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**Jodi** · 07-16-2004, 11:08 PM

Seeing this is a fast, then there will be no reason what so every to worry about the sugar in the apple juice.

Just, please, don't expect miracles from this. Most of these make claims that are far from the actual truth.

sara · 07-16-2004, 11:18 PM

having the fiber powder 5 times a day every 3 hours with apple juice ~ 6 oz. is still ok?
I asked them if we allowed to have any whey protein, flax oil
they said yes, but it will be washed out right when you drink it..
they said some people would eat regular fast food and still get benfit from the cleansing.. but the more you be strict with the fasting the more benefit you would get.
so if Im starving and have no energy.. I would have something, like banana or apple, pear.. all needs to be organic!

and they recommend veggies juice

**Jodi** · 07-16-2004, 11:21 PM

Why wouldn't it be ok? If you are not eating much then your calories are low. Your body is going to use the sugar in the apple juice for energy and it will not store as fat, I guarantee that.

Are you no longer working with that girl at F&B that think she knows it all? You know, those 2 girls that can only repeat what DP says because they really doesn't know jack, they have no minds of their own and they are just more DP Lemmings.

aggies1ut · 07-16-2004, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jodi

Why wouldn't it be ok? If you are not eating much then your calories are low. Your body is going to use the sugar in the apple juice for energy and it will not store as fat, I guarantee that.

Are you no longer working with that girl at F&B that think she knows it all? You know, those 2 girls that can only repeat what DP says because they really doesn't know jack, they have no minds of their own and they are just more DP Lemmings.

Heh, I know who you are referring too.

sara · 07-16-2004, 11:43 PM

[quote=Jodi]Why wouldn't it be ok? If you are not eating much then your calories are low. Your body is going to use the sugar in the apple juice for energy and it will not store as fat, I guarantee that.

makes alot of sense.. and I would never have thought of it..
I killed myself tonight with trying to have the powder with very little amt. of the apple juice because I was paranoid with the sugar content.. Thank You
my friend and I juice the organic apples instead of actually buying the actual organic unsweetend apple juice.. it's better to make it on our own and know nothing is added

sara · 07-16-2004, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aggies1ut

Heh, I know who you are referring too.

Are you no longer working with that girl at F&B that think she knows it all? You know, those 2 girls that can only repeat what DP says because they really doesn't know jack, they have no minds of their own and they are just more DP Lemmings.

When I asked for help.. and wanting to eat balanced meals, they still made me cut on cheese, milk, organic bread and any preservatives.. but that's not going to be balanced.. I know I'm strict with my carbs or fats, but restricting myself from things that I want to add to my diet , will make me not eating balanced meals and have problems again..
I think I learned enough from DP, Leah for past year or so.. and now I'm ready to work on my own
Reading the same ideas over and over again from different people, "same brain" is tiring one day they say don't count the carbs from veggies and the other day they want me to count the carbs from veggies

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**Jodi** · 07-16-2004, 11:50 PM

Good Girl

I'm glad to see you step out and learn to figure stuff on your own. I'm proud of you.

Their diets are not balance, lifestyle diets IMO. They are punishments. I'm doing what you are now. I'm doing a healthy lifestyle, balanced diet and enjoying, in small quantities, some foods that I typically don't eat like milk and breads which is why I bought those muffins I told you about tonight

**Jodi** · 07-16-2004, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aggies1ut

Heh, I know who you are referring too.

That wasn't too difficult to figure who I was talking about eh?

sara · 07-16-2004, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jodi

Good Girl

I'm glad to see you step out and learn to figure stuff on your own. I'm proud of you.

Their diets are not balance, lifestyle diets IMO. They are punishments. I'm doing what you are now. I'm doing a healthy lifestyle, balanced diet and enjoying, in small quantities, some foods that I typically don't eat like milk and breads which is why I bought those muffins I told you about tonight

Thank you Jodi

but I'm also having problems with knowing how to balance my meals.. fats. protein and carbs
I need to teach myself to not go overboard and eat everything I see

**Jodi** · 07-16-2004, 11:57 PM

It's a learning process but I have faith in you and I know you can do it. Just don't doubt yourself and what you have learned. You've come a long way from the original posts by Oceangurl that I use to want to rip my hair reading

sara · 07-17-2004, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

It's a learning process but I have faith in you and I know you can do it. Just don't doubt yourself and what you have learned. You've come a long way from the original posts by Oceangurl that I use to want to rip my hair reading

You didn't like me first did you?

**Jodi** · 07-17-2004, 12:05 AM

It wasnt' that I didn't like you. I never had a reason to dislike you. You just drove me nuts sometimes

It was just that whatever we tried to explain to you went in one ear and out the other. We got tired of repeating the same things over and over hoping that you would understand so eventually we just had to give up until you were ready to learn and understand why, we as bodybuilders or athletes eat the way we do. Like I said before, you've come a long way and I'm happy that you actually learn some on your own now and want to do things for yourself instead of being told exactly how to do them all the time.

sara · 07-17-2004, 12:11 AM

I appreicate everything and you'r continious help

Do you think you would be able to go and watch the comp in September?

**Jodi** · 07-17-2004, 12:12 AM

You are welcome.

Not sure yet. I don't know when my surgery is yet.

carbchick · 07-17-2004, 03:10 PM

Hi Sara! I'm interested in what you are doing ... are you planning to work out while you are doing this cleanse? will you post with how it is going?
also why did you choose this rather than just plain old colonic irrigation?

(or is that a silly question)

sara · 07-17-2004, 10:55 PM

carbchick- I'm not going to workout during the fasting/cleansing process. because I'm not going to have enough energy to workout and if I worked out I will lose my muscles (if I have any)
I will post starting tomorrow with the fast and how things are going..
the past 3 days were the pre-cleansing I did bad

but tomorrow the fast starts and I will post everything

sara · 07-17-2004, 11:07 PM

I hope this will easily release the toxin that I no longer need in my body and help me to eat clean and not cheat when I'm not supposed to

sara · 07-18-2004, 06:19 PM

7 am- toxin absorber powder + apple juice (fresh organic made)
10 am same
1 pm same
4 pm same
7 pm ___________

I had two sips of herbal tea and 1 piece of gum

sara · 07-18-2004, 09:09 PM

6:00 pm - had to eat I was so sick... sick from the powder (toxin absorber) and the apple juice
3/4 organic banana
Nectarine
3/4 organic apple
Nuts (walnuts, tahini butter, almonds, pistahios)
Organic Broccoli, Green pepper

7:00pm - toxin absorber+apple juice

Before bed: I will have 5 pills DigestiveStimulator

**Jodi** · 07-18-2004, 09:09 PM

Why no protein?

sara · 07-18-2004, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodi

Why no protein?

They don't recommend any dairy, meat, fish
protein will be slowley digested .. but I guess I'm going to stop this cleansing thing tomorrow when I call them, or I might just go along and finish it with eating alittle.. and I can add whey protein with what I'm allowed to eat

sara · 07-18-2004, 09:14 PM

I already missed eating protein

Jenny · 07-18-2004, 11:55 PM

Hey Sara!

That link is naaaa-ha-hasty

Ewwww

How long are you doing this cleansing thing?
I agree with Jodi, you have come a really long way sweetie

I too remember those oceangurl posts

You're a sweetheart Sara

Good luck with the fast!

sara · 07-18-2004, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenny

Hey Sara!

That link is naaaa-ha-hasty

Ewwww

How long are you doing this cleansing thing?
I agree with Jodi, you have come a really long way sweetie

I too remember those oceangurl posts

You're a sweetheart Sara

Good luch with the fast!

Thanks sweetie

I'm going to stop the cleansing
supposed to be 5 days fast with only apple juice to drink with the toxin powder

I can't stand it!! I got sick!!

Jodi- Good Night

sara · 07-19-2004, 11:50 PM

July/19/04

Meal 1 - 2 whole eggs, ½ cup egg whites, ½ cup spinach
Meal 2- 1 scoop whey protein, ½ grape fruit , 1 calcium supplement
Meal 3- 3 oz. chicken breast, 1 tsp olive oil, 2/3 cup green beans
Meal 4- 1 scoop whey protein, ½ tbsp flax oil
Meal 5- 2 oz. chicken breast, 1 tsp olive oil, ½ cup spinach

Had 3 cups Black Tea and 1 Cup Coffee today
Will be adding more supplements tomorrow

* Diet very low in cals today since my body (digestive system) still healing from the toxin obsorber from yesturday

didn't add any sodium to my food at all

07-16-2004, 11:08 PM	#31
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07-16-2004, 11:18 PM	#32
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	having the fiber powder 5 times a day every 3 hours with apple juice ~ 6 oz. is still ok? I asked them if we allowed to have any whey protein, flax oil they said yes, but it will be washed out right when you drink it.. they said some people would eat regular fast food and still get benfit from the cleansing.. but the more you be strict with the fasting the more benefit you would get. so if Im starving and have no energy.. I would have something, like banana or apple, pear.. all needs to be organic! and they recommend veggies juice
	www.metzgerbodies.net www.myspace.com/smbdybldr

07-16-2004, 11:21 PM	#33
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,173 Photos: 1	Why wouldn't it be ok? If you are not eating much then your calories are low. Your body is going to use the sugar in the apple juice for energy and it will not store as fat, I guarantee that. Are you no longer working with that girl at F&B that think she knows it all? You know, those 2 girls that can only repeat what DP says because they really doesn't know jack, they have no minds of their own and they are just more DP Lemmings.
	Essence EFA

07-16-2004, 11:43 PM	#35
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	[quote=Jodi]Why wouldn't it be ok? If you are not eating much then your calories are low. Your body is going to use the sugar in the apple juice for energy and it will not store as fat, I guarantee that. makes alot of sense.. and I would never have thought of it.. I killed myself tonight with trying to have the powder with very little amt. of the apple juice because I was paranoid with the sugar content.. Thank You my friend and I juice the organic apples instead of actually buying the actual organic unsweetend apple juice.. it's better to make it on our own and know nothing is added
	www.metzgerbodies.net www.myspace.com/smbdybldr

07-16-2004, 11:50 PM	#37
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,173 Photos: 1	Good Girl I'm glad to see you step out and learn to figure stuff on your own. I'm proud of you. Their diets are not balance, lifestyle diets IMO. They are punishments. I'm doing what you are now. I'm doing a healthy lifestyle, balanced diet and enjoying, in small quantities, some foods that I typically don't eat like milk and breads which is why I bought those muffins I told you about tonight
	Essence EFA

07-16-2004, 11:57 PM	#40
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,173 Photos: 1	It's a learning process but I have faith in you and I know you can do it. Just don't doubt yourself and what you have learned. You've come a long way from the original posts by Oceangurl that I use to want to rip my hair reading
	Essence EFA

07-17-2004, 12:05 AM	#42
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,173 Photos: 1	It wasnt' that I didn't like you. I never had a reason to dislike you. You just drove me nuts sometimes It was just that whatever we tried to explain to you went in one ear and out the other. We got tired of repeating the same things over and over hoping that you would understand so eventually we just had to give up until you were ready to learn and understand why, we as bodybuilders or athletes eat the way we do. Like I said before, you've come a long way and I'm happy that you actually learn some on your own now and want to do things for yourself instead of being told exactly how to do them all the time.
	Essence EFA

07-17-2004, 12:11 AM	#43
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	I appreicate everything and you'r continious help Do you think you would be able to go and watch the comp in September?
	www.metzgerbodies.net www.myspace.com/smbdybldr

07-17-2004, 12:12 AM	#44
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,173 Photos: 1	You are welcome. Not sure yet. I don't know when my surgery is yet.
	Essence EFA

07-17-2004, 03:10 PM	#45
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	Hi Sara! I'm interested in what you are doing ... are you planning to work out while you are doing this cleanse? will you post with how it is going? also why did you choose this rather than just plain old colonic irrigation? (or is that a silly question)
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395

07-17-2004, 10:55 PM	#46
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	carbchick- I'm not going to workout during the fasting/cleansing process. because I'm not going to have enough energy to workout and if I worked out I will lose my muscles (if I have any) I will post starting tomorrow with the fast and how things are going.. the past 3 days were the pre-cleansing I did bad but tomorrow the fast starts and I will post everything
	www.metzgerbodies.net www.myspace.com/smbdybldr

07-17-2004, 11:07 PM	#47
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	I hope this will easily release the toxin that I no longer need in my body and help me to eat clean and not cheat when I'm not supposed to
	www.metzgerbodies.net www.myspace.com/smbdybldr

07-18-2004, 06:19 PM	#48
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	7 am- toxin absorber powder + apple juice (fresh organic made) 10 am same 1 pm same 4 pm same 7 pm ___________ I had two sips of herbal tea and 1 piece of gum
	www.metzgerbodies.net www.myspace.com/smbdybldr

07-18-2004, 09:09 PM	#49
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	6:00 pm - had to eat I was so sick... sick from the powder (toxin absorber) and the apple juice 3/4 organic banana Nectarine 3/4 organic apple Nuts (walnuts, tahini butter, almonds, pistahios) Organic Broccoli, Green pepper 7:00pm - toxin absorber+apple juice Before bed: I will have 5 pills DigestiveStimulator
	www.metzgerbodies.net www.myspace.com/smbdybldr

07-18-2004, 09:14 PM	#52
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	I already missed eating protein
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07-18-2004, 11:55 PM	#53
Jenny Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 6,728	Hey Sara! That link is naaaa-ha-hasty Ewwww How long are you doing this cleansing thing? I agree with Jodi, you have come a really long way sweetie I too remember those oceangurl posts You're a sweetheart Sara Good luck with the fast! Last edited by Jenny : 07-19-2004 at 12:49 AM.

07-19-2004, 11:50 PM	#55
sara cRaZy!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 6,304 Photos: 2	July/19/04 Meal 1 - 2 whole eggs, ½ cup egg whites, ½ cup spinach Meal 2- 1 scoop whey protein, ½ grape fruit , 1 calcium supplement Meal 3- 3 oz. chicken breast, 1 tsp olive oil, 2/3 cup green beans Meal 4- 1 scoop whey protein, ½ tbsp flax oil Meal 5- 2 oz. chicken breast, 1 tsp olive oil, ½ cup spinach Had 3 cups Black Tea and 1 Cup Coffee today Will be adding more supplements tomorrow * Diet very low in cals today since my body (digestive system) still healing from the toxin obsorber from yesturday didn't add any sodium to my food at all
	www.metzgerbodies.net www.myspace.com/smbdybldr