Breaking Bad Habits...

Stacey · 03-29-2004, 01:10 PM

well My Binging is having M&M's..and then some crackers, and then some pretzels, then a few more M&M's... Or jelly beans or whatever.

If I'm at my moms-- I will eat a lot of candy, (skittles), And Chips. (I only let myself go there once a week)

Theres more too..just having a brain fart right now!!!

JLB001 · 03-29-2004, 01:11 PM

See to me that is just cheating, not really a binge.

jstar · 03-29-2004, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by JLB001
I have a question...what is it that you guys determine as a binge?
I don't mean to sound stupid, just trying to understand ya'lls term of it. Is it eatting one thing of something that is not on the planned meal for the day or the whole container/bag of the item at one time?

I am too embarrassed to tell ya all I ate yesterday and the day before. Not to mention I can't remember!

A binge to me isn't just a cheat meal but an out of control feast! Much like how a bulimic stuffs themself and then

except I don't do that. It is a real bad problem because I cheat then just go crazy with gluttony and eat everything I am not supposed to. I guess some people are not as out of control as I am but that's my definition.

JLB001 · 03-29-2004, 01:24 PM

ok...that is what I needed to understand. Sometimes a cheat food can be called a binge in some people's eyes. Your understanding of a binge is what I thought was a binge. I haven't had any eatting disorders, so I wanted to be clear on what everyones term was for binge.

Stacey · 03-29-2004, 01:24 PM

or I will bake cookies and eat a ton!!! Or I will eat my dinner- and be Full--but then go in the kitchen for sweet food...and it goes down from there..I keep going back. I'm getting better at not buying the foods I binge on though!!!

JLB001 · 03-29-2004, 01:25 PM

Stacey...a ton to you would be 3? A ton to me is half the batch at one time. (psst...don't come to my house on scheduled cheat days..cuz I do eat about 12 of them)

And I make everyone else join in.

Stacey · 03-29-2004, 01:26 PM

Ya I'm EXACTLY Like JSTAR on the bingeing.. the way she described it.

JLB001 · 03-29-2004, 01:27 PM

ahh....I see.

Stacey · 03-29-2004, 01:28 PM

& now I have a new problem that I don't even want to admit..its real bad!!!!

Stacey · 03-29-2004, 01:30 PM

Jodie-- well when I make homemade cookies--I pretty much eat them all except for a baggie full that the hubby takes to work. I will make the dough, eat a crapload of that to where my tummmmy hurts...then eat like 4 cookies after that. Not good-then eat more the next day b/c I already did the damage..and eat another 3-4 the next day.

I haven't made cookies in weeks do to this!!!

JLB001 · 03-29-2004, 01:32 PM

The way cookies are done here, I mix them up, eat about 4 spoonfuls of dough, bake them, eat 6 or 7 off the pan, then wrap them up and take them out of the apt. that same day. That way I can't reheat in the micro the next day. Plus Craig would eat the remmaining left on the plate if they were still in the house. He has to finish everything off for some reaosn.

jstar · 03-29-2004, 01:35 PM

Hey Stacey,

Yep it sounds like the same thing I do. I think maybe it would be best if you just don't buy it in the first place. Unfortunately as long as I am living here I cannot help but be surrounded by these foods. Once I do move out I feel confident I can get it under control.

atherjen · 03-29-2004, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by jstar
Stacey, Jen, Jill...thank you all so much

. Your words mean more to me than I can describe.

I just got back from seeing the condo with my mom and my boyfriend (who is going to live their w/me). I liked it, he liked it and she didn't. The only bad thing I could see wrong with it was that it is kinda a hike to the highway and it would be a long way to work so that is the only real reason I had reservations about it. The place had a lot going for it. 2 large bedrooms, new appliances (all staying) low condo fee and low price. It was quite spacious and nice. I sort of got pissy at my mom in the car on the way back because she didn't like it and was trying to talk me out of it. After thinking about it some more I realized I would probably get sick of the commute so I am still gonna keep looking. I have a family friend who is a real estate agent and I am meeting him on Saturday to talk about what I am looking for, hopefully a little closer to the highway. I have impulsive tendecies and I am very eager to move out but I don't want to get all fired up about a place and then realize it wasn't sooo great. Better to take my time and see what's out there I guess. Ridicolous as it sounds part of me really wants to just move out ASAP just so I can get my eating habits under control! But I must keep telling myself: take your time, find the right place.

Jen - I didn't even think about the whey being a semi processed food. Yeah I am all for ditching all the unnecessary, artificial crap out of my diet and turning to all natural foods. I am just kidding myself here thinking that I can be healthy without drinking water (only when I workout) and guzzling diet soda all day. Not to mention all the sodium and artificially sweetned things I eat. This is NOT doing me any good. You have excellent eating habits, I am gonna need some help figuring out a new meal plan if you don't mind.

I can totally relate, I tend to jump to final decisions sometimes too.. welll I know I did when it came to getting my apartment, all I could think of was getting away from home and having my own place, yadda yadda. I took the first one I looked at-the one I have now-and I abolsutly hate it and have since a week after living here. ha, weird but Im trying to sublease and move home at the end of April. take your time and find something that you know you will love. so that the first time you see it your like "omg this is it" !

no hesitations.

I dont mind at all hun, Im always here to help and I only want to see you suceed in your goals and optimal health!

lemme know when you need anything! Im just a PM away!

hope your having a great day at your new job!!

Stacey · 03-29-2004, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jstar
Hey Stacey,

Yep it sounds like the same thing I do. I think maybe it would be best if you just don't buy it in the first place. Unfortunately as long as I am living here I cannot help but be surrounded by these foods. Once I do move out I feel confident I can get it under control.

PM Me sweetie.. I don't know if we are talking about the same thing..its what I had issues with last week??!!

jstar · 03-30-2004, 12:02 PM

Thanks Jen! Stace - I must be confused

I will PM u both tonight when I get home!

Gotta be quick here:

I am here at work, things are ok. Ohhh I bought a digi cam last night and took some pics I will try to post em up tonight. BEFORE pics, ugh!

My head is in a spin, I am on day one no caffeine, pls forgive me! I am happy to be getting off this stuff. I am sitting here with my water bottle, ahhhhhh.

Gonna go for cardio tonight

atherjen · 03-30-2004, 03:27 PM

pics! YAY!!

I wish I had a digi cam!
cant wait girlie!!

haha that feeling will pass. I have been caffiene free for a lil while now. the first few days are ruff but I actaully feel better without!

have fun with cardio!

Stacey · 03-30-2004, 03:32 PM

Hey! I'm glad things are going gooood with ya at the new job!

Oh I was being retarded yesterday... ignore that comment..

greekblondechic · 03-30-2004, 04:37 PM

hey girl! posting before pics is a tough thing to do. when i posted mine i cried for two days. but finally i realized.. its OK.. that's me at my worst and its not like im 300lbs. it takes guts, but it's good to have pics to see your progress. especially for us ladies who may get frustrated if we dont think we see changes..and then go binge out of frustration!!!!

Jill · 03-30-2004, 05:12 PM

I wont post my fat pics till im skinny-er!

hikerchick · 03-30-2004, 08:19 PM

Hi jstar! I'm so glad I finally had a chance to catch up on your journal.

I can relate to the binging, although I guess in my case I would call it excessive cheating

Seriously though, what I would do is eat perfectly for about 3-5 days then go on an ice cream binge. I would feel so horrible about it that I would again eat perfectly for about 4-5 days. Bad cycle. I was/am definitely too hard on myself and am in the process of making positive changes.

I am definitely an all or nothing person. So, for me giving up sugar was a must. If I allow myself a little of it I want ALL of it. I'm like Jodies husband, I have to finish something off so it's not there to cheat with the next day. Where this thinking started I don't know. I feel like I'm definitely on the right path now, finally. I'm still struggling with doing the same type of overeating with other carbs. I work out a lot (like everyone else here

) so I always justify that I will work it off. I maintain the weight that I'm at but never make improvements and I'm so tired of that. I swear it's harder to lose 5 pounds than anything else for me. I'm still doing the IM contest but not to win, just for me. I don't care if I do better than anyone else, right now it's more of a mental journey for me. One of the reasons why I haven't been posting in my journal (other than I only get on here at night) is that I get so obsessive about food that I think I need a break for awhile. I'm eating well and always get my workouts in, but I'm trying to be a little more relaxed about it. Sorry to have diarrhea of the mouth in your journal, I just wanted you to know that you are not alone. I feel for what you are going through. You can do anything you put your mind to.

I am here to be your #1 supporter!

Jill · 03-30-2004, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by hikerchick

I am definitely an all or nothing person. So, for me giving up sugar was a must. If I allow myself a little of it I want ALL of it. I'm like Jodies husband, I have to finish something off so it's not there to cheat with the next day. Where this thinking started I don't know.

I can totally relate to that Hiker. Great post

Stacey · 03-31-2004, 08:00 AM

Awesome Post Hiker! I am like you when it comes to maintaining the weight I'm at..but I want to lose JUST 5lbs. It just won't come off.

HI JSTAR

jstar · 03-31-2004, 10:06 AM

Hello lovely ladies!
I am sneaking on again :shh:

I didn't have time to post my pics but I will as soon as I get a chance (and figure out how to do it). They have been taken and I don't think they are too bad but I want to get into contest shape. I may do a May 15th show if I feel ready, we'll see. I will let everyone here comment and tell me when the time comes. I love my digital camera!

I will post my diet from yesterday too but that will have to wait b/c I don't have it here in front of me. I did 1 hr of cardio on the elliptical and it felt great. It took a lot for me to force myself to do it but I did it. I am on day 2 no caffeine - just water - wooohooo. The headache today is FAR duller than yesterday. I was SO tired last night I went to bed at 9:30 which is VERY earlier for me. No doubt it was the withdrawals making me loopy and tired all day.

Hiker - you are SO sweet. I loved your post hun and I will ck out your journal and PM you this weekend.

gotta go- ooops!

JLB001 · 03-31-2004, 10:53 AM

jstar · 03-31-2004, 12:28 PM

Hi Jodie! How goes it? I can't play on IM too much with this new job

crap my headache is back

atherjen · 03-31-2004, 01:54 PM

more water missy!! that will help the headaches. try getting some naturally decafinated herbal teas. I sweeten mine with stevia. they are a blessing!! and realy help with cravings for me(and caffiene).

a show May 15th!! wayhhoo!!!

cant wait to see those pics hunniebuns!

jstar · 03-31-2004, 02:13 PM

I'm on my 3rd liter AJ. I was fine all day but I think staring at this PC screen all day isn't helping either!

Yep - maybe!!! I am going to order a suit soon. Red panne velevet. What do you think of this style? #232 and #233 http://www.bodytecfitness.com/2PcDecorated.html

I might get top style #222 or one with push up pads. I need em!

03-29-2004, 01:10 PM	#181
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,585 Photos: 23	BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com well My Binging is having M&M's..and then some crackers, and then some pretzels, then a few more M&M's... Or jelly beans or whatever. If I'm at my moms-- I will eat a lot of candy, (skittles), And Chips. (I only let myself go there once a week) Theres more too..just having a brain fart right now!!!

03-29-2004, 01:11 PM	#182
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	See to me that is just cheating, not really a binge.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

03-29-2004, 01:24 PM	#184
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	ok...that is what I needed to understand. Sometimes a cheat food can be called a binge in some people's eyes. Your understanding of a binge is what I thought was a binge. I haven't had any eatting disorders, so I wanted to be clear on what everyones term was for binge.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

03-29-2004, 01:25 PM	#186
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	Stacey...a ton to you would be 3? A ton to me is half the batch at one time. (psst...don't come to my house on scheduled cheat days..cuz I do eat about 12 of them) And I make everyone else join in.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

03-29-2004, 01:27 PM	#188
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	ahh....I see.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

03-29-2004, 01:24 PM	#185
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,585 Photos: 23	or I will bake cookies and eat a ton!!! Or I will eat my dinner- and be Full--but then go in the kitchen for sweet food...and it goes down from there..I keep going back. I'm getting better at not buying the foods I binge on though!!!

03-29-2004, 01:26 PM	#187
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,585 Photos: 23	Ya I'm EXACTLY Like JSTAR on the bingeing.. the way she described it.

03-29-2004, 01:28 PM	#189
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,585 Photos: 23	& now I have a new problem that I don't even want to admit..its real bad!!!!

03-29-2004, 01:30 PM	#190
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,585 Photos: 23	Jodie-- well when I make homemade cookies--I pretty much eat them all except for a baggie full that the hubby takes to work. I will make the dough, eat a crapload of that to where my tummmmy hurts...then eat like 4 cookies after that. Not good-then eat more the next day b/c I already did the damage..and eat another 3-4 the next day. I haven't made cookies in weeks do to this!!!

03-29-2004, 01:32 PM	#191
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	The way cookies are done here, I mix them up, eat about 4 spoonfuls of dough, bake them, eat 6 or 7 off the pan, then wrap them up and take them out of the apt. that same day. That way I can't reheat in the micro the next day. Plus Craig would eat the remmaining left on the plate if they were still in the house. He has to finish everything off for some reaosn.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

03-29-2004, 01:35 PM	#192
jstar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1,332 Photos: 5	Hey Stacey, Yep it sounds like the same thing I do. I think maybe it would be best if you just don't buy it in the first place. Unfortunately as long as I am living here I cannot help but be surrounded by these foods. Once I do move out I feel confident I can get it under control.

03-30-2004, 12:02 PM	#195
jstar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1,332 Photos: 5	Thanks Jen! Stace - I must be confused I will PM u both tonight when I get home! Gotta be quick here: I am here at work, things are ok. Ohhh I bought a digi cam last night and took some pics I will try to post em up tonight. BEFORE pics, ugh! My head is in a spin, I am on day one no caffeine, pls forgive me! I am happy to be getting off this stuff. I am sitting here with my water bottle, ahhhhhh. Gonna go for cardio tonight

03-30-2004, 03:27 PM	#196
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	pics! YAY!! I wish I had a digi cam! cant wait girlie!! haha that feeling will pass. I have been caffiene free for a lil while now. the first few days are ruff but I actaully feel better without! have fun with cardio!
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

03-30-2004, 03:32 PM	#197
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,585 Photos: 23	Hey! I'm glad things are going gooood with ya at the new job! Oh I was being retarded yesterday... ignore that comment..

03-30-2004, 04:37 PM	#198
greekblondechic I'm special :) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 7,792	hey girl! posting before pics is a tough thing to do. when i posted mine i cried for two days. but finally i realized.. its OK.. that's me at my worst and its not like im 300lbs. it takes guts, but it's good to have pics to see your progress. especially for us ladies who may get frustrated if we dont think we see changes..and then go binge out of frustration!!!!

03-30-2004, 05:12 PM	#199
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	I wont post my fat pics till im skinny-er!

03-30-2004, 08:19 PM	#200
hikerchick Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Happy and Healthy Posts: 1,043	Hi jstar! I'm so glad I finally had a chance to catch up on your journal. I can relate to the binging, although I guess in my case I would call it excessive cheating Seriously though, what I would do is eat perfectly for about 3-5 days then go on an ice cream binge. I would feel so horrible about it that I would again eat perfectly for about 4-5 days. Bad cycle. I was/am definitely too hard on myself and am in the process of making positive changes. I am definitely an all or nothing person. So, for me giving up sugar was a must. If I allow myself a little of it I want ALL of it. I'm like Jodies husband, I have to finish something off so it's not there to cheat with the next day. Where this thinking started I don't know. I feel like I'm definitely on the right path now, finally. I'm still struggling with doing the same type of overeating with other carbs. I work out a lot (like everyone else here ) so I always justify that I will work it off. I maintain the weight that I'm at but never make improvements and I'm so tired of that. I swear it's harder to lose 5 pounds than anything else for me. I'm still doing the IM contest but not to win, just for me. I don't care if I do better than anyone else, right now it's more of a mental journey for me. One of the reasons why I haven't been posting in my journal (other than I only get on here at night) is that I get so obsessive about food that I think I need a break for awhile. I'm eating well and always get my workouts in, but I'm trying to be a little more relaxed about it. Sorry to have diarrhea of the mouth in your journal, I just wanted you to know that you are not alone. I feel for what you are going through. You can do anything you put your mind to. I am here to be your #1 supporter!
	We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is just a habit. - Socrates I am worth it!

03-31-2004, 08:00 AM	#202
Stacey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 10,585 Photos: 23	Awesome Post Hiker! I am like you when it comes to maintaining the weight I'm at..but I want to lose JUST 5lbs. It just won't come off. HI JSTAR

03-31-2004, 10:06 AM	#203
jstar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1,332 Photos: 5	Hello lovely ladies! I am sneaking on again :shh: I didn't have time to post my pics but I will as soon as I get a chance (and figure out how to do it). They have been taken and I don't think they are too bad but I want to get into contest shape. I may do a May 15th show if I feel ready, we'll see. I will let everyone here comment and tell me when the time comes. I love my digital camera! I will post my diet from yesterday too but that will have to wait b/c I don't have it here in front of me. I did 1 hr of cardio on the elliptical and it felt great. It took a lot for me to force myself to do it but I did it. I am on day 2 no caffeine - just water - wooohooo. The headache today is FAR duller than yesterday. I was SO tired last night I went to bed at 9:30 which is VERY earlier for me. No doubt it was the withdrawals making me loopy and tired all day. Hiker - you are SO sweet. I loved your post hun and I will ck out your journal and PM you this weekend. gotta go- ooops!

03-31-2004, 10:53 AM	#204
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

03-31-2004, 12:28 PM	#205
jstar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1,332 Photos: 5	Hi Jodie! How goes it? I can't play on IM too much with this new job crap my headache is back

03-31-2004, 01:54 PM	#206
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	more water missy!! that will help the headaches. try getting some naturally decafinated herbal teas. I sweeten mine with stevia. they are a blessing!! and realy help with cravings for me(and caffiene). a show May 15th!! wayhhoo!!! cant wait to see those pics hunniebuns!
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

03-31-2004, 02:13 PM	#207
jstar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1,332 Photos: 5	I'm on my 3rd liter AJ. I was fine all day but I think staring at this PC screen all day isn't helping either! Yep - maybe!!! I am going to order a suit soon. Red panne velevet. What do you think of this style? #232 and #233 http://www.bodytecfitness.com/2PcDecorated.html I might get top style #222 or one with push up pads. I need em!

03-31-2004, 02:19 PM	#208
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757