Twin Peak's Gettin' It On

Twin Peak · 06-02-2004, 05:50 PM

Well, its time and long overdue for a new journal.

Its been a long time since I have journalled here. But alas, I think I'll have at it once again. Mostly, what has keep me from journalling is my lack of defined goals. I have sort of been coasting along, with no real short term plan, which is what makes a journal interesting to begin with. So here I will set some goals, aside from continuing my recovery process.

Short Term Goal -- Drop 4-5 pounds of fat, and one inch on my waist, while adding a few pounds of muscle between now and July 2, when I leave for vacation.

Goal BW = 206-210
Goal Stomach = 36"
Goal BF% = 10%
Medium Term Goal -- Upon return from Vacation and about 10 days off from training, I will perform an abbreviated version of Phase III of TP-PT, to reacclimate from the rest, and then I will begin a six week Arm Enhance program (something I have been thinking up for some time now).

Goal BW = 210-215
Goal Stomach = 36"
Goal BF% = 10%
Arm = increase of 1 inch, or increase to about 18 1/2 inches.
This will lead me to just before the Olympia, and I will want to spend a few weeks cutting to drop to around 8% or so.

Long Term Goal

Post-Olympia, do some serious bulking, and finish up by the end of January at:

Goal BW = 220-230
Goal Stomach = 37"
Goal BF% = 10-13%
Goal Arm = 19+ inches.
Then I will select a contest to compete in for the end of Spring, early Summer. This journal will at least go throgh my short term goal, beyond that, well, we will see.

Current Stats

BW = 205-210
Stomach = tad under 37"
BF% = 12%ish
Arm = 17 1/2 inches.
Calipers:

Stomach: 18 mm
Leg: 12 mm
Chest: 12
Current Diet

Modified Carb Cycle

Current Training

Extended Phase I of TP-PT

Current Supplements

H.E.A.T. Stack
SesaThin
LeptiGen MASS and/or Rebirth
BSL Whey Protein Concentrate (a truck-load)
GO, NitroJet, and/or ICE pre and during workouts
Fish Oil
Multi
MSM, Glucosamine, Chondrotin
From time to time:

Milk Thistle, NAC, ALCAR, Leucine, Arginine, Caffiene, Yohimbine, spiked Ab-Solved, LipoDerm ODB

Background: For those that don't know my history, at the end of July 03 I had reached my largest and strongest ever. Then I completely snapped a tendon in my rotator cuff benching 435 (at a BW of 215). I had surgery, and have been recovering since. I am just about back to where I was, size-wise, though I cannot go heavy on chest and shoulder exercises, and I still feel the cuff from time to time. However, I am mostly back, so long as I stay away from certain exercises.

My most recent pictures are from December and can be found here:

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=52&t=7145&hl=pic&

Prior to injury pictures can be found here:

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=6&t=4402&hl=pic&

All questions, comments, and input is welcome

**Prince** · 06-02-2004, 05:54 PM

no PH's?

Saturday Fever · 06-02-2004, 05:55 PM

How tall are you, if I may ask.

Var · 06-02-2004, 05:57 PM

Good luck, TP! Looking forward to following along!

**Jodi** · 06-02-2004, 05:58 PM

Bout time!

You spiking absolved with cap?

atherjen · 06-02-2004, 06:44 PM

OOooooOOOoo LA laaa

BEst of luck with you goals TP! your a wise man! I know you'll reach them

shortstuff · 06-02-2004, 07:03 PM

TP I had no idea you were so young! You can hardly tell a difference post and pre injury Congrats!! And good luck!!!

zenreich6005 · 06-02-2004, 07:41 PM

good luck. im gonna follow this one..

PreMier · 06-02-2004, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atherjen

OOooooOOOoo LA laaa

What the hell.. TP eats magic mushrooms? LMAO

Good luck TP. Going for the big gunz eh?

Monolith · 06-02-2004, 08:36 PM

Welcome back, TP.

**P-funk** · 06-02-2004, 08:45 PM

Cool!! Good luck TP.

Which gym do you lift at again? (If you don't mind me asking.)

Twin Peak · 06-02-2004, 09:23 PM

Thanks all, for the support.

Let's see if I can answer some questions.

Prince, I posted this recently at Avant:

Quote:

Regarding PH/PS use, I think I am going to quit using it for now. This may or may not be permanent. Why? It sort of just hit me, but I have used plenty over the past 1 1/2 years, and there I have several thoughts:

* I can honestly say that I am not sure that in all this time I am not sure I have any more muscle now, than I would without it.

* I cannot attribute any (appreciable) strength gains to it.

* They do nothing for me in terms of nutrient partitioning. They do not help me lose fat, they do not help prevent gaining fat when bulking.

* Then there is the ever present concern in the back of your mind regarding long term effects of hormone fluctuations, etc.

* Lastly, I have really nailed down training, nutrient timing and supplementation to a tee, and I believe I can (relatively) easily achieve my goals even if PH/PS use would increase total LBM.

So for now, and indefinitely, I am PH/PS free.

I have been off since March.

I am a tad over 5'10", and am 31. Training off and on for 13 years. I have never lifted more than 2 years straight without a significant layoff. First competition was in 1996, and last in 1998 (there were only two).

I am a endo at heart, being fat my whole life and always battling the buldge. Prior to getting bit by the lifting bug, I had a 50" waist.

And its been a long time since I had magic mushrooms.

Twin Peak · 06-02-2004, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Bout time!

You spiking absolved with cap?

No, DHEA and 6-oxo.

**IainDaniel** · 06-02-2004, 09:32 PM

bout freakin time

No I am not a stalker, but conicidently I just browsed through a few of your previous journals the other week, after comments in Premiers journals. It was cool seeing the Carb Cycling idea originating back then.

Good luck will be following.

Twin Peak · 06-02-2004, 09:43 PM

I haven't done it in a while, but its amusing looking back on some of those old threads/journals.

Carb Cycling was derived then, I had used it twice before for my contests, but that was the first time I had discussed it on line.

I recall a few people, in particular Fitgirl, following the diet with great success. It has evolved since then, obviously.

I find it funny how common the term Carb Cycling is thrown around (for example, that dude posting his "article" in that other thread today) when, previous to my articles, a was a phrase you could not find on the net.

**IainDaniel** · 06-02-2004, 10:01 PM

That is quite the Supplement Regime there. But one question I don't see Celltech?

**Jodi** · 06-02-2004, 11:59 PM

Why DHEA if its already made up of it?

aggies1ut · 06-03-2004, 12:52 AM

How's the BSL Whey concentrate taste? Have you tried the fruit tropical or orange cream? I have the L/C whey in chocolate and just ordered some of the concentrate in vanilla.

Twin Peak · 06-03-2004, 07:23 AM

I like the BSL whey proteins. Taste-wise they are not quite as good as Nectar, but you can't beet the price.

I like the orange cream a lot, as well as the apple. I have some fruittropical, but haven't tried it yet.

Um, Jodi, Ab-Solved does not have DHEA.

Sorry, I forgot to list the Cell-Tech.

ncgirl21 · 06-03-2004, 07:47 AM

Good Luck!!

**IainDaniel** · 06-03-2004, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

No, DHEA and 6-oxo.

Sorry to whore up your journal.

But what is cap? and why DHEA, isn't 7-oxo a metabolite of DHEA?

Twin Peak · 06-03-2004, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Sorry to whore up your journal.

But what is cap? and why DHEA, isn't 7-oxo a metabolite of DHEA?

Feel free, that's sort of the point, as long as it stays "on-topic" relatively speaking.

Capsaicin:

http://www.avantlabs.com/page.php?pageID=175&issueID=16

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=2&t=6647&hl=cap&

DHEA and 7-oxo-DHEA are very different compounds. As to why:

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=1&t=1771&hl=dhea&

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=12&t=2782&hl=dhea&

There are other threads as well.

**Jodi** · 06-03-2004, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

I like the BSL whey proteins. Taste-wise they are not quite as good as Nectar, but you can't beet the price.

I like the orange cream a lot, as well as the apple. I have some fruittropical, but haven't tried it yet.

Um, Jodi, Ab-Solved does not have DHEA.

Sorry, I forgot to list the Cell-Tech.

Is 3-Acetyl-7-Oxo DHEA different?

For BSL flavors I have are all yummy

I like orange cream and tropical

**Edit:** Just noticed above post when I finished reading

Monolith · 06-03-2004, 12:02 PM

Have you ever tried oral DHEA, TP?

Twin Peak · 06-03-2004, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monolith

Have you ever tried oral DHEA, TP?

No. And I never will, too high of a conversion to estrogen, if I recall.

Yes Jodi, they are completely different.

Thursday -- Update

Today was shoulders and hams (I flip flopped rear delts and hams), and despite being very low calories yesterday, it was a very good workout. Bear in mind my shoulder issues, it went something like this:

Lateral Raises

30 x 12
30 x 12, 20 x 6
30 x 10

Hammer Strength Presses

2 plates per side x 10
2 plates + 10 per side x 10
2 plates + 10 per side x 10

Seated DB Presses

50s x 12
55s x 12 --> front raises 30 x 4
60s x 12 --> front raises 30 x 4

*Mind you, the best I have done previously, post surgery was 50 x 10, so this was very encouraging.

Then I did Leg Curls and SLDLs, 3 sets each, and a bunch of cuff work.

Diet was tight yesterday, as it has been today, and I am friggin' starving. Ah well.

Monolith · 06-03-2004, 02:55 PM

You make those 60sx12 look too easy.

What were you doing pre-injury?

Twin Peak · 06-03-2004, 03:17 PM

Actually, it was easy, which is why I was pleased.

Pre-injury, I mostly did barbell presses. If memory serves, I was getting 275 for 4 or 5 reps.

If I did DBs, it was likely in the 90-100 range -- too difficult to get anything heavier into position.

06-02-2004, 05:50 PM	#1
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	Twin Peak's Gettin' It On Well, its time and long overdue for a new journal. Its been a long time since I have journalled here. But alas, I think I'll have at it once again. Mostly, what has keep me from journalling is my lack of defined goals. I have sort of been coasting along, with no real short term plan, which is what makes a journal interesting to begin with. So here I will set some goals, aside from continuing my recovery process. Short Term Goal -- Drop 4-5 pounds of fat, and one inch on my waist, while adding a few pounds of muscle between now and July 2, when I leave for vacation. Goal BW = 206-210 Goal Stomach = 36" Goal BF% = 10% Medium Term Goal -- Upon return from Vacation and about 10 days off from training, I will perform an abbreviated version of Phase III of TP-PT, to reacclimate from the rest, and then I will begin a six week Arm Enhance program (something I have been thinking up for some time now). Goal BW = 210-215 Goal Stomach = 36" Goal BF% = 10% Arm = increase of 1 inch, or increase to about 18 1/2 inches. This will lead me to just before the Olympia, and I will want to spend a few weeks cutting to drop to around 8% or so. Long Term Goal Post-Olympia, do some serious bulking, and finish up by the end of January at: Goal BW = 220-230 Goal Stomach = 37" Goal BF% = 10-13% Goal Arm = 19+ inches. Then I will select a contest to compete in for the end of Spring, early Summer. This journal will at least go throgh my short term goal, beyond that, well, we will see. Current Stats BW = 205-210 Stomach = tad under 37" BF% = 12%ish Arm = 17 1/2 inches. Calipers: Stomach: 18 mm Leg: 12 mm Chest: 12 Current Diet Modified Carb Cycle Current Training Extended Phase I of TP-PT Current Supplements H.E.A.T. Stack SesaThin LeptiGen MASS and/or Rebirth BSL Whey Protein Concentrate (a truck-load) GO, NitroJet, and/or ICE pre and during workouts Fish Oil Multi MSM, Glucosamine, Chondrotin From time to time: Milk Thistle, NAC, ALCAR, Leucine, Arginine, Caffiene, Yohimbine, spiked Ab-Solved, LipoDerm ODB Background: For those that don't know my history, at the end of July 03 I had reached my largest and strongest ever. Then I completely snapped a tendon in my rotator cuff benching 435 (at a BW of 215). I had surgery, and have been recovering since. I am just about back to where I was, size-wise, though I cannot go heavy on chest and shoulder exercises, and I still feel the cuff from time to time. However, I am mostly back, so long as I stay away from certain exercises. My most recent pictures are from December and can be found here: http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=52&t=7145&hl=pic& Prior to injury pictures can be found here: http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=6&t=4402&hl=pic& All questions, comments, and input is welcome
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06-02-2004, 05:54 PM	#2
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06-02-2004, 05:55 PM	#3
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06-02-2004, 05:57 PM	#4
Var Filthy Animal Join Date: May 2002 Location: Finally back in New England!! Posts: 5,438	Good luck, TP! Looking forward to following along!
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06-02-2004, 05:58 PM	#5
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Bout time! You spiking absolved with cap?
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06-02-2004, 06:44 PM	#6
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	OOooooOOOoo LA laaa BEst of luck with you goals TP! your a wise man! I know you'll reach them
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06-02-2004, 07:03 PM	#7
shortstuff Trying to Survive Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,727	TP I had no idea you were so young! You can hardly tell a difference post and pre injury Congrats!! And good luck!!!
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06-02-2004, 07:41 PM	#8
zenreich6005 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 119	good luck. im gonna follow this one..

06-02-2004, 08:36 PM	#10
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Welcome back, TP.
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06-02-2004, 08:45 PM	#11
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,629	Cool!! Good luck TP. Which gym do you lift at again? (If you don't mind me asking.)
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06-02-2004, 09:32 PM	#14
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,908	bout freakin time No I am not a stalker, but conicidently I just browsed through a few of your previous journals the other week, after comments in Premiers journals. It was cool seeing the Carb Cycling idea originating back then. Good luck will be following.
	Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it. Michael Jordan

06-02-2004, 09:43 PM	#15
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	I haven't done it in a while, but its amusing looking back on some of those old threads/journals. Carb Cycling was derived then, I had used it twice before for my contests, but that was the first time I had discussed it on line. I recall a few people, in particular Fitgirl, following the diet with great success. It has evolved since then, obviously. I find it funny how common the term Carb Cycling is thrown around (for example, that dude posting his "article" in that other thread today) when, previous to my articles, a was a phrase you could not find on the net.
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06-02-2004, 10:01 PM	#16
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,908	That is quite the Supplement Regime there. But one question I don't see Celltech?
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06-02-2004, 11:59 PM	#17
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	Why DHEA if its already made up of it?
	Essence EFA

06-03-2004, 12:52 AM	#18
aggies1ut NorCal Elite Member* Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sacramento, Ca. Posts: 3,580 Photos: 19	How's the BSL Whey concentrate taste? Have you tried the fruit tropical or orange cream? I have the L/C whey in chocolate and just ordered some of the concentrate in vanilla.

06-03-2004, 07:23 AM	#19
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	I like the BSL whey proteins. Taste-wise they are not quite as good as Nectar, but you can't beet the price. I like the orange cream a lot, as well as the apple. I have some fruittropical, but haven't tried it yet. Um, Jodi, Ab-Solved does not have DHEA. Sorry, I forgot to list the Cell-Tech.
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06-03-2004, 07:47 AM	#20
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06-03-2004, 12:02 PM	#24
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Have you ever tried oral DHEA, TP?
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06-03-2004, 02:55 PM	#26
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	You make those 60sx12 look too easy. What were you doing pre-injury?
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06-03-2004, 03:17 PM	#27
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	Actually, it was easy, which is why I was pleased. Pre-injury, I mostly did barbell presses. If memory serves, I was getting 275 for 4 or 5 reps. If I did DBs, it was likely in the 90-100 range -- too difficult to get anything heavier into position.
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