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Old 02-16-2004, 08:23 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Lets see whats under this mess

Well time to start trimming the fat coming up to the April 31st deadline. I have ten weeks to be perfect and see what I can mold this slab into.

I would like to think I have gained some considerable size in muscle. I will being doing some measurements tonite, and taking some starting photos. Also Tomorrow I will be getting my BF measured, haven't had one done in a while, so better check it out and see what I have to deal with. I am hoping I am not too high over 20%, but we'll see.

Any way then Plan is to do TP's Carb Cycling with a push/pull split 2 on 1 off 2 on 1 off repeat. I am thinking about doing cardio once a week to start, but we'll see what my BF comes back like. Not to sure how to split up the Carb Cycles to match my workout program, will need a little help here????

There is no Workout tonite but I do have hockey. Today will be a no Carb Day.

Todays Meals will look like this, hopefully I have figured this out alright

Meal 1
50 g Optimum Whey
5 Fish Oil

Meal 2
1.5 cups 2% Cottage Cheese
Cinn
Stevia

Meal 3
Chicken
Romaine
Apple Cider Vinegar
Fish Oil

Meal 4
1.5 Tuna
Romaine
1 tsp Flax
ACV

Meal 5
Pork
Cauliflower
Fish Oil

Meal 6
2 scoops ON Whey
Fish Oil

Supps
Multi Vit
Vit C 1-2 Grams
Ginkgo Biloba
Finishing off Swole v2

Let me know your thoughts

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Old 02-16-2004, 08:46 AM   #2
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No carb day for you too? We can suffer together! I will be keeping my eye on you in your new journal! Good luck!!
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Old 02-16-2004, 09:41 AM   #3
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Hey buddy, you, me, and Jill Carb cycling! I work out on my High and low carb days and have off on the no carb day. That works pretty well for me. Let me know how you like the no carb day!



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Old 02-16-2004, 11:47 AM   #4
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How many fish oils per day total are you taking?

What are your macros for the day?

I'd like to see the cottage cheese meal moved to bedtime instead.

What does your split look like and we can figure out your days.



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Old 02-16-2004, 12:21 PM   #5
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How many fish oils per day total are you taking?

What are your macros for the day?

I'd like to see the cottage cheese meal moved to bedtime instead.

What does your split look like and we can figure out your days.
15- 20 fish

Meal 1
50 g Optimum Whey
5 Fish Oil
P 46 C 4 F 5

Meal 2
1.5 cups 2% Cottage Cheese
Cinn
Stevia
P 47 C 12 F 7

Meal 3
Chicken
Romaine
Apple Cider Vinegar
5 Fish Oil
P 44 C 3 F 10

Meal 4
1.5 Tuna
Romaine
1 tsp Flax
ACV
P 44 C 3 F 10

Meal 5
Pork
Cauliflower
P 48 C 5 F 8

Meal 6
2 scoops ON Whey
5 Fish Oil
P 46 C 4 F5

Totals
P 275 C 27 F 45
Cals 1618 Damn isn't that pretty freakin low

Then a low carb day would be 2425 with 230g of carbs
and a high carb day, not sure yet.

Breaks down over 6 six days which screws things up a little
ie. This Week
Mon - No workout
Tues - Pull
Wed - Push
Thurs - No
Fri - Pull
Sat - Push
Sun- no
Basically a 2 on 1 off Plan with an A and B day



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Old 02-16-2004, 12:28 PM   #6
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Cals 1618 Damn isn't that pretty freakin low
Its only 1 day - you'll survive

Mon - No workout - No Carb
Tues - Pull - High
Wed - Push - Low
Thurs - No - No
Fri - Pull - High
Sat - Push - Low
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Old 02-16-2004, 12:41 PM   #7
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I was pretty freakin hungry when I woke up this morning, I'll just have you know.

So I can just keep going High, low, no?

With this I will be constantly providing my pull exercises with an extra benefit ie high Carb Day. and Push exercises will be lacking, or am I wrong in thinking this???



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I don't think it will have any effect but why not switch it up every week. Pull/Push/Rest then the next week Push/Pull/Rest and keep the High, Low, No.



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Old 02-16-2004, 12:45 PM   #9
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Cool Thanks J!

Much Appreciated. :starving: they need a smilie for this.

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The no Carb was hard the first 2-3 times for me but now I love those days best! I don't notice any difference lifting between High and low carb days if that means anything to you!



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Old 02-16-2004, 01:09 PM   #11
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Thats what I would figure.

230+ g of Carbs is alot for me



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Yeah, me too. High Carb days are hard because I feel I have to eat more carbs than I desire to.



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Yeah, me too. High Carb days are hard because I feel I have to eat more carbs than I desire to.
HIGH carb days are my fav!
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Old 02-17-2004, 08:24 AM   #14
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Question Proposed High Carb Day?

Meal 1
2 scoops ON
60g Fibre one
68g Oat Bran
1 Pear
5 Fish Oil

P 61 C 120 F 15

Meal 2
1.5 Cups 1% Cottage Cheese
Stevia
Cinnamon

P 42 C 9 F 3

Meal 3
8 oz Pork
Romaine
ACV
10 Oz Yam
Apple
5 Fish oil

P 54 C 106 F 14

Meal 4
Tuna
Romaine
Flax
ACV

P 44 C 3 F 10

Meal 5
Turkey Chili
Brown Rice
5 Fish Oil
1/2 Apple

P 45 C 96 F 12

Meal 6
2 scoops ON
90 Grams Oats
1/2 Apple

P 70 C 118 F 15

Totals
P 316 C 452 F 69

Cals 3693

Last two meals are High Carbs because I usually work out late at night

I accounted for fruits in totals and didn't account for dietary fibre, That is pretty freakin high. I probably could have eaten more for meal 1 but would have been late for work, probably one of the negatives of using a Protein Shake.

Any thoughts High Carb day?



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Jodi gets mad when you count your carbs on high carb days. Just a warning!
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Old 02-17-2004, 09:49 AM   #16
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I am just showing them so she gets an idea of what my caloric totals will be



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I am just showing them so she gets an idea of what my caloric totals will be
Looks good but DO NOT MEASURE YOUR CARBS

Eat til your satisified and I don't care if its 10oz. of yam or 15 oz. yam. EAT DAMMIT! Trust me after a few days of this you will appreciate these high carb days



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Old 02-17-2004, 04:11 PM   #18
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Well I am pretty happy (for me atleast).

I gained minimal BF over my bulk which is awesome

When I started this I was around 19% BF and am now 19.7%

Measurements
Chest 13
Tri 12.6
Suprailium 23.6
Ab 24.5
Thigh 21.7
Subscapula 26.1
Midaxillary 19.5

I know I am not a specimen of a bodybuilder but we all have to start somewhere.

So as what to achieve now. I would like to drop down my BF% obviously. Would 10-12% be a realistic goal? at 12% BF that would require losing 18.44 lbs of BF over 11 weeks or 1.67 lbs /week. Seems pretty realistic to me.



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Old 02-17-2004, 08:07 PM   #19
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Pull 02/17

Rack Dead
135x10 w/u
225x10 w/u
315x6
315x5
275x6

BB Row
135x10
185x6
205x5

WG Hammer Strenght Pull down
270x8
320x6
270x7

SLDL
135x10
225x6
225x5

Lying Leg Curls
150x8
165x8
150x8

BB Curl
100x6
100x6
100x6

Ab Machine
210x6
210x6
210x6

Ab Leg Raise Machine
120x6
120x6
120x6



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Not a great workout, but got better as it went along. Full feeling from all the carbs makes things a little harder while working out.



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Why is there an april 21st deadline? competing?



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Not officially competing (maybe someday, gotta long way to go)

But I am competing against myself and this online competition.

Last time I was this weight was after my first year of University, can you say fat bastard, went from 205 to 230+. So I am mainly doing this for myself, to educate me about my bodies reactions and a sense of pride



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Not a great workout, but got better as it went along. Full feeling from all the carbs makes things a little harder while working out.
Well your not suppose to stuff yourself silly

Just eat til your satisfied on high carb days. Not to the point that your full



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Full= satisfied

Actually after the first few high carb meals I felt fine. It was that last one, I switched up the Rice with Whole Wheat Pasta mixed into my chili. I ate alot but didn't feel full. I was just bloated by the time I went to workout.



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Looking good. Good news about your BF! That's awesome. And if 230=fat bastart, what was I? (275)



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looking good IAD...cant wait to see your pics on the 31st
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Old 02-18-2004, 07:33 AM   #27
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Thanks J'Bo!

Time to trim the fat