Carbchick

Monolith · 08-23-2004, 08:26 PM

Sounds like youre havin fun.

So what are you... a chef? A teacher? A student? I see you cooking all this tasty stuff, but it doesnt look like the typical CKD fare.

And re: the smoking... ask your doc for Zyban. It's a happy pill rebadged to use as a stop-smoking aid. For me, it beats effexor.

carbchick · 08-24-2004, 03:39 AM

Yo mono!
yes I am all of the above: I teach english for $$s, and I'm paying college a lot of $$s to learn how to be a chef.
cool tip re the Zyban, thanks. I will ask about it. my doc is lovely but not greatly experienced in the happy pills. he admitted this is the first time he's prescribed Efexor

actually French cooking is pretty CKD friendly as long as you stick with the entrees: lotsa oil and cream. lotsa meat and fish.
of course today there was also the poppyseed orange cake soaked in orange syrup and blueberry compote on the side ... that went in the bin

carbchick · 08-24-2004, 03:52 PM

Tuesday
chest, tris
DB bench w. 30s superset b/w dips 5 sets 8/10, 8/10, 7/10, 6/10
DB incline flyes w.25s/20s superset pullover w. 30db 4 sets 8/10, 15/10, 8/10, 15/10
giant set: tri pressdown 22lb / o'head extension 20db/ machine bench 40lb all to burnout/failure 4 sets

schmard: ran to gym and back, 2 miles. hard on the legs, felt a little sick actually from the lactic buildup.

diet: not good. can't seem to stick to the calorie limits, maybe the running is ramping my appetite, or is it that I don't have willpower to spare at the moment: it's all used up on Not Smoking.
190P 120F 12C

that's at least 50% more cals than I should be getting. ah well

onwards and onwards ...

**Jodi** · 08-24-2004, 04:02 PM

I preferred nicotine patches or gum anyday over Zyban.

carbchick · 08-25-2004, 07:46 PM

Jodi! are you an ex-smoker?

Wednesday
45 min run in the park. AGONY. every step. no carbs for a week, this is how it feels, then. THIS is the fabled depletion cardio. Hell-on-a-stick. no sooner started than I wanted to stop and I kept on wanting to stop and I had to keep going because I knew that if I stopped I wouldn't start again.
finally did stop after the 45 and did some 100m hill sprints, 10 of them. These were surprisingly ok. it appears it's the longer endurance stuff that is hell.

food: no idea of macros. Simply ate carbs and some protein until I felt I'd had enough. carbs were Uncle Toby's Wheaties (Emma these are hi-glycemic yes?) and cornflakes and oh yeah I think there was an apple muffin in there as well. the muzzy feeling went away. Funny thing, I haven't had that tired, can't-concentrate, low carb feeling at all, not all week, until today. the carbs gave me instant brain boost and I was able to get on with the cooking.
today's lesson was ... ridiculous frankly. from 3 taters and 2 carrots, half a dozen eggs, a trout and a couple of ham hocks we produced 'truite paupiettes' with duxelle and beurre blanc; Alsatian choucroute with all the trimmings including bloody leeks tied with itty bitty strings and full on turned potatoes and carrots. I mean, NObody turns carrots any more. Ever. Anywhere, not even in France FF's sake. oh yeah and then an alsatian apple tart, if you please (no thanks) make the pastry, custard, slice the sodding Granny Smiths ... and don't forget the vichy Carrots. I nearly threw in the towel when it came to the vichy carrots. These are glazed in Vichy water (what else?) butter and sugar and when you're 3 mins from service and suddenly remember them, and they have to be cut into flower-shapes too (i'm not kidding) it's time to put your hand in the burner and yell, call an ambulance, get me out of here. all that in 2.5 hours. I felt like I'd been run over by a truck loaded with fattened ducks ready for the fois gras factory. 'take my liver, take it NOW. I have nothing left to give.'
bed at 9pm

Sidenote, and if you are eating, or squeamish about bodily functions, do not read on...
CKD appears to bring my system to a standstill. Not that I have not, you know, Gone, for the past week. But not in any, well, satisfying sense.
and carbs, it seems, release ALL. and I mean, ALL. Since yesterday's carbs, I have been going, and going, and ... going and I'm still going, and frankly I'm stunned, awed and a bit scared at how much crap-storage a body is capable of. I've been carrying All THAT around, for How Long? and it's not as though I've been in discomfort, or aware of being bunged, or anything, but clearly I have been.
it's my journal and I'll be gross if I want to.

**Jodi** · 08-25-2004, 08:25 PM

Yes I am. And it took me forever to kick the habit. I'd stop then start then stop then start

Finally just went ahead and did the patches and gum, sometimes the lozenges too. I was never heavy smoker so I didn't use the 21mg and instead started with the 14mg and if it wasn't enough, I'd have some of the gum. I did the 14mg for 6 weeks before I went to the 7mg and then did the 7mg for another 6 weeks. It worked like a charm.

carbchick · 08-25-2004, 08:53 PM

interesting, thanks for that Jodi.
I'm on the 21mg and tried the gum but it didn't do much to be honest. I was thinking of dropping to the 14mg but the recommendation is to stay on 21mg for 6 weeks. I've just bought another 2 week supply. I really feel like the patches will do it for me. this has come totally out of the blue, I thought I was a committed smoker but I guess I must have wanted to give it up, deep down, somewhere. BUT I'm so wary of getting complacent. The dreaded, 'one won't hurt' syndrome, the moment of weakness that sets you right back at square 1. I'd better take it slow, keep with the 21mg. be a good girl. not try to be a smart arse.

**Emma-Leigh** · 08-25-2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by carbchick

Simply ate carbs and some protein until I felt I'd had enough. carbs were Uncle Toby's Wheaties (Emma these are hi-glycemic yes?) and cornflakes and oh yeah I think there was an apple muffin in there as well.

Well, the cornflakes are about 80 so they are high GI (over 70). The wheaties are a little questionable... Although they are definately likely to be above 55 (they don't have a value as they have not been tested) which would put it into the moderate GI catagory, I am not sure if they would be over 75... (Most wheat based cereals like wheattbix, shredded wheat etc range between about 60 and 75 so they might be).

Not sure about the muffin - would depend on what it was made with, but it was probably not high GI (likely around 50 odd)...

As for your... umm.. problem... have you tried adding psyllium in somewhere? Ground flax may also help...

carbchick · 08-27-2004, 12:51 AM

thnx Emma ... muffin lower GI than wheaties? me likey the wheaties (they have no added sugar). I may go for them again next time ... next time? well yes there will be a next time I suppose. For I am back on the keto diet now. I was a bit worried that having tasted of the carbs, I'd be loathe to get back to the P and F, but no - I'm fine with it.
and hmm yes psyllium. I forgot I used to take that ... and shall resume, pronto.

thursday's gym stuff: Legs
bb squat 110lbs drop 70lbs for 8 sets, x8/10; x8/10; x8/10 ... etc.
db lunge 20lbx12, 25lbx12, 30lbx12
leg press 200lb x8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8
leg ext/leg curl supersets 15/20, 15/20, 15/18

15/20
thigh press innies 3 sets x12, 12, 15
thigh press outies 2 sets x12, 15

schmard: ran 1 mile to gym ... and hobbled 1 mile back. I needed to run, b/c I didn't want to get cold, but the legs were a little, er, reluctant.

hmmm doesn't look much, that workout. On paper anyway. but it sure had me sweating like a mofo from first to last. so sweaty I almost lost me nicotine patch. maybe b/c I was taking v short rests, and just doing a bit of penguin-pacing up and down between sets.

food: 121P 58F 70C Ok so not quite CKD but all carbs were at first meal. Couldn't let the Wheaties go stale.

my oh my I'm a porky little penguin right now. but yanno,

to that. Don't care.

**Emma-Leigh** · 08-27-2004, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by carbchick

thnx Emma ... muffin lower GI than wheaties?

Yup - Apples themselves are pretty low GI so even if you used white flour and sugar in the muffin this would keep the GI lowish. If you then think of all the fat in most muffins (eggs, butter, cream, oil) then the GI gets lower still... So if you THEN go for a semi-healthy muffin (wholemeal flours/brans etc) then the GI will be quiet low.

... But speaking of healthy-muffins you HAVE to try "Nothing Naughty Muffins" by amoreti... they are made from all natural ingredients, no butter/cream etc and are made with healthy stuff like fruit and bran... They sell them all over the place (in the city) and they are SOOOOO GOOD.

Please please please - You HAVE TO try them on your next carb up!! They come in really yummy flavours like - Blueberry and Apple, Pumpkin and Apricot, Apple and Fig, Honey Carrot and walnut and Raspberry!!

Ok... So 'technically' they are not the 'best' CKD food - but you should make an exception for these!!

carbchick · 08-27-2004, 05:11 PM

with a rave review like that how can I not?

(but: 'healthy muffins' surely some oxymoron?) although - I'm not keen on muffins per se, the apple one was just b/c it was handy and I wanted a quick sugar kick. however you've piqued my interest in the the NNMs: where in the City? I'm Suburban Susan remember

Friday
holy schmoly I thought that legs session had hit the spot. Was I ever right. Sore as sore can be - no, sorer even than that. no strenuous activity of any kind today. hobbled to class, taught my 4 hours. lovely lovely studes. we've got a mutual appreciation club going on, it's quite sick making. they told me (unsolicited I promise) that my lessons are very interesting and I'm a good teacher. so i returned the compliment. There, what a warm glow inside

we did some Ockerisms + they were tickled to learn that dunny is a toilet and cobber a friend and if you're crook you're sick.

ach gawd though I hope I'm able to run tomorrow. I'd kind of planned it that way.

food was OK, need to up fats a little and pull back on the P, but: 154P 52F 8C

Monolith · 08-27-2004, 06:35 PM

Hey cool... a chef.

With an english background, you should be pumpin' out the healthy-living cookbooks in no time.

Sux re: the zyban. Im trying to get my dad to quit, and was thinking of suggesting it. The gum doesnt do anything for him, and the last time he used a patch (8-10 years ago now?) it gave him a gigantic bruise. I might just have to tie him to a chair for a couple months.

**Emma-Leigh** · 08-27-2004, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by carbchick

with a rave review like that how can I not?

(but: 'healthy muffins' surely some oxymoron?) although - I'm not keen on muffins per se, the apple one was just b/c it was handy and I wanted a quick sugar kick. however you've piqued my interest in the the NNMs: where in the City? I'm Suburban Susan remember

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Well - now I have probably gone and ruined it.. I have pumped up the muffin's image and you are going to get bitterly disappointed with it...

They are remarkably good - But I LOVE the taste of wholesome, dense, thick-as-a-brick type muffins that are not the least bit cakey... They are very much a 'healthy tasting, not too sweet muffin and are made with bran, fruit, wholegrain flour etc etc and are pretty much as 'healthy' as high carb - low fat muffins get...

( Here is their nutritional breakdown... - just breathe when you hit the line about 'carb content' and remember that it IS your high carb day and that you are ment to eat lost of carbs... http://www.dietclub.com.au/foods/foo...11106&partner= )

Hmmm.. Where can you get them in the city - well:
1. Corner of Liverpool and Elizabeth St at a little cafe called 'Etos'. (annoying as it is only open 7am-3pm working days)
2. Town Hall station at underground entrance to 'Woolies Metro' there is a food place that sells them
3. In the food-court next to the underground entrances to David Jones city (just down from the chinese massage people, opposite the fruit shop) there is a food place that sells them
4. Central station, underground at the Elizabeth St entrance, opposite the newsagent there is a food place that sells them
5. Broadway Shopping Centre, in the food court, there is a sandwich place (just near the kabab place, opposite the water fountain) that sells them

There are more (and I am sure you can probably get them out of the city as well)... but they are the easiest ones I can describe how to get to...

Oh, and if you ever want the BEST caramel cheesecake in sydney - I can tell you how to get that too

Novo · 08-27-2004, 08:19 PM

I'm going to wish I hadn't read this

I have a friend who swears by these, she's in love. Thus far I've resisted their lure ... I fear not for much longer!

Monolith · 08-27-2004, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

(just near the kabab place, opposite the water fountain)

i have absolutely no idea how, but i actually remember eating at that place. Christ... i can barely remember the name of someone i met 5 minutes ago, yet i remember some obscure meal i had ages ago.

Novo · 08-27-2004, 09:40 PM

You are, officially, MENTAL my friend. Live it, love it

carbchick · 08-28-2004, 06:59 PM

Emma thanks for the directions. I'm sure that even I can track down a NNM now.

and if I have difficulty, I shall buzz Mono for explict and detailed directions to the kebab place.
but, wait a sec:
ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-FOUR POINT NINE GRAMS OF CARBOHYDRATES???

-- EACH? [i][u]

do they do a taster pack, one of each flavour?

Saturday
gym stuff: shoulders
bb militaries 38x9; dropsets 38x6/32x4; 38x6/32x3; 38x5/32x4/26x5; 38x4/34x4/26x4;
and so on for 8 sets
Arnies 15lb drop 11lb for 8/15; 8/11; 7/10; 7/9; 7/10; 6.5/9
lateral raise/front raise supersets 11lb drop 6lb for 10/10; 10/8; 10/11; 8/10
db shrugs 40x10; 50x8,7,8,8,7. with some Farmer's Walking each set.
machine military (front-pushing type) one plate x15, 12, 10, 10, 10

shit and damn, had to double drop on the militaries not to let the rep range drop below 10. the last few reps of each set felt like tearing flesh ...

I can only hope that's a good thing.

Schmard: legs weren't happy, but I told them to STFU and we went for a joggette around the park, about 35 mins.

Food: 147P 103F 8C
too many diet jellos. these are not real food + I would rather eat real food, I would. SIX in one day is TOO MANY. I can either cut down or buy some shares in Aeroplane.

carbchick · 08-30-2004, 03:20 PM

Sunday
nada zero zilch for training. Couldn't get going at all.

; pole-axed. Er, where DID the day go?

food: 115P 79F 14C

Monday
Back/bis
Deadlifts 154lb drop 80lb for 8/2; 8/2; 8/4; 8/3; 7/5; 6/4; 6/4;
154lb drop 143lb drop 80lb for 6/4/3;
143lb drop 132lb drop 80lb for 6/3/3;
132lb drop 80lb for 8/2
Chins 3 sets of sawing up and down from the top x5; x5; x4
Lat p.d superset T-bar rows 100x12/44x6; 88x10/44x6; 100x12/22x10; 77x15/22x8; 77x12/22x7; 88x10/22x6
T-bar rows solo 22x6, x6
bi curls 6 sets of various db variations and weights
incline db bi curls 2 sets, 12.5lb drop 11lb x12
bb bi curls 2 sets bar+ 11lb; bar +12lb x8

Schmard: ran to gym and back, 2 miles. I think I've twisted my foot on a tussock. kind of 'gone over' on it. Anyhoo it's sore and complaining. Takes about 10 mins for it to warm up.

back exhaustion: tried to do a db row with a 25 at the end ... and couldn't lift the bloody thing

in my enthusiasm for deads, I rubbed a smashing blister under the callous on one hand. Which made cooking with passionfruit, later on, a lotta fun.

today's menu: petite marmite Henry IV (chicken soup with veggies to you and me); filet steak with herbed crust; passionfruit souffle. Easy peasy.

food: 187P 155F 15C

atherjen · 08-30-2004, 05:18 PM

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petite marmite Henry IV (chicken soup with veggies to you and me); filet steak with herbed crust; passionfruit souffle. Easy peasy.

sounds excellent!
you will have to post lots of gourmet recipes for us! Thats cool that you are becoming a chef!!

Monolith · 08-30-2004, 05:22 PM

Oh man, thats a vomit-worthy number of deads. Nice!

carbchick · 08-31-2004, 03:10 PM

think I done overdid it on the deadlifts. Ffeeeeck, my back is SORE. all OVer sore.
Jen, I couldn't possibly divulge professional secrets - I'm shocked at that you could suggest such a thing!

Tuesday
bit of schmard in the park. 40 mins slow run, with poorly foot giving me gyp, sob, also knees aren't best right now. gawd, what an old crock. I hate it that my body is aging with these niggly little aches and pains. It's me own fault, too. all that road running in my 20s catching up on me. I recked it not, and now I reap the consequences.
anyway I added on 15 mins of power walking b/c it was just so lovely out there I didn't want to leave and start the day. bugger though - what'm I gonna do for cardio this week? I'll be back with the pink weights on the treadmill. Dullsville. Or I could try rowing I guess

food 164P 110F 10C

... and I think the worst lesson at college so far. Absolutely vile dish - no one, but no one would want to know how you cook 'guinea fowl and cabbage pie' ugh ugh ugh. I hated cooking it. I shall never cook it again. Chef said it tasted nice ... I wouldn't know. Mussels in saffron to start, that was OK. And orange souffle: 2 souffles in 2 days = deja vu.
I was knackered and just wanted to get home, get fed and get to bed.

**Jodi** · 08-31-2004, 03:21 PM

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Absolutely vile dish - no one, but no one would want to know how you cook 'guinea fowl and cabbage pie' ugh ugh ugh. I hated cooking it. I shall never cook it again.

No offense but it sounds vile

**Emma-Leigh** · 09-01-2004, 03:33 AM

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187P 155F 15C...

food 164P 110F 10C...

**gasp** What - more than 1200 cals...??!! For two days in a row?!!

Careful now Carbchick - you don't want your body to get used to this 'reasonable calorie' level thing... It might start to function!

Good to see you getting enough calories to give you some energy - Just keep it up!!

carbchick · 09-01-2004, 03:52 AM

blimey Emma, as my mother would say, you're like 'shit off a shovel' (that's a good thing, means you're sharp-eyed and a quick mover. which as we all know, you ARE.

)
yep yep yep. The calories are going up up up. making a determined EFFORT here and i'm grateful it's not going Unnoticed, Unremarked.
hmmm does my body notice? I THINK so. but is it going to store it all as FAT? fatfatfatfatfat???

whutt-evah --- I'm just taking advantage of some uncommon good humour and, well, happiness around self at mo. and thinking bugger it let's see if I CAN build some muscle then.

As I'm tired of fighting the fatfatfatfatfat. I say

to that.

**Emma-Leigh** · 09-01-2004, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by carbchick

blimey Emma, as my mother would say, you're like 'shit off a shovel' (that's a good thing, means you're sharp-eyed and a quick mover. which as we all know, you ARE.

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Umm... I guess that is a thanks?? (although being likened to crap does not usually warrant a thank you

)

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hmmm does my body notice? I THINK so. but is it going to store it all as FAT? fatfatfatfatfat???

Well - 99.5% of incoming fat is immediately stored as fat (even if it is only 'breifly' before it is whisked away for use as an energy source) so storage is a moot point.. Rather, the issue is whether you have an overall calorie deficiency and whether you are in a hormonally/endocrinologically/physiologically receptive state for that deficiency... and I say - Give it time and you will see...

As you have been on such low calorie levels your bodies response will be hard to pick. You could gain a little weight initially or you may start to loose it straight away...

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I'm just taking advantage of some uncommon good humour and, well, happiness around self at mo. and thinking bugger it let's see if I CAN build some muscle then.

Good to see!! Ahhhh, once again we see the magical effects of increasing calories enough so your brain can function!!

Does wonders for your mood (or, you know, it could just be those new happy drugs

)

Anyway a little extra energy will = better workouts which = better growth stimulus!! So it will workout better for muscle growth and this is NEVER a bad thing!!

carbchick · 09-01-2004, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh

Umm... I guess that is a thanks?? (although being likened to crap does not usually warrant a thank you

)

well yes I'm an ignorant cow, badly brought up and badly schooled: so, Thanks, Emma for your interest and concern. I sincerely appreciate it.

08-23-2004, 08:26 PM	#121
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Sounds like youre havin fun. So what are you... a chef? A teacher? A student? I see you cooking all this tasty stuff, but it doesnt look like the typical CKD fare. And re: the smoking... ask your doc for Zyban. It's a happy pill rebadged to use as a stop-smoking aid. For me, it beats effexor.
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08-24-2004, 03:39 AM	#122
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	Yo mono! yes I am all of the above: I teach english for $$s, and I'm paying college a lot of $$s to learn how to be a chef. cool tip re the Zyban, thanks. I will ask about it. my doc is lovely but not greatly experienced in the happy pills. he admitted this is the first time he's prescribed Efexor actually French cooking is pretty CKD friendly as long as you stick with the entrees: lotsa oil and cream. lotsa meat and fish. of course today there was also the poppyseed orange cake soaked in orange syrup and blueberry compote on the side ... that went in the bin
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08-24-2004, 03:52 PM	#123
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	Tuesday chest, tris DB bench w. 30s superset b/w dips 5 sets 8/10, 8/10, 7/10, 6/10 DB incline flyes w.25s/20s superset pullover w. 30db 4 sets 8/10, 15/10, 8/10, 15/10 giant set: tri pressdown 22lb / o'head extension 20db/ machine bench 40lb all to burnout/failure 4 sets schmard: ran to gym and back, 2 miles. hard on the legs, felt a little sick actually from the lactic buildup. diet: not good. can't seem to stick to the calorie limits, maybe the running is ramping my appetite, or is it that I don't have willpower to spare at the moment: it's all used up on Not Smoking. 190P 120F 12C that's at least 50% more cals than I should be getting. ah well onwards and onwards ...
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08-24-2004, 04:02 PM	#124
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	I preferred nicotine patches or gum anyday over Zyban.
	Essence EFA

08-25-2004, 07:46 PM	#125
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	Jodi! are you an ex-smoker? Wednesday 45 min run in the park. AGONY. every step. no carbs for a week, this is how it feels, then. THIS is the fabled depletion cardio. Hell-on-a-stick. no sooner started than I wanted to stop and I kept on wanting to stop and I had to keep going because I knew that if I stopped I wouldn't start again. finally did stop after the 45 and did some 100m hill sprints, 10 of them. These were surprisingly ok. it appears it's the longer endurance stuff that is hell. food: no idea of macros. Simply ate carbs and some protein until I felt I'd had enough. carbs were Uncle Toby's Wheaties (Emma these are hi-glycemic yes?) and cornflakes and oh yeah I think there was an apple muffin in there as well. the muzzy feeling went away. Funny thing, I haven't had that tired, can't-concentrate, low carb feeling at all, not all week, until today. the carbs gave me instant brain boost and I was able to get on with the cooking. today's lesson was ... ridiculous frankly. from 3 taters and 2 carrots, half a dozen eggs, a trout and a couple of ham hocks we produced 'truite paupiettes' with duxelle and beurre blanc; Alsatian choucroute with all the trimmings including bloody leeks tied with itty bitty strings and full on turned potatoes and carrots. I mean, NObody turns carrots any more. Ever. Anywhere, not even in France FF's sake. oh yeah and then an alsatian apple tart, if you please (no thanks) make the pastry, custard, slice the sodding Granny Smiths ... and don't forget the vichy Carrots. I nearly threw in the towel when it came to the vichy carrots. These are glazed in Vichy water (what else?) butter and sugar and when you're 3 mins from service and suddenly remember them, and they have to be cut into flower-shapes too (i'm not kidding) it's time to put your hand in the burner and yell, call an ambulance, get me out of here. all that in 2.5 hours. I felt like I'd been run over by a truck loaded with fattened ducks ready for the fois gras factory. 'take my liver, take it NOW. I have nothing left to give.' bed at 9pm Sidenote, and if you are eating, or squeamish about bodily functions, do not read on... CKD appears to bring my system to a standstill. Not that I have not, you know, Gone, for the past week. But not in any, well, satisfying sense. and carbs, it seems, release ALL. and I mean, ALL. Since yesterday's carbs, I have been going, and going, and ... going and I'm still going, and frankly I'm stunned, awed and a bit scared at how much crap-storage a body is capable of. I've been carrying All THAT around, for How Long? and it's not as though I've been in discomfort, or aware of being bunged, or anything, but clearly I have been. it's my journal and I'll be gross if I want to.
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08-25-2004, 08:25 PM	#126
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Yes I am. And it took me forever to kick the habit. I'd stop then start then stop then start Finally just went ahead and did the patches and gum, sometimes the lozenges too. I was never heavy smoker so I didn't use the 21mg and instead started with the 14mg and if it wasn't enough, I'd have some of the gum. I did the 14mg for 6 weeks before I went to the 7mg and then did the 7mg for another 6 weeks. It worked like a charm.
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08-25-2004, 08:53 PM	#127
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	interesting, thanks for that Jodi. I'm on the 21mg and tried the gum but it didn't do much to be honest. I was thinking of dropping to the 14mg but the recommendation is to stay on 21mg for 6 weeks. I've just bought another 2 week supply. I really feel like the patches will do it for me. this has come totally out of the blue, I thought I was a committed smoker but I guess I must have wanted to give it up, deep down, somewhere. BUT I'm so wary of getting complacent. The dreaded, 'one won't hurt' syndrome, the moment of weakness that sets you right back at square 1. I'd better take it slow, keep with the 21mg. be a good girl. not try to be a smart arse.
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08-27-2004, 12:51 AM	#129
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	thnx Emma ... muffin lower GI than wheaties? me likey the wheaties (they have no added sugar). I may go for them again next time ... next time? well yes there will be a next time I suppose. For I am back on the keto diet now. I was a bit worried that having tasted of the carbs, I'd be loathe to get back to the P and F, but no - I'm fine with it. and hmm yes psyllium. I forgot I used to take that ... and shall resume, pronto. thursday's gym stuff: Legs bb squat 110lbs drop 70lbs for 8 sets, x8/10; x8/10; x8/10 ... etc. db lunge 20lbx12, 25lbx12, 30lbx12 leg press 200lb x8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8 leg ext/leg curl supersets 15/20, 15/20, 15/18 15/20 thigh press innies 3 sets x12, 12, 15 thigh press outies 2 sets x12, 15 schmard: ran 1 mile to gym ... and hobbled 1 mile back. I needed to run, b/c I didn't want to get cold, but the legs were a little, er, reluctant. hmmm doesn't look much, that workout. On paper anyway. but it sure had me sweating like a mofo from first to last. so sweaty I almost lost me nicotine patch. maybe b/c I was taking v short rests, and just doing a bit of penguin-pacing up and down between sets. food: 121P 58F 70C Ok so not quite CKD but all carbs were at first meal. Couldn't let the Wheaties go stale. my oh my I'm a porky little penguin right now. but yanno, to that. Don't care.
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08-27-2004, 05:11 PM	#131
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	with a rave review like that how can I not? (but: 'healthy muffins' surely some oxymoron?) although - I'm not keen on muffins per se, the apple one was just b/c it was handy and I wanted a quick sugar kick. however you've piqued my interest in the the NNMs: where in the City? I'm Suburban Susan remember Friday holy schmoly I thought that legs session had hit the spot. Was I ever right. Sore as sore can be - no, sorer even than that. no strenuous activity of any kind today. hobbled to class, taught my 4 hours. lovely lovely studes. we've got a mutual appreciation club going on, it's quite sick making. they told me (unsolicited I promise) that my lessons are very interesting and I'm a good teacher. so i returned the compliment. There, what a warm glow inside we did some Ockerisms + they were tickled to learn that dunny is a toilet and cobber a friend and if you're crook you're sick. ach gawd though I hope I'm able to run tomorrow. I'd kind of planned it that way. food was OK, need to up fats a little and pull back on the P, but: 154P 52F 8C
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08-27-2004, 06:35 PM	#132
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Hey cool... a chef. With an english background, you should be pumpin' out the healthy-living cookbooks in no time. Sux re: the zyban. Im trying to get my dad to quit, and was thinking of suggesting it. The gum doesnt do anything for him, and the last time he used a patch (8-10 years ago now?) it gave him a gigantic bruise. I might just have to tie him to a chair for a couple months.
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08-27-2004, 08:19 PM	#134
Novo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 220	I'm going to wish I hadn't read this I have a friend who swears by these, she's in love. Thus far I've resisted their lure ... I fear not for much longer!

08-27-2004, 09:40 PM	#136
Novo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 220	You are, officially, MENTAL my friend. Live it, love it

08-28-2004, 06:59 PM	#137
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	Emma thanks for the directions. I'm sure that even I can track down a NNM now. and if I have difficulty, I shall buzz Mono for explict and detailed directions to the kebab place. but, wait a sec: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-FOUR POINT NINE GRAMS OF CARBOHYDRATES??? -- EACH? [i][u] do they do a taster pack, one of each flavour? Saturday gym stuff: shoulders bb militaries 38x9; dropsets 38x6/32x4; 38x6/32x3; 38x5/32x4/26x5; 38x4/34x4/26x4; and so on for 8 sets Arnies 15lb drop 11lb for 8/15; 8/11; 7/10; 7/9; 7/10; 6.5/9 lateral raise/front raise supersets 11lb drop 6lb for 10/10; 10/8; 10/11; 8/10 db shrugs 40x10; 50x8,7,8,8,7. with some Farmer's Walking each set. machine military (front-pushing type) one plate x15, 12, 10, 10, 10 shit and damn, had to double drop on the militaries not to let the rep range drop below 10. the last few reps of each set felt like tearing flesh ... I can only hope that's a good thing. Schmard: legs weren't happy, but I told them to STFU and we went for a joggette around the park, about 35 mins. Food: 147P 103F 8C too many diet jellos. these are not real food + I would rather eat real food, I would. SIX in one day is TOO MANY. I can either cut down or buy some shares in Aeroplane.
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08-30-2004, 03:20 PM	#138
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	Sunday nada zero zilch for training. Couldn't get going at all. ; pole-axed. Er, where DID the day go? food: 115P 79F 14C Monday Back/bis Deadlifts 154lb drop 80lb for 8/2; 8/2; 8/4; 8/3; 7/5; 6/4; 6/4; 154lb drop 143lb drop 80lb for 6/4/3; 143lb drop 132lb drop 80lb for 6/3/3; 132lb drop 80lb for 8/2 Chins 3 sets of sawing up and down from the top x5; x5; x4 Lat p.d superset T-bar rows 100x12/44x6; 88x10/44x6; 100x12/22x10; 77x15/22x8; 77x12/22x7; 88x10/22x6 T-bar rows solo 22x6, x6 bi curls 6 sets of various db variations and weights incline db bi curls 2 sets, 12.5lb drop 11lb x12 bb bi curls 2 sets bar+ 11lb; bar +12lb x8 Schmard: ran to gym and back, 2 miles. I think I've twisted my foot on a tussock. kind of 'gone over' on it. Anyhoo it's sore and complaining. Takes about 10 mins for it to warm up. back exhaustion: tried to do a db row with a 25 at the end ... and couldn't lift the bloody thing in my enthusiasm for deads, I rubbed a smashing blister under the callous on one hand. Which made cooking with passionfruit, later on, a lotta fun. today's menu: petite marmite Henry IV (chicken soup with veggies to you and me); filet steak with herbed crust; passionfruit souffle. Easy peasy. food: 187P 155F 15C
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08-30-2004, 05:22 PM	#140
Monolith OMGWTFBBQ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MA Posts: 4,002	Oh man, thats a vomit-worthy number of deads. Nice!
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08-31-2004, 03:10 PM	#141
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	think I done overdid it on the deadlifts. Ffeeeeck, my back is SORE. all OVer sore. Jen, I couldn't possibly divulge professional secrets - I'm shocked at that you could suggest such a thing! Tuesday bit of schmard in the park. 40 mins slow run, with poorly foot giving me gyp, sob, also knees aren't best right now. gawd, what an old crock. I hate it that my body is aging with these niggly little aches and pains. It's me own fault, too. all that road running in my 20s catching up on me. I recked it not, and now I reap the consequences. anyway I added on 15 mins of power walking b/c it was just so lovely out there I didn't want to leave and start the day. bugger though - what'm I gonna do for cardio this week? I'll be back with the pink weights on the treadmill. Dullsville. Or I could try rowing I guess food 164P 110F 10C ... and I think the worst lesson at college so far. Absolutely vile dish - no one, but no one would want to know how you cook 'guinea fowl and cabbage pie' ugh ugh ugh. I hated cooking it. I shall never cook it again. Chef said it tasted nice ... I wouldn't know. Mussels in saffron to start, that was OK. And orange souffle: 2 souffles in 2 days = deja vu. I was knackered and just wanted to get home, get fed and get to bed.
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09-01-2004, 03:52 AM	#144
carbchick Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 395	blimey Emma, as my mother would say, you're like 'shit off a shovel' (that's a good thing, means you're sharp-eyed and a quick mover. which as we all know, you ARE. ) yep yep yep. The calories are going up up up. making a determined EFFORT here and i'm grateful it's not going Unnoticed, Unremarked. hmmm does my body notice? I THINK so. but is it going to store it all as FAT? fatfatfatfatfat??? whutt-evah --- I'm just taking advantage of some uncommon good humour and, well, happiness around self at mo. and thinking bugger it let's see if I CAN build some muscle then. As I'm tired of fighting the fatfatfatfatfat. I say to that.
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