Cool x ring. I also took on this sick and twisted program that were all going to love.
I'm in on Twin Peak's sick little experiment for at least 12 weeks. I will be logging only what is allowed: reactions, thoughts, stats, and diet info (better figure out how I am going to approach that!). So don't bother trying to get specifics out of me
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It is going to be an awesome 12 weeks, I'm sure.![]()
Cool x ring. I also took on this sick and twisted program that were all going to love.
He who speaks least, think's most.
TP using logical reasoning I assumed we were given less than half the information so not to scare us all away at once, and I can only imagine what is to come. Dont think I am wimping out, this may beat me up a bit but when i played baseball and was catcher I loved it when it was around 100 degrees, even with full gear on. Thats when other pussied out, and when I turned it up. Even it if takes me an hour to get out of bed I will get to the gym.
looking forward to it
Originally posted by Twin Peak
Also, from what you have seen, you can't understand how bad it is. You will in 4 weeks.![]()
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Truer words were never spoken.
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I aint skeered!!
Anyway I think I am going to keep bulking. I would like to try carb cycling but I havent done it before so I dont really want to go screw that up. maintaince for me is about 3800-just under 4000 cals I think. SO I am going to try for 4300 cals or so and do my best to keep the protein around 400 which I am going to have a problem with, I am eatting way too many carbs right now. If I can hit 400 I might try to up it to 450 or 500. That puts me at about a 40 P/30 C /30 F split.
Does this sounds reasonable to anyone?
I probably wont be able to start the program until next week now b/c I want day 1 to be on a monday. I wanted to start yesterday but that got all screwed up
as I mentioned, yesterday was a complete mess. Hit 4300 cals but only had 260 g P
Going to use fitday.com to help keep track of stuff, you can check it out here and I encourage you to verbally abuse me for not eating the way I must, http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...ml?Owner=gpaul
First thing that needs to go is the Potato Chips!!!
You can add chocolate chip cookies, white bread, and hot dogs to that "Got to go" list, too.![]()
yeah I know it was just what was on the table when I came home. Moving home this past year after college really hurt my diet. Since most of my food is paid for I try not to complain just suggest what to buy. I dont know if I dare post what i had at this retirement get together for a family friend this afternoon
Well, why don't you offer to do the shopping?!?!?! Who knows, you might influence some people with some healthy choices![]()
yeah right, not in my house, everyone is overweight besides me and my brother. Both of us were before I got into lifting and then I grabbed him and we were both very active in sport just fat. My extended family is even worse. I told them I that i was doing this program and would be eating more of my own stuff/ seperate meals and my mother took it as an insult to her cooking.
It is still worth the effort. If you can at least go along during the shopping trip then you can get your input in. This is important and while changing your family seems impossible don't let that stop you from trying. When your family understands that you are serious about your eating habits (which they obviously don't think so now because you are caving in ie hotdogs YUCK) then they most likely will be more willing to try different things for you and willing to buy what you need. Your training means nothing if you are going to eat crap.
thats something you gotta get used to bro. people who don't BB look at it like we're aliens. "What do you mean you don't wanna drink 20 beers tonite, eat shit right before you go to bed, get not enough sleep, get shitty sleep, and be hungover as hell tommorow"Originally posted by X Ring
I told them I that i was doing this program and would be eating more of my own stuff/ seperate meals and my mother took it as an insult to her cooking.![]()
just something you gotta get used to. you know what does help though, is going through "it" with someone else. i don't know much, but what i do know is when i have to go home from college in a month and eventually look for my own apt., i'm gonna wanna live w/ someone who is into BB, no question.
You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst.
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thanks man. I know exactly what you are talking about and when I was on my own in my apt. at school it was easier. And I had a lifting buddy, who didnt eat all that great but at least understood what I was doing. After this summer it will be different, i'm movin somewhere. Can't live home anymore
OK so maybe some journal stuff now. I was going to start the program today but I lifted yesterday and was going to have to lift the same muscles today, dont have my diet straight, dont really know if this is something I should be doing to reach my goal of building mass. I should have answers to this soon hopefully and look to hopefully start Monday April 12, 2004
Today was a mess food wise. I wont even dare to log it. I need to find an example of a diet for someone clean mass building with low fat gain if not losing some fat. If you have anything post it.
Just wanted to say whats up, and look forward to following. I will be starting monday also.
P-side Inc.
"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.
Chicken, Chicken and more ChickenOriginally posted by X Ring
I need to find an example of a diet for someone clean mass building with low fat gain if not losing some fat. If you have anything post it.
Steak
Tuna
LF Hamburger
Cottage Cheese
FF Milk
Oats
Grits
Rice
Veggies
Fruit
thats about it bro![]()
You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst.
* Got juice?*Need Motivation?*How to Train*
*Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio*
*YEAH BUDDY...LIGHT WEIGHT!*Ahhnold*
thanks flex
did deads and legs today, almost passed out at the end it was pretty fucking cool.
I did rack dead and dont really enjoy them all that much, pulling almost the same weight from the floor which was 405x8, 455x3, 455x2.
SLDL 315x6, for 2 sets (no step used)
9 plates/ side on leg press for 14 reps then down a plate at a time to 6 plate /side 14-22 reps. Those are the highlights
Since I can't edit my post up top I gotta put it here. Pretty sure diet will be a clean bulk around 4400 cals wil 400-500 g protien/day. Making it like 40/30/30 or so? I might go to 50/25/25 at some point if I can do 40/30/30 ok.fitday log again
the stats and definitely the pictures scared the shit out of me. I guess my eating really got horrible, much worse than I thought. I took in more calories at school but never looked this bad, b/c I wasnt eating shit. I dont know if I will post them. Im definitely embarassed. Anyway here are the stats:
•All measurements taken cold
•Weight: 244 lbs
•BF%: unknown
•Upper leg (standing): L: 27” R: 27”
•Calves (standing): L: 16.5” R: 16.5”
•Waist: 40.5” (YIKES)
•Chest (unflexed): 49”
•Shoulder ?(not flexed): 53”
•Neck (unflexed): 17.25”
•Forearm (flexed) L: 14.5” R: 14”
•Forearm (not flexed) L: 13” R: 12.75”
•Upper Arm (not flexed) L: 16” R: 15.5”
•Bicep flexed L: 17.5” R: 17”
•Tricep flexed L: 16.33” R: 16”
As you can see I have some symmetry problem. I might have some nerve damage on my right side (entire side) and I am right side dominant, should probably see a doctor for that
Post them. Dont be chicken shit haha!
As for BF% try that calculator someone posted. Seems to be almost right on for men...
P-side Inc.
"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.
ok I will look for that, no man you dont want to see me I added 3" to my waist since september 03. It just isnt decent
Here ya go. Body fat estimator
P-side Inc.
"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.
Hey X ring how's it going bro. How long have you been seriously lifting?
He who speaks least, think's most.
started first year of college doing it socially which was 5 years ago. Got serious about it my sophomore year so I guess 4 years. But I wasnt serious about my diet until end of my junior year and my senior year and as you know that has fallen apart but it will be better now
really felt the legs and back today, I like hobbiling along. didnt lift today. On a side note I got in a fight with my gf of 5.5yrs last night over this program and lifting in general. Then she thought I was going to become a "steriod junkie" and turn into the guy in "The Program" movie. Ahh i dont know, lifting isnt leaving anytime soon so if she doesnt like it, she is
I totally understand what you mean. My wife gets so pissed when she see's me packing my gym bag. She just rolls her eyes and says again. She is acutlly loving me more now that two of my workouts are at 5 in the morning and she is still sleaping. Its really hard for someone to understand how important it is to you when they dont do it themsevles. How come you like hobling around after leg day. To me I feel like an old man that can hardly walk. Now if it was my chest or my lats I like to raise my arms up to feel how good it hurts.Originally posted by X Ring
really felt the legs and back today, I like hobbiling along. didnt lift today. On a side note I got in a fight with my gf of 5.5yrs last night over this program and lifting in general. Then she thought I was going to become a "steriod junkie" and turn into the guy in "The Program" movie. Ahh i dont know, lifting isnt leaving anytime soon so if she doesnt like it, she is
He who speaks least, think's most.
Hey X, looks like almost all of us are starting on the same day- the 12th! Cool. I look forward to your progress with this program. Are you going to post the pics? Looking at the program I think it's a great way to lose BF and either cut or do a Body recomp while still putting muscle on.
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