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    I'm coming back...

    I'm sure alot of you are aware of what I was going through from improper post cycle protocols that were not followed. I suffered severe deperssion, lack of motivation, in ability to digest the food i was consuming. Plainly put I was a mess. Now since getting my hcg, clomid, nolvadex I am making a slow come back. Depression is not as bad and things look like they are leveling out. The rest of this year is going to be a no joke no holds barred approach to being a top level competitor in 2005 where I will make my mark. I'm about 200 lbs flat sloppy and wanting to that yearning back to be where I was. I have learned about my self during this time both phyiscal as well as mentally. I will update journal occasionally . Right now i want to get levels back in check then the fun will start. J'bo I will see you in july and trust me you will not recongize me...

    this is what happened

    I finished my last shot of fina and winny 4 weeks before the show to dry out from all drugs. After the contest I wa fine and looking awesome and then about 4 weeks after the contest I started to develop a gut (which I never get), and also I started getting hurt and my strength was dropping each week and this never happens. At the time I was dealing with alot of stress from work and life, then to top it all off the holidays were coming and there was a stressor right there, after thanksgiving I started to slip and get sick and couldn't deuce at all. Doctors thought IBS so i went under colonscopy to ck and nothing so they stuck me on laxatives and paxil and sent me on my way.. Here all alone my esteogen levels where high = low test= high cortiosol- low thyroid=low bp/hr= severe depression. got test back from doctor and test levels were at 234 total and lh and tsh where both low. He wanted to put me on androgel but i told him NO becuase that is not curing the problem and then he is sending me to an endocronologist, but in reality I should be seeing a urologist. Now i am on 50 mgs clomid a day, 6 tribex, 1 mg armidex, and its just a wating game now to see if everything is going to kick in. SO I feel for you and know what you are going thorugh



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    Hey sweetie! Missed you, I am looking forward to following this journal and I am so happy you are starting to feel better

    *hugs* I need to make my comeback too!! Summer is coming!!!

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    summer time we will be ready...

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    HEY SWEETIE, I HAD NOOOOOOO IDEA!!!! I'm sorry to hear what happened to you.

    Let me know hon if there is anything I can do

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    Details suggestions, sock it to me I need PROGRESS!

    but I also need to be ok mentally so I am working on both, but trying not to have too strict a diet

    In the summer you have to come down and we can go chill at the beach Maybe then I will finally see those pics 1 yr later haha!

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    read the link I sent you.. I think you need to talk to a may be a psychologist or counselor about self esteem, becuae let me tell you depression almost killed me (NOT JOKING EITHER)

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    ouch, no good sweetie im so sorry

    I am starting therapy soon to help me control my stress!

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    Originally posted by hardasnails1973
    read the link I sent you.. I think you need to talk to a may be a psychologist or counselor about self esteem, becuae let me tell you depression almost killed me (NOT JOKING EITHER)

    This is so true.

    I have an appt on the 15th of next month. I'm so torn from the inside out......hard to explain.
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    **HUGS** babsie, seems like a lot of us are going through tough times but we will get through them together

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    Thanks Darlin

    Have a nice weekend EVERYONE
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    its amazing how many of us create such a strong exterior but only to hide the frail and brittle person on the inside.

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    Isn't it
    Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF
    Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have.

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    Hi HAN-hun

    I'm sorry for all that you have been through but I have no doubt you will come out on top of all this and realize your dreams..

    Are you still doing Body Rock? When is it again?

    I'm looking forward to seeing you get back into this!

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    body rock is in july. one week prior j'bos contest...
    i have game plan for once body is back on track figure by april
    gh 4 ius a day straight through t-3- 25 mcgs

    Diet for first 6 weeks will be same as GP had me do before
    4500 caloires 45%p 30% f 25% carbs


    week 1-6
    750 mgs sus
    400 mgs eq
    1 anadrol a day - first 4 weeks
    hcg 500 ius 2 times a week
    1 mg armidex a day

    week 7-12
    100 mgs fina/ 100 mgs prop EOD
    50 mg winny a day
    1 armidex a day
    500 HCG 2 times a week

    week 13-15
    40 mgs nolvedex a day
    15-17
    clomid 100 mgs/day


    did you think I was kidding around ? LOL

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    Originally posted by hardasnails1973
    its amazing how many of us create such a strong exterior but only to hide the frail and brittle person on the inside.
    Im stealing this...
    P-side Inc.

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    just take a look at majority of fitness and bodybuilder competiitors, they got into weight training for improving self esteem, but really they where just masking it the whole time. People only look at the phyiscal appeanace of the sport , but do they ever analysis the mental side of the sport as thorughly

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    Your absolutely correct. I for one can attest to this.
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    i can attest to this too andnt afraid to admit i got into weight training for all the wrong reason and it ended up being an obsession rather then a passion. I came to a coonclusion that if what we do seems to be more like a job its time to take a step back and take a good look at our selves and reexamine situtation

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    this is why i am almost reluctantly letting myself eat things i didnt before and trying not to be too uptight, i got too obsessed and it got me nowhere except fat, yet if i was happy i mightve hit goal already... damn i wanna hit up some thermos tho!!!!

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    Just have to geet thorugh the rest of this depression and i will be home free and on my way to full recovery

    leg workout
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    stiff legged dead lifts off bench
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    hi sweetie, stay strong, your time is coming ***HUGS***

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    Originally posted by hardasnails1973
    just take a look at majority of fitness and bodybuilder competiitors, they got into weight training for improving self esteem, but really they where just masking it the whole time. People only look at the phyiscal appeanace of the sport , but do they ever analysis the mental side of the sport as thorughly
    I am glad that you said the Majority here HAN. I have to disagree with you if you believe everyone is. Some are just humble and dont like to brag about their accomplishments.

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    Well one young lady taught me well to watch things I say so I don;t stick foot in my mouth


    I am going to see a chinse dr to see if they can heklp with my problem

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    Hey hon,

    Wanted to stop in to see how you're doing. So?
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    i hope you'll be feeling your best ever - mentally, physically and spiritually before long.
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    If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- 14th Dalai Lama

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    Just when you think things are all better it comes back again. I talked to the chinese lady and she said I should be cleared up very fast becuase its only been a few months..So that eased my conscious

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    Aww sweetie, I'm sorry. She's right, it'll clear up very fast!! You'll be back in no time flat hon.

    Hang in there. We're here darlin.

    PM me if you need a shoulder.
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    My diet is going well. but my body has backed things up again and I don;t know why. I am gettting very spacey and very tired ( probably from the toxins that are being released in to my blood stream from not excreting the food I have been eating)

    Diet

    1 cup oatmeal
    12 egg whites
    1 TBSP FLAX
    2 sans loaded

    6 oz chicken grounded up in a food processer
    chicken brooth
    1 cup veggies
    1 TBSP flax seeds
    1 TBSP olive oil
    8 oz yam

    1.5 can tuna fish
    1/2 cup of kidney beans
    green salad
    1 TBSP olive oil

    repeat meal 2

    pre workout
    30 grams whey isolate
    10 glutmeine
    5 grams bcaas

    post work
    50 grams whey
    1 scoop glycoload
    10 grams glutemine
    8 grams BCAAS
    2 SANS loaded

    with in and hour of working out
    12 egg whites
    3/4 cup creame of rice

    before bed
    6 oz ground turkey
    1 TBSP FLAX
    1 cup veggies

    non training days drop to 6 meals knock out pre/post workout meals


    salsa

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    What do you recommend post-workout for someone trying to gain mass?

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    What kind of veggies are you eating hon? May want to just stick to romaine lettuce for a few days to get things going..

    Any other veggies give me problems for days!

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