs along with stack and you will really be cooking plus 400 mgs is = to about 20 cups o tea in antioxident value NOT CAFFINE

Leslie · 11-23-2003, 05:24 PM

I am taking ICE during my workouts. It contains BcAA's and glut

25mg a dya is nothing. I was up to 75mg per day 2 years a go. I am slowly breaking in

HAN I never thought of splitting the ECA dose like that. Soemthing to think about.

nikegurl · 11-24-2003, 04:36 PM

Hey Leslie - Dante is also a fan of the 1/2 pill doseage on the vasapro. You can check it out here:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=23869 (homemade eca stack)

I'm in the same boat as you. It's been a long time since I've used any eca and I've started up again.

hardasnails1973 · 11-24-2003, 08:07 PM

The reason for splitting up ist keep the thermogenic effect going more constanty and to avoid crashes as well

Leslie · 11-26-2003, 11:51 AM

Time for updated measurements.
Was supposed to do them tommorow, but I could not wait anymore

I have been following the diet to a tee, just havent been posting. Form now on I will only post refeeds , measurements and any changes

My BW is down, measurements down as well. Its only been 9 days, but I can see a difference in my physique already and my pants are fitting nicely again.

November 18th..............................................November 26
BW 168............................................... ...........165.5
Chest~ 40"............................................... ......40"
Bicep ~
.Unflexed~ 11 3/4...........................................11 1/4
.Flexed ~13............................................... ......13
Waist ~27 1/4................................................. 27
Hip~
.top 36 1/2................................................. .....35 3/4
.butt 38................................................ ...........37 3/4
.Under 37 1/2................................................. .37
Thigh~ 22 1/4................................................. .22
Calf 15 1/2................................................. ......15 1/4

I would also like to add I have skipped all cardio this week

I am thinking since I am still making progress anyways, of only doing it once per week for now. Can you tell I despise cardio?

Jill · 11-26-2003, 03:08 PM

How do you feel taking you eca stack? I started 1 about a week ago. 25mg ephederine per capsule, Im up to 2X a day. I will up that to 50mg 2x a day in about a week or so. Do you take days off from the stack?

Leslie · 11-26-2003, 04:30 PM

I took 25mg for 7 days and now I am up to 50mgs as of yesterday. needless to say I didint fall alseep last night til 6am

No I dont take days off- you need to maintain the levels in your body. I will taper down after 45-60 days or so and give myself a break for a while to refresh my receptors.

Jill · 11-26-2003, 05:32 PM

I heard to cycle effederine so your body doesnt get used to it?

oaktownboy · 11-26-2003, 06:28 PM

wow i just read this...Les ur unemed?sorry to hear that..what to do you plan on doing?

Leslie · 11-26-2003, 07:20 PM

Jill~ Some people go off for a week every two weeks, others stay on straight through. You have to find out how your own body responds

Oak~Thankfully my fiance' is the breadwinner in my house, so financially we are still doing ok. Meaning our lifestyles have not had to change much. I took some time and relaxed, caught up on things I have not had a chance to do ect.
As for what am I planning on doing now...well um I am trying to get a job

11-19-2003, 08:21 AM	#31
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,744	http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/coconut.html http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa23.htm Hope this helps EDIT: You need to place a link on your website to IronMagazine.com if you want to put a link in your sig.

11-19-2003, 02:20 PM	#32
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 18,197	Just when you were looking good, you want to loose size?? What gives Les? And your unemployeed? Sorry to hear that. 1-Andro Rx Pro-hormone

11-19-2003, 04:24 PM	#33
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	HAN~ Thanks for the links DG~ I want to tone it down. Wanting more of a lean, slender look as opposed to a harder, bigger muscular look. Why the concern? Geez you people dug me in my fat pink bikini pics- if that went over well, then I think a more slender me would prove to be fine too As for unemployment situation, yea it sucks. But my dog is happy and I have a great guy who is able to support me and our doggie while I figure out what I want to do: Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

11-19-2003, 04:27 PM	#34
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	I worked out this afternoon instead of evening since my fiance' is taking the night off from the gym So far meals are skimpy, not on purpose. Also my coconut oil has yet to arrive. Meal 1 2 eggs, 4 whites ICE PWO 2 Airheads Meal 2 2 scoops Powder 5 fish oil caps Meal 3 ONE HOUR REFEED Pasta 1 piece crumb cake couple chocolate chip cookies Cheese/Caramel Tin Popcon I was STUFFED and passed out for 1.5 hours Woke up sweating my ass off. Meal 4 Chicken 1 tbsp Flax Meal 5 Chicken 1 tbsp Flax Forgot my pencil in the gym today. LEGS day 1 Squats 4 sets Leg Ext 3 sets Leg Curls 4 sets Seated Calf 3 sets Leslie** My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com Last edited by Leslie : 11-19-2003 at 10:13 PM.

11-19-2003, 04:30 PM	#35
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,329 Photos: 18	Hows the vendetta working for you? Thinking of picking up some. I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

11-19-2003, 04:33 PM	#36
calalily1972 Moderator Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,438 Photos: 1	When did you get Vendetta? I thought you got ICE?

11-19-2003, 04:42 PM	#37
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Oops Sorry, I edited. Jodi you are right, I am using ICE. I was reading up on Vendetta and it must have stuck in my mind as I was typing SOunds like really good stuff though. Rock~ TP has used Vendetta for a long time. Perhaps he can tell you about it Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

11-19-2003, 05:57 PM	#39
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Do you mean 'airheads', the taffy candy?? I wish!!!

11-20-2003, 09:29 AM	#42
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,948 Photos: 7	Vendetta/ICE, what are these products for Leslie? just kick'in it in the ole Charger

11-20-2003, 09:25 PM	#45
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861

11-20-2003, 09:49 PM	#46
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Todays Meals: Meal 1 2 eggs, 4 whites coffee with heavy cream Meal 2 Steak 1 tsp PB Meal 3 Chicken 1 tbsp Flax Meal 4 1.5 scoops Powder 1 tbsp PB Meal 5 Cottage cheese Cinnamon If I get to the store 6 fish oils No workout tonight as my body is TREMNDOUSLY sore from this breakin week and I am going on 3 hours of sleep. Started ECA Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

11-23-2003, 03:33 PM	#49
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,744	add 2-5 grams Glutemine or BCAAS at each meal. This will prevent you from going into gluconeogensis and using protein as fuel and this not what you want to do. BCAAS are esential on this type of diet for sparing leanbody mass. People know to train heavy coming into contest time (you should know know better my dear) Bigger muscle means more caloires burned while at rest. hope this helps EDIT: You need to place a link on your website to IronMagazine.com if you want to put a link in your sig.

11-23-2003, 03:49 PM	#50
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	isnt 25mg a day still quite a bit when i was dieting i only took 8mg twice a day. ....and thats my $.02

11-23-2003, 04:08 PM	#51
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,744	split ECA to 12.5 mgs 2 times per day is a much better solution. secret to EC stack is to take smaller dosages through out the day time every 2-3 hours (similar to clen) add some green tea at 400 mgs along with stack and you will really be cooking plus 400 mgs is = to about 20 cups o tea in antioxident value NOT CAFFINE EDIT: You need to place a link on your website to IronMagazine.com if you want to put a link in your sig.

11-23-2003, 05:24 PM	#52
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	I am taking ICE during my workouts. It contains BcAA's and glut 25mg a dya is nothing. I was up to 75mg per day 2 years a go. I am slowly breaking in HAN I never thought of splitting the ECA dose like that. Soemthing to think about. Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

11-24-2003, 04:36 PM	#53
nikegurl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LA, CA Posts: 5,641	Hey Leslie - Dante is also a fan of the 1/2 pill doseage on the vasapro. You can check it out here: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=23869 (homemade eca stack) I'm in the same boat as you. It's been a long time since I've used any eca and I've started up again. If you want to achieve things that others can't... You have to do things that others won't.

11-24-2003, 08:07 PM	#54
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,744	The reason for splitting up ist keep the thermogenic effect going more constanty and to avoid crashes as well EDIT: You need to place a link on your website to IronMagazine.com if you want to put a link in your sig.

11-26-2003, 11:51 AM	#55
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Time for updated measurements. Was supposed to do them tommorow, but I could not wait anymoreI have been following the diet to a tee, just havent been posting. Form now on I will only post refeeds , measurements and any changes My BW is down, measurements down as well. Its only been 9 days, but I can see a difference in my physique already and my pants are fitting nicely again. November 18th..............................................November 26 BW 168............................................... ...........165.5 Chest~ 40"............................................... ......40" Bicep ~ .Unflexed~ 11 3/4...........................................11 1/4 .Flexed ~13............................................... ......13 Waist ~27 1/4................................................. 27 Hip~ .top 36 1/2................................................. .....35 3/4 .butt 38................................................ ...........37 3/4 .Under 37 1/2................................................. .37 Thigh~ 22 1/4................................................. .22 Calf 15 1/2................................................. ......15 1/4 I would also like to add I have skipped all cardio this week I am thinking since I am still making progress anyways, of only doing it once per week for now. Can you tell I despise cardio? Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com Last edited by Leslie : 11-26-2003 at 12:38 PM.

11-26-2003, 03:08 PM	#56
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	How do you feel taking you eca stack? I started 1 about a week ago. 25mg ephederine per capsule, Im up to 2X a day. I will up that to 50mg 2x a day in about a week or so. Do you take days off from the stack?

11-26-2003, 04:30 PM	#57
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	I took 25mg for 7 days and now I am up to 50mgs as of yesterday. needless to say I didint fall alseep last night til 6am No I dont take days off- you need to maintain the levels in your body. I will taper down after 45-60 days or so and give myself a break for a while to refresh my receptors. Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

11-26-2003, 05:32 PM	#58
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	I heard to cycle effederine so your body doesnt get used to it?

11-26-2003, 06:28 PM	#59
oaktownboy Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: smog and fog Posts: 4,428	wow i just read this...Les ur unemed?sorry to hear that..what to do you plan on doing? Chuck Norris once lost his keys and couldn't remember where he put them. So he tortured himself for half an hour until he gave up their location.

11-26-2003, 07:20 PM	#60
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Jill~ Some people go off for a week every two weeks, others stay on straight through. You have to find out how your own body responds Oak~Thankfully my fiance' is the breadwinner in my house, so financially we are still doing ok. Meaning our lifestyles have not had to change much. I took some time and relaxed, caught up on things I have not had a chance to do ect. As for what am I planning on doing now...well um I am trying to get a job Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

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