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Jill · 07-17-2004, 11:44 AM

JODI AND JODIE!!!! HELP ME! Or anyone else.

K, my weight has been the same within 2 pounds for 2 weeks now. Im getting frusterated. TELL me what to do, and Ill do it. Should I:
1. Refeed / carb up
2. Cheat day (anything goes, within reason!)
3. Up my daily calories
4. Up my daily carbs
5. Cut my cardio
I dont care about the mental thing. I need to kick my body in into fat burning again. Thanks anyone

Jill · 07-17-2004, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hikerchick

Hi Jillygirl

I am addicted to sf pops too, maybe we can start a 12 step group? I try to keep it to two a day but when it's hot.....

Congrats on the smaller skirt. STOP GETTING ON THE SCALE!! If you don't ever get on it, it can never make you feel bad!

BTW I found a recipe book that you would absolutely love. It's made by a fitness chick and is super healthy and has all these great good food recipes for chicken, egg whites, sweet potatoes etc. all without sugar and flour and all the "bad" stuff.

Hey hiker!!! Thanks for visiting. 2 sf popsicles? I wish I only ate that many.

I will try and find the cook book, it sounds great! Let me know what the book is called.

greekblondechic · 07-17-2004, 12:03 PM

I am addicted to sugar free popsicles too!!!

Congrats on the smaller skirt size!

Sorry I can't answer your question..but remember NOT to worry about it and whatever you do, do NOT get discouraged. Sometimes the body stalls and then on its own starts making progress again, all that worrying will make you do things you'll regret later! So please.. DONT WORRY ABOUT IT (trust me.. I was eating well, scale not changing and it led me to binge when actually I was starting to get leaner)

BTW, your lower tummy WILL shrink too, it's just going to take longer because it's one of the last things to go..don't worry! I am sure you look awesome!

**Jodi** · 07-17-2004, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jill

JODI AND JODIE!!!! HELP ME! Or anyone else.

K, my weight has been the same within 2 pounds for 2 weeks now. Im getting frusterated. TELL me what to do, and Ill do it. Should I:
1. Refeed / carb up
2. Cheat day (anything goes, within reason!)
3. Up my daily calories
4. Up my daily carbs
5. Cut my cardio
I dont care about the mental thing. I need to kick my body in into fat burning again. Thanks anyone

Personally I would go for a refeed day or a cheat meal (not a cheat day). Your leptin levels are low and you NEED to overfeed to bring them back up. Have you read my article on Refeeds and Leptin?

I wouldn't cut your cardio now, its too late for that IMO. You would have been better off starting out with a few days and then increase but now your body is relying on that amount of cardio.

Jill · 07-17-2004, 12:21 PM

Refeed or cheat? Which one do you think is better? I just read your article. I want to do one or the other today. So far I have ate my protein pancake, 1/2C blueberries, and turkey chili

, and some veggies. Bagles, bread, lf cereal ok for a refeed right? I really want a cinnamon bun too.

lakergirl · 07-17-2004, 12:36 PM

HI JILL!!

everything sounds like its going well! I agree with everyone on the scale thing! Since April, Ive gained 7 pounds! I weigh more than I ever have, but I look better and my bf% is lower than ever too!! So, I know its alll muscle! YEAH!!!

Congrats on the skirts! Isnt it the BEST feeling whenyou go shopping and suddenly everything you try on looks good and makes you feel like a hottie?

I love that and it gets me pumped for more!!

anyway, just wanted to stop by and say hi and have a great weekend!

lakergirl · 07-17-2004, 12:44 PM

one more thing jill!

you said you like sf jello? Well, my latest obsession is jello with strawberries of mandarin slices in it! its sooo good you just make the jello in little containers with teh fruit dropped in. The mandarin slices are my favorite!! mmm, they taste soo good!

**Jodi** · 07-17-2004, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jill

Refeed or cheat? Which one do you think is better? I just read your article. I want to do one or the other today. So far I have ate my protein pancake, 1/2C blueberries, and turkey chili

, and some veggies. Bagles, bread, lf cereal ok for a refeed right? I really want a cinnamon bun too.

That's up to you. If you want the cinnamon bun then that is a cheat. If you want to stick with bread, bagels and cereal without added fats then that's a refeed. Maybe you should do this tomorrow so you have a plan and this doesn't turn into a binge. Please don't take that to offense its just that planning the refeed or cheats are better then just waking up one day and deciding to do them.

Jill · 07-17-2004, 01:35 PM

I already made up my mind, today im gonna have some cheats-whatever i feel like. Had some reeses pieces, and a cookie. NOT GOING TO BE A BINGE! Thanks Jodi.

I think this may shock my body.

carbchick · 07-17-2004, 04:13 PM

Hey Jill, go for it! keep track of what you're eating - calm, controlled and mindful and you will be OK ... you can do it!

JLB001 · 07-17-2004, 07:36 PM

Jillie...I'm sorry I have been MIA. Having issues with work and stuff. I almost quit today. So...to make myself feel better... I Have had red velvet cake, a Mr. Goodbar, pizza, Cheesecake icecream and Oreos. I've lost it! Sick in the head trying to cram all the things I want by Sunday. I should never go to the food store alone after dieting so long! It's bad news! Hmm...guess I could look at it as a completely planned out week to eat bad.

Jodi is so right when she says to plan what you want out so it doesn't go overboard. Just stick to what you plan then resume with things afterward.

Jill · 07-17-2004, 11:13 PM

Well, somehow today turned into a cheat/refeed day. Dumb ass me on a rest day (today), and tomorrow we are going to the beach. I will be blown up little piggy!

Meal 1: 1/3C oats, protein, 2ew's, 1T cottage cheese, 1/2C blueberries
Meal 2: Homemade turkey chili, cukes, diet yogurt
Meal 3: 4oz turkey, lettuce, ff sc, salsa
Shit: Tried to keep my fat as low as possible
Reeses Pieces
2 cookies
4 whole grain dinner buns-fairly small with light margarine
1.5 bagles (not at once), lt cream cheese and turkey breast
Crackers
SF ff fudgsicles

I dont know how people eat these nasty carbs-I feel gross. Bloated and disgusting. I dont think it was a full blown 'binged', but it was very close to a several hour mini binge, and I didnt like the feelings it brought back. I dont plan for a refeed or cheat for a while now. I hope this doesnt put me into any type of fat storing mode or anything. Or if it fucks up my last month of progress Ill be pissed. Call me stupid if I DARE step on the scale in the next few days....

On a lighter note Steve and I booked our tickets to the olympia!!!! We are going to all 3 shows. We also bought a new bedroom suite today too.http://www.thebrick.com/Application/...2DFA330445A43D

Jill · 07-17-2004, 11:31 PM

Oh, add 2 granola bars to my hurting gut

bamslam2001 · 07-17-2004, 11:45 PM

did you ever think of trying atkins???

bamslam2001 · 07-17-2004, 11:46 PM

tell me what you need help with i might be able to guide you ..

Jill · 07-18-2004, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamslam2001

did you ever think of trying atkins???

I'd never do atkins. I weight train frequently, the no carb thing would kill me. Read through my journal, the last month. Just hit a weight plateau, did a refeed/mini cheat today, first in a month after doing fairly low carb / low cal. Just hoping it kick starts the fat burning again.

JLB001 · 07-18-2004, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jill

Well, somehow today turned into a cheat/refeed day. Dumb ass me on a rest day (today), and tomorrow we are going to the beach. I will be blown up little piggy!

Meal 1: 1/3C oats, protein, 2ew's, 1T cottage cheese, 1/2C blueberries
Meal 2: Homemade turkey chili, cukes, diet yogurt
Meal 3: 4oz turkey, lettuce, ff sc, salsa
Shit: Tried to keep my fat as low as possible
Reeses Pieces
2 cookies
4 whole grain dinner buns-fairly small with light margarine
1.5 bagles (not at once), lt cream cheese and turkey breast
Crackers
SF ff fudgsicles

I dont know how people eat these nasty carbs-I feel gross. Bloated and disgusting. I dont think it was a full blown 'binged', but it was very close to a several hour mini binge, and I didnt like the feelings it brought back. I dont plan for a refeed or cheat for a while now. I hope this doesnt put me into any type of fat storing mode or anything. Or if it fucks up my last month of progress Ill be pissed. Call me stupid if I DARE step on the scale in the next few days....

On a lighter note Steve and I booked our tickets to the olympia!!!! We are going to all 3 shows. We also bought a new bedroom suite today too.http://www.thebrick.com/Application/...2DFA330445A43D

Do not go near the scale for two days. See..it is easy to make yourself so stuffed on foods that you think you wanted so quickly. I think that is why I waste so much stuff when I do it.

I hope you had a great day at the beach! Sounds so fun.

atherjen · 07-18-2004, 07:17 PM

MMMmm reeses peices and cookies

dang I should have had those yestarday!

stay far away from the scale for a few days Jilly... all water weight! and no worries, that one afternoon will NOT set you progress back, if anything it will aid to beat the lil plateau.

thats so awesome that you and Steve are going to the Olympia! LUCKY DUCKS!

Jill · 07-18-2004, 11:29 PM

07/18

Meal 1: 1/4C oats, 50ml ew's, 1T cottage cheese, protein
Meal 2: 1/3C oats, 50ml ew's, 1T cottage cheese, protein
Meal 3: 1/3C brown rice, 4oz chix, broccoli
Meal 4: 1-2oz chix, veggies, dried fruit
Meal 5: 2 pieces pizza, nachos and salsa (no cheese

)
snack: sf popsicles

Training:
Cardio: 50 mins ct
Weights: chest

This mornin I woke up with a horrible tummy ache-it actually lasted till atleast 4pm today. Have never experienced a tummy ache like this, EVER. Im guessing it was yesterdays food. I made myself workout, despite the uncomfortable feeling.

Today was supposed to be ALL clean, but we went to my bros house (1.5hours from home) he lives on a lake! We went boating, toobing, and wake boarding. I didnt attempt the wake boarding.

It was SUPER hot, I got a nice tan, ooops I mean sunburn! I brought some food but didnt trust the chix, cause it was to friggin hot. ATleast it wasnt a full binge or anything. I cant wait to eat clean tomorrow, back to normal. Am cardio tomorrow at 5am.

greekblondechic · 07-19-2004, 01:00 AM

Good job Jilly!

hey.. ya had to eat something!

Jenny · 07-19-2004, 02:53 AM

Hey Jill

Some yummy meals this weekend girl, mmm

Good job on not binging

Hopefully it will put you right back in fatburning mode

Jill · 07-19-2004, 07:11 AM

Morning Jenny!

Our power wentout last night, so I am gonna call my work and tell them that I'll be late cause of that-when really I COULD be on time, I just wanna go do some cardio first.

I am sad.

STUPID STUPID STUPID me. I stepped on the scale this am. Up 6-7 Pounds!

Is this friggin normal or what?

**P-funk** · 07-19-2004, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Is this friggin normal or what?

The sodium in the pizza and nacho's will make you hold water. 6-7lbs isn't so bad. You will dry back out in no time.

Jenny · 07-19-2004, 07:21 AM

Jill, throw the damn scale out the window!!

Don't stress about it sweetie, it doesn't do you any good at ALL!

Don't worry sweets

Please please please don't start your bad thinking again, you had a refeed, now move on

Jill · 07-19-2004, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

The sodium in the pizza and nacho's will make you hold water. 6-7lbs isn't so bad. You will dry back out in no time.

For real P-funk? Cause I feel like crying today. I had a huge refeed Sat too-TONNES of bread. That a contributing factor?

JLB001 · 07-19-2004, 07:26 AM

Jill..its very normal. its water weight it will come right back down when you go back to eatting clean. When you do, you will be going tinkle alot for a few days to get rid of the water, just be sure to drink more water the next few days to help flush it out.

Pizza will make you hold like a sponge. I'm not so bad with holding water from bread.

**P-funk** · 07-19-2004, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jill

For real P-funk? Cause I feel like crying today. I had a huge refeed Sat too-TONNES of bread. That a contributing factor?

yes, for real.

I walked away form my CPU and jodie beat me to it

07-17-2004, 12:03 PM	#423
greekblondechic I'm special :) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 7,791	I am addicted to sugar free popsicles too!!! Congrats on the smaller skirt size! Sorry I can't answer your question..but remember NOT to worry about it and whatever you do, do NOT get discouraged. Sometimes the body stalls and then on its own starts making progress again, all that worrying will make you do things you'll regret later! So please.. DONT WORRY ABOUT IT (trust me.. I was eating well, scale not changing and it led me to binge when actually I was starting to get leaner) BTW, your lower tummy WILL shrink too, it's just going to take longer because it's one of the last things to go..don't worry! I am sure you look awesome!
	I can do it I WILL be a size 5.

07-17-2004, 12:21 PM	#425
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Refeed or cheat? Which one do you think is better? I just read your article. I want to do one or the other today. So far I have ate my protein pancake, 1/2C blueberries, and turkey chili, and some veggies. Bagles, bread, lf cereal ok for a refeed right? I really want a cinnamon bun too.

07-17-2004, 04:13 PM	#430
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	Hey Jill, go for it! keep track of what you're eating - calm, controlled and mindful and you will be OK ... you can do it!
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07-17-2004, 07:36 PM	#431
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	Jillie...I'm sorry I have been MIA. Having issues with work and stuff. I almost quit today. So...to make myself feel better... I Have had red velvet cake, a Mr. Goodbar, pizza, Cheesecake icecream and Oreos. I've lost it! Sick in the head trying to cram all the things I want by Sunday. I should never go to the food store alone after dieting so long! It's bad news! Hmm...guess I could look at it as a completely planned out week to eat bad. Jodi is so right when she says to plan what you want out so it doesn't go overboard. Just stick to what you plan then resume with things afterward.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."

07-17-2004, 11:45 PM	#434
bamslam2001 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3	did you ever think of trying atkins???
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07-17-2004, 11:44 AM	#421
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	JODI AND JODIE!!!! HELP ME! Or anyone else. K, my weight has been the same within 2 pounds for 2 weeks now. Im getting frusterated. TELL me what to do, and Ill do it. Should I: 1. Refeed / carb up 2. Cheat day (anything goes, within reason!) 3. Up my daily calories 4. Up my daily carbs 5. Cut my cardio I dont care about the mental thing. I need to kick my body in into fat burning again. Thanks anyone

07-17-2004, 12:36 PM	#426
lakergirl impossible is nothing Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 200	HI JILL!! everything sounds like its going well! I agree with everyone on the scale thing! Since April, Ive gained 7 pounds! I weigh more than I ever have, but I look better and my bf% is lower than ever too!! So, I know its alll muscle! YEAH!!! Congrats on the skirts! Isnt it the BEST feeling whenyou go shopping and suddenly everything you try on looks good and makes you feel like a hottie? I love that and it gets me pumped for more!! anyway, just wanted to stop by and say hi and have a great weekend!

07-17-2004, 12:44 PM	#427
lakergirl impossible is nothing Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 200	one more thing jill! you said you like sf jello? Well, my latest obsession is jello with strawberries of mandarin slices in it! its sooo good you just make the jello in little containers with teh fruit dropped in. The mandarin slices are my favorite!! mmm, they taste soo good!

07-17-2004, 01:35 PM	#429
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	I already made up my mind, today im gonna have some cheats-whatever i feel like. Had some reeses pieces, and a cookie. NOT GOING TO BE A BINGE! Thanks Jodi. I think this may shock my body.

07-17-2004, 11:13 PM	#432
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Well, somehow today turned into a cheat/refeed day. Dumb ass me on a rest day (today), and tomorrow we are going to the beach. I will be blown up little piggy! Meal 1: 1/3C oats, protein, 2ew's, 1T cottage cheese, 1/2C blueberries Meal 2: Homemade turkey chili, cukes, diet yogurt Meal 3: 4oz turkey, lettuce, ff sc, salsa Shit: Tried to keep my fat as low as possible Reeses Pieces 2 cookies 4 whole grain dinner buns-fairly small with light margarine 1.5 bagles (not at once), lt cream cheese and turkey breast Crackers SF ff fudgsicles I dont know how people eat these nasty carbs-I feel gross. Bloated and disgusting. I dont think it was a full blown 'binged', but it was very close to a several hour mini binge, and I didnt like the feelings it brought back. I dont plan for a refeed or cheat for a while now. I hope this doesnt put me into any type of fat storing mode or anything. Or if it fucks up my last month of progress Ill be pissed. Call me stupid if I DARE step on the scale in the next few days.... On a lighter note Steve and I booked our tickets to the olympia!!!! We are going to all 3 shows. We also bought a new bedroom suite today too.http://www.thebrick.com/Application/...2DFA330445A43D

07-17-2004, 11:31 PM	#433
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Oh, add 2 granola bars to my hurting gut

07-17-2004, 11:46 PM	#435
bamslam2001 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3	tell me what you need help with i might be able to guide you ..
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07-18-2004, 07:17 PM	#438
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	MMMmm reeses peices and cookies dang I should have had those yestarday! stay far away from the scale for a few days Jilly... all water weight! and no worries, that one afternoon will NOT set you progress back, if anything it will aid to beat the lil plateau. thats so awesome that you and Steve are going to the Olympia! LUCKY DUCKS!
	" To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

07-18-2004, 11:29 PM	#439
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	07/18 Meal 1: 1/4C oats, 50ml ew's, 1T cottage cheese, protein Meal 2: 1/3C oats, 50ml ew's, 1T cottage cheese, protein Meal 3: 1/3C brown rice, 4oz chix, broccoli Meal 4: 1-2oz chix, veggies, dried fruit Meal 5: 2 pieces pizza, nachos and salsa (no cheese ) snack: sf popsicles Training: Cardio: 50 mins ct Weights: chest This mornin I woke up with a horrible tummy ache-it actually lasted till atleast 4pm today. Have never experienced a tummy ache like this, EVER. Im guessing it was yesterdays food. I made myself workout, despite the uncomfortable feeling. Today was supposed to be ALL clean, but we went to my bros house (1.5hours from home) he lives on a lake! We went boating, toobing, and wake boarding. I didnt attempt the wake boarding. It was SUPER hot, I got a nice tan, ooops I mean sunburn! I brought some food but didnt trust the chix, cause it was to friggin hot. ATleast it wasnt a full binge or anything. I cant wait to eat clean tomorrow, back to normal. Am cardio tomorrow at 5am.

07-19-2004, 01:00 AM	#440
greekblondechic I'm special :) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 7,791	Good job Jilly! hey.. ya had to eat something!
	I can do it I WILL be a size 5.

07-19-2004, 02:53 AM	#441
Jenny Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,728	Hey Jill Some yummy meals this weekend girl, mmm Good job on not binging Hopefully it will put you right back in fatburning mode

07-19-2004, 07:11 AM	#442
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Morning Jenny! Our power wentout last night, so I am gonna call my work and tell them that I'll be late cause of that-when really I COULD be on time, I just wanna go do some cardio first. I am sad. STUPID STUPID STUPID me. I stepped on the scale this am. Up 6-7 Pounds! Is this friggin normal or what?

07-19-2004, 07:21 AM	#444
Jenny Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,728	Jill, throw the damn scale out the window!! Don't stress about it sweetie, it doesn't do you any good at ALL! Don't worry sweets Please please please don't start your bad thinking again, you had a refeed, now move on

07-19-2004, 07:26 AM	#446
JLB001 I see YOU!! Elite Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 8,293 Photos: 5	Jill..its very normal. its water weight it will come right back down when you go back to eatting clean. When you do, you will be going tinkle alot for a few days to get rid of the water, just be sure to drink more water the next few days to help flush it out. Pizza will make you hold like a sponge. I'm not so bad with holding water from bread.
	"When you get to the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on."