X Ring

i might post pictures at the end, when I have a better looking after shot to show. I will send them to where we have to now but I am not to excited about posting them. Makes me kinda ill to look at them. I am probably going to drop my cals a bit more than I thought and not make this so much a bulking diet but not a real cut diet either. Still working out details slowly. I understand nutrition pretty well but putting together a diet for myself is definitely a weak point.

IainDaniel

Screw cutting

Lets put on some Hardcore muscle. This is a mass building program, feed it.

Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.

Michael Jordan

Mudge

I will be honest and say I have not lost any muscle going down to ~1g per pound. I have been reading from people like Duchaine and others that protein is not needed in such mass quanities and it seems to be holding true for me. Quality is one concern.

In the short term a rise in protein will burn some extra calories (protein is really about 5c per gram but requires energy to utilize), but in the long term high protein diets (supposedly) will cause fat gain.

Mudge

That all looks very normal to me, people are not 100% symetrical from right to left unless they are freaks. 1/2" disparity on the arms is very very normal.

Mudge

There is only so fat people want to get, his waist and mine are about identical and believe me, I need to cut.

X Ring

Dan yeah I want muscle I want a shit load of it however as mudge stated, I have gotten to the point cant handle any more fat. Honestly in sept 03 I was about a 37" waist. I need to get back there, my clothes with fit better. I am going to try not to lose muscle in the process.

Mudge that is good to know about protein. I have never had a strict diet where i paid attention to alot of detail. But I am going to try it with this program.

Understand that most people arent symmetric but I am suprised I was even that close. i am right handed for just about everything, yet when I bench my right side always lags. When I do arms i get half the pump in my right as my left arm. Had I measured after doing arms I am sure there would have been a significant difference. It might be from all the baseball I played, I messed up my right shoulder. it isnt so much the size difference that bothers me but the strength difference, my left side is ready to go and my right side is trying to catch up. I dont know
thanks for your input guys

X Ring

4/12/04: Day 1 of 84
Pretty good day, I was pumped to start this program. Diet is much better, but I have no idea how i am going to get to 400 g p/day like I said I would try, but Mudge's post has helped me with that. Check out my fitday log and keep me straight. (Yesterday being Easter was full of yummy foods)
Stats are posted above, I have the picture

Workout looks like this (rep x weight):
time-55min
cardio warm up 5 min
WG pulldown- 8x19, 7x20
Barbell Rows- 7x225, 7x245
Leg Curl Lying- 8x160, 8x170
Barbell Curl- 9x115, 6x135
Hammer Cable Curls- 6x8, 8x7
Calf Raises seated- 8x280, 7x280
Barbell Shrug- 9x405, 9x455

I have never done a workout like this before, felt a bit awkward. I have always been one maybe muscle groups per workout. So far so good but I will need at least two weeks to give a honest opinion. Like most others I wasnt tired and didnt get a huge pump but I did do a few more warm upsets than I might normally do.

X Ring

Got my BMI measured today and it came out to be 21%. Not all that surprised but definitely disappointed. Things are going to change for sure. Today was a good day, still getting use to this two day cycle thing. Doing about 2-3 warmup sets at this earlier stage, but I will probably drop that as the working sets increase.

Weight: 242 lbs
3022 Calories 327 g Protein For the most part I won't be including this daily but it will be on my fitday.com account. I will keep up with that. I promise

time- 60 min
cardio warmup- 5 min
Barbell Squat- 8x315, 8x315
Quad Extention- 8x275, 7x300
Incline Barbell Press- 7x225, 6x225
Cable Crossover- 8x9, 7x10
Military Dumbbell Press- 7x80, 5x80* (I thought I had 6 or 7 in me)
Close-Grip Bench- 7x185, 6x205
V-bar Press Down- 8x14, 8x14

On the V-bar press down what is the proper form. From the title it doesn’t seem like it is keeping your elbows are you sides and only moving your forearms, but that is what I have always done up til now when I really pressed down almost more like a dip. Any comments on that

M.J.H.

Wow, you're a lot bigger than I thought X Ring! 242 lbs. huh? Any idea what your bodyfat % is? Workouts look damn good. Strength is definitely imperssive as well. Keep up the hard work.

Stats!
23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat

380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current)
405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals)

The M.J.H. Chronicles

X Ring

i have always been a fat ass, last summer i wasnt but I put on about 20lbs since september 03. some muscle, most of it fat though. I got my BMI measured yesterday and it told me my bf% was 21%. I hope to get down to around 14 or so

Rocco32

You can get that BF down quickly! Awesome lifts BTW! I'm impressed

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X Ring

Thanks, and I will get the BF down, I didnt really eat clean before now, so I am hoping this will make a big difference. Just like most everyone around here I would love to lose fat and gain lean mass

X Ring

day off today. I was looking at my fitday thing for the past few days and my carbs are much lower, this I am happy about.
My protein is above 300 which makes me not upset, not satisfied though. I would like to be around 350- 400g/ day.
Now my fat intake is definitely up there. Not happy about that at all and I might have to do something that I just dont think is right. I think I might have to start ditching some of the yolks!! I was never into it but looks like I may have to. There are other places to trim the fat but it definitely has to come off somewhere.
Calories around 3200-3400 and should stay there. Kinda lower than i expected but thats ok. I will see how my composition is affected by this. Hopefully i will shed a few lbs of fat and at least maintain the lean muscle mass.
Everything else seems to be A OK, well besides the fact that Sam's Club closes at 8:30 and not 9 or 9:30 like i thought it did I am kinda pissed off b/c I hardly have any food left!

Flex

keep it up homey...

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X Ring

im working on it. kinda jonesin' for some deadlifts with everyone talking about them on the board. Although, I'm pretty pumped about this TP PT thing its going to be good, and if nothing else by the end of it I should finally be able to get to eatting right

M.J.H.

Wow, way to go with that man. My protein intake is just starting to up that high. To around 300g I mean. I usually take in just a gram per pound of bodyweight and now I am starting to really increase that because I am realizing how important protein is, especially on a PH cycle.

Stats!
23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat

380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current)
405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals)

The M.J.H. Chronicles

Triple Threat

Funny you should mention this. In the original TP-PT, one of the phase 1 workouts had deadlifts in it (along with SLDLs, too). This proved to be too strenuous for what TP was trying to accomplish, so a different exercise replaced the deads. Don't worry, they'll be back.

X Ring

yeah I thought he said somewhere they would be incorporated into the workout. I love doing these more than any other exercise and just miss them. I actually miss them more than my gf who is 250 miles away and i havent seen in 2 months

M.J.H.

LOL, you miss deadlifts more than your girlfriend who's 250 miles away? That's not a good sign...

Stats!
23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat

380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current)
405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals)

The M.J.H. Chronicles

X Ring

yeah it is! That means I will have even more intensity when I get to do them again!! hahaa, god I hope she never reads this, but if she does at least I will be able to focus more on lifting

PreMier

LOL! Your the man!

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

X Ring

Things were alright today. Wasnt really feeling it but I wasnt completely out of it either, so my lifts were just blah. Shitty food today, way too much fat. Didnt make it to the store again today. Knee is starting to hurt for some reason like it use to back in my catcher days. Hope it is just a short term thing.
weight: 241 lbs

Workout looks like this (rep x weight):
time-60 min (could have done it faster)
cardio warm up 3 min (my knee what killing me, not good)
WG pulldown- 8x18, 7x20
Barbell Rows- 7x225, 9x225
Leg Curl Lying- 9x160, 7x180
Barbell Curl- 8x115, 6x135
Hammer Cable Curls- 8x7, 8x8
Calf Raises seated- 9x280, 9x280
Barbell Shrug- 10x405, 9x455

I did some rope crunches at one of the towers for 3 sets of 20 b/c I was waiting for my father to finish lifting

X Ring

on a side note there were some guys doing deads today, really heavy huge deads and did they ever let everyone know that they were pulling 225 and 275. Freaking doof balls over there acting like assholes. These are the idiots that give weightlifters a rep of being cocky, pompus, asswipes.
I know I should just ignore them but it hard when they can be heard across the gym and but you are lifting right next to them

Rocco32

LOL, I'm there with you on that X! Great lifts, I wish ONE day in my life I could do one curl with 135lbs!!

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

X Ring

for what I have read about you here you have come along way with some amazing and steady progress. You will only make it there if you want it, that said I am sure you will get it. I have only really picked up a rep or two on that over thats 4 months really

M.J.H.

Damn man, strength is looking good! 135 for 6 in BB curls is awesome, keep up the hard work.

Stats!
23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat

380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current)
405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals)

The M.J.H. Chronicles

X Ring

DONT WORRY ANYONE im still alive. I just didnt have much access to a computer the past week. When I am bored at work tomorrow I will post all the workouts. I was going to today but no internet at work. Maybe I will work on it now.

Anyway everything is going fine the past week my diet was a bit loose b/c I was on vacation and didnt plan meals as well as I should have. Stats seem about the same. Starting to get a work out from this program

PreMier

How was vacation?

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

X Ring

it was alright I saw my gf at the end. It was april vacation from school, I work at a middle school. It was nice but I broke two studs on my explorer and my ATV wont start b/c the carb is gunked up