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Saturday Fever · 04-22-2004, 01:33 PM

Changing the sets up shouldn't matter much at all. Nor would I worry about heavy singles affecting hypertrophy. With the overall work you're doing, and the intensity of the singles, hypertrophy is going to happen.

PreMier · 04-22-2004, 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by MonStar
Also, how do you feel about my going for heavy singles all the time, is this a bad idea? I am training a bit more for hypertrophy than strength at this point so I am trying to decide what's the best way to go about that.

Hi Mike-
Everything looks good

However... There is a reason that bodybuilders train in the 6-12 rep range, as apposed to powerlifters in the 1-4.

Saturday Fever · 04-22-2004, 04:32 PM

What reason is that?

PreMier · 04-22-2004, 04:55 PM

Building muscle mass. Strength training and BB are 2 different games. Sure one comes with the other, but each has their reasons for what they do.
Powerlifters do fewer reps to increase strength. Sure they also build muscle, but do they look like a BB? No.

If you want to look like a BB, then you need to train like one.

Saturday Fever · 04-22-2004, 05:13 PM

OK, I see where this is trying to go.

Why are bodybuilders so "cut"? So well-defined? Why can you see every fiber in their pecs? BECAUSE THEY ARE DEHYDRATED TO DANGEROUS LEVELS. Nevermind the hideous amounts of steroids in their system. News flash: Taking a good hefty SHIT will induce hypertrophy when you're on as much juice as a bodybuilder.

Do you honestly believe it is the routine that makes a bodybuilder look the way they do? Do you honestly think a bodybuilder (with possibly the exception of Ronnie Coleman, who coincidentally uses a powerlifting routine) is anywhere near as strong as a powerlifter?

Here's something FLEX magazine doesn't want you to know either, coincidentally: Ronnie Coleman uses a powerlifting routine. Squats and deads like a Westside'r, benches like Metal Militia.

Also, just to add science to the mix (since science is pretty exact, the only variable here being genetics) I refer to the studies of Mel Siff and Yuri Verkhoshansky. Hypertrophy is attained by stimulating the muscle to varying degrees for varying lengths of time. You've probably heard this referred to incorrectly as Time Under Tension (TUT).

Their studies proved that the results of 8 reps were identical for hypertrophy purposes to sets of 1, when the amount of tension was adjusted accordingly. Their studies proved that the results of 12 reps were identical for hypertrophy purposes to sets of 1, when the amount of tension was adjusted accordingly.

They also proved that no amount of time would stimulate hypertrophy if the amount of tension was not adequate. This is why you can't pick up a 5lb dumbbell and curl it for 3 hours and expect to increase the size of your biceps.

So I submit to you that routine has nil effect on hypertrophy.

PreMier · 04-22-2004, 05:28 PM

Well, this wasnt going to go the way of steroids or dieting.

No, I dont think a BB is as strong as a powerlifter. But I also dont think that a PL looks anything like a BB. Sorry, but there is method to the madness. Like I said strenght training and BB are 2 different things. One is tossing weight, and the other is sculpting a physique. Obviously it does matter what type of exercises you do, otherwise all the BB wouldnt be training in the higher rep range. Take a look at GoPro's program. Take a look at him. He doesnt use the lower rep range, why?

Saturday Fever · 04-22-2004, 05:31 PM

Take a look at Ronnie Coleman. He uses a powerlifting routine. Shall we continue? And I can't believe you said "sculpt."

BTW, what is gopro's real name? I'd like to look him up in the shows he's been in.

atherjen · 04-22-2004, 05:33 PM

hehe I love it when guys debate training methods!

Mike, awesome work on the push press's!

get a good nite sleep tonite too!!

Monolith · 04-22-2004, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Saturday Fever
Take a look at Ronnie Coleman. He uses a powerlifting routine. Shall we continue? And I can't believe you said "sculpt."

BTW, what is gopro's real name? I'd like to look him up in the shows he's been in.

Ronnie has awful form for most stuff, and has $10 grand worth of juice dumped into his blood every month.

I see the point youre making, but Ronnie is really a horrible example.

PreMier · 04-22-2004, 05:36 PM

Ok, RC uses a PL routine. Thats one in how many?
Can you believe that in Pumping Iron Arnold uses the same word? He states that a BB needs to be like a sculptor. You need to look at yourself, and find what muscles need more mass, and which ones are fine. BB is an art.

His name is Eric. I dont know his last name sorry.

Saturday Fever · 04-22-2004, 05:48 PM

Arnold said a lot of things in Pumping Iron. He also had the biggest ego the world has ever seen. He was a genetic freak, the luckiest of the lucky. But one thing he was not at the time was a brilliant person. So I take what he said in that movie with a grain of salt.

And I'm going to assume you're not familiar with the structure of most modern day powerlifting routines. All of them allow for the lifter to focus on whatever bodypart he needs to bring up. Be it calves, chest, whatever.

It all goes back to the way a bodybuilder preps. Take a look at offseason bodybuilders. Take a look at in season bodybuilders. Note the level of dehydration when they're in-season. There's your answer.

Saturday Fever · 04-22-2004, 05:50 PM

OH, and for what it's worth:

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Ok, RC uses a PL routine. Thats one in how many?

How many others have won the Olympia in the last, say, 7 years?

PreMier · 04-22-2004, 05:52 PM

Even in the off season(bulking) BB'ers are more muscular than powerlifters.

You can train for PL and I can train for BB. Its as simple as that.

PreMier · 04-22-2004, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Saturday Fever
OH, and for what it's worth:

How many others have won the Olympia in the last, say, 7 years?

Obviously he is a genetic freak. But if Dorian had never injured his arm, then RC wouldnt have become the olympian for a few more years. Also RC doesnt look the best aesthetically. Not even close.

Saturday Fever · 04-22-2004, 06:08 PM

Yeah, OK.

Saturday Fever · 04-22-2004, 06:11 PM

Anywho, I showed with both science and a very practical example that routine means squat. If you can't agree, you're just being argumentative. And I don't see that it needs to continue in a journal.

PreMier · 04-22-2004, 06:14 PM

Ofcourse I am arguing. I dont think you are right. But your right, like I said we can each train our own ways. Because I believe high volume brings more muscle fibers into play, and increases vascularity. To each his own

Peep this link. Its pretty cool, and see if we agree that RC isnt the best looking aesthetically. His sheer size is how he wins IMO.
http://ironage.us/virtual/index.html

M.J.H. · 04-22-2004, 06:45 PM

SF- Okay man, I am going to try and respond to a lot of what you said, lol.

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Changing the sets up shouldn't matter much at all. Nor would I worry about heavy singles affecting hypertrophy. With the overall work you're doing, and the intensity of the singles, hypertrophy is going to happen.

This is great to hear. I basically just wanted to double check, I didn't think that the heavy singles/doubles/triples really mattered that much, as long as I was constantly changing the exercise, etc. I am going to continue changing things up. Trying to decide between legs and cardio/abs tomorrow---at this point I am really thinking legs, but we'll have to wait and see.

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Also, just to add science to the mix (since science is pretty exact, the only variable here being genetics) I refer to the studies of Mel Siff and Yuri Verkhoshansky. Hypertrophy is attained by stimulating the muscle to varying degrees for varying lengths of time. You've probably heard this referred to incorrectly as Time Under Tension (TUT).

I was hoping that you would bring up Mel Siff. I am thinking that it is safe to say that you use the book "Supertraining" as your main source of information?

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Their studies proved that the results of 8 reps were identical for hypertrophy purposes to sets of 1, when the amount of tension was adjusted accordingly. Their studies proved that the results of 12 reps were identical for hypertrophy purposes to sets of 1, when the amount of tension was adjusted accordingly.

Great point, I completely agree.

Quote:

Anywho, I showed with both science and a very practical example that routine means squat. If you can't agree, you're just being argumentative. And I don't see that it needs to continue in a journal.

Thanks for taking this into consideration. As much as I love having a lot of great debating in my journal, it takes up so much damn space, lol. You have made your point and honestly IMO, there isn't much more to say at all. Powerlifters and bodybuilders these days look so similar. I remember when I first met the group of powerlifters from my gym. Arouind 12-13 guys or so who I thought at first were bodybuilders.

PreMier- Thanks for posting your insight man, really appreciate it. If you guys really want to consider the debate maybe create a thread in the training forum, appreciate it.

BTW man, nice link, I enjoyed it.

Jen- I just woke up from a nap for a little bit more than an hour, so right now I feel completely fine. And the push presses were just friggin' painful, ouch.

Monolith- I have to completely agree man. Bodybuilders these days are not only a bad example of how to train, but just abuse so many drugs that no matter what the hell they do in the gym, they're most likely going to grow like crazy. It's really honestly a shame, IMO. Thanks for chiming in.

Saturday Fever · 04-23-2004, 01:03 AM

I always use Supertraining as my source.

For a couple reasons. It isn't based on "pseudo-science." Dr. Siff wasn't sitting around for 2 months making shit up and decided to write a book. He worked for YEARS to develop his book. On top of his own work, it also cites numerous works from Russian PhD's. Basically Supertraining is the summation of 60 years of proven science.

One other point. Look at the guys who use Westside and Metal Militia routines. These routines are based 100% on the ideas discussed in Supertraining. These guys are HUGE. We're talking guys who are 6'6/320 and only carry 14% fat. Science doesn't lie.

gwcaton · 04-23-2004, 06:02 AM

Wow , I see havea lot of catching up to do in here. TGIF !

M.J.H. · 04-23-2004, 09:12 AM

SF- I agree that Supertraining is a great book. Even though for the average person IMO it's definitely quite complex. I had trouble making out a lot of what it was saying. It was basically like reading a science book to me, lol.

Gary- Thank God it's Friday, you're damn right. I am heading down to VA Beach on Sunday night so that should definitely be a lot of fun. Looking at a few colleges down there, etc. Thanks for chiming in man.

ncgirl21 · 04-23-2004, 09:31 AM

Have fun at VA Beach

M.J.H. · 04-23-2004, 09:34 AM

Andrea- You know I am definitely going to have a great time while I am in VA Beach. As long as everything turns out the way that I want it to...

M.J.H. · 04-23-2004, 11:41 AM

Friday, 4-23-2004

Diet:
- whey protein + 2% milk, whole-wheat toast
- Gatorade during workout, whey protein postworkout
- 3 sweet & sour breaded chicken breasts
- turkey & cheese sandwich
- 1/2 turkey & cheese sandwich, apple
- 1/2 peanut butter sandwich, skim milk
- whey protein + 2% milk
- whole-wheat tuna sandwich
- MRP + 2% milk

Okay amount of food today. Ended up with a bit more than 360g of protein. Right around 4,700 calories today. Not bad.

Sleep: 6.5 hours. Woke up again and again I might add. I am almost 100% positive at this point that a side effect of S1+ is sleeplessness, damnit.

Weight: 221 lbs.

Legs

Sumo Deadlifts
135x12, 225x6, 315x3, 405x2, 495x1, 585x1, 625x0, 625x0

Hack Squats
640x2, 640x2, 640x2, 640x2, 640x2, 640x2, 640x2, 640x2

Nautilus Leg Extensions
Dropset: 250x8, 210x8, 170x8, 130x8, 100x8

Eh, overall workout today I would say f*cking sucked. This is 2 less than awesome workouts in a row for me, which means its definitely time for a rest day. As much as I hate to admit it, and as much as I hate taking rest days, I know that I have to sometimes. I mean training nearly 7 days a week is just not possible. Especially training as heavy as I do, etc. Tomorrow I am going to force myself to take a rest day, no matter what.

Okay, deadlifts today. I was going to start with SLDL. But then I thought what the f*ck, might as well do regular old sumo style deadlifts. I havn't done them in forever, and I would love to set a new PR on them. Anyway, worked up to 585 for a single. 585 honestly came up very smooth. Not too much hesitation, etc. Wore a belt for 585, by the way. Then tried 625, a 10 lbs. PR for me. It budged a few inches off the ground, but the strength just wasn't there today. F*ck, f*ck, f*ck, f*ck, and f*ck.

---Took a video of my attempt at 625, too. If anyone wants to see a missed deadlift attempt, let me know.

Tried 625 again just to piss myself off. Nothing. Anyway, onto something more productive. I hit 640 on hack squats for 8 sets of 2. These sets were INTENSE, very very close to failure. On about half the sets I just barely completed the 2nd rep. So I really think I picked a good weight. Finished up with a leg extension dropset. Quads were literally on friggin' fire. No complaints there at all.

Day 17 today of S1+. Whatever. I am somewhat frustrated at this point. Even though my calories and protein are much better now than they have ever been. I can still tell though that I am just really pushing myself a bit too hard. I am completely in love with the gym, and that's causing me I think to not take ANY rest days. Which as we all know can be bad. Especially since my sleep the past 2 nights hasn't been as good as I would have liked. Whatever. Need to stay positive and move forward.

Going to Virginia Beach this Sunday night for a few days. Going to most likely workout at Bally's, which I can't wait to do, I absolutely LOVE it there!

Saturday Fever · 04-23-2004, 11:49 AM

I saw the video. I already told you but I'll say it again. Do some pulling with an increased ROM (4-6") and in a couple weeks 625 will come up like nothing.

As far as the sleeplessness goes, perhaps some ZMA before bed would help. Besides, ZMA is good stuff anyways.

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04-22-2004, 04:32 PM	#183
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	What reason is that?
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04-22-2004, 04:55 PM	#184
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,054 Photos: 2	Building muscle mass. Strength training and BB are 2 different games. Sure one comes with the other, but each has their reasons for what they do. Powerlifters do fewer reps to increase strength. Sure they also build muscle, but do they look like a BB? No. If you want to look like a BB, then you need to train like one.
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

04-22-2004, 05:13 PM	#185
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	OK, I see where this is trying to go. Why are bodybuilders so "cut"? So well-defined? Why can you see every fiber in their pecs? BECAUSE THEY ARE DEHYDRATED TO DANGEROUS LEVELS. Nevermind the hideous amounts of steroids in their system. News flash: Taking a good hefty SHIT will induce hypertrophy when you're on as much juice as a bodybuilder. Do you honestly believe it is the routine that makes a bodybuilder look the way they do? Do you honestly think a bodybuilder (with possibly the exception of Ronnie Coleman, who coincidentally uses a powerlifting routine) is anywhere near as strong as a powerlifter? Here's something FLEX magazine doesn't want you to know either, coincidentally: Ronnie Coleman uses a powerlifting routine. Squats and deads like a Westside'r, benches like Metal Militia. Also, just to add science to the mix (since science is pretty exact, the only variable here being genetics) I refer to the studies of Mel Siff and Yuri Verkhoshansky. Hypertrophy is attained by stimulating the muscle to varying degrees for varying lengths of time. You've probably heard this referred to incorrectly as Time Under Tension (TUT). Their studies proved that the results of 8 reps were identical for hypertrophy purposes to sets of 1, when the amount of tension was adjusted accordingly. Their studies proved that the results of 12 reps were identical for hypertrophy purposes to sets of 1, when the amount of tension was adjusted accordingly. They also proved that no amount of time would stimulate hypertrophy if the amount of tension was not adequate. This is why you can't pick up a 5lb dumbbell and curl it for 3 hours and expect to increase the size of your biceps. So I submit to you that routine has nil effect on hypertrophy.
	yay.

04-22-2004, 05:28 PM	#186
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,054 Photos: 2	Well, this wasnt going to go the way of steroids or dieting. No, I dont think a BB is as strong as a powerlifter. But I also dont think that a PL looks anything like a BB. Sorry, but there is method to the madness. Like I said strenght training and BB are 2 different things. One is tossing weight, and the other is sculpting a physique. Obviously it does matter what type of exercises you do, otherwise all the BB wouldnt be training in the higher rep range. Take a look at GoPro's program. Take a look at him. He doesnt use the lower rep range, why?
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

04-22-2004, 05:31 PM	#187
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	Take a look at Ronnie Coleman. He uses a powerlifting routine. Shall we continue? And I can't believe you said "sculpt." BTW, what is gopro's real name? I'd like to look him up in the shows he's been in.
	yay.

04-22-2004, 05:33 PM	#188
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	hehe I love it when guys debate training methods! Mike, awesome work on the push press's! get a good nite sleep tonite too!!
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04-22-2004, 05:36 PM	#190
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,054 Photos: 2	Ok, RC uses a PL routine. Thats one in how many? Can you believe that in Pumping Iron Arnold uses the same word? He states that a BB needs to be like a sculptor. You need to look at yourself, and find what muscles need more mass, and which ones are fine. BB is an art. His name is Eric. I dont know his last name sorry.
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

04-22-2004, 05:48 PM	#191
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	Arnold said a lot of things in Pumping Iron. He also had the biggest ego the world has ever seen. He was a genetic freak, the luckiest of the lucky. But one thing he was not at the time was a brilliant person. So I take what he said in that movie with a grain of salt. And I'm going to assume you're not familiar with the structure of most modern day powerlifting routines. All of them allow for the lifter to focus on whatever bodypart he needs to bring up. Be it calves, chest, whatever. It all goes back to the way a bodybuilder preps. Take a look at offseason bodybuilders. Take a look at in season bodybuilders. Note the level of dehydration when they're in-season. There's your answer.
	yay.

04-22-2004, 05:52 PM	#193
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,054 Photos: 2	Even in the off season(bulking) BB'ers are more muscular than powerlifters. You can train for PL and I can train for BB. Its as simple as that.
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

04-22-2004, 06:08 PM	#195
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	Yeah, OK.
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04-22-2004, 06:11 PM	#196
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	Anywho, I showed with both science and a very practical example that routine means squat. If you can't agree, you're just being argumentative. And I don't see that it needs to continue in a journal.
	yay.

04-22-2004, 06:14 PM	#197
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,054 Photos: 2	Ofcourse I am arguing. I dont think you are right. But your right, like I said we can each train our own ways. Because I believe high volume brings more muscle fibers into play, and increases vascularity. To each his own Peep this link. Its pretty cool, and see if we agree that RC isnt the best looking aesthetically. His sheer size is how he wins IMO. http://ironage.us/virtual/index.html
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

04-23-2004, 01:03 AM	#199
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	I always use Supertraining as my source. For a couple reasons. It isn't based on "pseudo-science." Dr. Siff wasn't sitting around for 2 months making shit up and decided to write a book. He worked for YEARS to develop his book. On top of his own work, it also cites numerous works from Russian PhD's. Basically Supertraining is the summation of 60 years of proven science. One other point. Look at the guys who use Westside and Metal Militia routines. These routines are based 100% on the ideas discussed in Supertraining. These guys are HUGE. We're talking guys who are 6'6/320 and only carry 14% fat. Science doesn't lie.
	yay.

04-23-2004, 06:02 AM	#200
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04-23-2004, 09:12 AM	#201
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	SF- I agree that Supertraining is a great book. Even though for the average person IMO it's definitely quite complex. I had trouble making out a lot of what it was saying. It was basically like reading a science book to me, lol. Gary- Thank God it's Friday, you're damn right. I am heading down to VA Beach on Sunday night so that should definitely be a lot of fun. Looking at a few colleges down there, etc. Thanks for chiming in man.
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04-23-2004, 09:34 AM	#203
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	Andrea- You know I am definitely going to have a great time while I am in VA Beach. As long as everything turns out the way that I want it to...
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04-23-2004, 11:41 AM	#204
M.J.H. Obsessed Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Delaware Posts: 3,587 Photos: 12	Friday, 4-23-2004 Diet: - whey protein + 2% milk, whole-wheat toast - Gatorade during workout, whey protein postworkout - 3 sweet & sour breaded chicken breasts - turkey & cheese sandwich - 1/2 turkey & cheese sandwich, apple - 1/2 peanut butter sandwich, skim milk - whey protein + 2% milk - whole-wheat tuna sandwich - MRP + 2% milk Okay amount of food today. Ended up with a bit more than 360g of protein. Right around 4,700 calories today. Not bad. Sleep: 6.5 hours. Woke up again and again I might add. I am almost 100% positive at this point that a side effect of S1+ is sleeplessness, damnit. Weight: 221 lbs. Legs Sumo Deadlifts 135x12, 225x6, 315x3, 405x2, 495x1, 585x1, 625x0, 625x0 Hack Squats 640x2, 640x2, 640x2, 640x2, 640x2, 640x2, 640x2, 640x2 Nautilus Leg Extensions Dropset: 250x8, 210x8, 170x8, 130x8, 100x8 Eh, overall workout today I would say fcking sucked. This is 2 less than awesome workouts in a row for me, which means its definitely time for a rest day. As much as I hate to admit it, and as much as I hate taking rest days, I know that I have to sometimes. I mean training nearly 7 days a week is just not possible. Especially training as heavy as I do, etc. Tomorrow I am going to force myself to take a rest day, no matter what. Okay, deadlifts today. I was going to start with SLDL. But then I thought what the fck, might as well do regular old sumo style deadlifts. I havn't done them in forever, and I would love to set a new PR on them. Anyway, worked up to 585 for a single. 585 honestly came up very smooth. Not too much hesitation, etc. Wore a belt for 585, by the way. Then tried 625, a 10 lbs. PR for me. It budged a few inches off the ground, but the strength just wasn't there today. Fck, fck, fck, fck, and fck. ---Took a video of my attempt at 625, too. If anyone wants to see a missed deadlift attempt, let me know. Tried 625 again just to piss myself off. Nothing. Anyway, onto something more productive. I hit 640 on hack squats for 8 sets of 2. These sets were INTENSE, very very close to failure. On about half the sets I just barely completed the 2nd rep. So I really think I picked a good weight. Finished up with a leg extension dropset. Quads were literally on friggin' fire. No complaints there at all. Day 17 today of S1+. Whatever. I am somewhat frustrated at this point. Even though my calories and protein are much better now than they have ever been. I can still tell though that I am just really pushing myself a bit too hard. I am completely in love with the gym, and that's causing me I think to not take ANY rest days. Which as we all know can be bad. Especially since my sleep the past 2 nights hasn't been as good as I would have liked. Whatever. Need to stay positive and move forward. Going to Virginia Beach this Sunday night for a few days. Going to most likely workout at Bally's, which I can't wait to do, I absolutely LOVE it there! Last edited by M.J.H. : 04-23-2004 at 11:22 PM.*
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04-23-2004, 11:49 AM	#205
Saturday Fever Pimp Gimp Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 2,142 Photos: 4	I saw the video. I already told you but I'll say it again. Do some pulling with an increased ROM (4-6") and in a couple weeks 625 will come up like nothing. As far as the sleeplessness goes, perhaps some ZMA before bed would help. Besides, ZMA is good stuff anyways.
	yay.