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Old 11-25-2004, 02:01 AM   #241
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Meal1
4 egg whites, 1 egg, 1/2 cup flax cereal, 1/2 cup 2% milk, 8oz apple juice, 20G brewer's yeast, multivitamin/mineral, vitamin C

Meal2 - PWO
2 scoops whey protein, 1 cup oats

Meal3
trioplex bar

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2 scoops milk protein, 2 TBSP PB, 2 slices WW bread, cucumber

Meal5
3 meat balls in sauce, turkey in sauce, mashed potatoes, green beans

Meal6
can tuna, 2oz chicken breast, 2 TBSP safflower mayo, 1 1/2 WW pita, celery

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1 cup 2% cottage cheese, 2 TBSP PB

Meal 5 was good stuff. I never get to have sauce on my daily eats, so this was nice stuff. I made sure to include some veggies too. Tomorrow, the gloves really come off.



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Old 11-25-2004, 09:30 AM   #242
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Old 11-25-2004, 01:47 PM   #243
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I bought a whole barrel of Creatine for 13.00 Bulk...
Your grandmother's TV must not be worth much


Where's Cow at.... He must be calculating his protein requirements ..
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I bought a whole barrel of Creatine for 13.00 Bulk...
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Where's Cow at.... He must be calculating his protein requirements ..
... Just teasin ya cow.
I enjoy some good natured ripping just as much as the next man.



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Old 11-25-2004, 02:12 PM   #245
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Happy Thankgiving Cow... Today is the day to cheat..
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Dang! You get some good deals, dealmaster!
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Old 11-26-2004, 02:41 AM   #249
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Squat/DL DE:

Cleans
135 x 2
145 x 2
155 x 2
165 x 2
165 x 2
165 x 2
165 x 2
165 x 2

Platform SLDLs
225 x 7
225 x 7
225 x 7

Decline Situps
65 x 8
65 x 8
65 x 8

Romanian Deadlifts
225 x 5
225 x 5
225 x 5

Seated Calf Raises
145 x 12
145 x 12
145 x 12

A nice workout today. Cleans were great. I'm already experiencing soreness in my traps. I really worked on shrugging that bar up to help keep me moving quick. I did them when I first started lifting, but it has been a while. I will definitely be incorporating this movement into DE day more from now on. I may even try snatches at some point.

Everything else looked good too. My weight was low enough on the deadlift variations that I was able to do a couple of sets with a double pronated grip for a little extra grip work. Romanian deadlifts were fairly slow compared to the rest of my lifts. I find it quite a bit harder to bend so the bar has some distance from you. I started to try pull-throughs, but dropped them for decline situps because I don't like cables bossing around my balls.

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Meal4 - TG
turkey, gravy, mashed potatoes, sweet potato biscuits, stuffing, green bean casserole, cranberry sauce

Meal5
tin kippers, turkey, sweet potato biscuit, green bean casserole

Snack
glass milk, 1 scoop whey

Meal7
1 cup 2% cottage cheese, green bean casserole

Mmm, green bean casserole. I love this stuff! I ate so much food today, it's almost ridiculous. I would say I ate at least 6000 calories today, minimum. At meal 4, I ate two 12" diameter plates packed tightly with food. Subsequent meals yielded smaller portions, but I ate a shitload to say the least. I worked out yesterday and today, so my body will make good use of these calories.



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Old 11-26-2004, 06:22 AM   #250
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A nice workout today. Cleans were great. I'm already experiencing soreness in my traps. I really worked on shrugging that bar up to help keep me moving quick. I did them when I first started lifting, but it has been a while. I will definitely be incorporating this movement into DE day more from now on. I may even try snatches at some point.
Clean look good. make sure you are dropping under the bar to catch it and not just shrugggin and reverse curilg. Snatch is tough. After your cleans, start throwing in a few sets of light high pulls (snatch) from the hang position, trying to work on pulling that high. then on a seperate day (or maybe the same day if you have time) you may want to do some light overead squats (snatch squats). just to work form a bit.



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Clean look good. make sure you are dropping under the bar to catch it and not just shrugggin and reverse curilg. Snatch is tough. After your cleans, start throwing in a few sets of light high pulls (snatch) from the hang position, trying to work on pulling that high. then on a seperate day (or maybe the same day if you have time) you may want to do some light overead squats (snatch squats). just to work form a bit.
I was kind of reverse curling, unfortunately. I never realized you were supposed to drop real low and squat back up after the inital toss. I just checked out ExRx though.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...anAndJerk.html

I'll work on that next time. I'm definitely going to try that for a DE lift again in the near future. I'm going back to box squats next time, but the following time I will give them a go again.



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My diet was standard up until the last meal. I ate some Thanksgiving leftovers at a friends house, and I drank one beer. Nothing too crazy: some beef stew, Latin stuffing, and a little potato salad. All portions were fairly small. I don't feel like posting a full meal layout. I already stayed out a little too late and will have to catch up on some sleep during my break at work.



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Old 11-27-2004, 02:17 AM   #253
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I'm still deadlifting 135... Hoping to catch Cow soon
Today I did 3 sets of 10 though... form is improving and feeling more comfortable.
I will be adding weight in another week or two.

Oh, and I had a couple beers on Thankgiving too.
But have upheld a pretty tight diet so far after.




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I was kind of reverse curling, unfortunately. I never realized you were supposed to drop real low and squat back up after the inital toss. I just checked out ExRx though.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...anAndJerk.html

I'll work on that next time. I'm definitely going to try that for a DE lift again in the near future. I'm going back to box squats next time, but the following time I will give them a go again.


yes and no. I mean, the guy in the video is doing that to show form. And if you really wanted to work on the form that is what you would have to do but that clip is pretty exagerated. I mean, the weight is so light, he is basically throwing it up. When the weight is that light I don't drop all the way down into the hole like that (unless I am purposly working on form) because I am going for speed. So, I drop as far as I need to ujst to get under the bar and squat it up. I mean, the reason that guys drop that low is becasue fuck!! You can only shrug 500lbs so high (LOL). I mean, they explosivley pull it off the floo and may only shrug it up to about their waste before they have to drive their hips forward adn drop underneath the bar. If the weight you are using is very heavy (close to a 1RM) you will have to diip that low. If not, then you can do some reps like that to work on form and prepare for heavier loads and do some reps where you are only dropping enough to get under it, to work on foot speed (like football players do).



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yes and no. I mean, the guy in the video is doing that to show form. And if you really wanted to work on the form that is what you would have to do but that clip is pretty exagerated. I mean, the weight is so light, he is basically throwing it up. When the weight is that light I don't drop all the way down into the hole like that (unless I am purposly working on form) because I am going for speed. So, I drop as far as I need to ujst to get under the bar and squat it up. I mean, the reason that guys drop that low is becasue fuck!! You can only shrug 500lbs so high (LOL). I mean, they explosivley pull it off the floo and may only shrug it up to about their waste before they have to drive their hips forward adn drop underneath the bar. If the weight you are using is very heavy (close to a 1RM) you will have to diip that low. If not, then you can do some reps like that to work on form and prepare for heavier loads and do some reps where you are only dropping enough to get under it, to work on foot speed (like football players do).
Ah, I gotcha. Well, I use weight low enough so that I can shrug the bar up to the point where I don't even have to drop under it. However, I do not curl the bar up. The force I exert on the bar is enough so that I merely have to snap my arms into place very quickly before the bar reaches it's peak.



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I'm still deadlifting 135... Hoping to catch Cow soon
Today I did 3 sets of 10 though... form is improving and feeling more comfortable.
I will be adding weight in another week or two.

Oh, and I had a couple beers on Thankgiving too.
But have upheld a pretty tight diet so far after.
Your deadlifts will explode in strength, I assure you. I started with 135 ages ago too. Same with squats.

You can't help but have a few beers. This was my first beer in months, so I don't feel bad at all. I actually got a buzz from it, which is weird. Usually it takes about 3 beers to get a little buzz going, but prior to this beer is the longest I have gone without drinking any alcohol at all.



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Ah, I gotcha. Well, I use weight low enough so that I can shrug the bar up to the point where I don't even have to drop under it. However, I do not curl the bar up. The force I exert on the bar is enough so that I merely have to snap my arms into place very quickly before the bar reaches it's peak.

up the weight a bit and start working on form and getting in the hole in a good catch position.



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Those cleans are pretty kewl...do you have a video of someone put more weight up? That seems like a tuff one to get proper form with but it does look damn kewl.

Haha beer didn't give me trouble at T-day it was the desserts LOL...its been killin me to eat so clean lately.



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Thanks Cow.... Yeah each time I perform the exercise I seem to feel more comfortable and am increasing my reps. Next week I will add 20-25 and go another week or so before adding again. With prior lower back problems I want to take this very slow. It is very motivational though to witness your own advancements. All I can say is that it is a beautiful thing. That is what keeps me so dedicated to bodybuilding.

As for beer, I hadn't drank a beer in like 2 years until last Christmas then I had like a 12 pack during the Christmas season, then didn't drink again for months and after that would have just a couple of beers from time to time. Drinking at moderation every holiday season is not a bad thing at all.... Even bodybuilders have to live life once and awhile too

I've been keeping an eye on your diet...looks good. I've been taking a dry run on my new years resolution and started 2 weeks ago with the exception of Thankgiving dinner. I've been eating protein meals every like 2-3 hours @ 40-50 grams of protein.

todays example so far...

meal 1 - 2 whole eggs 4 whites 2 cups of milk with 5 gs of creatine and 5 gs of L-glutamine (pre workout)

meal 2 - turkey sandwich white meat 2 cups milk with 5 gs creatine/ 5 l-glutamine. (post workout)

meal 3 - 1 cup yams / turkey / glass of milk (2 cups)

Well that is it so far...I have a few more meals to go..
and I finish last meal with 1 cup of cottage cheese and a bananna.


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You can't help but have a few beers. This was my first beer in months, so I don't feel bad at all. I actually got a buzz from it, which is weird. Usually it takes about 3 beers to get a little buzz going, but prior to this beer is the longest I have gone without drinking any alcohol at all.




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up the weight a bit and start working on form and getting in the hole in a good catch position.
I definitely will try that. Although that would sort of be moving away from making this a DE lift, but I'll make it workout. I definitely want to incorporate cleans into my routine periodically.



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Those cleans are pretty kewl...do you have a video of someone put more weight up? That seems like a tuff one to get proper form with but it does look damn kewl.

Haha beer didn't give me trouble at T-day it was the desserts LOL...its been killin me to eat so clean lately.
It is kind of tough to do right, but they are awesome. Nothing causes me to have such trouble breathing as 15 reps of cleans at the right weight.

I actually didn't eat any dessert on Thanksgiving, unless you count cranberry sauce. I was way too punished by my gorging on the standard sides and such.



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Thanks Cow.... Yeah each time I perform the exercise I seem to feel more comfortable and am increasing my reps. Next week I will add 20-25 and go another week or so before adding again. With prior lower back problems I want to take this very slow. It is very motivational though to witness your own advancements. All I can say is that it is a beautiful thing. That is what keeps me so dedicated to bodybuilding.

As for beer, I hadn't drank a beer in like 2 years until last Christmas then I had like a 12 pack during the Christmas season, then didn't drink again for months and after that would have just a couple of beers from time to time. Drinking at moderation every holiday season is not a bad thing at all.... Even bodybuilders have to live life once and awhile too

I've been keeping an eye on your diet...looks good. I've been taking a dry run on my new years resolution and started 2 weeks ago with the exception of Thankgiving dinner. I've been eating protein meals every like 2-3 hours @ 40-50 grams of protein.

todays example so far...

meal 1 - 2 whole eggs 4 whites 2 cups of milk with 5 gs of creatine and 5 gs of L-glutamine (pre workout)

meal 2 - turkey sandwich white meat 2 cups milk with 5 gs creatine/ 5 l-glutamine. (post workout)

meal 3 - 1 cup yams / turkey / glass of milk (2 cups)

Well that is it so far...I have a few more meals to go..
and I finish last meal with 1 cup of cottage cheese and a bananna.
Take your time on those deadlifts man. The benefits will all be wiped away if you rush into it and cause an injury.

Moderation is definitely key. We can't be perfect all the time. Not without driving ourselves insane.

Thanks, I have really been focusing on diet ever since I learned of it's importance. I guarantee that you will notice a huge difference in muscle mass if you stay focused on your diet.



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