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Old 10-29-2004, 10:04 AM   #121
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sorry! I ususally always spilt my workouts into 2 on these days, but I usually have a carb before doing the pilates (even though I don't even break a sweat during Pilates....hmm now that I look at it, I don't sweat alot, even during cardio, I feel like I'm gonna pass out soon but I'm never sweating heavily, same for my weights does that mean I'm oding something wrong? ) just I didn't really have any for hte rest of the day, except supper, but I was going to the shit ass dance after supper, so....:
You are NOT supposed to continue exercising if you began to feel dizzy/light headed. You MUST STOP and discontinue and your diet/cals need to be looked into.

In the beginning i would not break a sweat while doing weights as well. Basically i dont sweat easily/too much. Once i got my routine down and began to decrease the rest time in between sets and increase the weights progressively, i really began to feel the intensity and the sweat came pouring down. I was a bit surprised at myself as i never sweated so much in my life before.
So work towards decreasing your time between sets reasonably as discussed earlier and you will see a difference.

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I've know this for a while, that was probably my hmm...I think 3rd or 4th dance I've been to in total, and I hated them all, I thoguht about month ago it was gonna be fun, then as time went on I started to regret my descison to do it, I wanted to back out but I oculdn't..o well it's over with so I'm good
Oh well, at least they enjoyed your costume and your legs got complimented. Now, work on that chest and those arms so that you get compliments on those as well. And dont forget the back. A strong back is required.
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Old 10-29-2004, 04:05 PM   #122
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Believe me, thats another thing with gay guys. Even though they may be skinny, they tend to give their abs an excessive bashing. Doing sooo many crunches that i think one day someone will poop out a kidney during a crunch! And/Or they do insane amounts of cardio. For some baffling reason they cannot see that they have no arms, no chest, no legs and no ass!! but they keep doing cardio to get skinnier... than what?!! beats me.
I tend to like cardio and overtrain my abs, at one point in my life i was doing 1500 crunches a night, that was fun .
I need ot work on getting a chest/ass I have neither, my chest is just fatish. , it needs some more muscle, but I can't seem ot add any there.


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Yep. 3-4 (weighted) exercises once a week should be fine. e.g. You could do 1 each of floor crunches, twist crunches, decline situps. Dont get started on the upper and lower thing . check out this thread : http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...pper+lower+abs (upper abs?)
lol ok, I'll do 3-4 weighted ab exercises once a week for now on, is it alright that I do them right before doing my cardio?
I think I'm gonna stick with Weighted Jack knife (the day afterwards my lower region of my abs hurt, its my best ab exercise i find) , Plate Twists, Side Bends, weighted crunchs on my 6 second ab thing. ( I was advised not ot buy it, but after my incident with the 10lbs weight I decided I should cause it can go up to 50lbs) and maybe some weighted hip raises (never really felt anything from them )
I know that theres no such thing as a ab exercise that targets only your "lower abs" or "upper abs" , there one complete muscle and you'll stimulate them both with any exercise you do, that's why I put the quatation thinies around "lower" and "upper"


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never heard that one before. Never thought that boys were encouraged to do it and that doing it would whittle it down in size. My dad never had 'the talk' with me *thank god!* . I always heard the opposite. Like 'if you do it you will go blind!'
Be thankful you never heard it, it's extremely uncomfortable, espically with someone you callt hemselves your dad after walking out on you when you were 3, and calls you maybe a total of 10 times in a year. Such a great "father" .
do it and be blind!
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Old 10-29-2004, 04:08 PM   #123
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I agree. Methinks if that ellipitical thingy could move when you exercised on it, you would ride it to school everday!!
I wish I could!
I'd probably be able to go there and back and couple of times considering my schools a 5 minute walk away and my elpitical trainer says I got 7.8 miles every session



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If you dont focus on gaining muscle, your next years halloween costume will be only your tighty-whities and you could call yourself 'the dancing skeleton'
I'm not that thin!
my rib cage is starting ot disappear after gaining that 10 punds...I kinda miss it but I know it's for the best..maybe it'll come back after my cut , probably won't though..
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Old 10-29-2004, 04:22 PM   #124
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You are NOT supposed to continue exercising if you began to feel dizzy/light headed. You MUST STOP and discontinue and your diet/cals need to be looked into.
Well I don't get dizzy/light headed, I just kinda feel...burnt out or something
but I'm not sweating as much as what my body feels like (if that makes sense) The worst that happens is that during my cardio my heart starts to hurt really bad, and then I'll stop or take a break.

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In the beginning i would not break a sweat while doing weights as well. Basically i dont sweat easily/too much. Once i got my routine down and began to decrease the rest time in between sets and increase the weights progressively, i really began to feel the intensity and the sweat came pouring down. I was a bit surprised at myself as i never sweated so much in my life before.
So work towards decreasing your time between sets reasonably as discussed earlier and you will see a difference.
Well I still sweat, just not alot...too tell you the truth I cna't remeber ever actually sweating like crazy, I just don't sweat alot , only if I jsut really nervous like during a test or something that I think I'm gonna fail, then I start to sweat
I usally rest for about 45 seconds to a minute and 30 seconds, I don't think thats too long, maybe I'll start sweating alot after I increase my weights a little more


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Oh well, at least they enjoyed your costume and your legs got complimented. Now, work on that chest and those arms so that you get compliments on those as well. And dont forget the back. A strong back is required.
already got complimented on all those too
I don't look like I got alot of muscle but when I flexed my arms in my costume my friend was like holy crap! I never thought you had that much muscle! (espically my shoulders and lats are coming along nicely) and I got complimented on my chest after I squezzed my friends chest a party then she squezzed mine, I told her she had firm breasts and she told me I had noce pecs ( I think she was joking though , it was still funny though )
And I got compliimented on my back when I was getting my body fat % checked, my friend that was helping pull up my shirt said I had a very sexy back , I argued with her for a while that I didn't untill we agreed to disagree
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Old 10-30-2004, 07:59 AM   #125
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October 29

Training- Back/Bi Day
Bent over rows *20lbs* 1x14, *25lbs* 1x12. *30lbs* 2x8
DB pullover *20lbs* 1x14, *25lbs* 1x12, *30lbs* 2x8
Shrugs *65lbs* 1x14 , *75lbs* 1x8, *85lbs* 2x8
BB curl *40 lbs* 1x14, *45lbs* 3x8
Hammer Curls *20lbs* 1x14 , *25lbs* 3x8


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Meal 1 - thin rolled oats , skim milk , pear, whey
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Post workout- Skim milk, oatmeal, banana, whey
Meal 2- brown rice, tuna
Meal 3 - brown rice, chicken, carb coutning torilla wrap, almond butter
Meal 4 - egg whites, canoil oil, fiber 1, walnuts
Meal 5 - sweet potaotes, tuna, carb cputning tortilla wrap
meal 6 - fiber 1, cottage cheese, almond butter

Sorry I didn't post this yesterday I got to lazy, and ended up watching 2 hours worth of six feet under, god I love that show!
But I missed way too much, Imust have missed like 2 seasons or something, the last I remeber, was billy was in the hospital because he tried killing himself or something, and wasa all crazy and tried attacking his sister, o well still understood waht was going on.
I did jack shit yesterday, the only thing I really did was walk out to the mall to drop off a game, thats all then I kinda sat there, and enjoyed relaxation and boredom.
I was happy about my weight training, my strength increase a little again! , the only thing I think I pushed were the Pullovers, they really hurt my left shoulder, but it's doing fine now, so I guess the pain was a good thing, can't complain..except I am , okay I'm jsut gonna stop cause it's the morning and I'm still kinda drozy (spelling? )
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Ahhh crap my weight only went up half a pound again (so I'm 129.5lbs)..I increase my calories by 250 though, so shouldn't I have gained a pound?..unless I lost some water weight from thursday since my carbs were like 100G, O well who knows, I think I might increase my calories by another 250 and see what happens.
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Old 10-30-2004, 10:20 AM   #127
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I tend to like cardio and overtrain my abs, at one point in my life i was doing 1500 crunches a night, that was fun ..
1500 crunches??!! you had better check if you still have your kidneys AND liver in you!!

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I need ot work on getting a chest/ass I have neither, my chest is just fatish. , it needs some more muscle, but I can't seem ot add any there.
Patience, my boy. It will happen in due time.
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lol ok, I'll do 3-4 weighted ab exercises once a week for now on, is it alright that I do them right before doing my cardio?
hmm.. sorry, cant answer that. i have never done cardio and weights on the same day. I avoid cardio as i dont need to expend the excess cals as i prefer to use them to put on weight.

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I think I'm gonna stick with Weighted Jack knife (the day afterwards my lower region of my abs hurt, its my best ab exercise i find) , Plate Twists, Side Bends, weighted crunchs on my 6 second ab thing. ( I was advised not ot buy it, but after my incident with the 10lbs weight I decided I should cause it can go up to 50lbs) and maybe some weighted hip raises (never really felt anything from them )
Cool. It is all about working out what works best for YOU!
So long as you can see results, things are working fine. Just keep at it.
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Old 10-30-2004, 10:24 AM   #128
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my rib cage is starting ot disappear after gaining that 10 punds...I kinda miss it but I know it's for the best..maybe it'll come back after my cut , probably won't though..
Who needs ribs showing when you can show off some great abs. The only place ribs are worth having are on a plate in a restaurant.

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Well I don't get dizzy/light headed, I just kinda feel...burnt out or something
but I'm not sweating as much as what my body feels like (if that makes sense) The worst that happens is that during my cardio my heart starts to hurt really bad, and then I'll stop or take a break.:
That dosent sound good. I would suggest you keep an eye out for it at all times and dont overdo things.

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Well I still sweat, just not alot...too tell you the truth I cna't remeber ever actually sweating like crazy, I just don't sweat alot , only if I jsut really nervous like during a test or something that I think I'm gonna fail, then I start to sweat
I usally rest for about 45 seconds to a minute and 30 seconds, I don't think thats too long, maybe I'll start sweating alot after I increase my weights a little more :
Yes you will sweat a bit more once your sets get more intense. I dont as much anymore as my body has gotten accustomed to my present routine. So things will keep changing.


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already got complimented on all those too
I don't look like I got alot of muscle but when I flexed my arms in my costume my friend was like holy crap! I never thought you had that much muscle! (espically my shoulders and lats are coming along nicely) and I got complimented on my chest after I squezzed my friends chest a party then she squezzed mine, I told her she had firm breasts and she told me I had noce pecs ( I think she was joking though , it was still funny though ):
Compliments are always nice. IMO, friends/family tend to sugar-coat the truth to avoid offending you.
But keep working out.. with weights, i mean. Not squeezing girls brests, naughty boy!!

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And I got compliimented on my back when I was getting my body fat % checked, my friend that was helping pull up my shirt said I had a very sexy back , I argued with her for a while that I didn't untill we agreed to disagree
Dont bother argueing. Just work out that back and get it sooo wide that you can show movies on it.
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Ahhh crap my weight only went up half a pound again (so I'm 129.5lbs)..I increase my calories by 250 though, so shouldn't I have gained a pound?..unless I lost some water weight from thursday since my carbs were like 100G, O well who knows,
I wonder why??? I have a suspision why. But why dont you tell me the reason.
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Training- Back/Bi Day
Bent over rows *20lbs* 1x14, *25lbs* 1x12. *30lbs* 2x8
DB pullover *20lbs* 1x14, *25lbs* 1x12, *30lbs* 2x8
Shrugs *65lbs* 1x14 , *75lbs* 1x8, *85lbs* 2x8
BB curl *40 lbs* 1x14, *45lbs* 3x8
Hammer Curls *20lbs* 1x14 , *25lbs* 3x8
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Meal 1 - thin rolled oats , skim milk , pear, whey
*workout*
Post workout- Skim milk, oatmeal, banana, whey
Meal 2- brown rice, tuna
Meal 3 - brown rice, chicken, carb coutning torilla wrap, almond butter
Meal 4 - egg whites, canoil oil, fiber 1, walnuts
Meal 5 - sweet potaotes, tuna, carb cputning tortilla wrap
meal 6 - fiber 1, cottage cheese, almond butter
Excellent but where are the vegetables??

There is also lots of fibre 1 - Careful you do not overdose on this as it will decrease the absorption of nutrients and calories if you eat too much.

So if you want lots of fibre then the stuff you get from whole grains, legumes, fruits, vegetables and natural brans is better for you...

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Ahhh crap my weight only went up half a pound again (so I'm 129.5lbs)..I increase my calories by 250 though, so shouldn't I have gained a pound?..unless I lost some water weight from thursday since my carbs were like 100G, O well who knows, I think I might increase my calories by another 250 and see what happens.
Increase cals... But take a realistic look back at your past week and see if you were sneaky and did more exercise and ate less too....

You might find the reasons there...

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1500 crunches??!! you had better check if you still have your kidneys AND liver in you!!
they're there, or at least I hope



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hmm.. sorry, cant answer that. i have never done cardio and weights on the same day. I avoid cardio as i dont need to expend the excess cals as i prefer to use them to put on weight.
taunting me that you have an ass are you!
That's the only day I do cardio and weights on the same day, I can't believe I actually did cardio everday of the week for 45 mins as hard as I could go Imagine all the muscle I burnt.


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Cool. It is all about working out what works best for YOU!
So long as you can see results, things are working fine. Just keep at it.
lol that's one of the palcest I want the most results (then again who dosen't ) , I'm already at a low enough bodyfat% to see them, but since they're not there, I guess they're no even there does that even make sense?
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That dosent sound good. I would suggest you keep an eye out for it at all times and dont overdo things.
That's the only thing that really concerns me dutin gmy exercise (it hasn't happened during weights, just cardio.)


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Yes you will sweat a bit more once your sets get more intense. I dont as much anymore as my body has gotten accustomed to my present routine. So things will keep changing.
Well that's good I can't wait till I work up a good sweat!



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Compliments are always nice. IMO, friends/family tend to sugar-coat the truth to avoid offending you.
But keep working out.. with weights, i mean. Not squeezing girls brests, naughty boy!!
I know that's all they were doing, they were sugar coating things.
what can I say her breast was ther in my face, I was tempted


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Dont bother argueing. Just work out that back and get it sooo wide that you can show movies on it.
I hope my back dosen't beome that wide ! I perfer to watch the movies, not have the movies on me
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I wonder why??? I have a suspision why. But why dont you tell me the reason.
Could it be my cardio?
At least I cut it back to 3x a week, and now have a complete rest day, you gotta give me props for that
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Looking good Tom!
Thank you, got you and BulkMeUp to thank!



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Excellent but where are the vegetables??
I haven't had the money to buy them..I miss my salads so much! but I barely have enough money to get my other stuff, I think I'll be able to get them this week though lets hope!

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There is also lots of fibre 1 - Careful you do not overdose on this as it will decrease the absorption of nutrients and calories if you eat too much.

So if you want lots of fibre then the stuff you get from whole grains, legumes, fruits, vegetables and natural brans is better for you...
Currently I have about 1 cup a day, should I reduce that? I'll ask for some extra money, or maybe work an extra day or something so I can afford some new stuff.


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Increase cals... But take a realistic look back at your past week and see if you were sneaky and did more exercise and ate less too....

You might find the reasons there...
nope , actually I've done quite the opposite, I've only ogtten off my ass if I have too, and I've actually been eting extra when measuring my foods. Like when I'm measuring my almond butter when some "accidently" ozzes out I eat that stuff, or any extra left ont he knife etc. and I do this with everything else, cause I know the extra cals will help me grow .


P.S. is it alright if I do my ab day right before doing my cardio? Will that minimize my gains?

Anyways thanks for stopping by Emma , come by more often! i feel like I haven't talked to ya in while!
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October 30

Training- Rest Day

Diet-
Meal 1 - fiber 1,skim milk, whey, oats
Meal 2- sweet potatoes, butter, whey
Meal 3 - tuna carb coutning wrap, brown rice
Meal 4 - egg whites tuna, canoil oil, brown rice
Meal 5 - chicken,carb counting wrap, brown rice
meal 6 - walnuts, almond butter
meal 7- fiber 1, cottage cheese, almond butter

Lol I was jsut too lazy to post this yesterday, i needed some sleep nothing really happened except I tried this weird thing with my hair, using conditioner with my hair after its a little bit damp and wrqaping it in a twoel for 20 minutes, it's suppos to prevent your hair from frying out (since I use a hair dryer everyday) , needless to say my hair was fucked, and was iwnged out more than I wanted it to be *sigh* o well
And then I also worked and watched mad tv but thats it
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taunting me that you have an ass are you! :
Well, hey. Like they say, 'if ya got it, flaunt it!'

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lol that's one of the palcest I want the most results (then again who dosen't ) , I'm already at a low enough bodyfat% to see them, but since they're not there, I guess they're no even there does that even make sense?
Makes sense. Just keep and they will show up in time.
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Well, hey. Like they say, 'if ya got it, flaunt it!'


Makes sense. Just keep and they will show up in time.
okay
I knew the actual thing made sense jsut not sure if people would understand, I have an "interesting" way of wording things some times

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[quote=Tom_B]Training- Leg day
5 minutes of slow cardio on my eliptical trainer
Squats - *95lbs* 3x10, 1x8
Lunges - *75lbs* 1x8 *85lbs* 3x8
SLDL- *85lbs* 1x8, *95lbs* 3x8

Leg extension *45lbs (as much as I can get on my bench..)* 4x15
Lying Leg Curl *50lbs (as much as I can get on my bench..)* 4x15
Calf raises - *75lbs* 1x12 *85lbs* 3x8

*The reason I can fit 5 lbs more on my bench for the lying leg curls is because if I use the 25lbs plates for the leg extensions my I can't really do proper form since the weights are larger*


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Meal 1 - Whey, pear, skim milk, thin rolled oats
*Weights*
Post workout - banana, thin rolled oats, cinnamon, whey, skim milk
Meal 2 - sweet potatoes, tuna, fiber 1, ultra low fat miricle whip, butter
Meal 3 - egg whites, walnuts, fiber 1, canoil oil, brown rice
Meal 4 - carb counnting tortilla wrap, almond butter, chicken, brown rice
Meal 5- carb counnting tortilla wrap, almond butter, tuna, brown rice
Meal 6 - cottage cheese, almond butter, fiber1


Ok don't got alot of time since tot ell you guys about yesterday, cause I gotta do my cardio and I'm running really really late.
I was happy strength went up on a couple of exercises, but my god it hurt, hurt so much . Still does, espically my ass and lower back schools gonna be funny, considering it takes my a while to sit down
Anyways nothing happened all day, sat around, then went to work which was crazy insane busy, fun . So I get home and we have no candy or anything and I'm the only one home so i have to go downstairs and shut all the doors so noone can see the lights on downstairs, i was watching Ringu , and nearly half asleep when my friend called wanting to know if I was ready to go out (I was suppos to call her after I got home from work, but I didn't want to go out I was so tired , but I felt obligated to do it) so me dressed up as a witch nun , running on little sleep, and gulping down caffine before leaving ht ehouse is not a good combo , I was so hyper, I'm sure I scard a couple of kids, not to metnion some peoplemust have thought I was stoned or soemthing it was great, but then as the night was ending I reality that I'm extremly tired and sore sunk in, so we went back home, and I gave all my candy away to Diane. So that was my day, I can't wait for school today (if I ever get there, here I am late and typing on my journal ) I wonder how many comments I'm gonna get from my costume at the dance, no tot mention I can't wait to hear what the prepy whores have to say to me and Diane (long story, basically Diane's going out with someone, one of them likes so now she's gotten the enitre sloth of whores after us, its quite funny )
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