Rebirth

**P-funk** · 05-15-2004, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by atherjen
do you think it would help improve my weakness in dumbell presses (cant get them up myself)

Yeah, if you get better gripo strength you can stabalize dumbells more effeciently and be able to handle more weight. As far as getting them up, it will help some, but a lot of that is finding a techinique that works. Like either clening the weight and sitting down or figuring out an effective way of kicking them up.

Monolith · 05-16-2004, 08:07 PM

No gym. Diet same. Was out on my bicycle for about an hour, worked up a bit of a sweat, but nothing too strenuous.

Im probably going to stop the piracetam next week some time... its been about 6-7 weeks since i started it. I cant say i noticed much from it, although apparently its effects can gradually increase with time... so im thinking if i stop it abruptly and feel different it'll be a good guage. It needs to be cycled, anyway. I just want to wait a bit longer so i can let the effexor ramp up to its correct dosage... i dont want any of the effexors effects getting confused with the discontinuation of the piracetam.

Monolith · 05-17-2004, 09:09 AM

Stats for 5/17, 4 weeks since eval begun:

Stomach - 38.75"
Right arm - 16.4"
Left arm - 16.2"
Right quad - 25.5"
Left quad - 25.4"
Neck - 16.25"
BW - 232lbs
BF - 19%

Stomach dropped by a 3/4 inch from last week.
Each arm lost a 1/10 of an inch from last week.
Each quad lost 3/10 of an inch from last week.
BW dropped 1.5lbs from last week.
3 point caliper seems down a percent from last week.

Weights have increased in most cases, and otherwise have stayed the same.

Finished the first bottle of sesathin right on time saturday PM. Ive got around a tub and a half left of rebirth. Should be able to continue this journal for another 4 weeks.

yellowmoomba · 05-17-2004, 09:21 AM

Nice going on dropping some weight.........Keep it up!!

Monolith · 05-17-2004, 04:34 PM

Training for 5/17: Chest/Biceps

BB flat bench - 205lbx6x4 185lbx7

Decline BB - 185lbx9x5 165lbx8

DB flys - 35lbx8x3 drop 25lbx3 (

)

---

Cam bar curl - 65lbx18x8 45lbx15 ( LOL )

DB hammer curl - 20lbx11x9 15lbx14x9

Hammer machine curl - 45lbx15x9

---

Weight on chest didnt move from last week, 1RM is still estimated around 240. Im fine with that, though, considering im dropping fat a lot faster. Dont know what happened with the flys, chest just died after that first set.

I tried to copy P-Funks last bicep routine, which was a big mistake.

Managed to get 18 reps on the first set, but it killed me for the next one. 30s RI definitely wasnt enough time to get the reps any higher. RI's got pretty damn short towards the end of the w/o, maybe around 20-25s.

**Jodi** · 05-17-2004, 04:36 PM

Excellent progress.

Have you made any more diet changes?

Twin Peak · 05-17-2004, 04:41 PM

1.5 lbs versus 3/4 inch on the stomach is spectaculat.

Monolith · 05-17-2004, 05:02 PM

No... still going High/Low/No/High/No/Low/No.

Im toying with the idea of getting some LG basic for the last half of this eval (to combine with the rebirth). The rebirth hasnt really been all that remarkable, although to begin with i was very close to its "cutoff" point.

I think the basic taken on mornings, and especially on no carb days would be superb. Then with the rebirth in the evenings, and especially on high carb days.

Any thoughts on that, Jodi? Or TP?

Then of course there's phenogen... bleh. So many powders, so little time.

Twin Peak · 05-17-2004, 05:07 PM

If I were an endo (and I am), I would use low dose Rebirth when I reached my setpoint, or below (1-2 servings forever), and then use Basic or MASS depending on whether cutting or bulking.

And since I am an endo, this is what I do.

PhenoGen will not be good for cutting when below set-point, however.

Twin Peak · 05-17-2004, 05:07 PM

Oh, and PhenoGen will be in pill form.

Monolith · 05-17-2004, 05:40 PM

lol... well my setpoint is somewhere between Jaba the Hutt and Roseanne. This past summer i got up to 250lbs without much trouble, and in my early/mid teens i got up to 300 pretty easily (although around 300 the weight started adding a little slower).

And yeah, i just noticed in the Phenogen Q&A thread thats its no good for below setpoint cutters. Maybe if i manage to get lean enough to bulk in a few years, i can give it a try.

Novo · 05-17-2004, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
lol... well my setpoint is somewhere between Jaba the Hutt and Roseanne.

Damn you're funny - I pop in here often, for a smile! Congrats on your progress, you must be so pleased

Monolith · 05-17-2004, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Novo

Damn you're funny - I pop in here often, for a smile! Congrats on your progress, you must be so pleased

haha, thanks man.

PreMier · 05-17-2004, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
haha, thanks man.

Novo is a chic! And damn hot!

aggies1ut · 05-17-2004, 07:43 PM

LOL I remember Mayo thought I was a guy at first...Of course today I found his "plucking" thread in open chat. I'll have to harass him about that.

Monolith · 05-17-2004, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PreMier

Novo is a chic! And damn hot!

whoops!

Sorry Novo.

PreMier · 05-17-2004, 08:48 PM

Here: http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=52&t=9441&st=0

Check out Layne(str8flexed) Holy veinage batman!

Monolith · 05-17-2004, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PreMier
Here: http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=52&t=9441&st=0

Check out Layne(str8flexed) Holy veinage batman!

Ahhh... very nice. Novo might give Jen a run for "nicest butt."

And yeah, ive seen Layne's pics before... he's friggin amazing.

PreMier · 05-17-2004, 08:59 PM

I like Babs' butt. I mean that avi... whoa damn!

Monolith · 05-17-2004, 09:08 PM

Oh yeah, good point...

Hey, we cant forget J'Bo either! And Jodi!

We need a "butt-off." Winner gets a bottle of sesathin.

PreMier · 05-17-2004, 09:17 PM

**Jodi** · 05-18-2004, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Any thoughts on that, Jodi? Or TP?

Quote:

Originally posted by Twin Peak
If I were an endo (and I am), I would use low dose Rebirth when I reached my setpoint, or below (1-2 servings forever), and then use Basic or MASS depending on whether cutting or bulking.

And since I am an endo, this is what I do.

PhenoGen will not be good for cutting when below set-point, however.

Ummm.......Yeah, what he said.

**Jodi** · 05-18-2004, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
Oh yeah, good point...

Hey, we cant forget J'Bo either! And Jodi!

We need a "butt-off." Winner gets a bottle of sesathin.

Novo · 05-18-2004, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PreMier
Here: http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=52&t=9441&st=0

You didn't do that?!

What are you THINKING you crazy fool, get it down before I come over there and make you (and I am scary when I'm mad ... I box ya know!

)

Quote:

We need a "butt-off." Winner gets a bottle of sesathin.

I wish I could stay mad, but I can't help but laugh. You horrible sexist piglets - how do the girls over here put up with you?? I'm back off where I belong ...

atherjen · 05-18-2004, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Monolith
Stats for 5/17, 4 weeks since eval begun:

Stomach - 38.75"
Right arm - 16.4"
Left arm - 16.2"
Right quad - 25.5"
Left quad - 25.4"
Neck - 16.25"
BW - 232lbs
BF - 19%

Stomach dropped by a 3/4 inch from last week.
Each arm lost a 1/10 of an inch from last week.
Each quad lost 3/10 of an inch from last week.
BW dropped 1.5lbs from last week.
3 point caliper seems down a percent from last week.

Weights have increased in most cases, and otherwise have stayed the same.

Finished the first bottle of sesathin right on time saturday PM. Ive got around a tub and a half left of rebirth. Should be able to continue this journal for another 4 weeks.

YAY!!! great progress!!! now theres some posititve motivation for you!!

yellowmoomba · 05-18-2004, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Novo

Damn you're funny - I pop in here often, for a smile! Congrats on your progress, you must be so pleased

Mono is a funny guy!!!

LOL

Monolith · 05-18-2004, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Novo

I wish I could stay mad, but I can't help but laugh. You horrible sexist piglets - how do the girls over here put up with you?? I'm back off where I belong ...

It's not sexism, merely admiration.

05-16-2004, 08:07 PM	#272
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	No gym. Diet same. Was out on my bicycle for about an hour, worked up a bit of a sweat, but nothing too strenuous. Im probably going to stop the piracetam next week some time... its been about 6-7 weeks since i started it. I cant say i noticed much from it, although apparently its effects can gradually increase with time... so im thinking if i stop it abruptly and feel different it'll be a good guage. It needs to be cycled, anyway. I just want to wait a bit longer so i can let the effexor ramp up to its correct dosage... i dont want any of the effexors effects getting confused with the discontinuation of the piracetam.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-17-2004, 09:09 AM	#273
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Stats for 5/17, 4 weeks since eval begun: Stomach - 38.75" Right arm - 16.4" Left arm - 16.2" Right quad - 25.5" Left quad - 25.4" Neck - 16.25" BW - 232lbs BF - 19% Stomach dropped by a 3/4 inch from last week. Each arm lost a 1/10 of an inch from last week. Each quad lost 3/10 of an inch from last week. BW dropped 1.5lbs from last week. 3 point caliper seems down a percent from last week. Weights have increased in most cases, and otherwise have stayed the same. Finished the first bottle of sesathin right on time saturday PM. Ive got around a tub and a half left of rebirth. Should be able to continue this journal for another 4 weeks. Last edited by Monolith : 05-17-2004 at 11:17 AM.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-17-2004, 09:21 AM	#274
yellowmoomba YM Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,583 Photos: 2	Nice going on dropping some weight.........Keep it up!!
	My Journal "You are born small and weak... you die small and weak... how you look in between is up to you."

05-17-2004, 04:34 PM	#275
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Training for 5/17: Chest/Biceps BB flat bench - 205lbx6x4 185lbx7 Decline BB - 185lbx9x5 165lbx8 DB flys - 35lbx8x3 drop 25lbx3 ( ) --- Cam bar curl - 65lbx18x8 45lbx15 ( LOL ) DB hammer curl - 20lbx11x9 15lbx14x9 Hammer machine curl - 45lbx15x9 --- Weight on chest didnt move from last week, 1RM is still estimated around 240. Im fine with that, though, considering im dropping fat a lot faster. Dont know what happened with the flys, chest just died after that first set. I tried to copy P-Funks last bicep routine, which was a big mistake. Managed to get 18 reps on the first set, but it killed me for the next one. 30s RI definitely wasnt enough time to get the reps any higher. RI's got pretty damn short towards the end of the w/o, maybe around 20-25s.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-17-2004, 04:36 PM	#276
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Excellent progress. Have you made any more diet changes?
	Essence EFA

05-17-2004, 04:41 PM	#277
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	1.5 lbs versus 3/4 inch on the stomach is spectaculat.
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05-17-2004, 05:02 PM	#278
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	No... still going High/Low/No/High/No/Low/No. Im toying with the idea of getting some LG basic for the last half of this eval (to combine with the rebirth). The rebirth hasnt really been all that remarkable, although to begin with i was very close to its "cutoff" point. I think the basic taken on mornings, and especially on no carb days would be superb. Then with the rebirth in the evenings, and especially on high carb days. Any thoughts on that, Jodi? Or TP? Then of course there's phenogen... bleh. So many powders, so little time.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-17-2004, 05:07 PM	#279
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	If I were an endo (and I am), I would use low dose Rebirth when I reached my setpoint, or below (1-2 servings forever), and then use Basic or MASS depending on whether cutting or bulking. And since I am an endo, this is what I do. PhenoGen will not be good for cutting when below set-point, however.
	www.DesignerSupps.com INTELLIGENT DESIGN™...lands on 1/1/2007 www.intelligentdesignmag.com

05-17-2004, 05:07 PM	#280
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	Oh, and PhenoGen will be in pill form.
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05-17-2004, 05:40 PM	#281
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	lol... well my setpoint is somewhere between Jaba the Hutt and Roseanne. This past summer i got up to 250lbs without much trouble, and in my early/mid teens i got up to 300 pretty easily (although around 300 the weight started adding a little slower). And yeah, i just noticed in the Phenogen Q&A thread thats its no good for below setpoint cutters. Maybe if i manage to get lean enough to bulk in a few years, i can give it a try.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-17-2004, 07:43 PM	#285
aggies1ut NorCal Elite Member* Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, Ca. Posts: 3,580 Photos: 19	LOL I remember Mayo thought I was a guy at first...Of course today I found his "plucking" thread in open chat. I'll have to harass him about that.

05-17-2004, 08:48 PM	#287
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,300 Photos: 2	Here: http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=52&t=9441&st=0 Check out Layne(str8flexed) Holy veinage batman!
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05-17-2004, 08:59 PM	#289
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,300 Photos: 2	I like Babs' butt. I mean that avi... whoa damn!
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05-17-2004, 09:08 PM	#290
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Oh yeah, good point... Hey, we cant forget J'Bo either! And Jodi! We need a "butt-off." Winner gets a bottle of sesathin.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-17-2004, 09:17 PM	#291
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,300 Photos: 2
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