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Jill · 01-21-2004, 05:39 PM

Thanks Jodi and AJ! Will building strenght benefit me though? Also, Is it ok to add 2TBS lt cream (6F) with 1 or sometimes 2 P shakes a day? Way better mixed with water then skim milk-(the sugars.) I found a new protein flavored strawberry and banana and mixed it with 2 TBS lt cream and water and it was so yummy!

atherjen · 01-21-2004, 06:47 PM

Of course building strength will benefit you!! Think you'll be able to do more things for yourself in everyday life, lifting heavier things, etc. and not to mention it feel great to pump heavy iron in the gym!

strawbery and banana.. sounds good! Id only go with the cream in one of those shakes if you can. hmm try adding some natural peanut butter to one!

Jill · 01-21-2004, 06:48 PM

BTW, I made a mistake, the cream has 3G of fat for 2 TBS not 6! Ooops!

Jill · 01-21-2004, 06:52 PM

Wednesday, January 21 - HIGH CARB DAY

Meal 1 - Preworkout: Fiber one, Protein, 1/2 apple
Meal 2 - Postworkout: Protein Pancake, 1/2 apple, 1TBS sf jam, 2 fishies
Meal 3 - Protein, 2TBS lt cream, 2 fishies
Meal 4 - 5 oz extra lean beef mixed with about 1-2 TBS cottage cheese, approx TBS oats, steamed zuk, brocolli,
Meal 5 - Protein Pancake, 1 asian pear, 1 TBS sf jam
Meal 6 - 4 oz chicken breast, 3 baby pickles, few radishes, sf jello!

WORKOUT:

20 min warm up cardio, legs, little weak though!

atherjen · 01-21-2004, 07:04 PM

hmm if your leg workout was weak then cut back the warm up cardio to only 5 mins. 20 minutes would really take too much out of my leg workout.
diets not bad but still too much whey protein. try and get in more whole food choices

Jill · 01-21-2004, 07:09 PM

I think I was weak also cause I havent done legs in almost 3 weeks, the cardio may have contributed too. I dont usually do cardio on leg days. I did eat alot of whey today hey? Thats not usual for me. OH, my p pancakes only have about 15g of whey, the rest is cottage cheese and an egg white! You should try them.

Jill · 01-21-2004, 07:12 PM

Chocolate protein in water AJ?

atherjen · 01-21-2004, 07:29 PM

Ahhh ok, I wasnt sure how much whey was in your pancakes. Ive made prot pancakes before., YUMM!

OHH YES choc prot in water!!! crushed ice and water in the blender. dammnn good. its like a treat to me!

hehe

**IainDaniel** · 01-21-2004, 09:26 PM

Hey J,

Keep up the Good work!

20 min w/u cardio is a bit much. If you are going to do cardio when you lift weights save until after you are done weights.

Jill · 01-22-2004, 09:25 AM

Thursday, January 22 - NO CARB DAY

Meal 1 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 1 oz chicken breast, 1 slice lf cheese, 3 fishies
(35P, 10F)
Meal 2 - 4 oz chicken breast, steamed zuk, brocolli, cauli, 2 fishies
(34P, 2F)
Meal 4 - Protein, 2 fishies
(32P, 2F)
Meal 4 - 5 oz extra lean beef, spice, lotsa lettuce, low cal dressing
(35P, 15F)
Meal 5 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 2oz ham, 1 slice ff cheese, lotsa lettuce with low cal dressing, 1 TBS nat PB
(35P, 9F)

WORKOUT:

Bis and Tris. I hate these 2 body parts most! No cardio.

naturaltan · 01-22-2004, 09:36 AM

I must say the meals look fantastic!! Keep that up along with the workouts, and you'll be wearing those short shorts and skirts come summer! Good work Jill

Stacey · 01-22-2004, 10:04 AM

Jill--
WoW You are doing Fabulous sweetie!!!!
Keep up the great & hard work!!!!!

atherjen · 01-22-2004, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
Thursday, January 22 - NO CARB DAY

Meal 1 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 1 oz chicken breast, 1 slice lf cheese, 3 fishies
(35P, 10F)
Meal 2 - 4 oz chicken breast, steamed zuk, brocolli, cauli, 2 fishies
(34P, 2F)
Meal 4 - Protein, 2 fishies
(32P, 2F)
Meal 4 -
Meal 5 -

WORKOUT:

Think I'm gonna do bis and tris-I hate those 2 bodyparts the most! I might do 20-30 mins of cardio, but my legs are so damb sore from yesterday I can barely walk up my staris! Will update lader!

Im sore from quads/calves last nite too! isnt it great!

meals look GREAT so far today hun!

**Jodi** · 01-22-2004, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
Thursday, January 22 - NO CARB DAY

Meal 1 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 1 oz chicken breast, 1 slice lf cheese, 3 fishies
(35P, 10F)
Meal 2 - 4 oz chicken breast, steamed zuk, brocolli, cauli, 2 fishies
(34P, 2F)
Meal 4 - Protein, 2 fishies
(32P, 2F)
Meal 4 -
Meal 5 -

WORKOUT:

Think I'm gonna do bis and tris-I hate those 2 bodyparts the most! I might do 20-30 mins of cardio, but my legs are so damb sore from yesterday I can barely walk up my staris! Will update lader!

How bout the last 2 meals from yesterday?

naturaltan · 01-22-2004, 11:53 AM

any cheats since you've gone guns ablazin' at the meals and weights?

Jill · 01-22-2004, 08:05 PM

Stacey, you are a real doll! Jodi-Waiting for one more meal, then Ill update my post!-no carbs...uhhhhh

AJ, my hammies are so friggin sore Ive been walking like an idiot up/down the stairs in my house.

You should start a journal over here at IM! Oh, I tried cooking my chicken in a pan with pam and spices, it was supper yummy! And NT, Im proud cause I havent cheated, and dont plan to. I have been craving sweets and getting major headaches these last few days. Maybe its cause my body was used to sugar for 2-3 weeks straight. Who knows!

naturaltan · 01-22-2004, 09:10 PM

Excellent to hear. That vacation has seemed to turn you around 180 degrees. Keep it up and sooner than you think, the cravings won't be as often or as strong - just keep in mind that it does a body and mind good to have a cheat every now and then.

atherjen · 01-23-2004, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
Stacey, you are a real doll! Jodi-Waiting for one more meal, then Ill update my post!-no carbs...uhhhhh

AJ, my hammies are so friggin sore Ive been walking like an idiot up/down the stairs in my house.

You should start a journal over here at IM! Oh, I tried cooking my chicken in a pan with pam and spices, it was supper yummy! And NT, Im proud cause I havent cheated, and dont plan to. I have been craving sweets and getting major headaches these last few days. Maybe its cause my body was used to sugar for 2-3 weeks straight. Who knows!

I hear ya hun.. Im SOO sore today. did quads/calves 2 days ago and hams yestarday. wozzers.

glad you enjoy the chicken! see healthy food can be VERY enjoyable, just have to find the right ways to suit your tastebuds!

Im sure the headaches are just from the sugar withdrawl. they'lll surpass. but as NT said, if you slip up occasionally dont be hard on yourself, we are only human!

Jill · 01-23-2004, 11:02 AM

K-Just bought the best tasting protein Ive EVER had, for real! (AND Ive tried many different flavors and brands!) PVL Gourmet Whey in strawberry banana flavor. Mixed it with water, ice, 2TBS lt cream and it was soooooooo yummy! I cant wait to have another shake!

atherjen · 01-23-2004, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
K-Just bought the best tasting protein Ive EVER had, for real! (AND Ive tried many different flavors and brands!) PVL Gourmet Whey in strawberry banana flavor. Mixed it with water, ice, 2TBS lt cream and it was soooooooo yummy! I cant wait to have another shake!

sounds good!

take some fish oil caps or healthy fats with it, and try to only have 2/day!

**IainDaniel** · 01-23-2004, 12:09 PM

I have heard PVL is good.

I like optimum, but I don't really taste too much, I just down it.

Jill · 01-23-2004, 05:51 PM

Jodi, I need your help pretty pleeze! Here is my split. Not sure about how I wanna cycle my days.
24-REST-supposed to be high carb.?
25-Chest
26-Back
27-Legs
28-REST
29-Bis & Tris
30-Shoulders
31-REST
1-Chest
2-Back
3-Legs
4-Bis & Tris
5-Shoulders
6-REST
7-Chest

I did this so I could specifically pick my rest days, in relation to my work schedule-I work shift work. Any advice would be great. Even on a training split too. Thanks!

Jill · 01-23-2004, 06:36 PM

Friday, January 23 - LOW CARB DAY

Meal 1- Preworkout: Protein, 2 TBS 1/2 n' 1/2, 2 fishies
(32P, 5F)
Meal 2 - Postworkout: Protein Pancake, 1/4 blueberries, 1TBS sf jam
(32P, 56C)
Meal 3 - Protein Pancake, 1/4 blueberries, 1TBS sf jam, 2 fishies
(32P, 56C, 2F)
Meal 4- Protein, 2 TBS 1/2 n' 1/2, steamed broccoli & cauli, 2 fishies
(32P, 5F)
Meal 5 - 5 whites, 2 yolks, 1.5oz chicken breast, 1 slice lf cheese, lots lettuce, low cal dressing
(35P, 12F)

WORKOUT: Shoulders, 40 mins cardio

Starting to not crave sugar as much. Good sign

naturaltan · 01-23-2004, 06:39 PM

Jill, the missus says that this camp is really worthwhile. If you get a chance, you should try and go to one.

**Jodi** · 01-23-2004, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Meal 5 - 5 whites, 2 yolks, 1.5oz chicken breast, 1 slice lf cheese, lots lettuce, low cal dressing

This meals is a bit too high in fat

1 yolk would have been good

**Jodi** · 01-23-2004, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
Jodi, I need your help pretty pleeze! Here is my split. Not sure about how I wanna cycle my days.
24-REST-supposed to be high carb.? - No
25-Chest Low
26-Back No
27-Legs High
28-REST No
29-Bis & Tris Low
30-Shoulders High
31-REST No
1-Chest Low
2-Back High
3-Legs Low
4-Bis & Tris No
5-Shoulders Low
6-REST No
7-Chest High

That wasn't easy. Why in the world do you want to workout 5 days in a row? That is too taxing on the body and would suggest otherwise

I did this so I could specifically pick my rest days, in relation to my work schedule-I work shift work. Any advice would be great. Even on a training split too. Thanks!

Jill · 01-24-2004, 07:15 AM

Thanks so much Jodi! I MAY not workout 5 day is a row there, its just a temp plan. You are the greatest!!!!!!!!!

**Jodi** · 01-24-2004, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jill
Thanks so much Jodi! I MAY not workout 5 day is a row there, its just a temp plan. You are the greatest!!!!!!!!!

I hope you do change your mind. Without proper rest or days off your workouts will suck.

Jill · 01-24-2004, 09:34 AM

Any tips on my split at all Jodi?

01-21-2004, 05:39 PM	#31
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Thanks Jodi and AJ! Will building strenght benefit me though? Also, Is it ok to add 2TBS lt cream (6F) with 1 or sometimes 2 P shakes a day? Way better mixed with water then skim milk-(the sugars.) I found a new protein flavored strawberry and banana and mixed it with 2 TBS lt cream and water and it was so yummy!

01-21-2004, 06:52 PM	#34
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Wednesday, January 21 - HIGH CARB DAY Meal 1 - Preworkout: Fiber one, Protein, 1/2 apple Meal 2 - Postworkout: Protein Pancake, 1/2 apple, 1TBS sf jam, 2 fishies Meal 3 - Protein, 2TBS lt cream, 2 fishies Meal 4 - 5 oz extra lean beef mixed with about 1-2 TBS cottage cheese, approx TBS oats, steamed zuk, brocolli, Meal 5 - Protein Pancake, 1 asian pear, 1 TBS sf jam Meal 6 - 4 oz chicken breast, 3 baby pickles, few radishes, sf jello! WORKOUT: 20 min warm up cardio, legs, little weak though! Last edited by Jill : 01-21-2004 at 09:49 PM.

01-21-2004, 09:26 PM	#39
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,137	Hey J, Keep up the Good work! 20 min w/u cardio is a bit much. If you are going to do cardio when you lift weights save until after you are done weights.
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

01-22-2004, 09:25 AM	#40
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Thursday, January 22 - NO CARB DAY Meal 1 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 1 oz chicken breast, 1 slice lf cheese, 3 fishies (35P, 10F) Meal 2 - 4 oz chicken breast, steamed zuk, brocolli, cauli, 2 fishies (34P, 2F) Meal 4 - Protein, 2 fishies (32P, 2F) Meal 4 - 5 oz extra lean beef, spice, lotsa lettuce, low cal dressing (35P, 15F) Meal 5 - 6 whites, 1 yolk, 2oz ham, 1 slice ff cheese, lotsa lettuce with low cal dressing, 1 TBS nat PB (35P, 9F) WORKOUT: Bis and Tris. I hate these 2 body parts most! No cardio. Last edited by Jill : 01-22-2004 at 09:08 PM.

01-22-2004, 09:36 AM	#41
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,902 Photos: 7	I must say the meals look fantastic!! Keep that up along with the workouts, and you'll be wearing those short shorts and skirts come summer! Good work Jill
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

01-21-2004, 06:47 PM	#32
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	Of course building strength will benefit you!! Think you'll be able to do more things for yourself in everyday life, lifting heavier things, etc. and not to mention it feel great to pump heavy iron in the gym! strawbery and banana.. sounds good! Id only go with the cream in one of those shakes if you can. hmm try adding some natural peanut butter to one!

01-21-2004, 06:48 PM	#33
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	BTW, I made a mistake, the cream has 3G of fat for 2 TBS not 6! Ooops!

01-21-2004, 07:04 PM	#35
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	hmm if your leg workout was weak then cut back the warm up cardio to only 5 mins. 20 minutes would really take too much out of my leg workout. diets not bad but still too much whey protein. try and get in more whole food choices

01-21-2004, 07:09 PM	#36
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	I think I was weak also cause I havent done legs in almost 3 weeks, the cardio may have contributed too. I dont usually do cardio on leg days. I did eat alot of whey today hey? Thats not usual for me. OH, my p pancakes only have about 15g of whey, the rest is cottage cheese and an egg white! You should try them.

01-21-2004, 07:12 PM	#37
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Chocolate protein in water AJ?

01-21-2004, 07:29 PM	#38
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	Ahhh ok, I wasnt sure how much whey was in your pancakes. Ive made prot pancakes before., YUMM! OHH YES choc prot in water!!! crushed ice and water in the blender. dammnn good. its like a treat to me! hehe

01-22-2004, 10:04 AM	#42
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,585 Photos: 23	Jill-- WoW You are doing Fabulous sweetie!!!! Keep up the great & hard work!!!!!

01-22-2004, 11:53 AM	#45
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,902 Photos: 7	any cheats since you've gone guns ablazin' at the meals and weights?
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

01-22-2004, 08:05 PM	#46
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Stacey, you are a real doll! Jodi-Waiting for one more meal, then Ill update my post!-no carbs...uhhhhh AJ, my hammies are so friggin sore Ive been walking like an idiot up/down the stairs in my house. You should start a journal over here at IM! Oh, I tried cooking my chicken in a pan with pam and spices, it was supper yummy! And NT, Im proud cause I havent cheated, and dont plan to. I have been craving sweets and getting major headaches these last few days. Maybe its cause my body was used to sugar for 2-3 weeks straight. Who knows!

01-22-2004, 09:10 PM	#47
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,902 Photos: 7	Excellent to hear. That vacation has seemed to turn you around 180 degrees. Keep it up and sooner than you think, the cravings won't be as often or as strong - just keep in mind that it does a body and mind good to have a cheat every now and then.
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

01-23-2004, 11:02 AM	#49
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	K-Just bought the best tasting protein Ive EVER had, for real! (AND Ive tried many different flavors and brands!) PVL Gourmet Whey in strawberry banana flavor. Mixed it with water, ice, 2TBS lt cream and it was soooooooo yummy! I cant wait to have another shake!

01-23-2004, 12:09 PM	#51
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,137	I have heard PVL is good. I like optimum, but I don't really taste too much, I just down it.
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

01-23-2004, 05:51 PM	#52
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Jodi, I need your help pretty pleeze! Here is my split. Not sure about how I wanna cycle my days. 24-REST-supposed to be high carb.? 25-Chest 26-Back 27-Legs 28-REST 29-Bis & Tris 30-Shoulders 31-REST 1-Chest 2-Back 3-Legs 4-Bis & Tris 5-Shoulders 6-REST 7-Chest I did this so I could specifically pick my rest days, in relation to my work schedule-I work shift work. Any advice would be great. Even on a training split too. Thanks! Last edited by Jill : 01-23-2004 at 08:02 PM.

01-23-2004, 06:36 PM	#53
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Friday, January 23 - LOW CARB DAY Meal 1- Preworkout: Protein, 2 TBS 1/2 n' 1/2, 2 fishies (32P, 5F) Meal 2 - Postworkout: Protein Pancake, 1/4 blueberries, 1TBS sf jam (32P, 56C) Meal 3 - Protein Pancake, 1/4 blueberries, 1TBS sf jam, 2 fishies (32P, 56C, 2F) Meal 4- Protein, 2 TBS 1/2 n' 1/2, steamed broccoli & cauli, 2 fishies (32P, 5F) Meal 5 - 5 whites, 2 yolks, 1.5oz chicken breast, 1 slice lf cheese, lots lettuce, low cal dressing (35P, 12F) WORKOUT: Shoulders, 40 mins cardio Starting to not crave sugar as much. Good sign Last edited by Jill : 01-23-2004 at 10:20 PM.

01-23-2004, 06:39 PM	#54
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,902 Photos: 7	Jill, the missus says that this camp is really worthwhile. If you get a chance, you should try and go to one.
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

01-24-2004, 07:15 AM	#57
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Thanks so much Jodi! I MAY not workout 5 day is a row there, its just a temp plan. You are the greatest!!!!!!!!!

01-24-2004, 09:34 AM	#59
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Any tips on my split at all Jodi?