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**CowPimp** · 11-17-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

Do you normally have that many (5 scoops) of protein or are you trying something new?

I often do, yes. It just makes it quicker and easier to get my daily protein needs. I like milk and egg protein supplements because the proteins have a longer half-life than whey.

BulkMeUp · 11-17-2004, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

I often do, yes. It just makes it quicker and easier to get my daily protein needs.

So i guess you are doing it for simplicity's sake. I was always advised to try and stick to whole food as far as possible. But when on a bulk i feel like a walking stuffed pig!
If you had the opportunity to have whole food, would you eat it or do you prefer to stick with the powder?

**CowPimp** · 11-17-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

So i guess you are doing it for simplicity's sake. I was always advised to try and stick to whole food as far as possible. But when on a bulk i feel like a walking stuffed pig!
If you had the opportunity to have whole food, would you eat it or do you prefer to stick with the powder?

As you can see, most of my protein comes from whole foods. I advocate eating mostly whole foods too. However, time and money constraints sometimes forces me to use powders.

**P-funk** · 11-17-2004, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

As you can see, most of my protein comes from whole foods. I advocate eating mostly whole foods too. However, time and money constraints sometimes forces me to use powders.

Also, if you are bulking and have a fast metabolism (like myself), requiring high amounts of cals, it is damn near impossible to get all that in whole foods. Some shakes are needed to meet your caloric intake.

BulkMeUp · 11-17-2004, 01:55 PM

Thanks guys. I think i shall throw in an extra shake on my next bulk.

**P-funk** · 11-17-2004, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

Thanks guys. I think i shall throw in an extra shake on my next bulk.

yep, add some shakes and throw some extra shit in the toilet. oh, and gain some size while your at it.

BulkMeUp · 11-17-2004, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

yep, add some shakes and throw some extra shit in the toilet.

ooooooh lord! my pooper got tired from all that pooping when i was on a bulk. Not to mention tha gas! At one time it was sooo bad... bad enough to make the paint peel off the wall!! However, A change of protein powder brands did improve things.

**CowPimp** · 11-17-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

Also, if you are bulking and have a fast metabolism (like myself), requiring high amounts of cals, it is damn near impossible to get all that in whole foods. Some shakes are needed to meet your caloric intake.

Yup. I eat about 3.7-4K a day, and that is on a super lean bulk. I'm not even actually sure I'm still gaining mass. I'm training for strength right now, so I'm not too worried about it. Occasionally I won't quite hit that range, but usually I do.

I was eating more like 5K a while back on a see-food diet. I didn't realize I was eating so much until I actually looked at serving sizes and such more carefully. A serving size of peanut butter used to be 1/3 of the container; I am not exaggerating.

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

ooooooh lord! my pooper got tired from all that pooping when i was on a bulk. Not to mention tha gas! At one time it was sooo bad... bad enough to make the paint peel off the wall!! However, A change of protein powder brands did improve things.

Yeah, it's surprising how a change in brands can make a difference. I buy Allthewhey powder now; it's cheap, tastes better, mixes better, and doesn't give me as much gas. I used to get some random crap from Vitamin World. It wasn't pretty...

Randy · 11-17-2004, 03:05 PM

The worst has to be the eggs and brocolli......wow!!!!
There was a time I was eating like 10-12 eggs in the morning and loading up on broccolli at night... Hell!!! my dog wouldn't even sleep with me then

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

ooooooh lord! my pooper got tired from all that pooping when i was on a bulk. Not to mention tha gas! At one time it was sooo bad... bad enough to make the paint peel off the wall!! However, A change of protein powder brands did improve things.

Randy · 11-17-2004, 03:08 PM

I don't like the protein powder that much myself. I've been trying lately to get my protein naturally, even by just drinking milk alone. One big glass gives me 20 grams right there. I usually will drink one before working out with creatine, then drink another after post -workout with creatine. And then I eat lots of chicken. It's pretty cheap at Costco along with their eggs.. Christ, I haven't seen eggs as cheap as they've been for a long time. I get 5 dozen eggs for 3.00 at Costco. And it has been this way for at least 3 months or so.

BulkMeUp · 11-17-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

Yup. I eat about 3.7-4K a day, and that is on a super lean bulk. ..

I was doing a clean bulk on 2800 cals and was stuffed! Must have been the two cups of oats per day. My next bulk is definately going to be more on the isocaloric scale.

BulkMeUp · 11-17-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy

I get 5 dozen eggs for 3.00 at Costco. And it has been this way for at least 3 months or so.

Damn! one of the disadvantages of living downtown as well as not driving is the inability to get to these kinda stores. Most of these big box stores are wayyy out in the boonies. Taking public transportation and hauling back a case of anything will not be fun.

For $3.00 i can only get 1 dozen brown eggs.

Randy · 11-17-2004, 06:40 PM

Bulk,

Maybe you can put your order in with a friendly neighbor who shops there

Good thing my stores are close as most all of my neighbors are pricks.

**CowPimp** · 11-17-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy

I don't like the protein powder that much myself. I've been trying lately to get my protein naturally, even by just drinking milk alone. One big glass gives me 20 grams right there. I usually will drink one before working out with creatine, then drink another after post -workout with creatine. And then I eat lots of chicken. It's pretty cheap at Costco along with their eggs.. Christ, I haven't seen eggs as cheap as they've been for a long time. I get 5 dozen eggs for 3.00 at Costco. And it has been this way for at least 3 months or so.

I have a friend who just can't ingest protein powder. For some reason, it kills his appetite. Some people just can't take it. I don't necessarily enjoy it, but it is a quick and easy way to help me get more protein in my diet. That's a good deal on eggs though. Egg whites are an excellent substitute post workout just so you know. They also contain a relatively fast absorbing protein.

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Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

I was doing a clean bulk on 2800 cals and was stuffed! Must have been the two cups of oats per day. My next bulk is definately going to be more on the isocaloric scale.

How much do you weigh? Next time I cut, I am going to be eating about 2800 calories. I ate 2300-2400 calories last time and I lost weight a little too quickly.

Randy · 11-17-2004, 07:39 PM

That's to bad about your friend. I know that the powder is great for filling those protein voids. Some of the stuff tastes awful though. Maybe your friend just had a few bad brands of poor quality.

As for eggs...I like em too. Especially when they've been as cheap as they are lately.

I've never tried to count calories and stuff.. That sounds like a pain in the rear.
I've always lived by the see food diet

But I would like to learn how to count calories and go on somewhat of a cutting diet myself.

**CowPimp** · 11-17-2004, 10:35 PM

Randy
I'm not really sure what the deal is, but he is accomplishing goals without them.

I never used to count calories either. I have found that it makes more of a difference than I thought. It is a little bit of a pain in the butt. It is worth it to me though.

Bench Press ME:

Bench Press
115 x 3
135 x 3
155 x 3
175 x 3
195 x 1
215 x 1
245 x 1
255 x Miss

Bent Rows @ 90
175 x 6
175 x 6
175 x 6

Wide TBar Rows @ 90
180 x 3
135 x 8
135 x 8
135 x 8

CG Bench Press
195 x 4
195 x 4
195 x 4

Upright Rows
115 x 6
115 x 6
115 x 6

Ah, another PR. So wonderful. 245 went up nice and easy. My spotter even made a comment about how it seemed too easy. 255 stopped dead a few inches off my chest. I rearranged my workout accordingly to hit my lats better. Accessory work all looked good. The only issue was the weight I chose was slightly more difficult than I anticipated with the tbar rows. I have never done them before, so I just totally guessed.

Meal1
4 egg whites, 1 egg, 1/2 cup flax cereal, 1/2 cup 2% milk, 8oz apple juice, 20G brewer's yeast, multivitamin/mineral, vitamin C

Meal2 - PWO
2 scoops whey protein, 1 cup oats

Meal3
2 scoops milk protein, 2 TBSP PB, 2 slices WW bread

Meal4
trioplex bar

Meal5
broiled teriyaki chicken, seitan dish, shells & cheese, brussel sprout dish

Meal6
365 chicken enchilada, tin sardines, potato pancake, glass milk, cucumber

Meal7
1 cup 2% cottage cheese, 2 TBSP PB

Some decent cheats today. First, I hit up the food bar at Whole Foods when I went grocery shopping. Brussel sprouts when cheating, my mother would be so proud. The potato pancake was a homemade affair. That was good stuff. More cheating to come tomorrow...

DeadBolt · 11-18-2004, 12:00 AM

Congrats on the PR CP!!

Protein powder is so easy to help fill those voids and extra cals you need. Much cheaper then whole foods as well, I may replace one of my meals with another shake just for cost sakes LOL. And Randy yea some people just can't tak powders...their stomachs just don't accept it. That must suck!

Randy · 11-18-2004, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

Some decent cheats today. First, I hit up the food bar at Whole Foods when I went grocery shopping. Brussel sprouts when cheating, my mother would be so proud. The potato pancake was a homemade affair. That was good stuff. More cheating to come tomorrow...

One thing I would like to say Cow is that your cheating sucks

You want me to give you some good lessons on cheating?

Randy · 11-18-2004, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DeadBolt

Randy yea some people just can't tak powders...their stomachs just don't accept it. That must suck!

Well I suppose there could be worse things in a persons life

Look at me, I'm allergic to citric acid...I have to skip all the good things in life like pineapple, oranges, grapefruits, and especially one of my favorites when I was a kid "Pink Lemonade"

I think that is far worse than not being able to consume protein powder. Well, we all adjust though. Lately for me as far as protein powder goes, I've been skipping it. In its place, I've just been drinking lots of milk (10grams a cup goes a long ways). Who need protein powder

But I know it is more fattening. That's the only downside.

DeadBolt · 11-18-2004, 08:50 AM

Yea milk is fine but the amount of sugars in each cup just kills me. I need to find a new protein powder...I've tried several and currently am finishing my nectar

and my opt. nutr. but I'm tired of that stuff. Gonna try a few different ones soon.

BulkMeUp · 11-18-2004, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Randy

Maybe you can put your order in with a friendly neighbor who shops there

Good thing my stores are close as most all of my neighbors are pricks.

I live in a downtown apartment building. Not likely any neighbours go to costco.

BulkMeUp · 11-18-2004, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

How much do you weigh? Next time I cut, I am going to be eating about 2800 calories. I ate 2300-2400 calories last time and I lost weight a little too quickly.

I got a looong way to go to before i get anywhere near to your size.

I started bulking when i was ~155 (height 6'). So i was eating 18x my bodyweight. I peaked at 176 end aug.
Am presently cutting on ~1900 cals. Loosing about 1.5/week. waist down from 37" to ~34". So far so good, it seems.

**CowPimp** · 11-18-2004, 10:16 AM

Randy
I eat what I want when I cheat. However, what I want is something reasonably healthy. Of course, I do like a nice steak now and again. I think I might have a burger today or something like that.

That's too bad about cirtic acid. No oranges! That sucks!

DeadBolt
Actually, the sugar in milk is relatively low GI. However, it does raise you insulin levels. I think milk is an awesome bulking food. As well, I think it can work on a cut if used sparingly. I drank about a cup a day while I was cutting.

BulkMeUp
You'll get there. I was about 160 @ 6'0" before I started lifting again.

11-17-2004, 03:08 PM	#160
Randy Woof! Woof! Woof! Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 7,859 Photos: 4	I don't like the protein powder that much myself. I've been trying lately to get my protein naturally, even by just drinking milk alone. One big glass gives me 20 grams right there. I usually will drink one before working out with creatine, then drink another after post -workout with creatine. And then I eat lots of chicken. It's pretty cheap at Costco along with their eggs.. Christ, I haven't seen eggs as cheap as they've been for a long time. I get 5 dozen eggs for 3.00 at Costco. And it has been this way for at least 3 months or so.
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11-17-2004, 06:40 PM	#163
Randy Woof! Woof! Woof! Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 7,859 Photos: 4	Bulk, Maybe you can put your order in with a friendly neighbor who shops there Good thing my stores are close as most all of my neighbors are pricks.
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11-17-2004, 07:39 PM	#165
Randy Woof! Woof! Woof! Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 7,859 Photos: 4	That's to bad about your friend. I know that the powder is great for filling those protein voids. Some of the stuff tastes awful though. Maybe your friend just had a few bad brands of poor quality. As for eggs...I like em too. Especially when they've been as cheap as they are lately. I've never tried to count calories and stuff.. That sounds like a pain in the rear. I've always lived by the see food diet But I would like to learn how to count calories and go on somewhat of a cutting diet myself.
	- O F F I C I A L . L I N K . M A S T E R - Maintains a Reference to all Gopros P/RR/S Links Gopros latest routines: CLICK HERE Lift like a Chicken Look Like a Chicken

11-17-2004, 10:35 PM	#166
CowPimp Fueled by Testosterone Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 15,428	Randy I'm not really sure what the deal is, but he is accomplishing goals without them. I never used to count calories either. I have found that it makes more of a difference than I thought. It is a little bit of a pain in the butt. It is worth it to me though. Bench Press ME: Bench Press 115 x 3 135 x 3 155 x 3 175 x 3 195 x 1 215 x 1 245 x 1 255 x Miss Bent Rows @ 90 175 x 6 175 x 6 175 x 6 Wide TBar Rows @ 90 180 x 3 135 x 8 135 x 8 135 x 8 CG Bench Press 195 x 4 195 x 4 195 x 4 Upright Rows 115 x 6 115 x 6 115 x 6 Ah, another PR. So wonderful. 245 went up nice and easy. My spotter even made a comment about how it seemed too easy. 255 stopped dead a few inches off my chest. I rearranged my workout accordingly to hit my lats better. Accessory work all looked good. The only issue was the weight I chose was slightly more difficult than I anticipated with the tbar rows. I have never done them before, so I just totally guessed. Meal1 4 egg whites, 1 egg, 1/2 cup flax cereal, 1/2 cup 2% milk, 8oz apple juice, 20G brewer's yeast, multivitamin/mineral, vitamin C Meal2 - PWO 2 scoops whey protein, 1 cup oats Meal3 2 scoops milk protein, 2 TBSP PB, 2 slices WW bread Meal4 trioplex bar Meal5 broiled teriyaki chicken, seitan dish, shells & cheese, brussel sprout dish Meal6 365 chicken enchilada, tin sardines, potato pancake, glass milk, cucumber Meal7 1 cup 2% cottage cheese, 2 TBSP PB Some decent cheats today. First, I hit up the food bar at Whole Foods when I went grocery shopping. Brussel sprouts when cheating, my mother would be so proud. The potato pancake was a homemade affair. That was good stuff. More cheating to come tomorrow...
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11-18-2004, 12:00 AM	#167
DeadBolt MP Minister of Pain! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ocean County NJ Posts: 7,342	Congrats on the PR CP!! Protein powder is so easy to help fill those voids and extra cals you need. Much cheaper then whole foods as well, I may replace one of my meals with another shake just for cost sakes LOL. And Randy yea some people just can't tak powders...their stomachs just don't accept it. That must suck!
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11-17-2004, 01:55 PM	#155
BulkMeUp ..is bulking up! Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Cana-dah Posts: 5,317	Thanks guys. I think i shall throw in an extra shake on my next bulk.

11-18-2004, 08:50 AM	#170
DeadBolt MP Minister of Pain! Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ocean County NJ Posts: 7,342	Yea milk is fine but the amount of sugars in each cup just kills me. I need to find a new protein powder...I've tried several and currently am finishing my nectar and my opt. nutr. but I'm tired of that stuff. Gonna try a few different ones soon.
	"Only in dictionaries does SUCCESS come before WORK." -Alfred K. Henderson ´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><((((((º>

11-18-2004, 10:16 AM	#173
CowPimp Fueled by Testosterone Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 15,428	Randy I eat what I want when I cheat. However, what I want is something reasonably healthy. Of course, I do like a nice steak now and again. I think I might have a burger today or something like that. That's too bad about cirtic acid. No oranges! That sucks! DeadBolt Actually, the sugar in milk is relatively low GI. However, it does raise you insulin levels. I think milk is an awesome bulking food. As well, I think it can work on a cut if used sparingly. I drank about a cup a day while I was cutting. BulkMeUp You'll get there. I was about 160 @ 6'0" before I started lifting again.
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