Just Building Mass Journal (Well atleast attempting to)

I'm Trying · 02-17-2004, 06:17 PM

Well here is my new log. I'll start out with my supps first.

Wake Up...
400mg Calcium
1000mg Vitamin C
Vit E 400mg
Max Muscle Max EFA (900mg Flax Seed oil. 400mg Wheat germ oil, 300 MG CLA, and 400mg EPO, 400mg Borage Seed Oil.)
Beverly International Multipak Daily Vitamin
Beverly International Joint Care

Pre Workout
Glyco Load (ON)
about 23g protein
Swole V2

Post Workout
BCAA 1000 (ON) 6 tabs
400mg Calcium
1000mg Vit C
400iu Vit E
Plus Post Workout Shake

Lunch
Beverly International Joint Care

Dinner
Max Muscle Max EFA (900mg Flax Seed oil. 400mg Wheat germ oil, 300 MG CLA, and 400mg EPO, 400mg Borage Seed Oil.)

Before bed
ZMA

If I need to add anything please let me know.
Thanks Alot!!

I'm Trying · 02-17-2004, 07:01 PM

Here is my sample diet please yet again feel free to critique I need to possibly add more items but need some ideas, so if you can give me some tips please.

Meal One
Pancakes (1 cup oats, 10 egg whites, 1 yolk)
1 med. apple

Meal Two (postworkout)
Post workout shake (433 Calories, 4g fat, 50g carbs, 58 protein)
and Glutamine

Meal Three
7oz Chicken Breast
2 Med Potatoes
Large Salad (w/ Celery and Mushrooms)
Med. Apple

Meal Four
7oz Chicken Breast
2 Med Potatoes
Med Apple

Meal Five
5 oz Chicken Breast
Large Salad
1oz Dry roasted shelled p-nuts (no salt)

Meal Six
Protein Drink.
(25g Protein and Glutamine)
Well this calculated was about 3100 calories, 53g fat (16%)
326g Carbs (37%) and 347g Protein (47%). My goal is 20/40/40 with about 3500 calories possibly bumping up to 4000 within the next month depending how this goes. I'm trying to eat as little sugar as possible (except what occurs naturally) and low sodium.
Well please give me any tips you may have.
Thanks again!!

PreMier · 02-17-2004, 07:09 PM

I would move the Swole V2 to POST workout. Try and consume it within 10 mins of finishing. Remember not to pre mix it in liquid because creatine isnt stable in liquid form. And drink shake within 20-30. I would also move the BCAA's. Maybe take 3 post workout and 3 before bed, or all before bed.

I'm Trying · 02-17-2004, 07:18 PM

M-kay. That sounds good to me. Haven't used swole yet. Is it a two times a day supp?? Still awaiting my shipment of supps from 1fast400.

thanks PM!!

PreMier · 02-17-2004, 07:20 PM

I take it once a day, but I use 2 scoops instead of one.

I'm Trying · 02-17-2004, 07:28 PM

Hey PM do you have any advise on my diet?? I'll be subsituting proteins and carbs in and out but overall how does it look??
Thanks!!

PreMier · 02-17-2004, 07:47 PM

Well, I am not too diet savy... Looks clean so you wont gain a bunch of fat so thats good. Sorry I cant help you more, I am not very well educated in the diet area yet

Gary(gwacaton?) or Atherjen(Jen) will probably be of more help.

**P-funk** · 02-17-2004, 07:50 PM

With only 5 meals are you eating every 4 hours? I would add another meal in there. How long before bedtime is dinner? You may nees something in you before you hit the sack to try and stay anabolic while you sleep. I like cottage cheese (1lb before bed everynight)

PreMier · 02-17-2004, 07:54 PM

I eat about 2 cups before bed... A Lb sounds like a shit load of cottage cheese! lol

**P-funk** · 02-17-2004, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PreMier
I eat about 2 cups before bed... A Lb sounds like a shit load of cottage cheese! lol

yeah, that is when I am dieting

gwcaton · 02-17-2004, 09:30 PM

I'm,

your break down of nutrients is real close to mine . Your calories are about 900 more than mine but if you are bulking you need more.

I am not that educated in regards to diet , The success I have had I get from the BFFM manual and occasional input from others here on IM .

If I'm not mistaken the principles in the BFFM manual could be used for bulking , just would require you to go hypo-caloric instead of calorie deficit.

Of course if you can get Jen to chime in then you would be set. There are others here who know their stuff but Jen seems to be the one sharing the most.

Good luck !

I'm Trying · 02-18-2004, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gwcaton
I'm,

your break down of nutrients is real close to mine . Your calories are about 900 more than mine but if you are bulking you need more.

I am not that educated in regards to diet , The success I have had I get from the BFFM manual and occasional input from others here on IM .

If I'm not mistaken the principles in the BFFM manual could be used for bulking , just would require you to go hypo-caloric instead of calorie deficit.

Of course if you can get Jen to chime in then you would be set. There are others here who know their stuff but Jen seems to be the one sharing the most.

Good luck !

What is the BFFM Gary and do you have the link or have you given it to me before?? Yeah I'm not up there yet as far as diets but I'm trying to educate myself to get there.
Thanks!!

I'm Trying · 02-18-2004, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by P-funk
With only 5 meals are you eating every 4 hours? I would add another meal in there. How long before bedtime is dinner? You may nees something in you before you hit the sack to try and stay anabolic while you sleep. I like cottage cheese (1lb before bed everynight)

Hey P-Funk thanks for stopping By!! Well dinner is about 5 hrs before I go to bed. I know I need to tweak my diet a little(or alot). I would appriciate any information I can get from people and advise also. If you could make some recommendations it would be well appriciated!!
Thanks Alot!!

gwcaton · 02-18-2004, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by I'm Trying
What is the BFFM Gary and do you have the link or have you given it to me before?? Yeah I'm not up there yet as far as diets but I'm trying to educate myself to get there.
Thanks!!

You are an Elite member so you have access to the free ebooks.
go here then click on the link at the top of the page that says DOWNLOAD 16 EBOOKS , tHERE ARE AT LEAST 3 EBOOKS THER IN RE: MASS .

Hmmmm I didn't see the burn the fat feed the muscle ebook. maybe that was something separate or limited time offer . Also on this page there is a offer for a free ebook that might come in handy later. It is on the left hand side under FREE NEWSLETTER.

*** eDIT*** THE bffm IS A SEPARATE DEAL, Sorry but I feel it is worth the price. was to me anyway here is the link

I'm Trying · 02-19-2004, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PreMier
I would move the Swole V2 to POST workout. Try and consume it within 10 mins of finishing. Remember not to pre mix it in liquid because creatine isnt stable in liquid form. And drink shake within 20-30. I would also move the BCAA's. Maybe take 3 post workout and 3 before bed, or all before bed.

Do I just sccop the swole into my mouth then??

gwcaton · 02-19-2004, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PreMier
I would move the Swole V2 to POST workout. Try and consume it within 10 mins of finishing. Remember not to pre mix it in liquid because creatine isnt stable in liquid form.

I don't think thats what he means. Go ahead an dmix it with water . Just don't mix it like 10 - 15 minutes before you plan on drinking it

PreMier · 02-19-2004, 08:08 PM

Yea, Gary is right. Just scoop the powder into a shaker. Then once your done working out mix and drink.

I'm Trying · 02-19-2004, 08:57 PM

I do that normally anyways. I never let it sit. Sorry for the confusion.

gwcaton · 02-22-2004, 07:47 AM

I just noticed this:

Quote:

Location: Just Call Me Matthew

Been wondering what your name is .

So... Matthew, Have you officially started your bulk yet ? Haven't seen any diet and workout posted here yet. I think I am anxiuos to see your results as you are as I will probably try for some size as soon as I lose the fat I want to lose.

Gary

I'm Trying · 02-22-2004, 01:14 PM

Gary,
I will start tomorrow(Monday). I'm still tweaking a little bit and I still need to get some adj DB's still. I want to go check Play it Again SPorts and see what they have and maybe trade in what I have and see what I can get.(Don't know if it would be worth it though

)
Thanks!!

I'm Trying · 02-22-2004, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gwcaton
I just noticed this: Been wondering what your name is .

So... Matthew, Have you officially started your bulk yet ? Haven't seen any diet and workout posted here yet. I think I am anxiuos to see your results as you are as I will probably try for some size as soon as I lose the fat I want to lose.

Gary

Just ebing cautious before I threw my name out there. I now know everyone here is a great bunch of people almost like friends so I figure I might as well share my name.
THanks!!

gwcaton · 02-22-2004, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by I'm Trying
Gary,
I will start tomorrow(Monday). I'm still tweaking a little bit and I still need to get some adj DB's still. I want to go check Play it Again SPorts and see what they have and maybe trade in what I have and see what I can get.(Don't know if it would be worth it though

)
Thanks!!

I thought I read that somewhere but wasn't sure. I bet you do great ! Good Luck !

I'm Trying · 02-23-2004, 04:52 PM

Well today is the start of bulking.
Height: 5'11.5"
Weight: 186
Body Fat: 14%

For now on I'll be posting everything in this journal for now in.
Thanks!!

PreMier · 02-23-2004, 04:53 PM

Hey IT, good luck buddy

02-17-2004, 06:17 PM	#1
I'm Trying Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,574	Just Building Mass Journal (Well atleast attempting to) BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Well here is my new log. I'll start out with my supps first. Wake Up... 400mg Calcium 1000mg Vitamin C Vit E 400mg Max Muscle Max EFA (900mg Flax Seed oil. 400mg Wheat germ oil, 300 MG CLA, and 400mg EPO, 400mg Borage Seed Oil.) Beverly International Multipak Daily Vitamin Beverly International Joint Care Pre Workout Glyco Load (ON) about 23g protein Swole V2 Post Workout BCAA 1000 (ON) 6 tabs 400mg Calcium 1000mg Vit C 400iu Vit E Plus Post Workout Shake Lunch Beverly International Joint Care Dinner Max Muscle Max EFA (900mg Flax Seed oil. 400mg Wheat germ oil, 300 MG CLA, and 400mg EPO, 400mg Borage Seed Oil.) Before bed ZMA If I need to add anything please let me know. Thanks Alot!!
	The beatings will continue until morale improves!! Personal Goal: I WILL be playing "C" tournament ball next year!!! Training Moderator @softballfans My New Journal!!!! Age: 29 \| Height: 5'11.5" \| Weight: 198 lbs BF% ? Bests: Bench:? \| Squat: ? \| Deads: ? Goals: Bench: 235 \| Squat: 250 \| Deadlift: 300

02-17-2004, 07:01 PM	#2
I'm Trying Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,574	Diet Here is my sample diet please yet again feel free to critique I need to possibly add more items but need some ideas, so if you can give me some tips please. Meal One Pancakes (1 cup oats, 10 egg whites, 1 yolk) 1 med. apple Meal Two (postworkout) Post workout shake (433 Calories, 4g fat, 50g carbs, 58 protein) and Glutamine Meal Three 7oz Chicken Breast 2 Med Potatoes Large Salad (w/ Celery and Mushrooms) Med. Apple Meal Four 7oz Chicken Breast 2 Med Potatoes Med Apple Meal Five 5 oz Chicken Breast Large Salad 1oz Dry roasted shelled p-nuts (no salt) Meal Six Protein Drink. (25g Protein and Glutamine) Well this calculated was about 3100 calories, 53g fat (16%) 326g Carbs (37%) and 347g Protein (47%). My goal is 20/40/40 with about 3500 calories possibly bumping up to 4000 within the next month depending how this goes. I'm trying to eat as little sugar as possible (except what occurs naturally) and low sodium. Well please give me any tips you may have. Thanks again!! Last edited by I'm Trying : 02-18-2004 at 08:41 AM.
	The beatings will continue until morale improves!! Personal Goal: I WILL be playing "C" tournament ball next year!!! Training Moderator @softballfans My New Journal!!!! Age: 29 \| Height: 5'11.5" \| Weight: 198 lbs BF% ? Bests: Bench:? \| Squat: ? \| Deads: ? Goals: Bench: 235 \| Squat: 250 \| Deadlift: 300

02-17-2004, 07:09 PM	#3
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,999 Photos: 1	I would move the Swole V2 to POST workout. Try and consume it within 10 mins of finishing. Remember not to pre mix it in liquid because creatine isnt stable in liquid form. And drink shake within 20-30. I would also move the BCAA's. Maybe take 3 post workout and 3 before bed, or all before bed.
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

02-17-2004, 07:18 PM	#4
I'm Trying Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,574	M-kay. That sounds good to me. Haven't used swole yet. Is it a two times a day supp?? Still awaiting my shipment of supps from 1fast400. thanks PM!!
	The beatings will continue until morale improves!! Personal Goal: I WILL be playing "C" tournament ball next year!!! Training Moderator @softballfans My New Journal!!!! Age: 29 \| Height: 5'11.5" \| Weight: 198 lbs BF% ? Bests: Bench:? \| Squat: ? \| Deads: ? Goals: Bench: 235 \| Squat: 250 \| Deadlift: 300

02-17-2004, 07:20 PM	#5
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,999 Photos: 1	I take it once a day, but I use 2 scoops instead of one.
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

02-17-2004, 07:28 PM	#6
I'm Trying Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,574	Hey PM do you have any advise on my diet?? I'll be subsituting proteins and carbs in and out but overall how does it look?? Thanks!!
	The beatings will continue until morale improves!! Personal Goal: I WILL be playing "C" tournament ball next year!!! Training Moderator @softballfans My New Journal!!!! Age: 29 \| Height: 5'11.5" \| Weight: 198 lbs BF% ? Bests: Bench:? \| Squat: ? \| Deads: ? Goals: Bench: 235 \| Squat: 250 \| Deadlift: 300

02-17-2004, 07:47 PM	#7
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,999 Photos: 1	Well, I am not too diet savy... Looks clean so you wont gain a bunch of fat so thats good. Sorry I cant help you more, I am not very well educated in the diet area yet Gary(gwacaton?) or Atherjen(Jen) will probably be of more help.
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

02-17-2004, 07:50 PM	#8
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,136	With only 5 meals are you eating every 4 hours? I would add another meal in there. How long before bedtime is dinner? You may nees something in you before you hit the sack to try and stay anabolic while you sleep. I like cottage cheese (1lb before bed everynight)
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02-17-2004, 07:54 PM	#9
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,999 Photos: 1	I eat about 2 cups before bed... A Lb sounds like a shit load of cottage cheese! lol
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

02-17-2004, 09:30 PM	#11
gwcaton Lookin' for abs ! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: central missouri Posts: 9,271 Photos: 28	I'm, your break down of nutrients is real close to mine . Your calories are about 900 more than mine but if you are bulking you need more. I am not that educated in regards to diet , The success I have had I get from the BFFM manual and occasional input from others here on IM . If I'm not mistaken the principles in the BFFM manual could be used for bulking , just would require you to go hypo-caloric instead of calorie deficit. Of course if you can get Jen to chime in then you would be set. There are others here who know their stuff but Jen seems to be the one sharing the most. Good luck !
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02-19-2004, 08:08 PM	#17
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,999 Photos: 1	Yea, Gary is right. Just scoop the powder into a shaker. Then once your done working out mix and drink.
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

02-19-2004, 08:57 PM	#18
I'm Trying Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,574	I do that normally anyways. I never let it sit. Sorry for the confusion.
	The beatings will continue until morale improves!! Personal Goal: I WILL be playing "C" tournament ball next year!!! Training Moderator @softballfans My New Journal!!!! Age: 29 \| Height: 5'11.5" \| Weight: 198 lbs BF% ? Bests: Bench:? \| Squat: ? \| Deads: ? Goals: Bench: 235 \| Squat: 250 \| Deadlift: 300

02-22-2004, 01:14 PM	#20
I'm Trying Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,574	Gary, I will start tomorrow(Monday). I'm still tweaking a little bit and I still need to get some adj DB's still. I want to go check Play it Again SPorts and see what they have and maybe trade in what I have and see what I can get.(Don't know if it would be worth it though ) Thanks!!
	The beatings will continue until morale improves!! Personal Goal: I WILL be playing "C" tournament ball next year!!! Training Moderator @softballfans My New Journal!!!! Age: 29 \| Height: 5'11.5" \| Weight: 198 lbs BF% ? Bests: Bench:? \| Squat: ? \| Deads: ? Goals: Bench: 235 \| Squat: 250 \| Deadlift: 300

02-23-2004, 04:52 PM	#23
I'm Trying Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,574	Today is the Day!! Well today is the start of bulking. Height: 5'11.5" Weight: 186 Body Fat: 14% For now on I'll be posting everything in this journal for now in. Thanks!!
	The beatings will continue until morale improves!! Personal Goal: I WILL be playing "C" tournament ball next year!!! Training Moderator @softballfans My New Journal!!!! Age: 29 \| Height: 5'11.5" \| Weight: 198 lbs BF% ? Bests: Bench:? \| Squat: ? \| Deads: ? Goals: Bench: 235 \| Squat: 250 \| Deadlift: 300

02-23-2004, 04:53 PM	#24
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 20,999 Photos: 1	Hey IT, good luck buddy