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    Thumbs up Lets see whats under this mess

    Well time to start trimming the fat coming up to the April 31st deadline. I have ten weeks to be perfect and see what I can mold this slab into.

    I would like to think I have gained some considerable size in muscle. I will being doing some measurements tonite, and taking some starting photos. Also Tomorrow I will be getting my BF measured, haven't had one done in a while, so better check it out and see what I have to deal with. I am hoping I am not too high over 20%, but we'll see.

    Any way then Plan is to do TP's Carb Cycling with a push/pull split 2 on 1 off 2 on 1 off repeat. I am thinking about doing cardio once a week to start, but we'll see what my BF comes back like. Not to sure how to split up the Carb Cycles to match my workout program, will need a little help here????

    There is no Workout tonite but I do have hockey. Today will be a no Carb Day.

    Todays Meals will look like this, hopefully I have figured this out alright

    Meal 1
    50 g Optimum Whey
    5 Fish Oil

    Meal 2
    1.5 cups 2% Cottage Cheese
    Cinn
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    Meal 3
    Chicken
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    Apple Cider Vinegar
    Fish Oil

    Meal 4
    1.5 Tuna
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    1 tsp Flax
    ACV

    Meal 5
    Pork
    Cauliflower
    Fish Oil

    Meal 6
    2 scoops ON Whey
    Fish Oil

    Supps
    Multi Vit
    Vit C 1-2 Grams
    Ginkgo Biloba
    Finishing off Swole v2

    Let me know your thoughts

    Thanks
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    No carb day for you too? We can suffer together! I will be keeping my eye on you in your new journal! Good luck!!

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    Hey buddy, you, me, and Jill Carb cycling! I work out on my High and low carb days and have off on the no carb day. That works pretty well for me. Let me know how you like the no carb day!
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    How many fish oils per day total are you taking?

    What are your macros for the day?

    I'd like to see the cottage cheese meal moved to bedtime instead.

    What does your split look like and we can figure out your days.



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    Originally posted by Jodi
    How many fish oils per day total are you taking?

    What are your macros for the day?

    I'd like to see the cottage cheese meal moved to bedtime instead.

    What does your split look like and we can figure out your days.
    15- 20 fish

    Meal 1
    50 g Optimum Whey
    5 Fish Oil
    P 46 C 4 F 5

    Meal 2
    1.5 cups 2% Cottage Cheese
    Cinn
    Stevia
    P 47 C 12 F 7

    Meal 3
    Chicken
    Romaine
    Apple Cider Vinegar
    5 Fish Oil
    P 44 C 3 F 10

    Meal 4
    1.5 Tuna
    Romaine
    1 tsp Flax
    ACV
    P 44 C 3 F 10

    Meal 5
    Pork
    Cauliflower
    P 48 C 5 F 8

    Meal 6
    2 scoops ON Whey
    5 Fish Oil
    P 46 C 4 F5

    Totals
    P 275 C 27 F 45
    Cals 1618 Damn isn't that pretty freakin low

    Then a low carb day would be 2425 with 230g of carbs
    and a high carb day, not sure yet.

    Breaks down over 6 six days which screws things up a little
    ie. This Week
    Mon - No workout
    Tues - Pull
    Wed - Push
    Thurs - No
    Fri - Pull
    Sat - Push
    Sun- no
    Basically a 2 on 1 off Plan with an A and B day

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    Cals 1618 Damn isn't that pretty freakin low
    Its only 1 day - you'll survive

    Mon - No workout - No Carb
    Tues - Pull - High
    Wed - Push - Low
    Thurs - No - No
    Fri - Pull - High
    Sat - Push - Low
    Sun- no - No



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    I was pretty freakin hungry when I woke up this morning, I'll just have you know.

    So I can just keep going High, low, no?

    With this I will be constantly providing my pull exercises with an extra benefit ie high Carb Day. and Push exercises will be lacking, or am I wrong in thinking this???

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    I don't think it will have any effect but why not switch it up every week. Pull/Push/Rest then the next week Push/Pull/Rest and keep the High, Low, No.



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    Cool Thanks J!

    Much Appreciated. :starving: they need a smilie for this.

    Thanks

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    The no Carb was hard the first 2-3 times for me but now I love those days best! I don't notice any difference lifting between High and low carb days if that means anything to you!
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    Thats what I would figure.

    230+ g of Carbs is alot for me

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    Yeah, me too. High Carb days are hard because I feel I have to eat more carbs than I desire to.
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

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    Originally posted by rock4832
    Yeah, me too. High Carb days are hard because I feel I have to eat more carbs than I desire to.
    HIGH carb days are my fav!

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    Question Proposed High Carb Day?

    Meal 1
    2 scoops ON
    60g Fibre one
    68g Oat Bran
    1 Pear
    5 Fish Oil

    P 61 C 120 F 15

    Meal 2
    1.5 Cups 1% Cottage Cheese
    Stevia
    Cinnamon

    P 42 C 9 F 3

    Meal 3
    8 oz Pork
    Romaine
    ACV
    10 Oz Yam
    Apple
    5 Fish oil

    P 54 C 106 F 14

    Meal 4
    Tuna
    Romaine
    Flax
    ACV

    P 44 C 3 F 10

    Meal 5
    Turkey Chili
    Brown Rice
    5 Fish Oil
    1/2 Apple

    P 45 C 96 F 12

    Meal 6
    2 scoops ON
    90 Grams Oats
    1/2 Apple

    P 70 C 118 F 15

    Totals
    P 316 C 452 F 69

    Cals 3693

    Last two meals are High Carbs because I usually work out late at night

    I accounted for fruits in totals and didn't account for dietary fibre, That is pretty freakin high. I probably could have eaten more for meal 1 but would have been late for work, probably one of the negatives of using a Protein Shake.

    Any thoughts High Carb day?

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    Jodi gets mad when you count your carbs on high carb days. Just a warning!

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    I am just showing them so she gets an idea of what my caloric totals will be

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    Originally posted by IainDaniel
    I am just showing them so she gets an idea of what my caloric totals will be
    Looks good but DO NOT MEASURE YOUR CARBS

    Eat til your satisified and I don't care if its 10oz. of yam or 15 oz. yam. EAT DAMMIT! Trust me after a few days of this you will appreciate these high carb days



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    Well I am pretty happy (for me atleast).

    I gained minimal BF over my bulk which is awesome

    When I started this I was around 19% BF and am now 19.7%

    Measurements
    Chest 13
    Tri 12.6
    Suprailium 23.6
    Ab 24.5
    Thigh 21.7
    Subscapula 26.1
    Midaxillary 19.5

    I know I am not a specimen of a bodybuilder but we all have to start somewhere.

    So as what to achieve now. I would like to drop down my BF% obviously. Would 10-12% be a realistic goal? at 12% BF that would require losing 18.44 lbs of BF over 11 weeks or 1.67 lbs /week. Seems pretty realistic to me.

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    Pull 02/17

    Rack Dead
    135x10 w/u
    225x10 w/u
    315x6
    315x5
    275x6

    BB Row
    135x10
    185x6
    205x5

    WG Hammer Strenght Pull down
    270x8
    320x6
    270x7

    SLDL
    135x10
    225x6
    225x5

    Lying Leg Curls
    150x8
    165x8
    150x8

    BB Curl
    100x6
    100x6
    100x6

    Ab Machine
    210x6
    210x6
    210x6

    Ab Leg Raise Machine
    120x6
    120x6
    120x6

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    Not a great workout, but got better as it went along. Full feeling from all the carbs makes things a little harder while working out.

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    Why is there an april 21st deadline? competing?
    Optimum Sports Performance

    "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few."
    -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

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    Not officially competing (maybe someday, gotta long way to go)

    But I am competing against myself and this online competition.

    Last time I was this weight was after my first year of University, can you say fat bastard, went from 205 to 230+. So I am mainly doing this for myself, to educate me about my bodies reactions and a sense of pride

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    Originally posted by IainDaniel
    Not a great workout, but got better as it went along. Full feeling from all the carbs makes things a little harder while working out.
    Well your not suppose to stuff yourself silly

    Just eat til your satisfied on high carb days. Not to the point that your full



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    Full= satisfied

    Actually after the first few high carb meals I felt fine. It was that last one, I switched up the Rice with Whole Wheat Pasta mixed into my chili. I ate alot but didn't feel full. I was just bloated by the time I went to workout.

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    Looking good. Good news about your BF! That's awesome. And if 230=fat bastart, what was I? (275)
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    looking good IAD...cant wait to see your pics on the 31st

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    Thanks J'Bo!

    Time to trim the fat

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    Well, I just had my two upper Wisdom teeth removed. Must say that is nothing compared to what I thought it would be.

    My mouth is frozen :neutral:

    Drinking water is th weirdest feeling

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    Eating my cottage Cheese was even more interesting

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    Proposed Meals Low Carb 02/18

    Meal 1
    2 scoops ON
    1 cup Oat Bran
    1/3cup Fibre one
    Fish
    Berries

    P 58 C 80 F 14

    Meal 2
    1.5 Cups 1% CC
    Stevia
    Cinnamon

    P 42 c 9 F 3

    Meal 3
    8 oz Pork Tenderloin
    1 cup Romaine
    ACV
    Fish oil

    P 48 C trace F 13

    Meal 4
    1.5 Tuna
    Flax
    ACV
    1 cup Romaine

    P 44 C 3 F 10

    Meal 5
    Chicken
    Rice
    Broccoli
    1/2 Apple
    Fish oil

    P 58 C 75 F 14

    Meal 6
    2 scoops ON
    .75 cup oats
    1/2 Apple

    P 64 C 77 F 12

    Totals
    P 314 C 241 F 66
    Cals 2800

    OK ?

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