Third try's the charm.

atherjen · 01-23-2004, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
Meals for 1/22: High carb day

Meal 1: 6.5oz chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa
Meal 2: apple, 6.5oz chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa
Meal 3: apple, 6.5oz chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa
Meal 4: apple, 6.5oz chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa
Meal 5: 60g whey, 1 T. natty PB
Meal 6: 60g whey, 1 T. natty PB

Totals:
Cals - 3526
Fat - 61
Carbs - 332
Protein - 397

Where for art thou, fiber?

looks good.. I see you like salsa as much as I do!

GOT VEGGIES????

oh and broccoli smoothies sound disgusting but if it will get veggies in you then drink up!

Monolith · 01-23-2004, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by atherjen
looks good.. I see you like salsa as much as I do!

GOT VEGGIES????

oh and broccoli smoothies sound disgusting but if it will get veggies in you then drink up!

Yeah... salsa =

Ive been thinking of just eating a couple jars of salsa for a carb meal.

And im gonna try a broccoli smoothie today... i figure if i blend it while its frozen, itd be just like blending up some ice cubes. Maybe add some water, and im set.

I'll report back later.

Hammerlynn · 01-23-2004, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
Yeah... salsa =

Ive been thinking of just eating a couple jars of salsa for a carb meal.

I've created a monster

Actually the blended broc may not be so bad...add an apple for some sweetness. Some people go wacko about veggie drinks!

Monolith · 01-23-2004, 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by Hammerlynn
I've created a monster

Actually the blended broc may not be so bad...add an apple for some sweetness. Some people go wacko about veggie drinks!

haha, yeah, the salsa was definitely a good idea.

and that apple idea is pretty good, actually... would fit in nicely with the CC diet, too.

i never had a chance to try my "broccoli blend" today, but ill do it tomorrow.

Monolith · 01-24-2004, 12:57 AM

Meals for 1/23: Low carb day

Meal 1: apple, 7oz chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa
Meal 2: apple, 7oz chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa
Meal 3: apple, 60g whey, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa
Meal 4: 6.5oz chicken, 1 T. natty PB
Meal 5: 60g whey, 1 T. natty PB
Meal 6: 60g whey

Totals:
Cals - 3257
Fat - 60
Carbs - 267
Protein - 407

atherjen · 01-24-2004, 04:56 AM

diet looks great! altho move some fats to that last meal with that shake.!

yuck.. your not really going to try that broccoli shake idea are you? :ekk:

Monolith · 01-24-2004, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by atherjen
diet looks great! altho move some fats to that last meal with that shake.!

yuck.. your not really going to try that broccoli shake idea are you? :ekk:

yeah, i didnt time my meals right today. was gonna try to split up the natty PB meals, but they got smushed together. I did have some fish oil with the last meal, though.

And you bet im gonna try that broccoli shake! I mean, even if it doesnt taste that great... its a quick way to get my veggies in. And i dont have to cook them either (in fact, steaming them can leech out some of the vitamins anyway, right?). You just wait, my frozen broccoli slurry could be revolutionary.

atherjen · 01-24-2004, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
yeah, i didnt time my meals right today. was gonna try to split up the natty PB meals, but they got smushed together. I did have some fish oil with the last meal, though.

And you bet im gonna try that broccoli shake! I mean, even if it doesnt taste that great... its a quick way to get my veggies in. And i dont have to cook them either (in fact, steaming them can leech out some of the vitamins anyway, right?). You just wait, my frozen broccoli slurry could be revolutionary.

I think that Im going to be sick just thinking of it.... good luck with that new creation!

Monolith · 01-24-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by atherjen
I think that Im going to be sick just thinking of it.... good luck with that new creation!

LOL, i just tried it...

Grabbed a bag of broccoli out of the freezer. Plugged in my blender. Dumped in the broccoli and turned on the blender to setting 2. It wasnt blending very well, so i put it up to setting 5. Blended a little bit better... but was still just small icy chunks of broccoli. So i decided i should add some water. One cup of water later, all the broccoli was still in tiny chunks, but now plastered to the sides of the blender. Hmm... what do i do... add more water! Two more cups of water later, it was finally blending properly.

After letting it blend for about 5 minutes, i stopped and took the top off. It's the most vile green ive ever seen. It looked like green halloween slime. Anyway, i poured myself a cup, and took a gulp.

YECH.

It was awful. It was a bitter, tangy nastiness that i dont think ill soon forget. But me, being the genius chef that i am, decided i could fix it. How? By adding splenda, of course! So i dumped what was left in my cup back into the blender, and added 3 packets of splenda. I blended up the concoction s'more, and poured myself another glass. It was different this time - it had an almost evil quality. You taste the sweetness first, which causes you to take a bigger gulp... and THEN the bitterness/foulness hits, and makes you want to vomit. I think they could use this stuff as an interrogation method.

Anyway, i settled on steamed broccoli and some beef tenderloin for my dinner. The broccoli slurry got thrown down the drain.

atherjen · 01-24-2004, 07:32 PM

my gosh thats a wild and crazy story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YUCK I cant belived u even tried it. hahaha
glad you opted for the steamed broccoli instead!

Monolith · 01-24-2004, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by atherjen

my gosh thats a wild and crazy story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YUCK I cant belived u even tried it. hahaha
glad you opted for the steamed broccoli instead!

Yeah... but there MUST be an easy way to eat veggies. Steaming just takes too long. Plus theres all the dishes to clean.

Ill think of something.

Monolith · 01-25-2004, 12:03 AM

Meals for 1/24: No carb day

Meal 1: can of tuna, 2 T. light saff mayo, 20g whey
Meal 2: 7oz chicken
Meal 3: 4oz beef tenderloin, 20oz whey, 1 cup broccoli
Meal 4: 7oz chicken
Meal 5: 60g whey

Totals:
Cals - 1732
Fat - 49
Carbs - 14
Protein - 302

I didnt wake up until 2 in the afternoon today... and its 2 am now and im going to bed. So suffice to say my meals got messed up again.

**P-funk** · 01-25-2004, 06:59 AM

DO you not post your workouts anymore?? are you taking a break form lifting?

Monolith · 01-25-2004, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by P-funk
DO you not post your workouts anymore?? are you taking a break form lifting?

I never did post my w/o's... this was supposed to be more of a diet journal than a w/o journal.

TBH, my weights are rather embarrassing.

**P-funk** · 01-25-2004, 05:00 PM

yeah, but maybe others can make suggestions about your workouts that may help out your whole "recompositioning".

Don't worry about the weights you are lifting, strength is relative to the person. I am often embaressed to post the weight that I use as well.

Monolith · 01-25-2004, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by P-funk
yeah, but maybe others can make suggestions about your workouts that may help out your whole "recompositioning".

Don't worry about the weights you are lifting, strength is relative to the person. I am often embaressed to post the weight that I use as well.

Eh... alright. I'll start tomorrow. I've been using GP's P/RR/S routine, btw.

Monolith · 01-25-2004, 09:51 PM

Meals for 1/25: High carb day

Meal 1: 1.5 cups brown rice, 6oz chicken, 3 T. salsa
Meal 2: 1.5 cups brown rice, 6oz chicken, apple, 3 T. salsa
Meal 3: 1.5 cups brown rice, 6oz chicken, apple, 3 T. salsa
Meal 4: 1.5 cups brown rice, 6oz chicken, apple, 3 T. salsa
Meal 5: 60g whey, 1 T. natty PB

Totals:
Cals - 3107
Fat - 47
Carbs - 339
Protein - 317

Awful day. Cals were way too low for a high carb day... especially protein.

Classes start up again tomorrow. Here's to hoping my meals dont suffer.

Monolith · 01-26-2004, 05:23 PM

Ok... at Patrick's suggestion i'm gonna start posting my training logs here as well.

I've been following GP's routine for a while now... since mid October i think? Ive seen some slight gains... although i dont have much to compare it to, as ive only been training seriously since around this time last year. I've been going to the gym since i was 16, but i was doing mild machine circuit training and a lot of cardio. Took some time off from the gym (was travelling), and then started hittin the gym again. Been trying to learn as much as i can from the various boards.

So, that said, plz try not to laugh too much at my lifts.

Training for 1/26: Chest/Biceps (Rep Range)

Incline DB Press - 60lbx8 65lbx8 75lbx6 65lbx5 (one of the 70lb DB's was missing, kind of screwed the flow of my sets... aim was to get 3 sets in the 6-8 range)

Flat BB Bench - 165lbx9x6 135lbx10 (aim was to get 3 sets in the 8-10 range)

Flat Flys - 35lbx11 30lbx9 (aim was to get 2 sets in the 10-12 range)

-----

Alternating DB Curl - 40lbx8x5 (done sitting, bent slightly forward. aim was 2 sets in the 6-8 range)

Cable Curl - 110lbx9 100lbx7 (aim was 2 sets in the 8-10 range)

Concentration Curl - 20lbx10 15lbx12 (aim was 2 sets in the 10-12 range)

Anyway, thats it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The reason ive been doing GP's routine, is because i havent felt confident enough or knowledgable enough to create a routine specifically for myself. GP's routine has been great in giving me a good variation in my w/o, even if its rather generic.

**P-funk** · 01-26-2004, 06:45 PM

that is not bad weight at all!!! I don't know what you were so self concious about?

Monolith · 01-26-2004, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by P-funk
that is not bad weight at all!!! I don't know what you were so self concious about?

haha... well, everyone else here puts up huge numbers. I feel like its a struggle to keep ahead of Jodi.

Plus most of the lifters at my gym are massive. Guys doing 225 and 315 for reps. :/

**P-funk** · 01-26-2004, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
haha... well, everyone else here puts up huge numbers. I feel like its a struggle to keep ahead of Jodi.

Plus most of the lifters at my gym are massive. Guys doing 225 and 315 for reps. :/

Ah, 225 and 315 are nothin'. You should come and lift with some of my freinds

......that is when I really feel bad about my strength

Monolith · 01-26-2004, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by P-funk
Ah, 225 and 315 are nothin'. You should come and lift with some of my freinds

......that is when I really feel bad about my strength

haha... i think seeing them would motivate me to just quit.

Monolith · 01-26-2004, 07:35 PM

Meals for 1/26: Low Carb Day

Meal 1: apple, 4oz chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa, 20g whey
Meal 2: 60g whey
Meal 3: 60g whey
Meal 4: apple, can of tuna, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa, 20g whey
Meal 5: apple, 60g whey, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa
Meal 6: 60g whey, 1 T. natty PB

Totals:
Cals - 3076
Fats - 48
Carbs - 258
Protein - 409

Just to reiterate, i take 5g fish oil with any meals i dont otherwise add fat to. I dont include that fat in my totals. I also dont include any carbs from the apples. (Or fiber carbs, on the rare occassion i get some...)

Ran out of chicken again. Gonna hit the store tomorrow, dont have lab until 2pm.

atherjen · 01-26-2004, 07:41 PM

Looks great!

(other then I think its a bit too much whey.. go get some cluck-cluck) hehe

Monolith · 01-27-2004, 01:31 PM

Well, in response to this thread:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=26731 (How much of an effect does stress have on recovery/muscle gain?)

I've scheduled an appointment with my doctor. I've always been pretty depressed... and even little things always stress me out. Apparently both can lead to an increase in cortisol levels.

I'm thinking that this may be a factor in why gains have always come so slowly for me.

atherjen · 01-27-2004, 01:41 PM

smart decision hun! i hope that all goes well!

01-24-2004, 12:57 AM	#125
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Meals for 1/23: Low carb day Meal 1: apple, 7oz chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa Meal 2: apple, 7oz chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa Meal 3: apple, 60g whey, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa Meal 4: 6.5oz chicken, 1 T. natty PB Meal 5: 60g whey, 1 T. natty PB Meal 6: 60g whey Totals: Cals - 3257 Fat - 60 Carbs - 267 Protein - 407
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01-25-2004, 12:03 AM	#132
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Meals for 1/24: No carb day Meal 1: can of tuna, 2 T. light saff mayo, 20g whey Meal 2: 7oz chicken Meal 3: 4oz beef tenderloin, 20oz whey, 1 cup broccoli Meal 4: 7oz chicken Meal 5: 60g whey Totals: Cals - 1732 Fat - 49 Carbs - 14 Protein - 302 I didnt wake up until 2 in the afternoon today... and its 2 am now and im going to bed. So suffice to say my meals got messed up again.
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01-25-2004, 06:59 AM	#133
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,136	DO you not post your workouts anymore?? are you taking a break form lifting?
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

01-25-2004, 05:00 PM	#135
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,136	yeah, but maybe others can make suggestions about your workouts that may help out your whole "recompositioning". Don't worry about the weights you are lifting, strength is relative to the person. I am often embaressed to post the weight that I use as well.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

01-25-2004, 09:51 PM	#137
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Meals for 1/25: High carb day Meal 1: 1.5 cups brown rice, 6oz chicken, 3 T. salsa Meal 2: 1.5 cups brown rice, 6oz chicken, apple, 3 T. salsa Meal 3: 1.5 cups brown rice, 6oz chicken, apple, 3 T. salsa Meal 4: 1.5 cups brown rice, 6oz chicken, apple, 3 T. salsa Meal 5: 60g whey, 1 T. natty PB Totals: Cals - 3107 Fat - 47 Carbs - 339 Protein - 317 Awful day. Cals were way too low for a high carb day... especially protein. Classes start up again tomorrow. Here's to hoping my meals dont suffer.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

01-24-2004, 04:56 AM	#126
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	diet looks great! altho move some fats to that last meal with that shake.! yuck.. your not really going to try that broccoli shake idea are you? :ekk:

01-24-2004, 07:32 PM	#130
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	my gosh thats a wild and crazy story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YUCK I cant belived u even tried it. hahaha glad you opted for the steamed broccoli instead!

01-26-2004, 05:23 PM	#138
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Ok... at Patrick's suggestion i'm gonna start posting my training logs here as well. I've been following GP's routine for a while now... since mid October i think? Ive seen some slight gains... although i dont have much to compare it to, as ive only been training seriously since around this time last year. I've been going to the gym since i was 16, but i was doing mild machine circuit training and a lot of cardio. Took some time off from the gym (was travelling), and then started hittin the gym again. Been trying to learn as much as i can from the various boards. So, that said, plz try not to laugh too much at my lifts. Training for 1/26: Chest/Biceps (Rep Range) Incline DB Press - 60lbx8 65lbx8 75lbx6 65lbx5 (one of the 70lb DB's was missing, kind of screwed the flow of my sets... aim was to get 3 sets in the 6-8 range) Flat BB Bench - 165lbx9x6 135lbx10 (aim was to get 3 sets in the 8-10 range) Flat Flys - 35lbx11 30lbx9 (aim was to get 2 sets in the 10-12 range) ----- Alternating DB Curl - 40lbx8x5 (done sitting, bent slightly forward. aim was 2 sets in the 6-8 range) Cable Curl - 110lbx9 100lbx7 (aim was 2 sets in the 8-10 range) Concentration Curl - 20lbx10 15lbx12 (aim was 2 sets in the 10-12 range) Anyway, thats it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The reason ive been doing GP's routine, is because i havent felt confident enough or knowledgable enough to create a routine specifically for myself. GP's routine has been great in giving me a good variation in my w/o, even if its rather generic.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

01-26-2004, 06:45 PM	#139
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,136	that is not bad weight at all!!! I don't know what you were so self concious about?
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

01-26-2004, 07:35 PM	#143
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Meals for 1/26: Low Carb Day Meal 1: apple, 4oz chicken, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa, 20g whey Meal 2: 60g whey Meal 3: 60g whey Meal 4: apple, can of tuna, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa, 20g whey Meal 5: apple, 60g whey, 1.5 cups brown rice, 3 T. salsa Meal 6: 60g whey, 1 T. natty PB Totals: Cals - 3076 Fats - 48 Carbs - 258 Protein - 409 Just to reiterate, i take 5g fish oil with any meals i dont otherwise add fat to. I dont include that fat in my totals. I also dont include any carbs from the apples. (Or fiber carbs, on the rare occassion i get some...) Ran out of chicken again. Gonna hit the store tomorrow, dont have lab until 2pm.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

01-26-2004, 07:41 PM	#144
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	Looks great! (other then I think its a bit too much whey.. go get some cluck-cluck) hehe
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

01-27-2004, 01:31 PM	#145
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Well, in response to this thread: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...threadid=26731 (How much of an effect does stress have on recovery/muscle gain?) I've scheduled an appointment with my doctor. I've always been pretty depressed... and even little things always stress me out. Apparently both can lead to an increase in cortisol levels. I'm thinking that this may be a factor in why gains have always come so slowly for me.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

01-27-2004, 01:41 PM	#146
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	smart decision hun! i hope that all goes well!
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

01-27-2004, 11:52 PM	#147
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002