X Ring

hmmm that sounds like something i would like. AlthoughI might do pullups first to warm up. I always did something before deads to get some blood going. Thanks Captain I appreciate the input

X Ring

May 12, 2004:
I hate Barbell Military Press. I am very uncomfortable and I can only come down to my nose before I get into a incline press position. When using DB I feel I get a better workout but I know that the BB MP is targeting the muscle a little different and that is what TP wants. Upright rows are down from usual, hope the will get back up there. Shrugs are blah. Overall I like Phase 2 workouts so far. I have been doing and extra warm up set or a cool down set because 3 straight sets of 6-9 reps isn’t cutting it.
Diet was ok today. Might have been a little lower in protein but I had some delicious fruit.

DAY 3 Shoulders and Traps......50 min
Seated barbell military press (front)....7, 6, 7 x 165
Wide-grip upright rows............7x145, 8x145, 9x135
Side lateral raises DB...............8x40, 7x50, 8x45
Rear lateral raises DB..............9x30, 8x35, 9x35
Barbell shrugs.........................9x405, 8x455, 9x405
Weight....................................238 lbs
Cardio.....................................none

X Ring

i cant access our little private forum from work but can anyone tell me what kinda of ROM we are looking for one the raises? Parallel the floor or higher?
And on the wide grip rows? I am coming to mid neckish for most reps, chin for the first one or two. Is that good or higher?
And ROM on BB MP. like I said above if I go below the tip of my nose I cant maintain any form. Even at a relatively light weight. Should I try it on the smith press machine?

X Ring

OK this is that last time I dont do dead for 5 weeks and then go back at it hard. My muscle on the left side in the middle of my back if fucked up. and i get to do squats tonight

X Ring

DAY 4 Quads and Hams...60 min
Barbell Squats................8x315, 6x335, 7x335
Leg Press .......................9x810 (3)
Leg extensions...............9x290, 7x305, 8x305
Stiff Leg Deadlifts............8x275, 7x315, 6x315
Leg curls .......................(2x190 + 6x160), 7x170, 7x160
Cardio.............................4.5 min
Weight............................237 lbs

Like I mentioned yesterday the left side of my back is messed up, I have a halfsized football knot in it and I cant really bend over easily and I walk kinda messed up. But it felt alright lifting, better than when I wasnt lifting.
Squats sucked b/c I didnt know what was going to happen to my back, and I was a few reps off what I was use to pre-TP PT on my SLDL. Other than that it was alright

Cheated last night pretty good, had codfish cakes and canned baked beans with english muffins but had a little extra whey to help make up for the lack of protein.
Appetite is kinda down right now, not a lot, just a bit, perhaps I am sick of tuna and eggs, but I had yummy steak the other day


going to they gym right after work then to my brothers ball games and then to NY for my sister graduation this weekend. My food will be kinda crappy I suppose but I will do my best, I promise

PreMier

Workouts lookin good bro! 4.5 mins of cardio? LOL Just do your best to eat healthy

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

X Ring

yeah I couldnt last any longer for the cardio I just wasnt motivated enough to keep going. I wanted to get to lifting. My eating was horrendous this past weekend. I was at my sisters graduation. I think I put on 4 lbs of pure fat. I want to just cut it off. Week 2 of phase 2 starts today should be fun. Hope I can get a spotter.

X Ring

DAY 5
Upper Arms...........45 min
Barbell curls............................................. .....7x135, 6.5x135, 6x135
Seated dumbbell curls (supinating)..............7x50 (3)
Preacher Curls, Machine...............................8x150, 6x160, 7x160
V-bar press-downs......................................12x15.5 , 12x16.5, 11x16.5
Seated, overhead dumbbell extension.........9x115, 9x125 (2)
Cable kickback.......................................... ....9x6, 9x5 (2)
Cardio............................................ ...............none
Weight............................................ ..............237 lbs

Had to rush through this workout but it went alright.
Some comments on the workout
Barbell curls felt crappy, really really struggled to get the reps I did, should have had more. Actually all my bi workout felt weak.
V-bar press down it outside the rep range b/c the station I wanted to use was broken and I had all the weight i could get on to the rack I had to use so I went to failure which was higher.
Seated overhead DB were good but my gym maxes out at 125 lb DB. I should be ok at the weight once the sets gets harder.
Cable kickbacks are not something I am use to but they went alright. Overall a pretty weak workout

Rocco32

Well, your "weak" w/o puts my best w/o to shame!

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

X Ring

thanks man but it wasnt weak so much as just not up to par. Like I have said before it isnt about how much weight you move it is how hard you work. The weight will come if you let it

X Ring

Week 2 Phase 2
DAY 1 Chest and Calves
Incline dumbbell bench press...7+1x 105 6+1x115 6+1x105
Flat barbell bench press...6+2x225 6+2x245 5+2x245
Low cable cross-overs......8+2x8 7+2x8 7+3x8
Standing Calf Raises.....12x 15.5 no more weight 12x15.5 12x15.5
Seated Calf Raises....... 9x245 9x245 9x245
Cardio........none
Weight...... 245

OK workout really wish I had a spotter to do forced reps rather than a 10 sec pause to get another 1 or 2 after going to failure just before that. Flat bench sucked, could have been and should have been better. Although today my boobs feel nice.
Going to have to go to single leg standing calf rasies b/c the donkey calve raise and standing calf raise machine are all out of weight and are to easy to do with both legs. So from now on I will do it one leg at a time.
Thought about just taking a razor to my love handles and cutting them off after getting on the scale. get quicker results that way

X Ring

Phase 2 Week 2
Day 2 Back
Pull-ups ......................6+2x BW+25 6+2x BW+25 5.5+2x BW+25
Close-grip pull-downs....8+2x18 6+2x20 6+2x20
Dead-lifts...................... 6+1x425 4+2x 405 6+1x385
One-arm dumbbell rows.. 8+2x110 9+2x120 8+2x120
Weight.......... 241 lbs, down 4 lbs from yesterday
Cardio............3.5 min
Other

X Ring

I have been considering taking something besides creatine and my regular vitamins and whey. Needs to be something I have done before so I know what kind of results to expect while on this program. So that basically only leaves me with ZMA, or animal mstak or stak. I dont really want to do the animal stuff. but ZMA is something I would like to try again. If you have any suggestions on a brand or doseage let's hear them

PreMier

115's NICE! I have never used ZMA.

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

Var

Nice workout, X!

I've been thinking of trying ZMA. I've heard people have crazy dreams when they take that stuff. What was your experience with it like???

But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you.

-N. Machiavelli

X Ring

well Var it was some time ago, like 4 years. I was still somewhat a newbie. It went well over all, made some gains but didnt have much to compare it too. I dont really remember much about the dreams I do that ok on my own. I do remember getting better sleep, gained a few pounds but I was eating like a mad man as I had an unlimited meal plan at the dinning hall in college

X Ring

oh I will post my measurements from the end of phase I tomorrow and i think I will take more measurement at the end of week 2 here of phase 2. I dont feel much stronger but I think I look bigger, or maybe it is just wishful thinking.

Anyone using Optimum protein? Do you like it?

PreMier

Fuck ON

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

PreMier

Allthewhey has better protein, and they arent asswipes.

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

PreMier

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

X Ring

hmm well I guess I am not buying their product, it was just cheap for their 10 lb bag ($46) and I was already going to order from bulknutrition and wanted to make it all one order
THanks for the info

PreMier

Yea, I just buy Met-Rx or the new whey they carry... Cant recall the name. Here: http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1145

allthewhey.com has great tasting protein. It just takes forever to arrive(8 days last time).

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

IainDaniel

X ring if you order from BulkNutrition Check out MRM, that is what Mike is bringing in to replace ON. Meant to taste pretty good.

doesn't have 10lbers yet, but shortly, pricing is similar

Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.

Michael Jordan

X Ring

that metabolic whey looks pretty good I think I will order up some of that tomorrow along with some ZMA and maybe some other goodies

X Ring

Oh and on a training note I HATE BB MP!!! It sucks and i dont get any pump from it b/c I have to keep weight light b/c my back come way to far off the seat, I wish it was DB MP, so I could do 90s rather than 5 lbs on the freakin bar

PreMier

I like BB military Maybe keep your back straighter, and head back?

Oh, here is what I ordered today. http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=710

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

IainDaniel

Prem,

That Whey is very expensive. Check the MRM Alot more Protein per serving.

Notice the Met-rx is two scoops for only 32 g of P where as MRM would be 44 g for 2 scoops Mind you the scoops are a little larger, but there is still a significant savings, as well as less sugars.

Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.

Michael Jordan

PreMier

It is better... too late now lol

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

PreMier

I will order a 10Lb thing of all the whey here soon. I ran out today, so I actually had to buy from my gym. Got myself some muscle milk.

P-side Inc.

"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

X Ring

im trying to keep my back straight and I do put my head back, just dont really find them effective b/c they dont do as much as DB MP for me