Pepper's (Leptigen) Rebirth

Monolith · 04-23-2004, 02:07 PM

lmao

Yeah, i thought id been noticing a decreased sex drive too, but was gonna wait a few more days before saying anything.

Pepper · 04-24-2004, 08:24 AM

Wake Up Weight 4/24 293.0

Meals 4.23
Meal One: Leptigen + Pro Complex Shake
Meal Two: PWO shake - 100% Whey + 1/4 cup Oats
Meal Three: 5 oz chicken
Meal Four: Leptigen + Tuna Fillet (OK, they gave us free chips and queso b/c our food was so slow and I ate maybe four/five chips, not logged.)
Meal Five: 1/2 cup cottage cheese
Meal Six: Leptigen+ 6 oz turkey breast, brocollie, pat of butter and some Light-Done-Right dressing
Meal 7:Myoplex light shake

Totals:
Cals 1843
P: 277 (61%)
F: 51 (25%)
C: 62 (14%)

Pepper · 04-24-2004, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
lmao

Yeah, i thought id been noticing a decreased sex drive too, but was gonna wait a few more days before saying anything.

Actually, this is welcomed for me. My sex drive is too high normally.

Pepper · 04-26-2004, 01:29 PM

Sunday 4/25/04
Wake up weight 295

Meals (total)
Cals 2529
P 344 (60%)
F 72 (28%)
C 70 (12%)

Three doses of L-Rebirth and two doses of Sesathin.

Leg workout today, so I CRAVED protein all afternoon. THis is why the P and total cals are higher today.

Pepper · 04-26-2004, 01:31 PM

Monday, 4/26

Weight: 292.8

Meal 1: Leptigen + oats (ran out of time)
Meal 2: 2 chicken breasts + ff cheese
Meal 3: Leptigen + greek salad with about 3 or 4 oz of chicken
Meal 4: LC Lean Body + sesathin + fish oil
Meal 5: Rebirth + 8 oz chicken
Meal 6: Optimun PM Pro Complex + sesathin + creatine

Totals:
Cals 1928
Protein 188 (38.5%) too low
Fat: 99 (45.4%) too much
Carb: 78 (16%)

Monolith · 04-26-2004, 03:06 PM

Lookin good, Pepper.

Pepper · 04-27-2004, 07:51 AM

AM Weight: 292.6

Observations: Both me and my wife agree that my face and upper body look leaner. However, my midsection looks the same. Clearly, my face is thinner. The weight is ticking down, slowly, but down.

Meals:
1. Myoplex + 1/2 cup Oats
PWO: 100% Whey + 1/4 cup oats
2. two tyson frozen chicken breast with FF cheese

Pepper · 04-27-2004, 07:56 AM

Twin Peak...could you very quickly let me know if this journal is what your were expecting?

Twin Peak · 04-27-2004, 08:02 AM

Pepper · 04-28-2004, 12:51 PM

Totals for 4/27:
Cals: 2426
P 276.1 (46.7%)
F 99.14 (37.5%)
C 93.11 (15.7%)

Wakeup Weight 4/28: 292.4

Pepper · 04-28-2004, 12:54 PM

Meal 1: myoplex lite + 1/2 cup oats
Meal 2: 2 chicken breast + ff cheese + sesathin
Meal 3: Leptigen + 3 oz steak, 3 oz chicken, 3 oz shrimp (japanese restaraunt) + veggies (mostly onions)
Meal 4: LC Lean Body

Monolith · 04-28-2004, 01:52 PM

Have your measurements moved at all?

Pepper · 04-30-2004, 06:55 AM

Totals for 4/28:
Cals 2533
P 280 (45%)
F 103 (37%)
C 109 (17%)

These totals are little higher than I wanted b/c of a taco incident. The meat was lean, the cheese was ff and the wrap was Low Carb, but I simply had too much

Weight 4/29: not measured (woke up late and forgot)

Meals 4/29
1. Rebirth + Pro Complex shake
2. LC Lean Body + sesathin
3. LC Lean Body
4. Shrimp (14) + Fish Oil + Myoplex Light shake
5. Rebirth + 2 chicken breasts + ff cheese
6. Pro Complex PM + sesathin

Logged on slice of regular cheese but not sure where it fits.

but it is in the totals below.

Totals
Cals 1924
P 288 (61%)
F 59 (28%)
C 55 (11%)

Weight 4/30 AM: 290.0

Pepper · 04-30-2004, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
Have your measurements moved at all?

I am going to take those this weekend.

Pepper · 05-01-2004, 11:57 AM

I don't have my PocketPC with the calorie totals but here are my meals for Friday, April 30.

Meal 1: Rebirth + 1/2 cup oats, 2 scoops 100% Whey
Meal 2: LC Lean Body
Meal 3: BBQ chicken (meat only) + green beans + sesathin
Meal 4: 4 oz chicken
Meal 5: 1 beef taco on LC wrap
Meal 6: Rebirth + 2 chicken breast + sesathin

somewhere in there I had a couple of cookies and a Pop Tart....not sure why I just did...which makes the next post more interesting...

Pepper · 05-01-2004, 11:57 AM

Saturday Morning Weight: 290.2

Not bad considering the screw up with the sweets....looks like a tight diet for a whle and I will say goodbye to the 290's. Bout damn time!

Monolith · 05-01-2004, 02:25 PM

Sesathin is doing its job, i see.

How have your workouts been?

Pepper · 05-03-2004, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
How have your workouts been?

My workouts have been the same. That is, I have been working out pretty hard but nothing special. My plans to increase cardio have not come through yet b/c of my schedule, but I still intend to do that.

My strength is not great and when it comes to chest, poor. The combination of calorie deficit and a lingering shoulder injury holding me back.

Pepper · 05-03-2004, 06:33 AM

Weekend:

Meals: My meals Saturday and Sunday were just as always. The only difference was Saturday night. We went to a party and a had a few beers and the diet was not fantastic, though not terrible. In order to not drink too much beer, I drank a good bit of diet Coke. I could carry that around and it would be assumed it was a mixed drink and I would not have to answer the "What's your problem?" question over and over. The sodium tooks it toll on my weight.

I weighed in at 292.4 lbs on both Sunday and again this morning. I was a tad disappointed today's weight was not better because my diet was very tight yesterday.

There was one somewhat interesting development in the Rebirth test. At the party Saturday night (which turned out to have a bunch of swingers, which made it interesting) my wife asked me about the "new stuff" I am taking. I expliained that I was testing a new product and what it was designed to do. She said she was asking b/c she said "you are definitely looking more cut."

She is so convinced that it is working for me that she wants to take it. I am trying to order some now so that I will have enough to share with her and complete the test.

She was pretty much in the dark about all of this, so I would have to say that this was pretty substantial evidence that Rebirth is working for me. I intended to take photos and measurements yesterday, but duty called.

Pepper · 05-03-2004, 07:04 AM

OK...i just secured more Rebirth/Sesathin so I wil lbe able to share with the Mrs.

I will assume that TP would like to her her feedback as well, so I will include it here.

Pepper · 05-03-2004, 08:33 AM

Monday 5/3

Weight (as listed above) 292.4

Meal 1: Rebirth + Pro Complex shake/1/2 cup oatmeal
Meal 2: LC Lean Body + 7 shrimp + Sesathin

Twin Peak · 05-03-2004, 08:37 AM

Yeah, 'course.

Nice progress.

Pepper · 05-04-2004, 04:48 PM

OK...i realize the journal has sucked the last day or so. I just had to fire a guy:

he is a friend
his wife used to babysit for us
his father in law sits on boards/committees with me and is a friend and a client as well
his wife does not work so they have no income now

I am not a stress eater, but today was just not the day to diet. My partners and I had meetings all day and went to eat together, today was not the day to be a dick about where we ate. Not complete disaster, but not a good day dietings.

Suffice to say, we are testing the product ability to handle increased calories today!

We get hard-core tomorrow!

Monolith · 05-04-2004, 04:59 PM

Geez... calling that a "stressfull day" is an understatement. I hope things work out personally between you and that guy.

Also: If you turn into a real glutton, double dosing the sesathin is apparently a very good way to keep all those extra cals from turning into fat.

Pepper · 05-05-2004, 07:56 AM

OK...hard-core as promised today...here are my meals for the day.[list=1][*]Rebirth + 2 whole eggs + 3 egg whites scrambled (thanks honey!) + 1 scoop pro-complex (1/2 serving)[*]LC Lean Body + Sesathin[*]Rebirth + LC Lean Body[*]100% Whey shake[*]Rebirth + Pro Complex Shake[*]Pro Complex PM shake + Sesathin[/list=1]

Will take some fish oil to give me some added fat with each shake.

This will give me totals for the day of:
Cals: 1375
P: 68.2
F: 31
C: 38

A bit extreme but I will only do this one day to pay for past sins then get back in the 2000/day range.

Pepper · 05-06-2004, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pepper
OK...hard-core as promised today...here are my meals for the day.[list=1][*]Rebirth + 2 whole eggs + 3 egg whites scrambled (thanks honey!) + 1 scoop pro-complex (1/2 serving)[*]LC Lean Body + Sesathin[*]Rebirth + LC Lean Body[*]100% Whey shake[*]Rebirth + Pro Complex Shake[*]Pro Complex PM shake + Sesathin[/list=1]

Will take some fish oil to give me some added fat with each shake.

This will give me totals for the day of:
Cals: 1375
P: 68.2
F: 31
C: 38

A bit extreme but I will only do this one day to pay for past sins then get back in the 2000/day range.

OK, I didn't quit make it on this plan. Meal five became a spinach salad with a little chicken and a little shrimp. Not to bad, but I didn't log it, so the totals are off a bit.

Wake up Weight 5/6: 290.4

Pepper · 05-06-2004, 03:32 PM

Meals 5/6:
[list=1][*]1/2 cup oatmeal + 1 scoop pro complex[*]1/4 cup oatmeal + 2 scoops 100% whey[*]salmon filet + veggies + small salad (Ruby Tuesday)[*]LC Lean Body[*]2 frozen chicken breasts (BJs) + FF cheese[*]1 frozen chicken breasts (BJs) + FF cheese + small spinach salad[*]Rebirth + Pro COmplex PM[/list=1]

Twin Peak · 05-06-2004, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pepper
OK...hard-core as promised today...here are my meals for the day.[list=1][*]Rebirth + 2 whole eggs + 3 egg whites scrambled (thanks honey!) + 1 scoop pro-complex (1/2 serving)[*]LC Lean Body + Sesathin[*]Rebirth + LC Lean Body[*]100% Whey shake[*]Rebirth + Pro Complex Shake[*]Pro Complex PM shake + Sesathin[/list=1]

Will take some fish oil to give me some added fat with each shake.

This will give me totals for the day of:
Cals: 1375
P: 68.2
F: 31
C: 38

A bit extreme but I will only do this one day to pay for past sins then get back in the 2000/day range.

Personally, I think such extreme days every now and again are optimal for folks like you and I.

Pepper · 05-07-2004, 12:37 PM

Weight: 292.0

Meals 5/7[list=1][*]Rebirth + 1/4 cup oats + 1/4 cup cottage cheese[*]100% Whey shake[*]Rebirth + 2 frozen chicken breast + FF cheese[*]4 oz chicken, 1/2 cup brocolli, 1/2 cup brown rice[*]Rebirth + lc lean body[/list=1]

04-23-2004, 02:07 PM	#31
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com lmao Yeah, i thought id been noticing a decreased sex drive too, but was gonna wait a few more days before saying anything.
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04-26-2004, 01:31 PM	#35
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Monday, 4/26 Weight: 292.8 Meal 1: Leptigen + oats (ran out of time) Meal 2: 2 chicken breasts + ff cheese Meal 3: Leptigen + greek salad with about 3 or 4 oz of chicken Meal 4: LC Lean Body + sesathin + fish oil Meal 5: Rebirth + 8 oz chicken Meal 6: Optimun PM Pro Complex + sesathin + creatine Totals: Cals 1928 Protein 188 (38.5%) too low Fat: 99 (45.4%) too much Carb: 78 (16%) Last edited by Pepper : 04-27-2004 at 07:49 AM.

04-26-2004, 03:06 PM	#36
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Lookin good, Pepper.
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04-27-2004, 07:51 AM	#37
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	AM Weight: 292.6 Observations: Both me and my wife agree that my face and upper body look leaner. However, my midsection looks the same. Clearly, my face is thinner. The weight is ticking down, slowly, but down. Meals: 1. Myoplex + 1/2 cup Oats PWO: 100% Whey + 1/4 cup oats 2. two tyson frozen chicken breast with FF cheese Last edited by Pepper : 04-27-2004 at 09:35 AM.

04-27-2004, 08:02 AM	#39
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04-24-2004, 08:24 AM	#32
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Wake Up Weight 4/24 293.0 Meals 4.23 Meal One: Leptigen + Pro Complex Shake Meal Two: PWO shake - 100% Whey + 1/4 cup Oats Meal Three: 5 oz chicken Meal Four: Leptigen + Tuna Fillet (OK, they gave us free chips and queso b/c our food was so slow and I ate maybe four/five chips, not logged.) Meal Five: 1/2 cup cottage cheese Meal Six: Leptigen+ 6 oz turkey breast, brocollie, pat of butter and some Light-Done-Right dressing Meal 7:Myoplex light shake Totals: Cals 1843 P: 277 (61%) F: 51 (25%) C: 62 (14%)

04-26-2004, 01:29 PM	#34
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Sunday 4/25/04 Wake up weight 295 Meals (total) Cals 2529 P 344 (60%) F 72 (28%) C 70 (12%) Three doses of L-Rebirth and two doses of Sesathin. Leg workout today, so I CRAVED protein all afternoon. THis is why the P and total cals are higher today.

04-27-2004, 07:56 AM	#38
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Twin Peak...could you very quickly let me know if this journal is what your were expecting?

04-28-2004, 12:51 PM	#40
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Totals for 4/27: Cals: 2426 P 276.1 (46.7%) F 99.14 (37.5%) C 93.11 (15.7%) Wakeup Weight 4/28: 292.4

04-28-2004, 12:54 PM	#41
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	4/28 Meals Meal 1: myoplex lite + 1/2 cup oats Meal 2: 2 chicken breast + ff cheese + sesathin Meal 3: Leptigen + 3 oz steak, 3 oz chicken, 3 oz shrimp (japanese restaraunt) + veggies (mostly onions) Meal 4: LC Lean Body

04-28-2004, 01:52 PM	#42
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Have your measurements moved at all?
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04-30-2004, 06:55 AM	#43
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Totals for 4/28: Cals 2533 P 280 (45%) F 103 (37%) C 109 (17%) These totals are little higher than I wanted b/c of a taco incident. The meat was lean, the cheese was ff and the wrap was Low Carb, but I simply had too much Weight 4/29: not measured (woke up late and forgot) Meals 4/29 1. Rebirth + Pro Complex shake 2. LC Lean Body + sesathin 3. LC Lean Body 4. Shrimp (14) + Fish Oil + Myoplex Light shake 5. Rebirth + 2 chicken breasts + ff cheese 6. Pro Complex PM + sesathin Logged on slice of regular cheese but not sure where it fits. but it is in the totals below. Totals Cals 1924 P 288 (61%) F 59 (28%) C 55 (11%) Weight 4/30 AM: 290.0

05-01-2004, 11:57 AM	#45
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	I don't have my PocketPC with the calorie totals but here are my meals for Friday, April 30. Meal 1: Rebirth + 1/2 cup oats, 2 scoops 100% Whey Meal 2: LC Lean Body Meal 3: BBQ chicken (meat only) + green beans + sesathin Meal 4: 4 oz chicken Meal 5: 1 beef taco on LC wrap Meal 6: Rebirth + 2 chicken breast + sesathin somewhere in there I had a couple of cookies and a Pop Tart....not sure why I just did...which makes the next post more interesting...

05-01-2004, 02:25 PM	#47
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Sesathin is doing its job, i see. How have your workouts been?
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05-03-2004, 06:33 AM	#49
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Weekend: Meals: My meals Saturday and Sunday were just as always. The only difference was Saturday night. We went to a party and a had a few beers and the diet was not fantastic, though not terrible. In order to not drink too much beer, I drank a good bit of diet Coke. I could carry that around and it would be assumed it was a mixed drink and I would not have to answer the "What's your problem?" question over and over. The sodium tooks it toll on my weight. I weighed in at 292.4 lbs on both Sunday and again this morning. I was a tad disappointed today's weight was not better because my diet was very tight yesterday. There was one somewhat interesting development in the Rebirth test. At the party Saturday night (which turned out to have a bunch of swingers, which made it interesting) my wife asked me about the "new stuff" I am taking. I expliained that I was testing a new product and what it was designed to do. She said she was asking b/c she said "you are definitely looking more cut." She is so convinced that it is working for me that she wants to take it. I am trying to order some now so that I will have enough to share with her and complete the test. She was pretty much in the dark about all of this, so I would have to say that this was pretty substantial evidence that Rebirth is working for me. I intended to take photos and measurements yesterday, but duty called.

05-03-2004, 07:04 AM	#50
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	OK...i just secured more Rebirth/Sesathin so I wil lbe able to share with the Mrs. I will assume that TP would like to her her feedback as well, so I will include it here.

05-03-2004, 08:33 AM	#51
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Monday 5/3 Weight (as listed above) 292.4 Meal 1: Rebirth + Pro Complex shake/1/2 cup oatmeal Meal 2: LC Lean Body + 7 shrimp + Sesathin Last edited by Pepper : 05-03-2004 at 08:51 AM.

05-03-2004, 08:37 AM	#52
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	Yeah, 'course. Nice progress.
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05-04-2004, 04:48 PM	#53
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	OK...i realize the journal has sucked the last day or so. I just had to fire a guy: he is a friend his wife used to babysit for us his father in law sits on boards/committees with me and is a friend and a client as well his wife does not work so they have no income now I am not a stress eater, but today was just not the day to diet. My partners and I had meetings all day and went to eat together, today was not the day to be a dick about where we ate. Not complete disaster, but not a good day dietings. Suffice to say, we are testing the product ability to handle increased calories today! We get hard-core tomorrow!

05-04-2004, 04:59 PM	#54
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Geez... calling that a "stressfull day" is an understatement. I hope things work out personally between you and that guy. Also: If you turn into a real glutton, double dosing the sesathin is apparently a very good way to keep all those extra cals from turning into fat.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-05-2004, 07:56 AM	#55
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	OK...hard-core as promised today...here are my meals for the day.[list=1][]Rebirth + 2 whole eggs + 3 egg whites scrambled (thanks honey!) + 1 scoop pro-complex (1/2 serving)[]LC Lean Body + Sesathin[]Rebirth + LC Lean Body[]100% Whey shake[]Rebirth + Pro Complex Shake[]Pro Complex PM shake + Sesathin[/list=1] Will take some fish oil to give me some added fat with each shake. This will give me totals for the day of: Cals: 1375 P: 68.2 F: 31 C: 38 A bit extreme but I will only do this one day to pay for past sins then get back in the 2000/day range.

05-06-2004, 03:32 PM	#57
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Meals 5/6: [list=1][]1/2 cup oatmeal + 1 scoop pro complex[]1/4 cup oatmeal + 2 scoops 100% whey[]salmon filet + veggies + small salad (Ruby Tuesday)[]LC Lean Body[]2 frozen chicken breasts (BJs) + FF cheese[]1 frozen chicken breasts (BJs) + FF cheese + small spinach salad[]Rebirth + Pro COmplex PM[/list=1] Last edited by Pepper : 05-07-2004 at 12:34 PM.*

05-07-2004, 12:37 PM	#59
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Weight: 292.0 Meals 5/7[list=1][]Rebirth + 1/4 cup oats + 1/4 cup cottage cheese[]100% Whey shake[]Rebirth + 2 frozen chicken breast + FF cheese[]4 oz chicken, 1/2 cup brocolli, 1/2 cup brown rice[*]Rebirth + lc lean body[/list=1]

05-12-2004, 08:18 AM	#60
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member