sara

I'm back! I mean my clean healthy meals is back! I don't know what plan I should be following so I can be extra lean...
I will start tomorrow on No Carbs, plus tomorrow is my training day..

Pre-planned for tomorrow 2/5/04

ONE- (pre-workout)
1/2 cup cottage cheese
egg whites
(Hot Tea)

TWO- PWO
4-5 oz. very lean tenderloin pork
Green veggies

THREE-
1/2 cup ground lean beef
veggies


FOUR-
FIVE-

sara

any inputs are welcomed!

Jill

Are you carb cycling Sara?

sara

I dunno, should I?

Jill

I'm liking it. Ive lost my 'vacation' weight plus a little bit more Im sure, Im trying not to weigh myself often. Ive also lost some inches. Im gonna re-measure in a few.

sara

How many days you have No carb days in a week? and how many days yo have low carb days?

Jill

Have you read TP's article over at Avantlabs? Check it out, it explains things really well.

sara

where is it at?

Jill

I hope this works! http://www.avantlabs.com/main.php

Jill

Nope-its Sept's issue, #15

sara

Thanx sweetie

atherjen

Sara, I think that you would really enjoy the carb cycling.. very easy to follow and nothing to any extremes.
Best of luck girl!

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Jodi

Sara - you are anorexic!! Why can't you understand this. You don't need to diet. You need to gain weight. Please, please go see a doctor. STOP DIETING!!!!! You are hurting yourself. Try and understand this. No diets!!! Why do you think you binge? Because you starve yourself. You are TOOO thin - yes there is such a thing as being too thin. Please see a doctor!!!!

Essence EFA

aggies1ut

I don't mean to intrude, but you can talk to someone till you are blue in the face and it'll make no difference. Before you can get help for something, you yourself have to admit that there is a problem.....I think she realizes there is a problem, but doesn't realize how serious it is and consequently, is not ready to seek help.

aggies1ut

Btw Sara, I in no way, mean to offend you.

sara

Jodi, I don't think I'm anorexic at all. maybe I used to be anorexic few months ago, when my bW was 105 or less... now I'm up to 120 or more now, haven't weighted myself for few days..

sara

If I have a problem, I know I'm strong enough to solve the problem by myself

Jodi

You don't need a diet. You need a balanced meal plan, not something that is going to put you in a caloric deficit. How tall are you again?

Please don't diet - just eat enough to maintain and to stop binging. If you try to diet now (caloric deficit) you will not be able to control the binging.

Essence EFA

sara

I'm 5'3 or 5'4
Jodi, If you don't want me to diet. and you want me to eat have balanced meals, what would be the fat/protein and carbs ratio in a balanced meal?

Stacey

Hi Sara-- do you have any pictures???

sara

I don't have a scanner to post pix

nikegurl

Hi Sara - I urge you to listen to Jodi on this....she knows you better than I do but I definitely share her thoughts and concerns.

At the very least I would suggest you steer clear of carb cycling for now. (just my opinion). It's a great plan but I worry that you won't eat all the carbs you need to on high carb days and that you'll add in additional no carb days to compensate etc. etc. The extremes seem like a particularly bad idea for you now. Almost like they could encourage binging and starving in your case.

Hope I'm not out of line...I've followed along in a lot of your journals and I promise I'm concerned and not trying to be a pain in the ass.

Tomorrow may be the best day of your life.

Or not.

sara

nikegirl, you are such a sweetheart
Thank you for all you'r concerns! I reallly appreicate it
you don't know how much this means to me, thank you again
I was thinking of having my own plain.. I kinda made it up last night...

Sundays- No carbs/ Mod fat workout day
Mondays- NO carbs/ Low fat
Tuesdays- Mod carbs/ Low fat (meals: 1,2,3) workout day
Wednesdays- Mod carbs/Low fat (meals: 1,2,3)
Thursdays- Mod carbs/ Low fat (Meals: 1,2,3) workout day
Fridays- Low carbs/ Mod Fat (Meals: 1,2, 3)
Saturdays- Low carbs/Mod Fat (Meal: 1 only)

nikegurl

any chance you could be persuaded to go with a balanced plan of healthy foods that stays the same each day at least for awhile?

i think the manipulating of the carbs and fats might encourage you to go to extremes in both directions and once the cycle starts....

believe me. i know how that can go. you eat what you feel is too many carbs so you "punish" yourself with some no carb days but then your calories are so low that you may binge...so then you cut out carbs and drastically lower calories to make up for the last binge....

will you at least consider it for awhile?

Tomorrow may be the best day of your life.

Or not.

sara

what kind of plan you reocommend?

atherjen

I defintly agree!! this would be a much wiser choice for the time being!

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sara

Thursday 2/5/04

7:20- 1/2 cup FF cottage cheese, 1 whole egg
2 celery
*** Hot Tea**
(20P, 5F)

10:00- PWO- 4 oz. extra lean tenderloin pork, 2 fish oil
veggies: lettuce, red pepper, mushroom
(22P, 3.5F)

12:00- 3 egg whites, ~ 1/2 cup FF cottage cheese,
Almond cookies(made w/ lots grinded alomonds and egg whites), 1 large handfull peanuts
2 Sugar free candies
(?P, ?F)

3:00- 1 cup Hot plain mint Tea

5:00- 1/2 cup lean ground beef, 1 slice FF cheese
~ 1/2 TBSP FF cream cheese, few blueberries, 5 Almonds
Veggies: broccoli, green onions, jalepeno pepper
(~22P, ~ 14F)

** Hot Cocoa/ powdered non dairy milk**
(the hot cocoa got 2 carbs one of the carbs is fiber the other carb is unlisted) so no sugar in cocoa!

~8:00- ~ 1/2 cup FF cottage cheese, 1 egg white, bite of cheese,1 TSP FF cream cheese
2 TSP sunflowerseeds, some peanuts and PB, 2 walnuts
(?P, ?F)
[i]** Hot Cocoa/ non dairy powdered milk** [/

sara

Thursday 2/5/04

Chest/Back

DB Chest Press 20/12, 20/10, 20/9, 20/7

Machine press 62.5/5, 55/8, 55/7, 55/7

DB Incline Flye 15/9, 15/9, 17.5/5, 15/9

Pec Dec Flye 40/11, 40/9, 40/6

Lat Cable Pull down 55/12, 62.5/8, 62.5/8

DB Row (one arm at a time) 22.5/12, 25/10, 25/10, 25/9

Close Grip Cable Row 50/12, 50/10, 50/9

DB Arm wrist 5/20

sara

Friday 2/6/04

6:50- 1/3 cup oats, 1/2 cup FF cottage cheese, 1 fish oil
(~20P, 3F, ?C)
** Hot Cocoa/powdered non-dairy milk**

11:20- Carb-up meal

7:00- 1.5 serving tuna
2 Fish oil
Steamed Broccoli
(~3F, 19P)

~9:00

atherjen

7+ hours between meals hun??
what was in your carb up meal?

" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed."

NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd
NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th
NPC Mississippi State July 22nd