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Old 07-13-2004, 08:25 PM   #91
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Small gains, yes... and the weights are still pretty wimpy, but considering my cutting diet and history of shitty strength, this is pretty fuckin awesome. I'll save my judgement of the M4OHN till the end of this week, though, as i didnt experience the same results on my chest/bi day. So i'll have to see what happens....
Yea, but I also remember from reading your last journal that your legs would increase in size where your other parts didnt.

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Old 07-13-2004, 08:27 PM   #92
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lmfao

Let me concentrate on being "the next Jodi" or "the next atherjen" first.



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Old 07-14-2004, 06:13 AM   #93
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LOWER AB PAIN!!!!!

Hopefully it's not still bothering you.l...



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Old 07-14-2004, 09:12 AM   #94
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LOWER AB PAIN!!!!!

Hopefully it's not still bothering you.l...
LOL

Yeah, all i could think about was "oh crap, hernia!" but i dont think thats what it was. Didn't feel any "buldge's" anyway. It only happens once every couple months, and only on leg day.



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Old 07-14-2004, 09:49 PM   #95
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No carb day. No gym. Per some intersting tidbits i read recently regarding morning body temp and metabolic rate, im going to try and start logging my waking temperature for at least a week or so.



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Old 07-14-2004, 09:50 PM   #96
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Your crazy..



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Your crazy..
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PM, you been taking extra doses of your pain meds?



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Old 07-14-2004, 09:55 PM   #98
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Yea, actually I have. Now they are all running out, with no more refills



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Old 07-14-2004, 10:02 PM   #99
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Yea, actually I have. Now they are all running out, with no more refills
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thats no good. think you can get away with a few shots of vodka at work?



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Old 07-14-2004, 10:11 PM   #100
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I dont drink. You got any any Percoset's for sale I am about out(Loritab)... all I have left is Vicodin.



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Old 07-15-2004, 10:24 AM   #101
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I dont drink. You got any any Percoset's for sale I am about out(Loritab)... all I have left is Vicodin.
I dont have any... but im sure some overseas pharmacies could help you out.



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Old 07-15-2004, 11:08 AM   #102
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I dont drink. You got any any Percoset's for sale I am about out(Loritab)... all I have left is Vicodin.
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Old 07-15-2004, 11:26 AM   #103
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Per some intersting tidbits i read recently regarding morning body temp and metabolic rate, im going to try and start logging my waking temperature for at least a week or so.
funny timing! yesterday it started to look like i'm going to have a chance to work with a really good nutritionist and one of the first few things he asked me to do was to take my temp first thing in the morning for 3 days....

do you happen to have a link or anything to what you had read?



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Old 07-15-2004, 02:11 PM   #104
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funny timing! yesterday it started to look like i'm going to have a chance to work with a really good nutritionist and one of the first few things he asked me to do was to take my temp first thing in the morning for 3 days....

do you happen to have a link or anything to what you had read?
Am J Physiol. 1992 Oct;263(4 Pt 1):E730-4.

Concomitant interindividual variation in body temperature and metabolic rate.

Rising R, Keys A, Ravussin E, Bogardus C.

Clinical Diabetes and Nutrition Section, National Institute of Diabetes and
Digestive and Kidney Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Phoenix, Arizona
85016.

There is significant variation in metabolic rate in humans, independent of
differences in body size, body composition, age, and gender. Although it has
been generally held that the normal human "set-point" body temperature is 37
degrees C, these interindividual variations in metabolic rate also suggest
possible variations in body temperature. To examine the possibility of
correlations between metabolic rate and body temperature, triplicate
measurements of oral temperatures were made before and after measurement of 24-h
energy expenditure in a respiratory chamber in 23 Pima Indian men. Fasting oral
temperatures varied more between individuals than can be attributed to
methodological errors or intraindividual variation. Oral temperatures correlated
with sleeping (r = 0.80, P < 0.0001), and 24-h (r = 0.48, P < 0.02) metabolic
rates adjusted for differences in body size, body composition, and age.
Similarly, in the 32 Caucasian men of the Minnesota Semi-Starvation Study, oral
temperature correlated with adjusted metabolic rate, and the interindividual
differences in body temperature were maintained throughout semistarvation and
refeeding. These results suggest that a low body temperature and a low metabolic
rate might be two signs of an obesity-prone syndrome in humans.


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Translated via Lyle, this means morning temps of 97.8-98.2 are indicative of a metabolism functioning at 100%. A degree variance from this denotes a 7-10% variance.

For this to be accurate, the temperature has to be taken the moment you wake up. So keep the thermometer next to your bed.



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Old 07-15-2004, 02:19 PM   #105
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Training for 7/15: Back/Traps

Rack deads
225lbx5
315lbx4
315lbx5
315lbx4+1

Rack deads w/ straps
315lbx10
405lbx1+2 (ugh)
315lbx6x6

DB row
70lbx8/7
70lbx6/5
60lbx6/5

Pulldown
120lbx10
120lbx10
120lbx7.5

DB shrugs
80lbx10
80lbx10
80lbx10

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Well, interesting day. Normal rack deads were a good bit stronger. Pins set at the knees. Last week i got a set of 4 and a set of 3 at 315. This week it went 4, then 5. But, i finally got pissed off at my ghetto grip and grabbed the straps from my car. Hooked myself up, and pulled 315 for an easy 10. So... yeah. Its obvious my grip is incredibly weak, and holding me back quite a bit. Anyway, feeling pretty primed after just pulling 315 for 10, i decided to press my luck and try 405. Of course, that was a bit too much for me... even with straps. Got 1 good rep, and form turned to shit after that. Being a stupidly stubborn asshole, though, i tried pounding out two more reps. As luck would have it, the third rep tweaked my back a bit... and i think its gonna be screaming at me tomorrow.

Rest of the w/o went pretty well. Strength on the DB rows was about the same. Same with pulldowns. Shrugs were up slightly.

I really need to do something about my grip, though. Im doing plate pinches and wrist curls 2x a week, but it doesnt seem to be helping all that much. Maybe i should just say fuck it and start using straps all the time.



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Old 07-15-2004, 02:58 PM   #106
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thanks for the article Mono!



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Old 07-15-2004, 03:40 PM   #107
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thanks for the article Mono!
no prob

Do you have a journal? Id be interested in seeing what temps you get. If not, could ya just post em in here?



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Old 07-15-2004, 04:58 PM   #108
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Maybe i should just say fuck it and start using straps all the time.
Yes I would continue with your grip work though.

NG's journal is titled 100%



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Old 07-15-2004, 05:05 PM   #109
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I've only taken my temp once. It was 97.4 (kind of low)

Nutritionist (who SEEMS to know his stuff and is training someone competing in the USAs this weekend) said I'm cool if it's over 97 over the next 3 days.

He said he'd ask me to check it here and there after that to see how my metabolism is holding up over the course of the diet.



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Old 07-15-2004, 07:15 PM   #110
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Yeah... well ideally you should get a baseline temp. i.e. take it while youre eating at maintenance or bulking, to see where it normally lies.

But 97.4 seems pretty good. You took that when you woke up, right? I forgot to take mine this morning.



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Old 07-15-2004, 07:16 PM   #111
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Yes I would continue with your grip work though.

NG's journal is titled 100%
Yeah, i guess ill start usin straps... i think ill just start using them when my grip starts to fail, though. That way theyre still getting worked.



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Old 07-15-2004, 08:02 PM   #112
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I popped 40mg of nolva this afternoon, just to see if theres an adverse reaction... as i dont want to find out the day i start PCT. Everything seems fine. I'll probably end up doing 3 weeks of PCT, using nolva with some transdermal 6oxo and 7oxo.



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Old 07-15-2004, 08:03 PM   #113
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Popped, as in pills?



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Old 07-15-2004, 08:04 PM   #114
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Old 07-16-2004, 08:58 AM   #115
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Waking temp this morning was 96.8 F. A bit low according to Lyle's recommendations... and seeing as yesterday was a high carb day, it probably wont get much better than that.

Lower back hurts like a bitch this morning, but luckily its a good pain, not a "my goddamn disks are slipping all over the place" pain.



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Old 07-16-2004, 10:52 AM   #116
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Training for 7/16: Shoulders/Triceps

DB mil
50lbx8
50lbx7
50lbx6
45lbx6.5

Front plate raise
45lbx7.5
45lbx6
35lbx9
35lbx9

Superset
Rear DB raise
20lbx12x10x12

Upright row

90lbx9x6 80lbx6

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JM press
65lbx10
65lbx9.5
65lbx8

Reverse grip BB press
135lbx8
135lbx6
115lbx9.5

Dips
-70lbx10 (- = assisted lbs)
-70lbx10
-70lbx9

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Wow. RI's were 60-90s. Strength was up across the board... beyond just compensation for longer RI's. DB mil's last week went 50lbx8, 45lbx7, 40lbx7. This week it went 50lbx8x7x6. Reverse grip presses moved up quite a bit, too. Went 135lbx5 last week, but did 135lbx8x6 this week. Dips had the biggest move, though. From an 80lb assist for sets of 10 and 8, to a 70lb assist for sets of 10, 10, and 9.

Im definitely starting to believe in this shit. If i can still get my weight to move down next monday, ill be ecstatic.



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Old 07-16-2004, 04:08 PM   #117
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Holy shit, congrats man.

Nice upright rows.



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Old 07-16-2004, 04:13 PM   #118
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