Pepper's (Leptigen) Rebirth

Pepper · 04-13-2004, 09:34 AM

OK, I received my Letigen Rebirth. Thanks to TP and to Avant for selecting me to participate in this test.

According to the lable, I should take between 3 and 4 servings a day, so i am going to go with 4. I will take 1 scoop 30 minutes before by 4 non-shake meals.

My journaling will improve substantially early next week. The tax deadline has me swamped and to make matters worse, we had to move out of our house for the week for some major repairs.

I will do my "official" measurements on Saturday, but in general, I am 6-4 and weigh approximately 290 lbs. I estimate my body fat percentage to be around 25% but will get this checked via calipers ASAP.

So...off we go...I excited about this. I have been happy with the original Leptigen and am anxious to see what the new product will do....stay tuned.....

**P-funk** · 04-13-2004, 09:36 AM

Hey Pepper, what's going on man?

Good luck with the Leptigen!!

butterfly · 04-13-2004, 09:45 AM

Good luck, Pepper

You are successful in other areas of your life and I'm sure you will succeed with this as well

Pepper · 04-13-2004, 09:46 AM

Thanks, P-Funk & Butterfly

OK, here is a list of other stuff I am taking. I assume that TP wants me to change nothing else except addd the L-Rebirth but just in case...

ALA
CLA
Multi-Vitamin
Fish Oil
ZMA (each night + melatonin occassionally)
Chromium Picolinate (which appears to be worthless)
Ephedra (occassionally to wake my butt up)
EDIT: Green Tea Extract

Of course, I use glutamine and some creatine.

**Jodi** · 04-13-2004, 09:46 AM

Good luck Pepper

Pepper · 04-13-2004, 09:56 AM

Question for TP...in the package with the L-Rebirth was some Sesathin. I had not heard of this previously, but looked it up and it sounds interesting. I am assuming since this was sent to me that it is a part of the trial and will use it. Correct?

Pepper · 04-13-2004, 09:59 AM

Oh, and I'd like to state for the record that my body fat percentage is so high b/c of George W. Bush and b/c of this, I am voting for Kerry.

Cate · 04-13-2004, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pepper
Oh, and I'd like to state for the record that my body fat percentage is so high b/c of George W. Bush and b/c of this, I am voting for Kerry.

I needed a good laugh this morning!

I take it you are a Cubs fan?? You live in IL? I work a rooftop that a friend owns during the games.

atherjen · 04-13-2004, 11:19 AM

Good luck Pepper, look forward to watching your testing of this!

Monolith · 04-13-2004, 11:22 AM

Good luck, Pepper. I'll be starting my own rebirth log in the next few days.

butterfly · 04-13-2004, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pepper
Oh, and I'd like to state for the record that my body fat percentage is so high b/c of George W. Bush and b/c of this, I am voting for Kerry.

Monolith · 04-18-2004, 11:40 PM

Hey Pepper!

The workmen finish your house yet? I need some support, im startin' my Rebirth log tomorrow.

Pepper · 04-19-2004, 06:28 AM

Yep...I am back in the house and done with tax season.

I weighed in this morning at 295 lbs. I will start logging everything now....

7 am: Rebirth
7:30 : Protein Shake 360 cals, 48 P, 26 carb, 4 Fat
10 am: Rebirth
10:30: 2 peices of BJ's Chicken Breast, 1 CLA 270 cals, 34 protein, 15 fat, 2 carb + one cap Sesathin

__
Workout
___
1:30 100% Whey (2 scoops), 14 SeaPak shrimp (340 cals, 62 protein, 8 fat, 5 carb) + Sesathin (which tastes like ass)

will edit through out the day

Pepper · 04-19-2004, 07:59 AM

Photos

and measurments coming tonight. I'll leave one measurement out so you guys won't feel inadequate, but will post the others.

naturaltan · 04-19-2004, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pepper
Photos

and measurments coming tonight. I'll leave one measurement out so you guys won't feel inadequate, but will post the others.

don't know that posting your shoe size will make anyone feel inadequate.

Monolith · 04-19-2004, 08:47 AM

Pepper · 04-19-2004, 09:30 PM

OK...measurements...all of these are cold/unflexed

Stomach 46 in

chest 50 in
neck 18.75
bicep 17.75 (right) 18.25 (left) (i made her do that again b/c of the difference)
quad 28.25 (right) 28.0 (left)
calf 19.75 (right) 19.25 (left)

Pepper · 04-20-2004, 07:11 AM

it won't let me edit yesterday's food post anymore, so here are the totals:
Cal 1940
Protein 312 (64%)
Fat 51 (23%)
Carb 63 (13%)

Three spoons of Rebirth + 2 caps of Sesathin

Wake up Weight 4/20: 293.8

OK, I wanted to wait a bit on comments to give some time but here is what I have noticed. I have noticed a noticable increase in hunger. It is difficult to put into to words but I do feel my metabolism has increased a bit.

I had my first battle with nighttime acid reflux in over a year. I don't know that either product had anything to do with that, but I am keeping an eye on the Sesathin as I took a capful right before bed.

Pepper · 04-20-2004, 07:22 AM

Diet Log: 4/20

7:30am Rebirth
8:00am 1/2 cup lf cottage cheese with low-carb granola + 1 scoop Pro Complex + 1 CLA
339 cals, 43 P, 10 F, 20 carb (total, not net)
2 BJ's Chicken Breasts, ff cheese, 3 cups brocolli, 4 tbsp ranch dressing 680 cals, 54 P, 48 F, 10 C (ok, the ranch was a mistake)
1/2 cup lf cottage cheese w/lc granola 200 cals, 15 P, 8 F, 18 C
LEG WORKOUT
Rebirth then 7 oz chicken breast, 2 pat butter, brocolli, ff cheese 490 cals, 63 P, 12 F, 8 carb (followed by Sesathin)
Rebirth + 2 scoops 100% Whey 220 cals, 44 P, 4 F, 4 C

Total for the day: 1932 cals, 220 P (46%), 91 F (42% effin Ranch!), 60 C (12%)

Diet was a little "off" today. Total calories are ok, but need to even out better. Took the day off and that threw me. I still say I feel like my metabolism is in high gear (or at least higher gear.) The proof will be on the scales as time goes on b/c my diet is the same as it was for the last three months.

Pepper · 04-21-2004, 08:41 AM

4/21 wake up weight 292.2

I think the downward trend of my weight is encouraging, however, my weight tends to flucate a good bit. For it to be down the day after "leg day" is so rare that I don't think I can recall it happening.

While I am sure some of the weight loss is water and some just a temporary flucation, I do feel that I am in 'the zone" and am burning fat again. Time will tell.

Took Sesathin before bed last night with no reflux. At this point, I am concluding the reflux was just stress related.

Monolith · 04-21-2004, 09:51 AM

Lookin good, Pepper!

And hey, isnt Rebirth friggin tasty?

Pepper · 04-21-2004, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
Lookin good, Pepper!

And hey, isnt Rebirth friggin tasty?

What's weird about that is that I hated it the first time. Either I got used to it or it was not shaken before my first helping and got less flavoring. I do like it now though.

Monolith · 04-21-2004, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pepper
What's weird about that is that I hated it the first time. Either I got used to it or it was not shaken before my first helping and got less flavoring. I do like it now though.

Maybe im just used to eating really bland stuff... like 4 months straight of brown rice and chicken.

Pepper · 04-21-2004, 02:22 PM

[list=1][*]Leptigen + 100% Whey shake with 1/4 cup oats 295 cals, 46.5 P, 5.5 F, 17.5 C[*]sesathin + chicken and FF Cheese 520 cals, 79 P, 20 F, 8 C[*]Leptigen + shrimp + CLA/Fish Oil 220 cals, 27 P, 10 F, 1.5 C[*]5 oz chicken + cheese 434.4 cals, 53.6 P, 21.2 F, 4 C[*]leptigen + 5 oz chicken, lc tortilla, ff cheese, fish oil 330 cals, 38 P, 9.7 F, 17.3 C[*]leptigen/sesathin + 1CLA + 2 fish oil + LC granola + LF cottage cheese 229.2 cals ,15.3 P, 10.8 F, 18.1 C [/list=1]

Hope this adds up to the following total:
1998 cals
259.4 P (53%)
74 F (33.6%)
66 C (12.4%

Pepper · 04-22-2004, 07:48 AM

4.22 wake up weight 293.0

Well, my initial impression is that Rebirth has helped re-fire my metabolism. It has not helped me with my strength in the gym (not that it is supposed to.) I am getting weaker, I guess I should expect that with my cals around 2000 a day. I was at least 4000 when I was putting up the big bench press numbers.

I guess I am just frustrated. My body fat is higher, like a power lifter, yet I can't move the weight anymore. I am in "no man's land." I am really hopeful that Rebirth works as advertised and as it appears to work in the short time I have been on it.

Monolith · 04-22-2004, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pepper
4.22 wake up weight 293.0

Well, my initial impression is that Rebirth has helped re-fire my metabolism. It has not helped me with my strength in the gym (not that it is supposed to.) I am getting weaker, I guess I should expect that with my cals around 2000 a day. I was at least 4000 when I was putting up the big bench press numbers.

I guess I am just frustrated. My body fat is higher, like a power lifter, yet I can't move the weight anymore. I am in "no man's land." I am really hopeful that Rebirth works as advertised and as it appears to work in the short time I have been on it.

Give it time.

Personally, i always tend to evaluate things too soon... i want immediate results, or i start questioning what im doing. You can probably tell that from all the random comments in my rebirth journal.

After a month, though, im confident we'll be noticing results.

Pepper · 04-22-2004, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
Give it time.

Personally, i always tend to evaluate things too soon... i want immediate results, or i start questioning what im doing. You can probably tell that from all the random comments in my rebirth journal.

After a month, though, im confident we'll be noticing results.

I will. Just to be clear, I am frustrated with my body fat, not the Rebirth. So far, I'd say it is working as advertised.

04-13-2004, 09:34 AM	#1
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Pepper's (Leptigen) Rebirth BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com OK, I received my Letigen Rebirth. Thanks to TP and to Avant for selecting me to participate in this test. According to the lable, I should take between 3 and 4 servings a day, so i am going to go with 4. I will take 1 scoop 30 minutes before by 4 non-shake meals. My journaling will improve substantially early next week. The tax deadline has me swamped and to make matters worse, we had to move out of our house for the week for some major repairs. I will do my "official" measurements on Saturday, but in general, I am 6-4 and weigh approximately 290 lbs. I estimate my body fat percentage to be around 25% but will get this checked via calipers ASAP. So...off we go...I excited about this. I have been happy with the original Leptigen and am anxious to see what the new product will do....stay tuned.....
	My Carb Cycling Progress - you can't hide from the numbers.

04-13-2004, 09:36 AM	#2
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,226	Hey Pepper, what's going on man? Good luck with the Leptigen!!
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04-13-2004, 09:45 AM	#3
butterfly Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,526 Photos: 11	Good luck, Pepper You are successful in other areas of your life and I'm sure you will succeed with this as well
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04-13-2004, 09:46 AM	#4
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Thanks, P-Funk & Butterfly OK, here is a list of other stuff I am taking. I assume that TP wants me to change nothing else except addd the L-Rebirth but just in case... ALA CLA Multi-Vitamin Fish Oil ZMA (each night + melatonin occassionally) Chromium Picolinate (which appears to be worthless) Ephedra (occassionally to wake my butt up) EDIT: Green Tea Extract Of course, I use glutamine and some creatine. Last edited by Pepper : 04-13-2004 at 10:03 AM.
	My Carb Cycling Progress - you can't hide from the numbers.

04-13-2004, 09:46 AM	#5
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,126 Photos: 1	Good luck Pepper
	Essence EFA

04-13-2004, 09:56 AM	#6
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Question for TP...in the package with the L-Rebirth was some Sesathin. I had not heard of this previously, but looked it up and it sounds interesting. I am assuming since this was sent to me that it is a part of the trial and will use it. Correct?
	My Carb Cycling Progress - you can't hide from the numbers.

04-13-2004, 09:59 AM	#7
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Oh, and I'd like to state for the record that my body fat percentage is so high b/c of George W. Bush and b/c of this, I am voting for Kerry.
	My Carb Cycling Progress - you can't hide from the numbers.

04-13-2004, 11:19 AM	#9
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	Good luck Pepper, look forward to watching your testing of this!
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

04-13-2004, 11:22 AM	#10
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Good luck, Pepper. I'll be starting my own rebirth log in the next few days.
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04-18-2004, 11:40 PM	#12
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Hey Pepper! The workmen finish your house yet? I need some support, im startin' my Rebirth log tomorrow.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

04-19-2004, 06:28 AM	#13
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Yep...I am back in the house and done with tax season. I weighed in this morning at 295 lbs. I will start logging everything now.... 7 am: Rebirth 7:30 : Protein Shake 360 cals, 48 P, 26 carb, 4 Fat 10 am: Rebirth 10:30: 2 peices of BJ's Chicken Breast, 1 CLA 270 cals, 34 protein, 15 fat, 2 carb + one cap Sesathin __ Workout ___ 1:30 100% Whey (2 scoops), 14 SeaPak shrimp (340 cals, 62 protein, 8 fat, 5 carb) + Sesathin (which tastes like ass) will edit through out the day Last edited by Pepper : 04-19-2004 at 12:20 PM.
	My Carb Cycling Progress - you can't hide from the numbers.

04-19-2004, 07:59 AM	#14
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Photos and measurments coming tonight. I'll leave one measurement out so you guys won't feel inadequate, but will post the others.
	My Carb Cycling Progress - you can't hide from the numbers.

04-19-2004, 08:47 AM	#16
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002
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04-19-2004, 09:30 PM	#17
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	OK...measurements...all of these are cold/unflexed Stomach 46 in chest 50 in neck 18.75 bicep 17.75 (right) 18.25 (left) (i made her do that again b/c of the difference) quad 28.25 (right) 28.0 (left) calf 19.75 (right) 19.25 (left)
	My Carb Cycling Progress - you can't hide from the numbers.

04-20-2004, 07:11 AM	#18
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	it won't let me edit yesterday's food post anymore, so here are the totals: Cal 1940 Protein 312 (64%) Fat 51 (23%) Carb 63 (13%) Three spoons of Rebirth + 2 caps of Sesathin Wake up Weight 4/20: 293.8 OK, I wanted to wait a bit on comments to give some time but here is what I have noticed. I have noticed a noticable increase in hunger. It is difficult to put into to words but I do feel my metabolism has increased a bit. I had my first battle with nighttime acid reflux in over a year. I don't know that either product had anything to do with that, but I am keeping an eye on the Sesathin as I took a capful right before bed. Last edited by Pepper : 04-20-2004 at 07:43 AM.
	My Carb Cycling Progress - you can't hide from the numbers.

04-20-2004, 07:22 AM	#19
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Meals 4/20 Diet Log: 4/20 7:30am Rebirth 8:00am 1/2 cup lf cottage cheese with low-carb granola + 1 scoop Pro Complex + 1 CLA 339 cals, 43 P, 10 F, 20 carb (total, not net) 2 BJ's Chicken Breasts, ff cheese, 3 cups brocolli, 4 tbsp ranch dressing 680 cals, 54 P, 48 F, 10 C (ok, the ranch was a mistake) 1/2 cup lf cottage cheese w/lc granola 200 cals, 15 P, 8 F, 18 C LEG WORKOUT Rebirth then 7 oz chicken breast, 2 pat butter, brocolli, ff cheese 490 cals, 63 P, 12 F, 8 carb (followed by Sesathin) Rebirth + 2 scoops 100% Whey 220 cals, 44 P, 4 F, 4 C Total for the day: 1932 cals, 220 P (46%), 91 F (42% effin Ranch!), 60 C (12%) Diet was a little "off" today. Total calories are ok, but need to even out better. Took the day off and that threw me. I still say I feel like my metabolism is in high gear (or at least higher gear.) The proof will be on the scales as time goes on b/c my diet is the same as it was for the last three months. Last edited by Pepper : 04-20-2004 at 06:36 PM.
	My Carb Cycling Progress - you can't hide from the numbers.

04-21-2004, 08:41 AM	#20
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	4/21 wake up weight 292.2 I think the downward trend of my weight is encouraging, however, my weight tends to flucate a good bit. For it to be down the day after "leg day" is so rare that I don't think I can recall it happening. While I am sure some of the weight loss is water and some just a temporary flucation, I do feel that I am in 'the zone" and am burning fat again. Time will tell. Took Sesathin before bed last night with no reflux. At this point, I am concluding the reflux was just stress related.

04-21-2004, 09:51 AM	#21
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Lookin good, Pepper! And hey, isnt Rebirth friggin tasty?
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

04-21-2004, 02:22 PM	#24
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	Meals 4/21 [list=1][]Leptigen + 100% Whey shake with 1/4 cup oats 295 cals, 46.5 P, 5.5 F, 17.5 C[]sesathin + chicken and FF Cheese 520 cals, 79 P, 20 F, 8 C[]Leptigen + shrimp + CLA/Fish Oil 220 cals, 27 P, 10 F, 1.5 C[]5 oz chicken + cheese 434.4 cals, 53.6 P, 21.2 F, 4 C[]leptigen + 5 oz chicken, lc tortilla, ff cheese, fish oil 330 cals, 38 P, 9.7 F, 17.3 C[]leptigen/sesathin + 1CLA + 2 fish oil + LC granola + LF cottage cheese 229.2 cals ,15.3 P, 10.8 F, 18.1 C [/list=1] Hope this adds up to the following total: 1998 cals 259.4 P (53%) 74 F (33.6%) 66 C (12.4% Last edited by Pepper : 04-22-2004 at 07:45 AM.

04-22-2004, 07:48 AM	#25
Pepper Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,539	4.22 wake up weight 293.0 Well, my initial impression is that Rebirth has helped re-fire my metabolism. It has not helped me with my strength in the gym (not that it is supposed to.) I am getting weaker, I guess I should expect that with my cals around 2000 a day. I was at least 4000 when I was putting up the big bench press numbers. I guess I am just frustrated. My body fat is higher, like a power lifter, yet I can't move the weight anymore. I am in "no man's land." I am really hopeful that Rebirth works as advertised and as it appears to work in the short time I have been on it.