Rebirth

PreMier · 05-18-2004, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Novo
You didn't do that?!

What are you THINKING you crazy fool, get it down before I come over there and make you (and I am scary when I'm mad ... I box ya know!

)

Sowwy

Forgive me? I didnt know that you boxed.. I get hot under the collar for a chick that can kick my ass

Monolith · 05-19-2004, 09:28 AM

As strange as it sounds, i think my libido has actually increased some lately. The only thing thats changed is the addition of the effexor. Whats even odder, though, is that one of effexors side effects is decreased libido or sexual dysfunction. So i have no idea wtf is going on.

yellowmoomba · 05-19-2004, 10:06 AM

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Originally posted by Monolith
As strange as it sounds, i think my libido has actually increased some lately. The only thing thats changed is the addition of the effexor. Whats even odder, though, is that one of effexors side effects is decreased libido or sexual dysfunction. So i have no idea wtf is going on.

More importantly - Do you have someone to share it with ??

Monolith · 05-19-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by yellowmoomba
More importantly - Do you have someone to share it with ??

Yeah, my buds lefty and righty.

yellowmoomba · 05-19-2004, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Monolith
Yeah, my buds lefty and righty.

You can invite Ms Michigan and Rosey Palms - that would be a party!!

Monolith · 05-19-2004, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by yellowmoomba
You can invite Ms Michigan and Rosey Palms - that would be a party!!

I dont suppose your wife has a sister?

yellowmoomba · 05-19-2004, 01:22 PM

Actually she does

(but she's taken)

Monolith · 05-19-2004, 05:35 PM

Man, today has been a weird day so far. All this morning i was horny as shit, which wasnt very helpful considering i had finals until early afternoon.

I get home, grab something to eat, and i find i cant stop yawning. I end up passing out for an hour and a half on my bed. I got 8 hours of sleep last night, so i dont know why im so tired half way through the day.

Today is a no carb day, but ive never experienced anything like this since i started carb cycling in december. I thought it might be hypoglycemia, but i havent had any other symptoms (no headache, anxiety, etc).

The effexor has been at its current dosage for 4 days now (going to ramp up again tomorrow), and while fatigue is listed as a symptom, i hadnt noticed anything previously.

I did add some tyrosine to my "morning supp stack," and ive read that it can indirectly lead to an increase in libido as its a dopamine precursor... but ive taken tyrosine before, and never to this effect.

Monolith · 05-20-2004, 06:03 PM

Training for 5/20: Back/Grip

One arm DB row - 65lbx10 90lbx10x9/8x7/6 85lbx7/6

CG tbar row - 160lbx7 135lbx8x7x6.5

WG pulldown - 100lbx15 130lbx8 120lbx7.5

DB shrugs - 80lbx12 90lbx10x8

---

Plate pinch - 20lbx65/55x50/40x40/40 (seconds)

---

Eh, alright. Increased the reps a bit on the DB row. Im still using the "contraption" for the tbar rows, tried bending over a little further with it today, so i dropped the weights a tad. I really need to find some space to do a real tbar row, though.

Bumped up the effexor to 112.5mg today. Havent noticed any changes. Still had good energy in the gym.

Diet has been the same the past several days. No alterations.

yellowmoomba · 05-20-2004, 08:21 PM

What's up Mono ??

Are you still dropping weight??

PreMier · 05-20-2004, 08:27 PM

Yes, make room for the true rows

Worthless contraption

Monolith · 05-21-2004, 04:32 PM

Yeah, still droppin the pounds. The diet tweak a couple weeks back really speeded things up.

Monolith · 05-21-2004, 04:40 PM

Training for 5/21: Shoulders/Triceps

DB mil press - 55lbx8x5 50lbx4

Cybex lateral raise - 100lbx9 80lbx8 60lbx9 drop 20lbx15

Cable front raise - 30lbx10.5 25lbx12x9

Reverse pec dec - 70lbx12x7 drop 40lbx6

---

CG bench - 155lbx9x6 135lbx5.5

Dips - -60lbx10x8x7 (60lb assist)

Rope pushdowns - 60lbx10x8x7

---

Took some E/C pre w/o. Good energy despite the no carb day.

Shoulder felt better today, weights are back up to where they were 2 weeks ago on the DB press. Increased reps/weights mildly on the next 3 exercises as well.

CG bench felt good, wrists got a little sore. I'll tell ya, one good thing about being tall (and having a long reach) is its harder to get pinned under the bar. On the last rep with 135, i could only get the bar up about half way... but i was already well above the pins.

Dips were good as well. Used 20lb less of an assist for roughly the same reps. Pushdowns increased slightly.

Overall, im quite pleased, considering my weightloss has accelerated.

PreMier · 05-21-2004, 05:33 PM

Sounds like you haev a lot to be pleased about. Great work man

**P-funk** · 05-22-2004, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Overall, im quite pleased, considering my weightloss has accelerated.

How much further from your goal are you?? Any guess at your bf%???

Great workouts.

Monolith · 05-23-2004, 02:10 PM

Just got back from Boston. Game was awesome! Sox owned the jays.

It was a night game tho, and got pretty damn cold. I had a sweatshirt and a jacket on and was still freezing. They still had people wandering around trying to sell ice cream, though.

I actually managed to avoid any cheats. Meals were a little screwy, though... not a lot of whole food, lots of whey, and meal spacing got messed up too. Nothing too serious though.

P, im takin measurements tomorrow. Im not all that confident in my caliper accuracy, but probably somewhere around 19%.

Also... i think i may have found one of the reasons my gains have come so slowly. Doc called me last week and mentioned my prolactin was somewhat elevated - at a "28" when normal values for men are between 0-20 (and most men seem to be between 5 and 15). He didnt say what units it was in, but i had him mail me a copy of the blood work.

Im actually perusing the various dopamine agonists available right now, trying to find one that might best work with both my physiological and psychological problems. Some of my ADD and depression symptoms, combined with these weird blood values, can (at least as i see it) be traced back to a couple specific dopaminergic pathways. Some 5-HT2 antagonists might fit the bill too... but i think those are mostly antipsychotic meds.

Monolith · 05-23-2004, 02:30 PM

Training for 5/22: Hams/Calves/Abs

SLDL - 135lbx10 225lbx10x8x6 205lbx6

Lying curl - 120lbx12x7 90lbx11x8

---

Standing calf raise - 90lbx10 135lbx17x12x10

---

Cable machine crunch - 40lbx12x12x10x8

DB side bends - 90lbx10x8

---

Decent. Banged out a couple more reps on the first SLDL set, but that might have been pure determination than strength (since last week i went 8, 8, 6). Lying curls increased mildly.

atherjen · 05-23-2004, 03:31 PM

Mono, glad to hear that fatloss is speeding back up to par again!

great work on the SL deads!!

Monolith · 05-24-2004, 08:14 AM

Stats for 5/24 -

Stomach - 38.75"
Right arm - 16.3"
Left arm - 16.15"
Right quad - 25.75"
Left quad - 25.5"
Neck - 16.25"
BW - 229.5lbs
BF - 19%

Forgot i was taking measurements this morning, and drank a couple glasses of water before i remembered. I think that explains why the stomach measurement didnt move (after i had a couple more glasses, stomach was out to 39.5... lol).

Measurements overall were strange. Arms decreased by a hair, but quads seem to have increased somewhat. Neck is the same for the third week in a row.

Scale says i lost 2.5lbs, but i dont see any changes in the tape that warrant that kind of fat loss. Here's to hoping there wasnt too much muscle loss.

chiquita6683 · 05-24-2004, 12:30 PM

Monolith · 05-24-2004, 02:35 PM

Hey Chiquita

Monolith · 05-24-2004, 02:47 PM

Training for 5/24: Chest/Biceps

Flat bb bench - 205lbx5x4x3 185lbx6

Decline bb bench - 185lbx6x5x5x4

Incline DB - 60lbx7x5x5

---

Cam bar curl - 75lbx12x7 65lbx7 45lbx10

DB hammer curl - 20lbx10x8x8x7

---

No energy today. Lost some reps here and there, but it was mostly on the first set (and highest volume set) leading me to believe it was more my lack of energy today than muscle loss. I'll have a better guage after tomorrows w/o.

The drymouth from the effexor is getting quite noticable - annoyingly so. I can drink shitloads of water and my throat still feels dry. Looking back at the past week, i do seem to be sweating more than usual as well. It's not terribly excessive, though.

Mood seems to have improved mildly, although its probably just joy from finishing the semester. Ive been finding some good info on tyrosine and its interactions with effexor, so i may start toying with tyrosine dosing over the next week.

Finally, im eating slightly more on the high carb days lately. Normally each meal has 2.5 cups of brown rice, its up to around 3 cups now.

Monolith · 05-24-2004, 05:01 PM

Got a copy of my lab results today.

Testosterone is 480 ng/dl.
Prolactin is 28.7 ng/ml.
FSH is 2.3 miu/ml.
Free T4 is 1.69 ng/dl.
LH is 5.1 miu/ml.
TSH is 2.01 miu/ml.

Test is low, but normal. Prolactin is high, and abnormal. FSH is low, but normal. T4 is high, but normal.

Test was taken on 4/27 after a 12 hour fast.

Monolith · 05-25-2004, 09:17 AM

Woke up sick this morning. Sore throat. Cold sweats. Been chugging bottles of vitamin C and echinacea. Ive got a bottle of codeine cough syrup ive been sipping/gulping/chugging too.

Lucky me, its leg day today too. Im gonna try to go in this afternoon still. 2:1 odds say i puke.

PreMier · 05-25-2004, 05:22 PM

Sick?!?! Thats a bitch. Might not want to tax the immune system by hitting the gym... but its up to you

Monolith · 05-25-2004, 08:20 PM

Yeah, i ended up not going to the gym. Just felt too shitty. It feels like a cat has been using my throat as a scratching post.

Tomorrows a scheduled rest day. Thursday, if im better, im gonna do an AM/PM split to get my legs in. Shouldnt be too rough, since its a high carb day.

Monolith · 05-25-2004, 11:37 PM

Forgot to note, ive suspended the piracetam from my morning stack (as of 5/25).

Monolith · 05-26-2004, 12:34 PM

Rest day. Im feeling a bit better today, which is actually suprising. Friend of mine who had a similar cold felt shitty for about a week. Hopefully by tomorrow AM ill be back to normal, so i can hit my legs.

Looks like i might only get 5 meals in today, so im bumping up the protein in each meal (no carb).

05-19-2004, 09:28 AM	#302
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	As strange as it sounds, i think my libido has actually increased some lately. The only thing thats changed is the addition of the effexor. Whats even odder, though, is that one of effexors side effects is decreased libido or sexual dysfunction. So i have no idea wtf is going on.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-19-2004, 01:22 PM	#307
yellowmoomba YM Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,569 Photos: 2	Actually she does (but she's taken)
	My Journal "You are born small and weak... you die small and weak... how you look in between is up to you."

05-19-2004, 05:35 PM	#308
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Man, today has been a weird day so far. All this morning i was horny as shit, which wasnt very helpful considering i had finals until early afternoon. I get home, grab something to eat, and i find i cant stop yawning. I end up passing out for an hour and a half on my bed. I got 8 hours of sleep last night, so i dont know why im so tired half way through the day. Today is a no carb day, but ive never experienced anything like this since i started carb cycling in december. I thought it might be hypoglycemia, but i havent had any other symptoms (no headache, anxiety, etc). The effexor has been at its current dosage for 4 days now (going to ramp up again tomorrow), and while fatigue is listed as a symptom, i hadnt noticed anything previously. I did add some tyrosine to my "morning supp stack," and ive read that it can indirectly lead to an increase in libido as its a dopamine precursor... but ive taken tyrosine before, and never to this effect.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-20-2004, 06:03 PM	#309
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Training for 5/20: Back/Grip One arm DB row - 65lbx10 90lbx10x9/8x7/6 85lbx7/6 CG tbar row - 160lbx7 135lbx8x7x6.5 WG pulldown - 100lbx15 130lbx8 120lbx7.5 DB shrugs - 80lbx12 90lbx10x8 --- Plate pinch - 20lbx65/55x50/40x40/40 (seconds) --- Eh, alright. Increased the reps a bit on the DB row. Im still using the "contraption" for the tbar rows, tried bending over a little further with it today, so i dropped the weights a tad. I really need to find some space to do a real tbar row, though. Bumped up the effexor to 112.5mg today. Havent noticed any changes. Still had good energy in the gym. Diet has been the same the past several days. No alterations.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-20-2004, 08:21 PM	#310
yellowmoomba YM Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,569 Photos: 2	What's up Mono ?? Are you still dropping weight??
	My Journal "You are born small and weak... you die small and weak... how you look in between is up to you."

05-20-2004, 08:27 PM	#311
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,226 Photos: 2	Yes, make room for the true rows Worthless contraption
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

05-21-2004, 04:32 PM	#312
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Yeah, still droppin the pounds. The diet tweak a couple weeks back really speeded things up.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-21-2004, 04:40 PM	#313
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Training for 5/21: Shoulders/Triceps DB mil press - 55lbx8x5 50lbx4 Cybex lateral raise - 100lbx9 80lbx8 60lbx9 drop 20lbx15 Cable front raise - 30lbx10.5 25lbx12x9 Reverse pec dec - 70lbx12x7 drop 40lbx6 --- CG bench - 155lbx9x6 135lbx5.5 Dips - -60lbx10x8x7 (60lb assist) Rope pushdowns - 60lbx10x8x7 --- Took some E/C pre w/o. Good energy despite the no carb day. Shoulder felt better today, weights are back up to where they were 2 weeks ago on the DB press. Increased reps/weights mildly on the next 3 exercises as well. CG bench felt good, wrists got a little sore. I'll tell ya, one good thing about being tall (and having a long reach) is its harder to get pinned under the bar. On the last rep with 135, i could only get the bar up about half way... but i was already well above the pins. Dips were good as well. Used 20lb less of an assist for roughly the same reps. Pushdowns increased slightly. Overall, im quite pleased, considering my weightloss has accelerated.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-21-2004, 05:33 PM	#314
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,226 Photos: 2	Sounds like you haev a lot to be pleased about. Great work man
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

05-23-2004, 02:10 PM	#316
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Just got back from Boston. Game was awesome! Sox owned the jays. It was a night game tho, and got pretty damn cold. I had a sweatshirt and a jacket on and was still freezing. They still had people wandering around trying to sell ice cream, though. I actually managed to avoid any cheats. Meals were a little screwy, though... not a lot of whole food, lots of whey, and meal spacing got messed up too. Nothing too serious though. P, im takin measurements tomorrow. Im not all that confident in my caliper accuracy, but probably somewhere around 19%. Also... i think i may have found one of the reasons my gains have come so slowly. Doc called me last week and mentioned my prolactin was somewhat elevated - at a "28" when normal values for men are between 0-20 (and most men seem to be between 5 and 15). He didnt say what units it was in, but i had him mail me a copy of the blood work. Im actually perusing the various dopamine agonists available right now, trying to find one that might best work with both my physiological and psychological problems. Some of my ADD and depression symptoms, combined with these weird blood values, can (at least as i see it) be traced back to a couple specific dopaminergic pathways. Some 5-HT2 antagonists might fit the bill too... but i think those are mostly antipsychotic meds.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-23-2004, 02:30 PM	#317
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Training for 5/22: Hams/Calves/Abs SLDL - 135lbx10 225lbx10x8x6 205lbx6 Lying curl - 120lbx12x7 90lbx11x8 --- Standing calf raise - 90lbx10 135lbx17x12x10 --- Cable machine crunch - 40lbx12x12x10x8 DB side bends - 90lbx10x8 --- Decent. Banged out a couple more reps on the first SLDL set, but that might have been pure determination than strength (since last week i went 8, 8, 6). Lying curls increased mildly.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-23-2004, 03:31 PM	#318
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	Mono, glad to hear that fatloss is speeding back up to par again! great work on the SL deads!!
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

05-24-2004, 08:14 AM	#319
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Stats for 5/24 - Stomach - 38.75" Right arm - 16.3" Left arm - 16.15" Right quad - 25.75" Left quad - 25.5" Neck - 16.25" BW - 229.5lbs BF - 19% Forgot i was taking measurements this morning, and drank a couple glasses of water before i remembered. I think that explains why the stomach measurement didnt move (after i had a couple more glasses, stomach was out to 39.5... lol). Measurements overall were strange. Arms decreased by a hair, but quads seem to have increased somewhat. Neck is the same for the third week in a row. Scale says i lost 2.5lbs, but i dont see any changes in the tape that warrant that kind of fat loss. Here's to hoping there wasnt too much muscle loss.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-24-2004, 12:30 PM	#320
chiquita6683 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 814 Photos: 1
	In my opinion, it looks like you want your outside to look the way you feel deep inside. You know how hard you've worked to get where you are, and the physical expression of the internal strength is why you like the idea of muscle -Kane

05-24-2004, 02:35 PM	#321
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Hey Chiquita
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-24-2004, 02:47 PM	#322
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Training for 5/24: Chest/Biceps Flat bb bench - 205lbx5x4x3 185lbx6 Decline bb bench - 185lbx6x5x5x4 Incline DB - 60lbx7x5x5 --- Cam bar curl - 75lbx12x7 65lbx7 45lbx10 DB hammer curl - 20lbx10x8x8x7 --- No energy today. Lost some reps here and there, but it was mostly on the first set (and highest volume set) leading me to believe it was more my lack of energy today than muscle loss. I'll have a better guage after tomorrows w/o. The drymouth from the effexor is getting quite noticable - annoyingly so. I can drink shitloads of water and my throat still feels dry. Looking back at the past week, i do seem to be sweating more than usual as well. It's not terribly excessive, though. Mood seems to have improved mildly, although its probably just joy from finishing the semester. Ive been finding some good info on tyrosine and its interactions with effexor, so i may start toying with tyrosine dosing over the next week. Finally, im eating slightly more on the high carb days lately. Normally each meal has 2.5 cups of brown rice, its up to around 3 cups now.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-24-2004, 05:01 PM	#323
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Got a copy of my lab results today. Testosterone is 480 ng/dl. Prolactin is 28.7 ng/ml. FSH is 2.3 miu/ml. Free T4 is 1.69 ng/dl. LH is 5.1 miu/ml. TSH is 2.01 miu/ml. Test is low, but normal. Prolactin is high, and abnormal. FSH is low, but normal. T4 is high, but normal. Test was taken on 4/27 after a 12 hour fast.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-25-2004, 09:17 AM	#324
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Woke up sick this morning. Sore throat. Cold sweats. Been chugging bottles of vitamin C and echinacea. Ive got a bottle of codeine cough syrup ive been sipping/gulping/chugging too. Lucky me, its leg day today too. Im gonna try to go in this afternoon still. 2:1 odds say i puke.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-25-2004, 05:22 PM	#325
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,226 Photos: 2	Sick?!?! Thats a bitch. Might not want to tax the immune system by hitting the gym... but its up to you
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

05-25-2004, 08:20 PM	#326
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Yeah, i ended up not going to the gym. Just felt too shitty. It feels like a cat has been using my throat as a scratching post. Tomorrows a scheduled rest day. Thursday, if im better, im gonna do an AM/PM split to get my legs in. Shouldnt be too rough, since its a high carb day.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-25-2004, 11:37 PM	#327
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Forgot to note, ive suspended the piracetam from my morning stack (as of 5/25).
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-26-2004, 12:34 PM	#328
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Rest day. Im feeling a bit better today, which is actually suprising. Friend of mine who had a similar cold felt shitty for about a week. Hopefully by tomorrow AM ill be back to normal, so i can hit my legs. Looks like i might only get 5 meals in today, so im bumping up the protein in each meal (no carb).
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg <