Rebirth

**Jodi** · 05-12-2004, 05:48 PM

Sorry to hear about your parakeet

Monolith · 05-12-2004, 11:52 PM

Diet has been the same. Had a slight variation today, i had a hamburg patty wrapped in lettuce. It was a friends birthday, so i went all out.

The only thing new to report regarding the sesathin/rebirth, is that i seem to be sweating quite a bit more than usual. Granted, we're having very hot weather here (in the 80's)... but i can just be sitting in front of the computer and be sweating. I dont recall feeling like this last summer, but who knows. There's also the possibility its the effexor, as sweating is listed as a possible side effect... although i only took 37.5mg today, a very very small dose.

**Jodi** · 05-13-2004, 12:05 AM

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Diet has been the same. Had a slight variation today, i had a hamburg patty wrapped in lettuce. It was a friends birthday, so i went all out.

Wow, what a party animal you are

atherjen · 05-13-2004, 06:55 AM

that hilarious!! you badass!! cheatin SO bad on your diet like that!

Im sorry about parakeet

M.J.H. · 05-13-2004, 08:16 AM

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i had a hamburg patty wrapped in lettuce

That's going all out?

Monolith · 05-13-2004, 10:01 AM

I keep telling myself theres plenty of time for alcohol and sugar once i lean up. I just hope i get there before my 21st birthday...

chiquita6683 · 05-13-2004, 10:09 AM

um.......hi

sorry bout any posts in here that were inapropriate

ur an inspiration dude
keep up the hard work, and its ok to cheat!

Monolith · 05-13-2004, 10:16 AM

Hey Chiq

Thanks

Monolith · 05-13-2004, 06:02 PM

Training for 5/13: Back/Grip

One arm DB row - 60lbx10 90lbx10x8/7 85lbx7.5/6.5 (right/left)

CG tbar - 160lbx10x8 145lbx8x6.5

CG pulldown - 110lbx12 120lbx8

DB pullovers - 60lbx9x6 50lbx6

DB shrugs - 80lbx12 85lbx9x7

---

Wrist curl - 50lbx13x12x10

Reverse wrist curl - 30lbx12x10x8

Plate pinch - 20lbx55s/40s

---

Eh, nothin great. Tried taking a homemade version of GO today, but substituted alpha-gpc for the bitartrate. It was weird... it gave me what seemed like an immediate mental clarity and focus, but it didnt last long at all. Maybe 30 minutes? Anyone know how long GO lasts?

**P-funk** · 05-13-2004, 07:51 PM

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Plate pinch - 20lbx55s/40s

about time

Monolith · 05-13-2004, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by P-funk
about time

haha

my goal is two 45lb plates for 120s

PreMier · 05-13-2004, 08:26 PM

This wont work with rubber coated plates will it?

Monolith · 05-13-2004, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by PreMier
This wont work with rubber coated plates will it?

lol, probably not. or at the least, youd be able to hang on to it for a really long time because of the friction.

is that all your gym has?

Another method is to use a cable tower... just attach a clip to one side, and a one hand grip to the other. Put your thumb through the clip, and your fingers through the grip. Squeeze.

I think it was Dante (at avant) who came up with that method.

PreMier · 05-13-2004, 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by Monolith
lol, probably not. or at the least, youd be able to hang on to it for a really long time because of the friction.

is that all your gym has?

Another method is to use a cable tower... just attach a clip to one side, and a one hand grip to the other. Put your thumb through the clip, and your fingers through the grip. Squeeze.

I think it was Dante (at avant) who came up with that method.

Yea, we have these hexagon type plates, with handles in them, and they are rubber/plastic coated. I hate them!

Huh...?

Monolith · 05-13-2004, 10:34 PM

lol

this is the machine im talkin about:

just put a clip on one side, and a one hand attachment on the other side. then put the thumb of your hand through the clip, and the rest of your hand around the hand attachment. squeeze together. get it?

PreMier · 05-13-2004, 10:35 PM

OOOOHHHHH.... Now I get it

Monolith · 05-13-2004, 10:40 PM

i tried to find the thread at avant, but couldnt :/

**Jodi** · 05-14-2004, 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by PreMier
Yea, we have these hexagon type plates, with handles in them, and they are rubber/plastic coated. I hate them!

Huh...?

We have those too.

I love the gym I'm at but this is the one thing I can't stand. The coating makes it such a pain in the ass to take plates on and off.

Monolith · 05-14-2004, 08:07 PM

Training for 5/14: Shoulders/Triceps

DB mil press - 55lbx6 50lbx5x4

Cybex lateral raise - 90lbx12x8 70lbx8 drop 30lbx10

Cable front raise - 25lbx12x9 drop 15lbx8

Reverse pec dec - 50lbx12 70lbx8.5 60lbx8 drop 30lbx12

---

CG bench - 90lbx12x8 70lbx8

Dips - -100lbx10 -80lbx10x9x7

Rope pushdown - 60lbx9x7.5 40lbx12

---

lol.

Weights dropped slightly. Shoulders were most noticable, although i had a few more warmup sets than usual as my right shoulder was feeling a little weird. Todays no carb might have contributed. Eh, whatever.

Nothing new with the sesathin/rebirth. Havent noticed any physical (or mental) changes with the effexor yet. Temperature was cooler today, and there was no excessive sweating, so i think i was a bit premature to suggest the effexor had something to do with it.

PreMier · 05-14-2004, 08:08 PM

How often do you make your own supps?

Nice dips BTW.

Monolith · 05-14-2004, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by PreMier
How often do you make your own supps?

Nice dips BTW.

Note the "-" on the dips. Thats the assisted weight, not added weight... lol.

What do you mean "make my own supps"?

PreMier · 05-14-2004, 08:30 PM

Oh. lol

Your still doin fine brother. You are WAAAAAAAY taller than I thought you were

Tried to make a homemade version of GO. And I saw in another thread that you have a bunch of "kilos" of raws?

Monolith · 05-14-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by PreMier
Oh. lol

Your still doin fine brother. You are WAAAAAAAY taller than I thought you were

Tried to make a homemade version of GO. And I saw in another thread that you have a bunch of "kilos" of raws?

Oh, lol, yeah. Homemade GO is about a quarter the price of the real GO. Although i havent quite got the recipe down, yet. I need to get some choline bitartrate. Doesnt taste as good, though, and its more of a hassle. Although its kind of cool to mix stuff up yourself... imo anyway. Interesting to see how each ingrediant does or doesnt effect you, and then how that can all changed when theyre taken together.

And yeah, im just gonna start blaming my height for all my shitty lifts.

Twin Peak · 05-14-2004, 11:44 PM

My personal pre-workout blend is:

LeptiGen MASS
GO
Leucine
Arginine
NAC
ALA
extra flavor

If I want carbs, I'll add Vendetta.

atherjen · 05-15-2004, 07:04 AM

awesome dips Mono!!

and there is NOTHING wrong with your strength!!

Monolith · 05-15-2004, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by atherjen
awesome dips Mono!!

and there is NOTHING wrong with your strength!!

Yeah... thats right! I'm normal, the rest of you are just genetic freaks.

Hey TP, with all that, im suprised there's no NO2 in your stack.

And have you had any problems with the ALA preworkout? I thought i remember reading problems with hypoglycemia when it was taken without carbs, although that might have been in reference to r-ala.

atherjen · 05-15-2004, 02:59 PM

LOL no no..

I wonder the same thing too.. ?? I know if I take too much ALA or r-ALA even with carb meals I experience hypoglycemic effects. and without food or taken too far before a meal I get heartburn?

Monolith · 05-15-2004, 03:56 PM

Training for 5/15: Hams/Abs/Calves

SLDL - 135lbx10 225lbx8x8x6 205lbx7

Lying curl - 110lbx12x10 90lbx8 70lbx12

---

Cable machine crunch - 40lbx12x12x10x7

DB side bends - 90lbx10x8

---

Standing calf raise - 90lbx12 135lbx16x12x10

---

Grip has improved since i started training it directly a couple weeks ago. Even just several direct sets a week seems to have helped a lot. Doing DB side bends normally tires out my forearms quick, since the weight is banging up against my thigh repeatedly. Wasnt too much of a problem this time, and with higher weight.

I think the grip strength has helped contribute to a nice increase on the SLDL's this week, too. Bar didnt feel as heavy, and i felt like i could concentrate on the hams more without worrying about the bar slipping.

05-12-2004, 05:48 PM	#241
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Sorry to hear about your parakeet
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05-12-2004, 11:52 PM	#242
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Diet has been the same. Had a slight variation today, i had a hamburg patty wrapped in lettuce. It was a friends birthday, so i went all out. The only thing new to report regarding the sesathin/rebirth, is that i seem to be sweating quite a bit more than usual. Granted, we're having very hot weather here (in the 80's)... but i can just be sitting in front of the computer and be sweating. I dont recall feeling like this last summer, but who knows. There's also the possibility its the effexor, as sweating is listed as a possible side effect... although i only took 37.5mg today, a very very small dose.
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05-13-2004, 06:55 AM	#244
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	that hilarious!! you badass!! cheatin SO bad on your diet like that! Im sorry about parakeet
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05-13-2004, 10:01 AM	#246
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	I keep telling myself theres plenty of time for alcohol and sugar once i lean up. I just hope i get there before my 21st birthday...
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05-13-2004, 10:09 AM	#247
chiquita6683 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 815 Photos: 1	um.......hi sorry bout any posts in here that were inapropriate ur an inspiration dude keep up the hard work, and its ok to cheat!
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05-13-2004, 10:16 AM	#248
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Hey Chiq Thanks
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05-13-2004, 06:02 PM	#249
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Training for 5/13: Back/Grip One arm DB row - 60lbx10 90lbx10x8/7 85lbx7.5/6.5 (right/left) CG tbar - 160lbx10x8 145lbx8x6.5 CG pulldown - 110lbx12 120lbx8 DB pullovers - 60lbx9x6 50lbx6 DB shrugs - 80lbx12 85lbx9x7 --- Wrist curl - 50lbx13x12x10 Reverse wrist curl - 30lbx12x10x8 Plate pinch - 20lbx55s/40s --- Eh, nothin great. Tried taking a homemade version of GO today, but substituted alpha-gpc for the bitartrate. It was weird... it gave me what seemed like an immediate mental clarity and focus, but it didnt last long at all. Maybe 30 minutes? Anyone know how long GO lasts?
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-13-2004, 08:26 PM	#252
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,288 Photos: 2	This wont work with rubber coated plates will it?
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05-13-2004, 10:34 PM	#255
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	lol this is the machine im talkin about: just put a clip on one side, and a one hand attachment on the other side. then put the thumb of your hand through the clip, and the rest of your hand around the hand attachment. squeeze together. get it?
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-13-2004, 10:35 PM	#256
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,288 Photos: 2	OOOOHHHHH.... Now I get it
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05-13-2004, 10:40 PM	#257
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	i tried to find the thread at avant, but couldnt :/
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05-14-2004, 08:07 PM	#259
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Training for 5/14: Shoulders/Triceps DB mil press - 55lbx6 50lbx5x4 Cybex lateral raise - 90lbx12x8 70lbx8 drop 30lbx10 Cable front raise - 25lbx12x9 drop 15lbx8 Reverse pec dec - 50lbx12 70lbx8.5 60lbx8 drop 30lbx12 --- CG bench - 90lbx12x8 70lbx8 Dips - -100lbx10 -80lbx10x9x7 Rope pushdown - 60lbx9x7.5 40lbx12 --- lol. Weights dropped slightly. Shoulders were most noticable, although i had a few more warmup sets than usual as my right shoulder was feeling a little weird. Todays no carb might have contributed. Eh, whatever. Nothing new with the sesathin/rebirth. Havent noticed any physical (or mental) changes with the effexor yet. Temperature was cooler today, and there was no excessive sweating, so i think i was a bit premature to suggest the effexor had something to do with it.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg

05-14-2004, 08:08 PM	#260
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,288 Photos: 2	How often do you make your own supps? Nice dips BTW.
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05-14-2004, 08:30 PM	#262
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,288 Photos: 2	Oh. lol Your still doin fine brother. You are WAAAAAAAY taller than I thought you were Tried to make a homemade version of GO. And I saw in another thread that you have a bunch of "kilos" of raws?
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

05-14-2004, 11:44 PM	#264
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05-15-2004, 07:04 AM	#265
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	awesome dips Mono!! and there is NOTHING wrong with your strength!!
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05-15-2004, 02:59 PM	#267
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	LOL no no.. I wonder the same thing too.. ?? I know if I take too much ALA or r-ALA even with carb meals I experience hypoglycemic effects. and without food or taken too far before a meal I get heartburn?
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

05-15-2004, 03:56 PM	#268
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Training for 5/15: Hams/Abs/Calves SLDL - 135lbx10 225lbx8x8x6 205lbx7 Lying curl - 110lbx12x10 90lbx8 70lbx12 --- Cable machine crunch - 40lbx12x12x10x7 DB side bends - 90lbx10x8 --- Standing calf raise - 90lbx12 135lbx16x12x10 --- Grip has improved since i started training it directly a couple weeks ago. Even just several direct sets a week seems to have helped a lot. Doing DB side bends normally tires out my forearms quick, since the weight is banging up against my thigh repeatedly. Wasnt too much of a problem this time, and with higher weight. I think the grip strength has helped contribute to a nice increase on the SLDL's this week, too. Bar didnt feel as heavy, and i felt like i could concentrate on the hams more without worrying about the bar slipping.
	http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ek867/dexamyl.jpg