Taking Control 2

gwcaton · 04-04-2004, 07:26 AM

Morning Pretty Lady !

Jill · 04-04-2004, 11:02 AM

Hey Gary, how goes it??? Im sleepy today, lost an hour due to the time change!!

naturaltan · 04-04-2004, 11:05 AM

I hope it works out for you as well. Did talking to your friend help motivate you at all?

greekblondechic · 04-04-2004, 11:15 AM

I am starting to get a little skeptical of taking advice from BB's when I don't want to look like a BB. I want the figure/fitness look.

Jill · 04-04-2004, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by naturaltan
I hope it works out for you as well. Did talking to your friend help motivate you at all?

It was great seeing my old friend, so glad to be starting up our relationship again. She highly recommends the trainers-she was just fed up with measuring, loging, restricting. The 'weight' gain affected her a great deal, mainly MENTALLY. I can totally relate to her situation. She is still struggling with her weight, and is following a more balanced type of diet, weight watchers. She has accepted that she will never be 120 pounds, she actually is really inspiring to me.

I am still going to see the trainers wed-I need some advice from a pro. Im just going to stress that i dont want a DIET, i want some guidence and advice from a pro. I want their opinions of my macros, foods that i should really stay away from---skim milk and fruit? Some say they are a no, some say they are a go! Foods that are ideal for my sitautions, and my weight training of course.

I am really just confused mentally. I can not accept myself the way i am-my body type and the way i look. BUT, Im doing nothing major to change. I dont know If i have the will, or how bad i really want to be happy-er . I wish I could stop judging myself of my weight. Will I truly be happier with a smaller waist? Or a smaller # on the scale? Or will i always be struggling?

Jill · 04-04-2004, 11:42 AM

There are pictures of the trainers im going to see on page 4 of my journal, thanks to NT!

atherjen · 04-04-2004, 11:46 AM

Ohhh Jillybean keep your head up and think postive for me hun, even if that smile is hard to crack do it-because you are SO beautiful in and out, regardless of how you feel you look!

I truly hope that you are able to find the guidance that you seek with the trainers. let us know how it goes hun!

haha I woke up this morning and was like "damn I overslept" then I remembered the time change!

greekblondechic · 04-04-2004, 12:06 PM

Jillian.. Like I mentioned in my journal.. I am so physically uncomfortable in my own body that I simply can not be happy or accept it. It is like saying you must accept something constantly bothering you like a mosquito that never goes away. Ok bad analogy, but I think you get what I mean.

Jill · 04-04-2004, 12:40 PM

I totally get it greeky.

Jill · 04-04-2004, 08:42 PM

People, I think I have a problem-I AM ADDICTED TO SUGAR AAAAAAAAAAAA! I find if i have some, i crave it and look for it the the rest of the day- the worst thing is that I EAT IT TOO!!!!!!!!!! Its an all or nothing approach. I cant have a tiny bit of chocolate-insted I binge. So the easiest way to stop the cravings, I believe, is to just get rid IT them completely.

My goal, starting tomorrow is the elimate REAL sugar. I plan to still have splenda and sf stuff, just get rid of the CRAP. My jeans hardly fit me-well they fit, but it is VERY uncomfortable to even sit down.

I have been slacking and not posting, so my other goal is to get back to posting to-and count my macros.

JLB001 · 04-04-2004, 08:54 PM

Jillie! Clean out the cabinets, don't let what is bad in there! If you can't get rid of it...hide it in the very back of the cabinet.

I have to throw everything away that I might eat (dang popcorn). Our frig looks like a single guy lives here. I need to clean the cabinets out soon as well..we have sugar, flour, brown sugar, shorting....I have been sitting here thinking I could make drop sugar cookies with just those basic things!!!

I need to hide the cookbooks too.

greekblondechic · 04-04-2004, 08:56 PM

My jeans are way too tight

JLB001 · 04-04-2004, 08:59 PM

Ok...both of ya'll get your rears to my house. We'll be safe from bad food here.

Jill · 04-04-2004, 09:06 PM

The worst thing is we have NO shit in the house, nothing bad at all, except 1 bag of doritios that Steve bought for poker night that didnt get eaten, and they are of NO temptation to me what so ever. The cookies are going with Steve to work tomorrow, thank god. The worst thing is lately Ive been going out and BUYING the crap when I want it, knowing that I shouldn't, I still do fuck!! Then I eat it all. The next day it starts all over again...friggin cycle. I need to get some control over my cravings.

JLB001 · 04-04-2004, 09:18 PM

once you have sugar back in the diet, it is hard to get rid of it again. I have a habit of covering my nose with my shirt when we go to the food store and have to walk into the bakery section. It is my weakness...esp the hot french bread that they bake...Its addictive.

gwcaton · 04-04-2004, 10:24 PM

Night Jill !

Sapphire · 04-05-2004, 05:53 AM

Hi Jill!

How are you sweetie? Sounds like you were a bit down on yourself about the whole sugar thing... I CRAVE sugar too when I am PMSing. It's ridiculous.

How are your workouts going?
How was your weekend?

gwcaton · 04-05-2004, 06:07 AM

Hi Jill !

TGIM ! LOL

atherjen · 04-05-2004, 08:18 AM

Gooooooddddd Monday Jillybean!!

dont be so down on yourself hunny, it all takes time to overcome our obstacles.. you have been doing great. perhaps try and find yourself something that you REALLY like that isnt so bad for you and eat that when you are having cravings. I dont know what.. but something to help you feel satisfied.
hopefully those trainers that you go see wednesday can offer some one on one insight hun!
hang in there, and try not to be sooo upset! you shine when you smile beautiful!

Jill · 04-05-2004, 09:27 AM

AJ and Saphy, you 2 are a sweetharts!!! (you too Gary he he)

4 hours and no sugar, yipeee!!! I went and did an hour of crazy cardio this am, it felt great-maybe it will offset all the cookies I had last night!

The cookies were sitting on the counter this am, and i didnt have one!!

Im thinking of taking a week off of weight training, have never really done that before-with the exception of 5 days while I was in mexico. Was still planning on doing cardio. Any opinions?? Im planning to focus more on cardio, and a little less on the weights, my armies are just getting too big!

atherjen · 04-05-2004, 09:33 AM

armies are geting too big??

you silly woman!
a week off training may be good for you body! its good to do every once and a while. then start off fresh and high drive again in a week!

an hour of cardio this am?

Im sweatin just thinkin of it! haha

Jill · 04-05-2004, 09:50 AM

My arms are serioulsy too big-I was looking at pics from a few years ago, they were much smaller

jstar · 04-05-2004, 11:27 AM

Hi Jill

Hon - how are you? I wish I could take away your stress, I know how you feel. Ya know, you were doing really great on your diet the past couple months, it's just the past few weeks you got a little sidetracked. I think you CAN and WILL be able to get back into a solid routine again. Taking a week off is a great idea. Trust me you will be rearing to get back in the weight room after a whole week off!

PS - I LOVE your arms. Mine a friggin pipecleaners, I have to stay in flex mode for my muscles to be visible

For me, binge eating is due to emotional eating. I end up stuffing the feelings down with food, instead of feeling them because they are too painful. Especially now since the breakup, the feelings I have are so strong I am going to feel them whether I binge or not. Bingeing doesn't take away those feelings and that is why I think I have lost the temptation right now. My diet hasn't been perfect, but I am happy I have not binged or even wanted to.

Jen's idea was right on - find something YOU love to do to fill up those times when you are most tempted. Make a list of 100 other things to do til the urge passes - like paint your nails, go to the bookstore and read, drive around in your car with the radio on singing, take a long hot shower or bath. Those are just some ideas. At first you will have to "force" yourself to do these alternate activities because it won't seem natural, and sometimes you will still binge anyways, but over time it really does help you gain control.

Jill · 04-05-2004, 11:31 AM

You are real sweet J-star. Yup, last night was a nightmare!!! I was doing good for about a month or 2, and you are right things went downhill from their. I just need to suck it up now, and start fresh, those are famous words of mine.... I think I am ready, today is going good so far. Thanks for the tips!

naturaltan · 04-05-2004, 11:40 AM

I tmight help having to answer to someone like Donna ... having to tell her that you cheated would make me scared to ..

Just joking about her scaring ya ... but I do think that having to answer to someone might help. As long as you're honest with what you've cheated on, she'll be able to say "Jill, that cheat was ok, but if you want to progress, you're going to have to .... "

jstar · 04-05-2004, 11:48 AM

anytime

NT - Donna is HUGE, wow!!! I am sure she is as great as you say

Jill - I think talking to a bb will help you, plus give you a little extra motivation. IMO, from what I have seen, you did the best when you were following Jodi's advice. I am not suggesting you should revisit carb cycling, but I think some people like yourself do better with a mentor/advisor. (tell me if I am wrong I am just assuming).

For me, I have a hard time planning and sticking to things to a tee. Anytime I have tried to follow this diet plan or that diet plan I never last. I like to have total control over what I eat and when and how much, and just play with things to make it work for me. Some people would get anxiety over doing things this way, but I prefer less structure in my work and in my life~

Jill · 04-05-2004, 11:59 AM

I think your are sorta right J-star & NT-having somebody to answer to may help me. I don not plan to carb cyle again Jstar-I think it totally brought on the binges. Lats year, Feb-Oct i was eating reg, mainitaing my weight, never binging. Then started cc in oct- or nov, and things have steadily went down hill from there. (weight up about several pounds) Im not blaming the diet, cause I know ultimately I am responsible for my actions, but I think it was sort of a trigger.

Ive never been "put on a diet", so I dont know how I will respond mentally. I am deff gonna go in to see the trainers with an open mind, thats for sure. I think this is my last resort, cause not being strict or on a plan has still left me in binge mode. I need to get everything under control mentally, for the most part.

naturaltan · 04-05-2004, 12:03 PM

jstar ... she's a bit smaller now. She's weighing in at around 175lb.

Jill ... I hope you find the eating plan as simple as the missus has found it. You will have to battle with the sugar issue, but I think the plan is good.

04-04-2004, 07:26 AM	#121
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04-04-2004, 11:05 AM	#123
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,902 Photos: 7	I hope it works out for you as well. Did talking to your friend help motivate you at all?
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

04-04-2004, 11:46 AM	#127
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	Ohhh Jillybean keep your head up and think postive for me hun, even if that smile is hard to crack do it-because you are SO beautiful in and out, regardless of how you feel you look! I truly hope that you are able to find the guidance that you seek with the trainers. let us know how it goes hun! haha I woke up this morning and was like "damn I overslept" then I remembered the time change!
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

04-04-2004, 08:54 PM	#131
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	Jillie! Clean out the cabinets, don't let what is bad in there! If you can't get rid of it...hide it in the very back of the cabinet. I have to throw everything away that I might eat (dang popcorn). Our frig looks like a single guy lives here. I need to clean the cabinets out soon as well..we have sugar, flour, brown sugar, shorting....I have been sitting here thinking I could make drop sugar cookies with just those basic things!!! I need to hide the cookbooks too.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

04-04-2004, 08:59 PM	#133
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	Ok...both of ya'll get your rears to my house. We'll be safe from bad food here.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

04-04-2004, 11:02 AM	#122
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Hey Gary, how goes it??? Im sleepy today, lost an hour due to the time change!!

04-04-2004, 11:15 AM	#124
greekblondechic I'm special :) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 7,792	I am starting to get a little skeptical of taking advice from BB's when I don't want to look like a BB. I want the figure/fitness look.

04-04-2004, 11:42 AM	#126
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	There are pictures of the trainers im going to see on page 4 of my journal, thanks to NT!

04-04-2004, 12:06 PM	#128
greekblondechic I'm special :) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 7,792	Jillian.. Like I mentioned in my journal.. I am so physically uncomfortable in my own body that I simply can not be happy or accept it. It is like saying you must accept something constantly bothering you like a mosquito that never goes away. Ok bad analogy, but I think you get what I mean.

04-04-2004, 12:40 PM	#129
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	I totally get it greeky.

04-04-2004, 08:42 PM	#130
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	People, I think I have a problem-I AM ADDICTED TO SUGAR AAAAAAAAAAAA! I find if i have some, i crave it and look for it the the rest of the day- the worst thing is that I EAT IT TOO!!!!!!!!!! Its an all or nothing approach. I cant have a tiny bit of chocolate-insted I binge. So the easiest way to stop the cravings, I believe, is to just get rid IT them completely. My goal, starting tomorrow is the elimate REAL sugar. I plan to still have splenda and sf stuff, just get rid of the CRAP. My jeans hardly fit me-well they fit, but it is VERY uncomfortable to even sit down. I have been slacking and not posting, so my other goal is to get back to posting to-and count my macros.

04-04-2004, 08:56 PM	#132
greekblondechic I'm special :) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 7,792	My jeans are way too tight

04-04-2004, 09:06 PM	#134
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	The worst thing is we have NO shit in the house, nothing bad at all, except 1 bag of doritios that Steve bought for poker night that didnt get eaten, and they are of NO temptation to me what so ever. The cookies are going with Steve to work tomorrow, thank god. The worst thing is lately Ive been going out and BUYING the crap when I want it, knowing that I shouldn't, I still do fuck!! Then I eat it all. The next day it starts all over again...friggin cycle. I need to get some control over my cravings.

04-04-2004, 09:18 PM	#135
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	once you have sugar back in the diet, it is hard to get rid of it again. I have a habit of covering my nose with my shirt when we go to the food store and have to walk into the bakery section. It is my weakness...esp the hot french bread that they bake...Its addictive.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

04-04-2004, 10:24 PM	#136
gwcaton Lookin' for abs ! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: central missouri Posts: 9,271 Photos: 28	Night Jill !
	My Last Journal Before The One You're Reading Now Old Journals : My P/RR/S Journal My GWcaton Journal My Bulking Journal Just remember, when you think you're done you've just started . DEADBOLT . 2005

04-05-2004, 05:53 AM	#137
Sapphire P/RR/S groupie Join Date: May 2003 Location: anywhere my love Chris is... Posts: 4,449 Photos: 4	Hi Jill! How are you sweetie? Sounds like you were a bit down on yourself about the whole sugar thing... I CRAVE sugar too when I am PMSing. It's ridiculous. How are your workouts going? How was your weekend?
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04-05-2004, 06:07 AM	#138
gwcaton Lookin' for abs ! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: central missouri Posts: 9,271 Photos: 28	Hi Jill ! TGIM ! LOL
	My Last Journal Before The One You're Reading Now Old Journals : My P/RR/S Journal My GWcaton Journal My Bulking Journal Just remember, when you think you're done you've just started . DEADBOLT . 2005

04-05-2004, 08:18 AM	#139
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	Gooooooddddd Monday Jillybean!! dont be so down on yourself hunny, it all takes time to overcome our obstacles.. you have been doing great. perhaps try and find yourself something that you REALLY like that isnt so bad for you and eat that when you are having cravings. I dont know what.. but something to help you feel satisfied. hopefully those trainers that you go see wednesday can offer some one on one insight hun! hang in there, and try not to be sooo upset! you shine when you smile beautiful!
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

04-05-2004, 09:27 AM	#140
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	AJ and Saphy, you 2 are a sweetharts!!! (you too Gary he he) 4 hours and no sugar, yipeee!!! I went and did an hour of crazy cardio this am, it felt great-maybe it will offset all the cookies I had last night! The cookies were sitting on the counter this am, and i didnt have one!! Im thinking of taking a week off of weight training, have never really done that before-with the exception of 5 days while I was in mexico. Was still planning on doing cardio. Any opinions?? Im planning to focus more on cardio, and a little less on the weights, my armies are just getting too big!

04-05-2004, 09:33 AM	#141
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	armies are geting too big?? you silly woman! a week off training may be good for you body! its good to do every once and a while. then start off fresh and high drive again in a week! an hour of cardio this am? Im sweatin just thinkin of it! haha Last edited by atherjen : 04-05-2004 at 09:52 AM.
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

04-05-2004, 09:50 AM	#142
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	My arms are serioulsy too big-I was looking at pics from a few years ago, they were much smaller

04-05-2004, 11:27 AM	#143
jstar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1,332 Photos: 5	Hi Jill Hon - how are you? I wish I could take away your stress, I know how you feel. Ya know, you were doing really great on your diet the past couple months, it's just the past few weeks you got a little sidetracked. I think you CAN and WILL be able to get back into a solid routine again. Taking a week off is a great idea. Trust me you will be rearing to get back in the weight room after a whole week off! PS - I LOVE your arms. Mine a friggin pipecleaners, I have to stay in flex mode for my muscles to be visible For me, binge eating is due to emotional eating. I end up stuffing the feelings down with food, instead of feeling them because they are too painful. Especially now since the breakup, the feelings I have are so strong I am going to feel them whether I binge or not. Bingeing doesn't take away those feelings and that is why I think I have lost the temptation right now. My diet hasn't been perfect, but I am happy I have not binged or even wanted to. Jen's idea was right on - find something YOU love to do to fill up those times when you are most tempted. Make a list of 100 other things to do til the urge passes - like paint your nails, go to the bookstore and read, drive around in your car with the radio on singing, take a long hot shower or bath. Those are just some ideas. At first you will have to "force" yourself to do these alternate activities because it won't seem natural, and sometimes you will still binge anyways, but over time it really does help you gain control.

04-05-2004, 11:31 AM	#144
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	You are real sweet J-star. Yup, last night was a nightmare!!! I was doing good for about a month or 2, and you are right things went downhill from their. I just need to suck it up now, and start fresh, those are famous words of mine.... I think I am ready, today is going good so far. Thanks for the tips!

04-05-2004, 11:40 AM	#145
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,902 Photos: 7	I tmight help having to answer to someone like Donna ... having to tell her that you cheated would make me scared to .. Just joking about her scaring ya ... but I do think that having to answer to someone might help. As long as you're honest with what you've cheated on, she'll be able to say "Jill, that cheat was ok, but if you want to progress, you're going to have to .... "
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

04-05-2004, 11:48 AM	#146
jstar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1,332 Photos: 5	anytime NT - Donna is HUGE, wow!!! I am sure she is as great as you say Jill - I think talking to a bb will help you, plus give you a little extra motivation. IMO, from what I have seen, you did the best when you were following Jodi's advice. I am not suggesting you should revisit carb cycling, but I think some people like yourself do better with a mentor/advisor. (tell me if I am wrong I am just assuming). For me, I have a hard time planning and sticking to things to a tee. Anytime I have tried to follow this diet plan or that diet plan I never last. I like to have total control over what I eat and when and how much, and just play with things to make it work for me. Some people would get anxiety over doing things this way, but I prefer less structure in my work and in my life~

04-05-2004, 11:59 AM	#147
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	I think your are sorta right J-star & NT-having somebody to answer to may help me. I don not plan to carb cyle again Jstar-I think it totally brought on the binges. Lats year, Feb-Oct i was eating reg, mainitaing my weight, never binging. Then started cc in oct- or nov, and things have steadily went down hill from there. (weight up about several pounds) Im not blaming the diet, cause I know ultimately I am responsible for my actions, but I think it was sort of a trigger. Ive never been "put on a diet", so I dont know how I will respond mentally. I am deff gonna go in to see the trainers with an open mind, thats for sure. I think this is my last resort, cause not being strict or on a plan has still left me in binge mode. I need to get everything under control mentally, for the most part.

04-05-2004, 12:03 PM	#148
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,902 Photos: 7	jstar ... she's a bit smaller now. She's weighing in at around 175lb. Jill ... I hope you find the eating plan as simple as the missus has found it. You will have to battle with the sugar issue, but I think the plan is good.
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger