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Old 02-10-2004, 01:29 PM   #61
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Great post NC And very very sad
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Old 02-10-2004, 06:02 PM   #62
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sara...your preplanned food has basically no carbs and no fat.

if you posted it correctly your total calories are just over 600 for the day. you should be eating more than TWICE that! this is very bad for you in every possible way.
Thanx hon, thank you jenny, jodi and everyone else in here
I just wanted to restrict my fat/carbs today.. because of all the nuts I had yesturday.. I'll post my actual meals for today.. too late though on the first 4 meals, they were very low in fat.. I will have two other meals, and make them mod fat (good fat source, not nuts though).........

I'm 120 lbs. now, gained 10 lbs for the past 2 weeks
what would be the best plan you guys have for me to start with tomorrow, so I can lose 5 lbs. of fat? (I'm just not liking my body from the past 2-3 weeks)
and I want to look good / lean on Feb 22'nd!
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Old 02-10-2004, 06:30 PM   #63
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I'll try again...i know you were restricting fat and carbs and calories because of the nuts. but doing that starves your body and makes you likely to eat a ton of crap so then after THAT you'll deprive yourself again to make up for it.

Don't you see the pattern? restrict/binge/repeat?

That's why a few of us mentioned not cycling or restricting anything but instead going with a balanced diet to find an even keel you can maintain for a while.



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Old 02-10-2004, 07:02 PM   #64
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I can't be cycling like jenny, Jill and the others?
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Old 02-10-2004, 07:05 PM   #65
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How much carbs/ fats I should be consuming on daily basis, while I still want to lose the fat?
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Old 02-10-2004, 07:16 PM   #66
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I can't be cycling like jenny, Jill and the others?
Hi Again - I personally don't think you should do any kind of cycling at this point because it might encourage your pattern where you drastically restrict calories/carbs/fat as a result of a binge (that was caused by the restricting to begin with).

I think you'd be too likely to add additional no carb days and to not eat enough carbs on high days which would only further compromise your metabolism and health.

There are plenty of others far more qualified than I am ..but no suggestions will help until you're willing to listen.

K? Please think about it and I bet you'll realize that you've been hearing sort of similar stuff from a lot of people for a while (another pattern? )



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Old 02-10-2004, 07:22 PM   #68
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I'm ready to listen nikegurl
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Old 02-10-2004, 09:13 PM   #69
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[quote]Originally posted by sara
6:50
1/2 cup x-tra lean ground turkey breast
1/4 cup egg whites
1 cup spinach
(25P, 1 F)
** Mint Tea**

9:20 PWO
1/2 cup x-tra lean ground turkey breast
1/4 cup egg whites
1 cup spinach
(25P, 1F)

12:20
1 EAS ready to drink shake
(20P, 3.5F, 3C)

3:00
1can 98% lean chicken breast (30P, 2F)
some shreded parmasion cheese
Veggies: Romaine lettuce, tomatoes
(30P, ?F)
coffee/ powdered non dairy milk

6:20
1 whole egg
1/4 cup x-tra lean ground turkey breast
some shredded cheese
1 TBSP cottage cheese
Veggies: broccoli, celery, onions
(~18P, ~10F)
** Hot Cocoa/ powdered non dairy milk**

8:45
1/2 cup lean ground beef
some FF cottage cheese
some shredded cheese
~ 1 TSP butter
5 blueberries
veggies: broccoli
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Sarah, why not go for a balanced plan with 40% protein, 40% carbs and 20%fat. I don't know your caloric needs, so I can't give you any grams, but I'm sure some of the other girls can help you with what to aim for

You can't gain 10lbs of fat in just two weeks, so a lot of that is water weight and nothing else. I don't see ANY carbs in your meals yesterday and Sara, you're NOT going to benefit from it. I'm eating more carbs right now than I've had for several years and I am looking better than I've ever had.. Sweetie, listen to us, we care about you
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Thanx Jenny the balanced meal plan sounds great.. I'm not sure how many calories I need to consume now to lose the fat, and fit back into my jeans
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Chiming in again...

Sara you need to go get your bodyfat done. You continue to say that you need to lose fat..are you sure?

Get a baseline sweetie so you know exactly where you stand and then can set goals from there



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Old 02-11-2004, 07:40 PM   #73
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my school's gym looking for people who can do a fitness test, I guess it's like competeing, who has the best figure, who is the leanest.. this actually started the first week of this week, but they still accepting people to participate.. I want to participate in this.... it starts this month and we work on it till the first week of may.. I'm really intrested, I went to check with my doctor for my protein intake, he said I can have up to 110-120 grams per day..
this event at school, is we need to do everything on our own.. our own training and meal plans.. I need help to do well in this contest... first price winner gets a scholarship
(this is so great, it's going to make me to stop binging, and go back in shape!!)
one trainer there, recomended everyone to cut on our carbs for a week, so they can have our measurements
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What type of school is this? That's a really weird thing to do. I mean, promoting health and well being is one thing, but offering a scholarship and making a contest? Strange.
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I guess the school extra $ that they want to give out
it't a college
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my school's gym looking for people who can do a fitness test, I guess it's like competeing, who has the best figure, who is the leanest.. this actually started the first week of this week, but they still accepting people to participate.. I want to participate in this.... it starts this month and we work on it till the first week of may.. I'm really intrested, I went to check with my doctor for my protein intake, he said I can have up to 110-120 grams per day..
this event at school, is we need to do everything on our own.. our own training and meal plans.. I need help to do well in this contest... first price winner gets a scholarship
(this is so great, it's going to make me to stop binging, and go back in shape!!)
one trainer there, recomended everyone to cut on our carbs for a week, so they can have our measurements
I think this is a bad idea for you right now. You're having problems as it is and this would add pressure on you..
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I agree with Jenny hon.
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hi sara. i also think it's not a good idea for you now and please don't eliminate your carbs as "suggested" by one of the trainers. i promise you it's counter productive and sets you up for the same pattern all over again.



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guys I know you worrying about me... I think I'll try it for a week (the no-carbs) and see what happens after that.. if I cheat on my no carbs- week, then I really have problems..
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after I succesfully complete the no carbs week.. I will need to find a good plan to melt down lots of BF by may
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What BF? Have you had your BF% checked? Doesn't sound to me like you have any BF to lose.



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Hi Sara....lots of people have told you that your no carb approach(which seems to be pretty low in fats and ridiculously low in calories) is what causes you to "blow it" and sort of binge. It happens b/c you are starving yourself.!

But when your body revolts and demands more calories (for survival's sake) you decide to really crack the whip and eliminate the carbs AGAIN. You said you were starting to see the cycle/pattern. So why are you deliberately repeating it?

The trainer who suggested the week of no carbs doesn't know anything about your history. I'm more worried than ever but i'm gonna try to stop saying anything more. As my grandmother always said..."you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him/her drink"



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That's why I gave up. You can't force feed her and she is going to royally fuck her body and at the rate she is at it will be to the point of hospitalization.



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What BF? Have you had your BF% checked? Doesn't sound to me like you have any BF to lose.
I know I do have lots of body fat now! even my parents noticed me gaining weight..
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Hi Sara....lots of people have told you that your no carb approach(which seems to be pretty low in fats and ridiculously low in calories) is what causes you to "blow it" and sort of binge. It happens b/c you are starving yourself.!

only today my no carb day was low in fat. starting tomorrow it will be high in good fat, low in carbs

But when your body revolts and demands more calories (for survival's sake) you decide to really crack the whip and eliminate the carbs AGAIN. You said you were starting to see the cycle/pattern. So why are you deliberately repeating it?

trust me , I will not binge again.

The trainer who suggested the week of no carbs doesn't know anything about your history. I'm more worried than ever but i'm gonna try to stop saying anything more. As my grandmother always said..."you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him/her drink"
thank you hon
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That's why I gave up. You can't force feed her and she is going to royally fuck her body and at the rate she is at it will be to the point of hospitalization.
you mean my BF rate?
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