Thread: mousie's (female!!!) Methyl-D log

166 today... =O( It better be muscle or water!

Well, I'm going tonight with TrojanMan to check out my bodyfat percentage...so we'll see if I've made any changes.

Wish me luck.

I should probably mention...

Thursday I took the day off - even though my day off was supposed to be Friday. I had to due to personal reasons. So last night (Friday), I did shoulders and triceps. I do the shoulder press first, and I'm still disappointed with the weight that I can do...but I'll be patient. (15 lbs on each side) All of the dumbbell shoulder exercises I do seem to get easier though. As for triceps, I think that those are definitely gaining strength. I really burned em last night! Today is back day.

I checked my body fat percentage yesterday (Friday), and it's down to 33.5%!!! I will give you the rest of the stats later. I have to go work my 2nd job soon.

Happy Easter everyone!

Stats for 4-9-04 (taken at night):

Weight: 169.2 lbs
BMI: 30.0
BMR: 6612 kJ, 1580kcal
Impedance: 472
Fat %: 33.5%
Fat Mass: 56.6 lbs
Fat Free Mass: 112.6 lbs
Total Body Water: 82.4 lbs

I should mention that I up'ed my dosage to .5 mgs twice a day starting yesterday (for my last 2 weeks of the cycle). I feel a little weird today...not sure how to explain it.

Mousie, stick with it. You'll be happy you did. Keep that dose up, and you will sprint ahead in terms of results. I would say evaluate yourself towards the end of the last 2 weeks, and see how your responding. If everything looks OK, stay on for 1 more week. Good Luck, and push it to the max.

im less of a proponent of pushing the limit when the pusher is female.....when a man does a bigger cycle he is looking at greater testicular atrophy and a few other things that are fairly reverseable....girls on the other hand face virulization, wich can be a permanent thing!!!

I don't want her to push it to the max either. Someday I may want her to have my puppies.

Well, just to let everyone know...I QUIT.

This journal is officially over.

what happened mousie? seemed like you were pleased 'til now. hope all is well.

I'm just down in the dumps.

Damn bunny. right there on my ass. : p no, but seriously, virilization can be permenant yes, but I want her to take that chance. Take a look at Kim Chivesky. She had done more androgens prolly, than most guys in this message board, and competed for quite sometime, but now that she went back to fitness, you'd never have even known she was on, and I've seen clips of her speaking, her voice sounds perfectly fine. So PR, sometimes it can be doable. Just depends on if your willing to go there or not.

But yea....Mousie is not Ms. Olympia, (as was Kim), so if you're not there in the mentals mouse, no way....nothing good will come of it. .....Bunny, you saved the day! you saved her from my evil clutches....or at least thats how you see it, right?

Thanks for pointing out that I'm not "all there", elitist. Want the rest of my Methyl-D?

Mouse, I'm proud of you. You made a tough descision. You took the road less travelled by. Way to be. You'll get there, just watch. In the end, when all is said and done, the deciding factor, in the outcome of your own self imposed transforamtion is sheer will. Just think about all the women out there who start their programs half-assed, and never even make any progress. They just write themselves off. Don't be one of them! Be the minority. Be the woman who guts it out, sticks with it, and reaches her goal. You can do it mouse, trust in that.

hold up. wait a minute. don't you stop b/c you're having a bad day or even a bad week. you're tougher than that mousie. i know it.

(if you are having any sides of course than i'm all for you stopping right away)

i'm sorry you're feeling down and hope things get better soon...but can't ya keep going through the bad days? it could be you'll feel better if you do.

i don't mean to intrude or anything - i just hate to see you give up if it's not b/c of not liking the methyl-d.

actually - did you mean you were giving up methyl-d or training and everything? (could be i totally misunderstood you. )

Have you ever come across the feeling where you just feel like you're heading down a road that leads to nowhere? Well, I've been okay for the past few weeks. But...I was talking to one of my role models last night at the gym...and instead of her inspiring me, I felt jealous and depressed. I feel as if I will never be able to find sources for gear, so I might as well quit. I wouldn't mind being natural, but I know that I can do a whole lot more if I had "stuff" due to my body type. I know that we're supposed to find sources on our own...but how can you trust anyone? There's no way I'm going to risk my freedom - whatever is left of it thanks to the gov't.

Things are just so topsy-turvy with me going to grad school full time and working 2 jobs. I'm sure I'll pull my panties out of a bunch...but I think I just need some time to think.

I am still taking Methyl-D and will finish off the rest of my cycle...

Thanks for all of your kind and motivational words, elitist. You're one of the few who have faith in me.

Originally posted by mousie
Have you ever come across the feeling where you just feel like you're heading down a road that leads to nowhere? Well, I've been okay for the past few weeks. But...I was talking to one of my role models last night at the gym...and instead of her inspiring me, I felt jealous and depressed. I feel as if I will never be able to find sources for gear, so I might as well quit. I wouldn't mind being natural, but I know that I can do a whole lot more if I had "stuff" due to my body type. I know that we're supposed to find sources on our own...but how can you trust anyone? There's no way I'm going to risk my freedom - whatever is left of it thanks to the gov't.

Things are just so topsy-turvy with me going to grad school full time and working 2 jobs. I'm sure I'll pull my panties out of a bunch...but I think I just need some time to think.

I am still taking Methyl-D and will finish off the rest of my cycle...

Thanks for all of your kind and motivational words, elitist. You're one of the few who have faith in me.

I haven't said much, but i've been reading your journal. I'm with Nikegurl, definitely stick with it! Wow, if you've come this far doing all that stuff, then u should take the time and think about what u've accomplished! Keep going and stay focused! I know it's easier said than done. I'm sure the majority of the posters on this site have days like the ones, u've described, however that's what life is all about, right?

i know what ya mean mousie....but ever have a day where everything just feels good and right (even though nothing's much different than the day before)

you'll get through the bad days and on to more good ones soon i hope.

Whoa mousie slow down on the sources. You sure you're ready to go there? think about that.....don't think a cycle of T3 and clen are an end all/be all to your goals(or any anabolic for that matter). Yes they speed up the process, but its not supposed to be easy.....steroids are just an add-on to spotless nutrition, disciplined training, and sufficient recovery. If you're slacking in any of those categories, please, rethink your situation. Don't worry about finding sources. Get your program to a near flawless status, and then, when you have the iron will and determination secure in your persona(which at this point, I don't believe you do), then, and only then, explore and research the possible benefits of taking the chemical route.

ya know how i look at it mousie? When I see someone with a better overall package than me, those feelings start to materialize (jealous, depressed), but then....I just think to myself.....as I look at them.....I see things...things that I posess that they don't....maybe wider shoulder structure, maybe smaller waist.....or even maybe just a better personality. So even though at first glance it looks as though they have me bested, when all is said and done, I realize that I am superior to them in many unique ways. There is no one woman out there, I don't care who she is, even if she cheered for the huskies(j/k nike), that has you beaten. Don't ever adopt that belief. You shine in your own ways I'm sure mousie, I'm quite sure of that. Just give it time, stick with it, and someday, you will think back on that day you were at the gym, and had those negative feelings come over you. Then you will chuckle to yourself because of the level of conditioning you have acheived, and know that you had surpassed this woman in every aspect of the physique. You had transcended her look. You came into your own.And it will happen........if you believe.....good luck.

elitist, you should do this kind of stuff for a living. =O)

eh....I just know what it's like to not have anyone care, not have anyone support you.......and I always hated that. I wish that on noone, especially someone as dear and sweet as yourself. Know that I'm here for you......and I do care.

Originally posted by elitist
Whoa mousie slow down on the sources. You sure you're ready to go there? think about that.....don't think a cycle of T3 and clen are an end all/be all to your goals(or any anabolic for that matter). Yes they speed up the process, but its not supposed to be easy.....steroids are just an add-on to spotless nutrition, disciplined training, and sufficient recovery. If you're slacking in any of those categories, please, rethink your situation. Don't worry about finding sources. Get your program to a near flawless status, and then, when you have the iron will and determination secure in your persona(which at this point, I don't believe you do), then, and only then, explore and research the possible benefits of taking the chemical route.

ya know how i look at it mousie? When I see someone with a better overall package than me, those feelings start to materialize (jealous, depressed), but then....I just think to myself.....as I look at them.....I see things...things that I posess that they don't....maybe wider shoulder structure, maybe smaller waist.....or even maybe just a better personality. So even though at first glance it looks as though they have me bested, when all is said and done, I realize that I am superior to them in many unique ways. There is no one woman out there, I don't care who she is, even if she cheered for the huskies(j/k nike), that has you beaten. Don't ever adopt that belief. You shine in your own ways I'm sure mousie, I'm quite sure of that. Just give it time, stick with it, and someday, you will think back on that day you were at the gym, and had those negative feelings come over you. Then you will chuckle to yourself because of the level of conditioning you have acheived, and know that you had surpassed this woman in every aspect of the physique. You had transcended her look. You came into your own.And it will happen........if you believe.....good luck.

DAMN that was a great post. Every word....cheered me up.

Hang in their mousie. Keep doing the right things and every day will get ya closer to where you want to be. You'll see. (by the way I have to remind myself of this often)

Damn, even I feel better after reading that.

Guys, Imma move this to the jounral threads.

im sorry, but something needs to be set straight.....people that think they can completely change from avg person to competition quality with gear are plain wrong....if you think you need "stuff" because of your body type i can nearly guarntee that your not going to be walking up on the stage...

look at one of our mods...scottrout is a pure natty competition bb and a guy I REALLY respect for his natty physique...his body comes straight from the 3 D's.... Diet Discipline and Doin it right in the gym..
take a look at his pics http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/ga...at=500&thumb=1


But even when doin it right, you have to havee some great heriditary traits in ya to really compete...its just like football, basketball etc.....there are just certain people who cant cut it because nature did not deal them the hand to do it..look at pre gear ronnie coleman pics..or pre gear flex wheeler pics...they dont look bad by any stretch of the imagination

now even if you aint gonna try to be a comp BB, i still think its great to try to get the best physique you can...and i do believe if done right, it is ok to use gear to make that physique a little better...

that said ...i think you may be barking up a tree with this gear buisness that you should not try for yet

wow........correct me if I'm wrong bunny(which I know you will), but did I not just tell her that in so many words? I don't recall her saying a word about competing, maybe it is you barking up the wrong tree. NOONE said that they think they can change from avg. person to competition quality on gear.......unless I have a mental block. You are a very rigid person PR, that I can infer from your posts, and while it may work to your advantage in the training arena, it certainly works to your detriment when you communicate a thought.......Just relax. I doubt mousie is planning on doing a show anytime soon. Quite deceiving, that furry little innocent bunny of yours.

I am pretty rigid in training....but id like to think im also a nice guy who says his part when its needed..

and she has mentioned comps...otherwise i wouldnt have brought it up