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Old 09-23-2004, 09:10 PM   #91
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Wbb vs. IM war???

What are you talking about?

Listen, no one at wbb who devised the wbb programs ever said wbb's was the best. That is pure fiction.

It is a solid program as I am sure the one GoPro espouses is as well.
Nope, you didn't get my point Chris....Mike's journal is turning into a pissing contest. I am going by what Mike is saying. He says that he spoke to the folks in WBB and they ripped P/RR/S to threads....Then Gopro comes and defends his...Maybe you are right, not a war, I used the wrong word, but a pissing contest that will get nowhere...


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Old 09-23-2004, 09:11 PM   #92
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why do people keep talking about people getting banned?

who do you any of you know of on this board that got banned?


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Old 09-23-2004, 09:12 PM   #93
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why do people keep talking about people getting banned?

who do you any of you know of on this board that got banned?
Robert, read what I said, I said I have never seen anyone getting banned and used Asspuncture as an example....


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Old 09-23-2004, 09:13 PM   #94
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Nope, you didn't get my point Chris....Mike's journal is turning into a pissing contest. I am going by what Mike is saying. He says that he spoke to the folks in WBB and they ripped P/RR/S to threads....Then Gopro comes and defends his...Maybe you are right, not a war, I used the wrong word, but a pissing contest that will get nowhere...
I just noticed what I wrote, I meant to say P/RR/S vs. Westside war...but again there is no war....I take that back before someone suffers an attack....


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Old 09-23-2004, 09:14 PM   #95
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oh, well I have seen the word "banned" in this thread a few times now.

it is so rare that we ban anyone here, other than the spammers that join and make a bunch of advertising posts and leave.


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who do you any of you know of on this board that got banned?
Didn't Maki at one point??


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oh, well I have seen the word "banned" in this thread a few times now.

it is so rare that we ban anyone here, other than the spammers that join and make a bunch of advertising posts and leave.
I agree 100%
My problem here is that my post was way too long now that I read it again and it becomes tedious to read....Still, after a long winded speech, I still say that Mike should start a new journal. A real journal..


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Yeah I don't think this is a WBB vs. IM thing. I think it is a personal issue between a couple. I'm sure there are good people at WBB just like here.


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Yeah I don't think this is a WBB vs. IM thing. I think it is a personal issue between a couple. I'm sure there are good people at WBB just like here.
Chris and you are right, I made a huge mistake as I was making my long, tedious and long winded post....My bad...


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Didn't Maki at one point??
I do not want to dredge all of that up it was 2 years ago, so lets just leave all of that in the past please.


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Chris and you are right, I made a huge mistake as I was making my long, tedious and long winded post....My bad...
You just have to know the history.................


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You just have to know the history.................
I miswrote. I meant P/RR/S vs. Westside....


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Look, I'll go heads up with anyone on what science says. And I know 99% ofnthe time I'll win. But we need to set the record straight.

Nobody said the routine was bad. We all happened to agree, based not on trainers, but on science that what gopro said was wrong. We NEVER said his routine was bad. But based on the arguments he and I have had here, and the same arguments he had at the forum, we have all generally not gotten along and not agreed.

chris and I do not get along. At all. We have been at each others throats more than once. We disagree on many things. I have been banned from WannaBeBig. I say that only to discredit the chatter that we're all out to get someone.

Despite the animosity here. Despite the fact that chris and I are not exactly friends...

chris is more than fan of bodybuilding or powerlifting. He is a member. I challenge anyone ton find a time wqe disagree on something with regards to training. And please, prove us wrong. Show us another way. I am a big enough man to learn something new, as I'm sure he is.

But this rivalry that "seems" to be building? It has to stop. And it needs to stop now.


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JD, I see where you are coming from, but just take a minute and forget the ph crap. GP has alot of knowledge, and has helped and is still trying to help people. He gets bashed for the simple reason of people not agreeing with him. That happens all the time with alot of different subjects. I've seen these same group of WBB or whoever come on this board for nothing but the sole reason as to discredit GP or just to argue long before you got here. This is not new. Now if I was GP I think I would have got ticked too. And if I would have been him, I would have done the same thing or worse.
Regardless of VPX PH's, Westside vs P/RR/S, IM vs WBB, WBB vs Gopro, etc, etc, my ONLY beef was the fact Gopro uses the 'I'll ban you' card when he gets miffed. This isn't the first time I've seen him do it. It doesn't matter if he actually bans them or not, but the threat. I have never seen Robert, Mudge, Jodi, Atherjen, or yourself, threaten to ban someone just because they didn't agree with you. Now P-funk is a different story (j/k Patrick).
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Damn JD, you beat me to it......I was reading the first few senteces of your post thinking....."oh yeah, JD is so banned by p-funk this time" LOL....


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Oh my I saw 4 pages and was like "wow, Mike has really been working hard". Then I see this...
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I was going to say Good Morning Mike, but I don't even know who's journal this is anymore


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But this rivalry that "seems" to be building? It has to stop. And it needs to stop now.
Well said SF, this is a haven for people who want to improve themselves and to enjoy a different lifestyle. Whatever routine you use, use it and enjoy it. I am enjoying the one I use....

I will not bug you guys with this topic again and whatever I post, I will direct to Mike regarding his progress, whether it's in this journal or another. If I can make a little difference without changing his mind, then I'll be happy....
Mike I really hope that you have not tuned IM out, it's a good place with a lot of good helpful people. I also have a feeling that other boards like WBB or any other out there will probably be the same way too.
I wish you nothing less than the best and continue succeeding, you can do it buddy...


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Look, I'll go heads up with anyone on what science says. And I know 99% ofnthe time I'll win. But we need to set the record straight.

Nobody said the routine was bad. We all happened to agree, based not on trainers, but on science that what gopro said was wrong. We NEVER said his routine was bad. But based on the arguments he and I have had here, and the same arguments he had at the forum, we have all generally not gotten along and not agreed.

chris and I do not get along. At all. We have been at each others throats more than once. We disagree on many things. I have been banned from WannaBeBig. I say that only to discredit the chatter that we're all out to get someone.

Despite the animosity here. Despite the fact that chris and I are not exactly friends...

chris is more than fan of bodybuilding or powerlifting. He is a member. I challenge anyone ton find a time wqe disagree on something with regards to training. And please, prove us wrong. Show us another way. I am a big enough man to learn something new, as I'm sure he is.

But this rivalry that "seems" to be building? It has to stop. And it needs to stop now.
Hey SF, you do know that "Culo" in spanish means "ass", right? You probably do....
I hadn't seen that and almost fell off my chair....


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I am sorry Mike for asking this in your journal.. but...

what is all the controversy about? Isn't it possible that both programs, P/RR/S and westside are great and WORK? I know for a fact GP has never said that Westside doesn't work, he told me himself that it was a great program for strength and powerlifting.
I mean have you guys ever seen GP???? I have, many times and I KNOW for a fact, he is massive. I have also seen early BB pics of him and he is practically twice the size.

I am also a bit biased because GP is my FRIEND and takes his job VERY seriously. He is a brilliant man, humble and hard working. He does not take BBing lightly, it is his life, not his hobby.

Anyway... I think this whole thing is silly. The fact is P/RR/S works! I am sure Westside does as well.


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Look, I'll go heads up with anyone on what science says. And I know 99% ofnthe time I'll win.
That's a pretty ballsy statement don't you think?? It's funny I've never seen your name mentioned in the elite group. So you think you rank right up there with Par, Patrick, Will Brink and such?


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