This Boy's Life

M.J.H. · 04-27-2004, 09:23 PM

I am so friggin' confused at this point. Here is a face pic from the 1st page of this journal:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=607604

The guy here looks nothing like the guy in PreMier's post #144, IMO.

If you look back to the first page of this journal, and even on the 2nd page, SF posted a bunch of pics. Varying in weights, etc. Honestly, in the pictures posted the guy doesn't even have a similar build to be 100% honest. Okay, the guy in this pic looks to be tall and slender looking, with extremely long arms, developed traps, and somewhat narrow shoulders, and a tatoo on his right shoulder and right upper arm:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609288

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609290

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609291

But then, this picture, the guy looks to have much darker hair:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609289

Now here, the guy has a much rounder face, still darker hair, and just thicker all around, yet with shorter arms than the guy in the first pics:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609292

Also, in this pic, where is the tatoo on his right shoulder?

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609295

I am just so confused. Ever since you pointed out that the guy in SF's most recent pics actually doesn't have tatoos at all, it makes me question everything.

Another thing, why black out your tatoos in some pics, and not others?

M.J.H. · 04-27-2004, 09:44 PM

Damnit.

I hate this crap so friggin' much. Because SF has helped me out so much. Always backed me in a lot of things and always just given me great advice. I think that he can contribute a lot to IM. And I really don't want to lose him. I honestly do not think SF is the kind of guy to simply walk away from this kind of thing.

But I am going to post a few comparison shots. These are all supposed to be SF, which I think is nearly impossible. The guys hard have similar builds, skin tones, etc. Compare the nipples from the pictures, they're not the same, or the shape of the pecs, not at all the same. Look at the ears in the 2 front on pics, one has ears that stick out some, and the other has ears that don't stick out at all.

In this pic, look how developed his traps are, and how dark his hair is... darker than all of the pics in the image I attached:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609289

PreMier · 04-27-2004, 09:50 PM

Yup, I also noticed the chest differences. And like I said before, he is very smart, and does give some good advice. But I do not know why someone needs to lie.

M.J.H. · 04-27-2004, 09:54 PM

I am sure that SF is going to clear all of this up tomorrow, he's not the type of guy at all to do this sort of thing. At least not in my experience. I mean the guy has so much to offer, like you said I don't see any reason at all to lead everyone to believe that you're someone you're not.

BTW, PreMier, who is Luke Mueller anyway? Someone that you know or what?

M.J.H. · 04-27-2004, 09:56 PM

I mean honestly it wasn't even a good job at leading us on, this is why the whole thing confuses me so much. This pic SF attached in page 1:

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=607604

Now this guy has reddish hair, etc. In some of the other pics he has blonde hair, and some of the pics he has dark brown hair. I am just so friggin' confused. I can't wait for SF to clear all this up.

PreMier · 04-27-2004, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MonStar
BTW, PreMier, who is Luke Mueller anyway? Someone that you know or what?

Here is Kevins website. I have never met Luke, but these guys are pretty inspirational.

http://web.mit.edu/kevtrice/www/index.html

GRIFF · 04-27-2004, 10:56 PM

sad sad sad if this is all true man, I just told you today how appreciative I was for the info you had. No reason to leave this place, just cut the shit, you're knowledge would be missed.

atherjen · 04-28-2004, 09:03 AM

well I'll be darned... had me tricked!

what I dont understand is WHY the lies???

no one would have thought less of you for not being that huge "other" guy.

Sapphire · 04-28-2004, 12:04 PM

Maybe there is a good explanation......

Monolith · 04-28-2004, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sapphire
Maybe there is a good explanation......

There might be an explanation, but i doubt its good.

naturaltan · 04-28-2004, 01:48 PM

I had read this thread once but was confused with the low bench when compared to the huge squat and deadlift. The only reason I would question that is because my PB benching is 245 for a couple reps and I can only deadlift maybe 315 for a few reps and squat again not very much. Although these totals may be true, it's just a bit off if you ask me.

Saturday Fever · 04-29-2004, 01:14 AM

Quote:

I can't wait for SF to clear all this up.

There is no clearing it up. I'm a phony. A fake. A fraud. You've been hoodwinked. Bamboozled.

I know nothing, I am nothing.

If what I know and have said has helped you, I'm glad. If what I say offends you because it is so obscenely correct, I apologize. But I am not who or what I say I am.

If what I know can help you, I would be thrilled to assist. What I know is genuine, I am not. It was never my intention to build confidence and destroy it. I realize now that I'm a pretty fucked up person. Anyone else in my position would have been happy just to help. I wasn't. I wanted to help and inspire. What I never realized, and probably still don't, is that the results the people I've helped have seen have been nothing less than inspiring. Especially to me. I realize now I grew jealous of the people I was helping. Why should my ideas and my theories work for them and not as well for me?

I am a fake. What I know, what I can help create, and what I am are all very different things. There's nothing else to say.

M.J.H. · 04-29-2004, 01:21 AM

Damn, SF, this was one of the greatest posts that I have ever read. I honestly give you more credit than you'll ever know for coming clean about the whole situation. Please, please, please stay here at IM, guys like me could use your support and advice.

Sapphire · 04-29-2004, 06:22 AM

Very cool of you to admit you messed up! It takes a big person to do that, please stay on IM.

GRIFF · 04-29-2004, 09:18 AM

holy crap, that almost braught a tear to my eye, haha but seriously stick around and keep at it, shit man you'll have no problem gettin as big as you want or look however you want with the stuff you know. dont worry about it man, bygones, takes a real man to admit somethin like that.

M.J.H. · 04-29-2004, 09:35 AM

Yeah I agree completely with what has been said SF. Definitely stick around, no one here thinks less of you, I am sure that Prince can just delete this journal. You honestly have so much to offer and so much knowledge to give, there's absolutely no reason not to stick around.

Monolith · 04-29-2004, 09:37 AM

Well man, admitting youre wrong is one of the hardest things you can do. I certainly tend to avoid admitting it as much as possible. Shit, even showing your face around here after all this went down takes a lot of balls.

So are we gonna get a real pic of you, and some real stats, now?

atherjen · 04-29-2004, 11:13 AM

ok I think we can wipe your slate clean! that took guts to post.
so how about letting us get to know the real you?

Saturday Fever · 04-29-2004, 11:36 AM

Who said anything about leaving or not sticking around?

Real stats, someone asked. Well, my lifting stats are legit, but I suppose that has to be reproven now doesn't it.

I stand 6'4. I weigh 210. I've got 9 tats. 4 on my right arm, 3 on my traps, one on my lower back and a new (and especially painful) addition around my belly button. Combined with my belly button being pierced and my belly is downright sexy. :P

I heard mention in the ruckus about hair color. I have brown hair that gets darker as it gets longer. I tend to keep my hair as short as possible, if not gone altogether. My facial hair is as red as can be. What can I say, being Irish does have one downfall.

I will keep my journal here. I'm not going to request its removal or start another one. I'll own up to what happened.

I'll always help. Anyone, anytime. It's what I'm good at.

M.J.H. · 04-29-2004, 11:47 AM

Great post SF.

What is your bench/squat/deadlift? You're saying that everything is legit except your pictures or what?

Saturday Fever · 04-29-2004, 11:58 AM

The signature is legit. I figure the best way to prove it is to compete in another USAPL Meet. They always post the scoresheets on their website, so that would make things clear.

May 22nd, 2004 - USPF Battle of the Bay Benchpress and Deadlift Championship - Livermore, CA

If you guys can bear with me until then, I'll happily make things known.

M.J.H. · 04-29-2004, 12:06 PM

We can absolutely bear with you SF. Videos at the meet would be even more useful.

ncgirl21 · 04-29-2004, 12:07 PM

Hey SF! I think it took a lot of guts to come clean!! We're any of the pictures you? Anyhow- your lifts are impressive- hope to still see you around!!

Saturday Fever · 04-29-2004, 03:31 PM

Yes, many of the pics were me.

Saturday Fever · 04-29-2004, 06:02 PM

ME Lower Bench Day

Flat Bench (index in the ring)
45x3
135x3
185x3
205x3
225x3
245x2 (fuck, 3rd froze right off my chest)

Close Grip Decline
5 sets of 5 with 235

3 Board Press (index on the ring)
245x1
265x1
275x1

2 Board Press
255x1

1 Board Press
265x0
255x1

DB Rows
2 sets of 10 with 75

Side Laterals
3 sets of 8 with 30

This is definitely pushing the limits of reaonable volume. What I really like about this idea is that all my triceps work is coming from heavy (for me) benching. As long as I keep finding the 3RM on my first lift within 5 sets or so, I think this is going to work wonders. The Upper ME day will be a blast, I think. My lockout strength is far superior to my strength coming off the chest.

Saturday Fever · 04-30-2004, 10:01 AM

ME Sq/DL Day

Suspended Good AMs
45x3
135x1
185x1
225x1
275x1
295x1

Rack Pulls (plates about 6" off the ground)
315x1
405x1
495x1
585x1
675x1

One Legged Squats
3 sets of 8 with 150

Abs
200

OK so the one legged squats was hilarious.

04-27-2004, 09:23 PM	#151
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	I am so friggin' confused at this point. Here is a face pic from the 1st page of this journal: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=607604 The guy here looks nothing like the guy in PreMier's post #144, IMO. If you look back to the first page of this journal, and even on the 2nd page, SF posted a bunch of pics. Varying in weights, etc. Honestly, in the pictures posted the guy doesn't even have a similar build to be 100% honest. Okay, the guy in this pic looks to be tall and slender looking, with extremely long arms, developed traps, and somewhat narrow shoulders, and a tatoo on his right shoulder and right upper arm: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609288 http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609290 http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609291 But then, this picture, the guy looks to have much darker hair: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609289 Now here, the guy has a much rounder face, still darker hair, and just thicker all around, yet with shorter arms than the guy in the first pics: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609292 Also, in this pic, where is the tatoo on his right shoulder? http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609295 I am just so confused. Ever since you pointed out that the guy in SF's most recent pics actually doesn't have tatoos at all, it makes me question everything. Another thing, why black out your tatoos in some pics, and not others?
	Stats! 23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat 380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current) 405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals) The M.J.H. Chronicles

04-27-2004, 09:44 PM	#152
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	Damnit. I hate this crap so friggin' much. Because SF has helped me out so much. Always backed me in a lot of things and always just given me great advice. I think that he can contribute a lot to IM. And I really don't want to lose him. I honestly do not think SF is the kind of guy to simply walk away from this kind of thing. But I am going to post a few comparison shots. These are all supposed to be SF, which I think is nearly impossible. The guys hard have similar builds, skin tones, etc. Compare the nipples from the pictures, they're not the same, or the shape of the pecs, not at all the same. Look at the ears in the 2 front on pics, one has ears that stick out some, and the other has ears that don't stick out at all. In this pic, look how developed his traps are, and how dark his hair is... darker than all of the pics in the image I attached: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=609289
	Stats! 23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat 380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current) 405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals) The M.J.H. Chronicles

04-27-2004, 09:50 PM	#153
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,088 Photos: 2	Yup, I also noticed the chest differences. And like I said before, he is very smart, and does give some good advice. But I do not know why someone needs to lie.
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

04-27-2004, 09:54 PM	#154
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	I am sure that SF is going to clear all of this up tomorrow, he's not the type of guy at all to do this sort of thing. At least not in my experience. I mean the guy has so much to offer, like you said I don't see any reason at all to lead everyone to believe that you're someone you're not. BTW, PreMier, who is Luke Mueller anyway? Someone that you know or what?
	Stats! 23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat 380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current) 405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals) The M.J.H. Chronicles

04-27-2004, 09:56 PM	#155
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	I mean honestly it wasn't even a good job at leading us on, this is why the whole thing confuses me so much. This pic SF attached in page 1: http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...&postid=607604 Now this guy has reddish hair, etc. In some of the other pics he has blonde hair, and some of the pics he has dark brown hair. I am just so friggin' confused. I can't wait for SF to clear all this up.
	Stats! 23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat 380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current) 405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals) The M.J.H. Chronicles

04-27-2004, 10:56 PM	#157
GRIFF SP's Finest Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Portland, Maine Posts: 230 Photos: 2	sad sad sad if this is all true man, I just told you today how appreciative I was for the info you had. No reason to leave this place, just cut the shit, you're knowledge would be missed.
	JGRIFF'S Road to Rock-Diesel "Forgiveness is between them and God. It's my job to arrange the meeting..." Bench: 305 Squat: 345 Dead: 465

04-28-2004, 09:03 AM	#158
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	well I'll be darned... had me tricked! what I dont understand is WHY the lies??? no one would have thought less of you for not being that huge "other" guy.
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

04-28-2004, 12:04 PM	#159
Sapphire P/RR/S groupie Join Date: May 2003 Location: anywhere my love Chris is... Posts: 4,449 Photos: 4	Maybe there is a good explanation......
	Sapphire "Thank goodness that perfection is something I will never reach, which will keep me striving till the day I die" ...... GOPRO http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...chmentid=17570 http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...chmentid=17638 http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...chmentid=17567 http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...chmentid=17622

04-28-2004, 01:48 PM	#161
naturaltan Going nowhere fast! Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 9,927 Photos: 7	I had read this thread once but was confused with the low bench when compared to the huge squat and deadlift. The only reason I would question that is because my PB benching is 245 for a couple reps and I can only deadlift maybe 315 for a few reps and squat again not very much. Although these totals may be true, it's just a bit off if you ask me.
	just kick'in it in the ole Charger

04-29-2004, 01:21 AM	#163
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	Damn, SF, this was one of the greatest posts that I have ever read. I honestly give you more credit than you'll ever know for coming clean about the whole situation. Please, please, please stay here at IM, guys like me could use your support and advice.
	Stats! 23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat 380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current) 405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals) The M.J.H. Chronicles

04-29-2004, 06:22 AM	#164
Sapphire P/RR/S groupie Join Date: May 2003 Location: anywhere my love Chris is... Posts: 4,449 Photos: 4	Very cool of you to admit you messed up! It takes a big person to do that, please stay on IM.
	Sapphire "Thank goodness that perfection is something I will never reach, which will keep me striving till the day I die" ...... GOPRO http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...chmentid=17570 http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...chmentid=17638 http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...chmentid=17567 http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/at...chmentid=17622

04-29-2004, 09:18 AM	#165
GRIFF SP's Finest Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Portland, Maine Posts: 230 Photos: 2	holy crap, that almost braught a tear to my eye, haha but seriously stick around and keep at it, shit man you'll have no problem gettin as big as you want or look however you want with the stuff you know. dont worry about it man, bygones, takes a real man to admit somethin like that.
	JGRIFF'S Road to Rock-Diesel "Forgiveness is between them and God. It's my job to arrange the meeting..." Bench: 305 Squat: 345 Dead: 465

04-29-2004, 09:35 AM	#166
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	Yeah I agree completely with what has been said SF. Definitely stick around, no one here thinks less of you, I am sure that Prince can just delete this journal. You honestly have so much to offer and so much knowledge to give, there's absolutely no reason not to stick around.
	Stats! 23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat 380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current) 405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals) The M.J.H. Chronicles

04-29-2004, 09:37 AM	#167
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Well man, admitting youre wrong is one of the hardest things you can do. I certainly tend to avoid admitting it as much as possible. Shit, even showing your face around here after all this went down takes a lot of balls. So are we gonna get a real pic of you, and some real stats, now?
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

04-29-2004, 11:13 AM	#168
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	ok I think we can wipe your slate clean! that took guts to post. so how about letting us get to know the real you?
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

04-29-2004, 11:36 AM	#169
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	Who said anything about leaving or not sticking around? Real stats, someone asked. Well, my lifting stats are legit, but I suppose that has to be reproven now doesn't it. I stand 6'4. I weigh 210. I've got 9 tats. 4 on my right arm, 3 on my traps, one on my lower back and a new (and especially painful) addition around my belly button. Combined with my belly button being pierced and my belly is downright sexy. :P I heard mention in the ruckus about hair color. I have brown hair that gets darker as it gets longer. I tend to keep my hair as short as possible, if not gone altogether. My facial hair is as red as can be. What can I say, being Irish does have one downfall. I will keep my journal here. I'm not going to request its removal or start another one. I'll own up to what happened. I'll always help. Anyone, anytime. It's what I'm good at.
	yay.

04-29-2004, 11:47 AM	#170
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	Great post SF. What is your bench/squat/deadlift? You're saying that everything is legit except your pictures or what?
	Stats! 23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat 380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current) 405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals) The M.J.H. Chronicles

04-29-2004, 11:58 AM	#171
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	The signature is legit. I figure the best way to prove it is to compete in another USAPL Meet. They always post the scoresheets on their website, so that would make things clear. May 22nd, 2004 - USPF Battle of the Bay Benchpress and Deadlift Championship - Livermore, CA If you guys can bear with me until then, I'll happily make things known.
	yay.

04-29-2004, 12:06 PM	#172
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	We can absolutely bear with you SF. Videos at the meet would be even more useful.
	Stats! 23 years old, 5'11.5", 206 lbs., ~8% bodyfat 380/455/655 bench/squat/deadlift (current) 405/495/675 bench/squat/deadlift (goals) The M.J.H. Chronicles

04-29-2004, 12:07 PM	#173
ncgirl21 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,134	Hey SF! I think it took a lot of guts to come clean!! We're any of the pictures you? Anyhow- your lifts are impressive- hope to still see you around!!
	http://stephlg.proboards44.com/index.cgi#general

04-29-2004, 03:31 PM	#174
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	Yes, many of the pics were me.
	yay.

04-29-2004, 06:02 PM	#175
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	ME Lower Bench Day Flat Bench (index in the ring) 45x3 135x3 185x3 205x3 225x3 245x2 (fuck, 3rd froze right off my chest) Close Grip Decline 5 sets of 5 with 235 3 Board Press (index on the ring) 245x1 265x1 275x1 2 Board Press 255x1 1 Board Press 265x0 255x1 DB Rows 2 sets of 10 with 75 Side Laterals 3 sets of 8 with 30 This is definitely pushing the limits of reaonable volume. What I really like about this idea is that all my triceps work is coming from heavy (for me) benching. As long as I keep finding the 3RM on my first lift within 5 sets or so, I think this is going to work wonders. The Upper ME day will be a blast, I think. My lockout strength is far superior to my strength coming off the chest.
	yay.

04-30-2004, 10:01 AM	#176
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	ME Sq/DL Day Suspended Good AMs 45x3 135x1 185x1 225x1 275x1 295x1 Rack Pulls (plates about 6" off the ground) 315x1 405x1 495x1 585x1 675x1 One Legged Squats 3 sets of 8 with 150 Abs 200 OK so the one legged squats was hilarious.
	yay.