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Old 02-27-2004, 10:43 AM   #751
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How important do you all think it is to do decline press? I hate it!

Also, how often should abs be done? Currently I do them once a week. I need to get rid of the fat around them first!

ANy opinions would be great, thanks!
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Old 02-27-2004, 12:05 PM   #752
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interesting question ... we do them every second day. If you're after a washboard stomach, then you might want to increase the amount of ab work you do, if you just want a flat stomach, I don't know if you have to do any ab work as it's my understanding it's the diet that will show the abs. nt waiting to hear from the more experienced in this area ... maybe I don't need to do them as often as I do and still be able to have a washboard stomach



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Old 02-27-2004, 12:42 PM   #753
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I know diet plays a HUGE roll!
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Old 02-27-2004, 12:47 PM   #754
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I hardly ever do decline presses, but they do hit a different area than reg. presses. Are you trying to get the line in the middle of the chest? If so, when you are doing flyes with db's at the top when you get toward the end of the motion, turn your weights end to end. (pinky finger to pinky finger, my old trainer who was an IFBB taught me that). It makes for a nice little line down the middle.Boobie cleavage without the boobies!

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Old 02-27-2004, 01:39 PM   #755
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Thanks Jodi, Ill give it a try!

I almost died today. Seriously-the roads were icy and I was going to fast-I couldnt stop my car and slid through a red light. I almost totalled my new car to. I am very upset. I cried for atleast an hour. I am still totally freaked out. I believe everything happens for a reason, and I strongy believe it was a sign-I know deep down inside that God is sending me a message-not to go back to my old ways. (personal stuff thats came back into my life recently) I am actually glad this happened to me-It has totally opened my eyes.
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Old 02-27-2004, 01:48 PM   #756
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Aww...I am glad your ok. You have to watch out for that black ice.



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Old 02-27-2004, 01:58 PM   #757
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Be careful Jill I am glad you didn't wreck your car or get hurt!

I was doing declines for a few wks too. I was told that they are important for women to lift the boobies, it strengthens the muscle under them that hold em up, the lower pecs. I never seem to feel it though I am not sure how valuable that exercise is anyways seeing how I am not too big chested
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omg sweetie, im so glad that u didnt get into an accident *HUGS*
that is so scary!!!!!! God was definately with you, wow, what a story! I hope you feel better soon, relax darling

jstar, I heard declines help make your boobs more perky too but I havent tried them yet..
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I strongy believe it was a sign-I know deep down inside that God is sending me a message-not to go back to my old ways. (personal stuff thats came back into my life recently) I am actually glad this happened to me-It has totally opened my eyes.


So glad you're okay sweetie!!
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Old 02-27-2004, 03:15 PM   #760
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damn Jillybean be more careful!!!! Im glad that your alright!!!



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Old 02-27-2004, 03:34 PM   #761
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glad to hear you're ok ... gotta be careful out there ... with all the freezing/melting going on, there are bound to be some very slippery streets.



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Old 02-27-2004, 03:48 PM   #762
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Thanks for all concern people, its great to know you all care. My eyes are still red from being a big ol baby! I almost bought reeses pieces to make me feel better-----I didnt as I reminded myself 'no emotional eating'. I had oaties instead.
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ohh honey I am sooo glad your okay!!!!!!!!! I can imagine how scary that is!!!

And good for you for no emotional eating! You are sooo strong!!!



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psssst ... if you're looking at going out tonight, we're going to the Urban Lounge ... I'll buy ya a .......... ummmmm, water.

Have a great weekend Miss Jill.



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Old 02-27-2004, 04:27 PM   #765
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Wow ! Jill!

Glad you are ok . I bet that was a eye opening experience.



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Old 02-27-2004, 04:33 PM   #766
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02/27 HIGH CARB DAY

MEAL 1: 2/3c oats, 1/2c cottage cheese, whey, 1 ew, 1TBS coco, 1/2c frozen berries, 1tsp nat pb, 1 splenda
(25.5P, 60C, 4F)

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MEAL 2: 2/3c oats, 1/2c cottage cheese, whey, 1 ew, 1/2c strawberries, 1 splenda
(27.5P, 53C)

MEAL 3: 2/3c oats, whey, 1TBS nat pb, 3 fishies
(28P, 40C, 11.5F)

MEAL 4: 2/3c oats, 1/2c cottage cheese, whey, 1 ew, 1/2c strawberries, cukes, 1 splenda, 2 fishies
(27.5P, 53C, 2F)

MEAL 5: 3.5oz chix, lettuce, 3 fishies
(29P, 3F)

MEAL 6: 6 ew's, 1 TBS coco, 1 TBS nat pb, 1 splenda, brocolli
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163.5P, 209C, 30F
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way to go on the 40's girl!!!

somebody their oaties!



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If only I had a spotter at the time-I could have probably done 6 or 7. My tummy hurts from all the oats.

Do you recommend doing decline DB presses AJ?
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gosh woman, if your tummy hurts from all the oaties, maybe try some other carbs? altho I know how good they are!

bahh no I dont do decline. once in a blue moon really. Id rather work on my upper chest that SHOWs and you are able to get the line between your b00bies, or if your like me and dont have much, concentrating more on the upper chest will enhance the over look of it. helps me thats for sure!



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02/27 HIGH CARB DAY

MEAL 1: 2/3c oats, 1/2c cottage cheese, whey, 1 ew, 1TBS coco, 1/2c frozen berries, 1tsp nat pb, 1 splenda
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I dunno, but I always counted the 1 TSP PB = 3 Fat
and 1/2 TBSP = 4 F
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Thanks Jodi, Ill give it a try!

I almost died today. Seriously-the roads were icy and I was going to fast-I couldnt stop my car and slid through a red light. I almost totalled my new car to. I am very upset. I cried for atleast an hour. I am still totally freaked out. I believe everything happens for a reason, and I strongy believe it was a sign-I know deep down inside that God is sending me a message-not to go back to my old ways. (personal stuff thats came back into my life recently) I am actually glad this happened to me-It has totally opened my eyes.

I'm so glad you ok hun and I'm so glad that you know God is on your side and sending you a message (warning you)
I know how accidents can get to you.. I got into a car accident December 2002! I didn't want to drive again..
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Old 02-27-2004, 08:31 PM   #772
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Sara,
3TSP=1TBS
1TBS nat pb 8.5F

So as an estimate I said about 3g of fat from the pb, 1g of fat from the coco! =4F g's
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Thanks for the concern Sara, I need to be more careful now, and more cautious.
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3TSP=1TBS
1TBS nat pb 8.5F

So as an estimate I said about 3g of fat from the pb, 1g of fat from the coco! =4F g's
I count the 1 TBSP PB 8 F, we have a .5 F difference
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Old 02-27-2004, 08:41 PM   #775
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.5 never killed anyone!!! Thats what my jar says!!! Geeze girl, now you got me craving pb! Ill get my tbs in about 1 hour I cant wait!!!!!!!
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I'm staying away from nuts for now.. till I go back to my normal meals
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Old 02-28-2004, 07:44 PM   #777
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02/28 NO CARB DAY
MEAL 1: 6 ew's, 1TBS nat pb, 1TBS coco, 1 splenda
(26P, 3C, 9.5F)

MEAL 2: 1 can tuna, 2TBS mayo lt, lettuce
(29P, 4F)

MEAL 3: 4oz chix, veggies, olives-had no fishies!
(34P, 4F)

MEAL4: Protein, 1 splenda, 2 fishies
(27P, 1C, 2F)

MEAL 5: 6oz salmon, veggies, mushrooms
(36P, 10F)

MEAL 6: 6 ew's, 1TBS nat pb, 1TBS coco, 1 splenda
(26P, 3C, 9.5F)

178P , 7C, 39F
=1091 not including veggies
Was my p and f too high for todays no day? Its usually not that high

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No your P&F are good.



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Old 02-28-2004, 07:48 PM   #779
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Cool thanks!
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