Chunky Monkey to Hunky

Rissole · 02-23-2004, 01:27 PM

They are great Rock i'm tellin ya, i did 2 the other day on my first set withou puttin my hands on the floor

I always recomend P/RR/S

Rocco32 · 02-23-2004, 01:34 PM

I just don't know how P/RR/S will go with my diet unless I train on No Carb days. I don't mind that if Jodi says it's alright.

Tank316 · 02-23-2004, 01:40 PM

Rock, just pm gp with that ?, he'll help ya, not to screw up Jodi's diet for you, but Gp's program can be done on low carb days, the power wk, you go 4-5 min rest/sets. btw, your avi is impressive, looking good bro!!!!!

Rocco32 · 02-23-2004, 02:09 PM

Thanks Tank!

Maybe I can work it like this-

Power
Mon- Chest/Abs (High Carb)
Tue- Back/Calves (Low Carb)
Wed- Off (No Carb)
Thurs- Delts/Tri's/Abs (High Carb)
Fri- Legs/Bi's/Calves(Low Carb)
Sat- Off (No Carb)

RR
Sunday- Chest (High)
Monday- Back (Low)
Tue- Off (No)
Wed- Delts- (High)
Thur- Legs- (Low)

ETC... Whatcha think?

**P-funk** · 02-23-2004, 02:17 PM

how about a split like this:

day1- upper (power)
day2- lower (hypertrophy)
day3- off
day4- upper (hypertrophy)
day5- lower (power)
day 6 and 7 - off

or

Day1- chest
day2- back
Day3- rest
day4- legs/arms
day5- delts/traps
day 6 and 7 off

or

day1- chest (power)/back (hypertrophy)
day2- legs (power)
day3- shoulders (power)/ arms (hypertrophy)
day4-off
day5- back (power)/ chest (hypertrophy)
day6- legs (hypertrophy)
day7- shoulders (hypertrophy)/ arms (power)
day8- rest

or

day1- upper (push muscles power/ pull muscles hypertrophy)
day2-rest
day3- legs
day4-rest
day5- upper (pull muscles power/ push musclese hypertrophy)

Want some more ideas??

**Jodi** · 02-23-2004, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock4832
Thanks Tank!

Maybe I can work it like this-

Power
Mon- Chest/Abs (High Carb) Low
Tue- Back/Calves (Low Carb) High
Wed- Off (No Carb)
Thurs- Delts/Tri's/Abs (High Carb) I would make this Low
Fri- Legs/Bi's/Calves(Low Carb) Then this one high
Sat- Off (No Carb)

RR
Sunday- Chest (High) This low
Monday- Back (Low) This one High
Tue- Off (No)
Wed- Delts- (High) Low
Thur- Legs- (Low) High

ETC... Whatcha think?

Its ok to swap the cycle of the high/low days.

PreMier · 02-23-2004, 04:22 PM

Thats great you will get help posing from that guy. Hmm... WTF is wrong with this dudes chest? Is THIS what I think it is

firestorm · 02-23-2004, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock4832
Yeah, I'm excited but now i'm afraid to call!

No, they definately are not gay. He was listing off some of the girls at my gym I know that he's dated. They confirmed his story

He was in because part of his face went numb and paralyzed and thought he was having a stroke. He wasn't.

But he did get on me for not doing cardio yet!! Says he is 14 weeks out from his next comp and is already doing cardio twice a day

But that's ok, I'm trusting Jodi here

What do you mean your "scared"!! The guy was nice enough to offer his services bro...take advantage of it. I'm sure he gets self satisfaction from helping guys like you and I so give him a call or I will and pretend to be you. lol
What was the cause of his paralisis and did it go away? sounds like a possible pinched nerve in the neck.

firestorm · 02-23-2004, 05:37 PM

I noticed that too PreMier. I don't think it's what you think it is. I just think it's his chest. Not his strong point for sure but he still looks good "other then that".

PreMier · 02-23-2004, 05:50 PM

Yea firestorm, looks like gyno to me... I haev looked through several of his pics and seen it. Either way, if it is or not, I feel sorry for that guy.

firestorm · 02-23-2004, 05:58 PM

funny you should say that Pre.. I also just went back and moved a few pics to pc, brought them up with a picture viewer and enlarged them.. .I think your correct. He does appear to have gyno pretty bad. He will need sugery to correct that I believe.

PreMier · 02-23-2004, 06:18 PM

Hmm... I am guesing he had it already. If you look at his comp pics, he looks good in 1995. After that it seems to get worse and worse into 2000, and now he looks fine. Odd...

firestorm · 02-23-2004, 06:21 PM

I just grabbed 2 pics and didnt' take notice of the dates. I only know I grabbed the ones in question for sure. I'll have to look again damnit. lol

Rocco32 · 02-23-2004, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by firestorm
What do you mean your "scared"!! The guy was nice enough to offer his services bro...take advantage of it. I'm sure he gets self satisfaction from helping guys like you and I so give him a call or I will and pretend to be you. lol
What was the cause of his paralisis and did it go away? sounds like a possible pinched nerve in the neck.

I just don't want to be a nuisance. I will call though! He has Bells Palsy (?) Nothing to bad but he found out that night, first time that happened to him.

firestorm · 02-23-2004, 07:20 PM

Oh well that is a shame. I dont' know much about that disease. In fact I don't know anything. Fill me in.

Rocco32 · 02-23-2004, 07:31 PM

It's a partial facial paralysis usually in people who have the herpes virus. Comes and goes once "activated". Sucks I'm sure.

firestorm · 02-23-2004, 08:37 PM

yeaa that's a damn shame.

Rocco32 · 02-24-2004, 08:47 AM

Today was to be Low carb but I'm not feeling good. called in to Clinical. So I won't be working out so today and tomorrow will be no carb with 4 tbsp of leptigen.

Then on Thursday I'll start P/RR/S.

Rissole · 02-24-2004, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PreMier
Yea firestorm, looks like gyno to me... I haev looked through several of his pics and seen it. Either way, if it is or not, I feel sorry for that guy.

I thought that too, 1st pic i saw....

**IainDaniel** · 02-25-2004, 08:46 AM

How you liking the M1-T?

What about other supps included in your regimen? (leptigen, vendetta...)

PreMier · 02-25-2004, 07:39 PM

When did you start using M-1T

Rissole · 02-25-2004, 07:44 PM

When he knew he couldn't beat me "naturally"

PreMier · 02-25-2004, 07:50 PM

Rocco32 · 02-26-2004, 11:30 AM

Ok, started M1T 2 weeks ago. It makes your very tired and kinda depressed I think. But I do think I've noticed a difference in strength and my body composition.

Yes, no way can I beat Ris naturally!!

I'm not taking vendetta, I'm taking ICE. I like it, but don't really notice difference in my w/o. The Leptigen tastes awful and is a pain in the butt, I hope to see good results from it in the end though with minimal muscle loss. I'll start Ab-solved or Lipoder-ultra here soon to when Jodi gives the go ahead.

Rocco32 · 02-26-2004, 11:34 AM

Today was Power for Chest/Bi's/Abs (I rested 3 min between sets. Is that alright, GP says to rest 4-5min but that seems to long)

BP, 4 sets-
205x6
225x5
245x2 *PB
205x5

Incline DB, 3 sets-
85x6
90x6 *PB
90x4

Decline HS, 2 sets-
290x5
300x5 *PB

Incline Curl, 2 sets-
45x6 *PB
45x5

Preacher, 2 sets-
85x5
85x4

Hammer, 2 sets-
40x6
40x6

Decline Sit-up, 3 sets-
15x7
15x6
10x8 ( I feel this exercise more in my back than my abs. Am I doing it wrong or at risk for injuring my back?)

Crunch Machine, 3 sets-
15x10
170x7 *PB
170x5

Rissole · 02-26-2004, 01:25 PM

Hey Rock, you say you dont feel th M1-T in your workout and you got new pb's all over the shop........ummm der...

Recovery time is whatever you feel you need.

Decline situps suck ass... i dont like them cause i feel it in the back too, when you go back horizontal youcant round your backand come down smooth so you hyperex. your back and yeech....

**Jodi** · 02-26-2004, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rock4832
Ok, started M1T 2 weeks ago. It makes your very tired and kinda depressed I think. But I do think I've noticed a difference in strength and my body composition.

Yes, no way can I beat Ris naturally!!

I'm not taking vendetta, I'm taking ICE. I like it, but don't really notice difference in my w/o. The Leptigen tastes awful and is a pain in the butt, I hope to see good results from it in the end though with minimal muscle loss. I'll start Ab-solved or Lipoder-ultra here soon to when Jodi gives the go ahead.

Start next week

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02-23-2004, 01:34 PM	#152
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	I just don't know how P/RR/S will go with my diet unless I train on No Carb days. I don't mind that if Jodi says it's alright.
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02-23-2004, 01:40 PM	#153
Tank316 P/RR/Sh Warrior Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Barron,Wi Posts: 4,345 Photos: 8	Rock, just pm gp with that ?, he'll help ya, not to screw up Jodi's diet for you, but Gp's program can be done on low carb days, the power wk, you go 4-5 min rest/sets. btw, your avi is impressive, looking good bro!!!!!
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02-23-2004, 02:09 PM	#154
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Thanks Tank! Maybe I can work it like this- Power Mon- Chest/Abs (High Carb) Tue- Back/Calves (Low Carb) Wed- Off (No Carb) Thurs- Delts/Tri's/Abs (High Carb) Fri- Legs/Bi's/Calves(Low Carb) Sat- Off (No Carb) RR Sunday- Chest (High) Monday- Back (Low) Tue- Off (No) Wed- Delts- (High) Thur- Legs- (Low) ETC... Whatcha think?
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

02-23-2004, 02:17 PM	#155
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,341	how about a split like this: day1- upper (power) day2- lower (hypertrophy) day3- off day4- upper (hypertrophy) day5- lower (power) day 6 and 7 - off or Day1- chest day2- back Day3- rest day4- legs/arms day5- delts/traps day 6 and 7 off or day1- chest (power)/back (hypertrophy) day2- legs (power) day3- shoulders (power)/ arms (hypertrophy) day4-off day5- back (power)/ chest (hypertrophy) day6- legs (hypertrophy) day7- shoulders (hypertrophy)/ arms (power) day8- rest or day1- upper (push muscles power/ pull muscles hypertrophy) day2-rest day3- legs day4-rest day5- upper (pull muscles power/ push musclese hypertrophy) Want some more ideas??
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02-23-2004, 04:22 PM	#157
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,054 Photos: 2	Thats great you will get help posing from that guy. Hmm... WTF is wrong with this dudes chest? Is THIS what I think it is
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02-23-2004, 05:37 PM	#159
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	I noticed that too PreMier. I don't think it's what you think it is. I just think it's his chest. Not his strong point for sure but he still looks good "other then that".

02-23-2004, 05:50 PM	#160
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,054 Photos: 2	Yea firestorm, looks like gyno to me... I haev looked through several of his pics and seen it. Either way, if it is or not, I feel sorry for that guy.
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02-23-2004, 05:58 PM	#161
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	funny you should say that Pre.. I also just went back and moved a few pics to pc, brought them up with a picture viewer and enlarged them.. .I think your correct. He does appear to have gyno pretty bad. He will need sugery to correct that I believe.

02-23-2004, 06:18 PM	#162
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,054 Photos: 2	Hmm... I am guesing he had it already. If you look at his comp pics, he looks good in 1995. After that it seems to get worse and worse into 2000, and now he looks fine. Odd...
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02-23-2004, 06:21 PM	#163
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	I just grabbed 2 pics and didnt' take notice of the dates. I only know I grabbed the ones in question for sure. I'll have to look again damnit. lol

02-23-2004, 07:20 PM	#165
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	Oh well that is a shame. I dont' know much about that disease. In fact I don't know anything. Fill me in.

02-23-2004, 07:31 PM	#166
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	It's a partial facial paralysis usually in people who have the herpes virus. Comes and goes once "activated". Sucks I'm sure.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

02-23-2004, 08:37 PM	#167
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	yeaa that's a damn shame.

02-24-2004, 08:47 AM	#168
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Today was to be Low carb but I'm not feeling good. called in to Clinical. So I won't be working out so today and tomorrow will be no carb with 4 tbsp of leptigen. Then on Thursday I'll start P/RR/S.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

02-25-2004, 08:46 AM	#170
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02-25-2004, 07:39 PM	#171
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,054 Photos: 2	When did you start using M-1T
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02-25-2004, 07:44 PM	#172
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02-25-2004, 07:50 PM	#173
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02-26-2004, 11:30 AM	#174
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Ok, started M1T 2 weeks ago. It makes your very tired and kinda depressed I think. But I do think I've noticed a difference in strength and my body composition. Yes, no way can I beat Ris naturally!! I'm not taking vendetta, I'm taking ICE. I like it, but don't really notice difference in my w/o. The Leptigen tastes awful and is a pain in the butt, I hope to see good results from it in the end though with minimal muscle loss. I'll start Ab-solved or Lipoder-ultra here soon to when Jodi gives the go ahead.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

02-26-2004, 11:34 AM	#175
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Today was Power for Chest/Bi's/Abs (I rested 3 min between sets. Is that alright, GP says to rest 4-5min but that seems to long) BP, 4 sets- 205x6 225x5 245x2 PB 205x5 Incline DB, 3 sets- 85x6 90x6 PB 90x4 Decline HS, 2 sets- 290x5 300x5 PB Incline Curl, 2 sets- 45x6 PB 45x5 Preacher, 2 sets- 85x5 85x4 Hammer, 2 sets- 40x6 40x6 Decline Sit-up, 3 sets- 15x7 15x6 10x8 ( I feel this exercise more in my back than my abs. Am I doing it wrong or at risk for injuring my back?) Crunch Machine, 3 sets- 15x10 170x7 *PB 170x5
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

02-26-2004, 01:25 PM	#176
Rissole 2 Samuel 24:24 Elite Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: "OZTRAILYA" :D Posts: 8,286 Photos: 36	Hey Rock, you say you dont feel th M1-T in your workout and you got new pb's all over the shop........ummm der... Recovery time is whatever you feel you need. Decline situps suck ass... i dont like them cause i feel it in the back too, when you go back horizontal youcant round your backand come down smooth so you hyperex. your back and yeech....
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