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#121 |
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Simon
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Sox , I wouldnt waste my money on tri creatine if I were you , you said you already respond well to it ... Just look at the price of v-12 turbo compared to monohydrate .. compare the quantity .
Premier , Ive read countless studies that show the benefits of glutamine , not to mention that all the personnal trainers Ive asked said the same thing. I belive it does not work for everyone , but if it works for you , it is benefic. Oh ya , and the personnal trainers had no interrest in getting me to buy glutamine. Anyways , you always have to be stubborn do you premier , I was just making a comparaision and still you want to go into that subject , you know we dont agree , so why even bother ? Its not like I was saying to sox to try glutamine , it was just a for comparing . Anyways sox , buy tricreatine if you want but I think your blowing your money away for the sole reason that you respond well to monohydrate alone. Youll get a lot more bang for you bux with monohydrate. Do a bit of searching on that is my opinion , because as you can see premier can have a bias opinion. Get your own facts and make a good decision from that. Oh ya , check the supplements sections a few pages back , youll see a lot of threads on a similar topic (creatine , which one to use) check out the poll and of course the rest of the net ![]() See ya. |
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happy sumo
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Your right, I said to get monohydrate.. I mentioned swole, because the flavor was awesome, and it gives you a 'pump'. How am I bias? I dont have an unreasoned judgement. I go by scientific facts, and the facts are glutamine is worthless. I can provide articles if needed. I suggest we take this to PM ![]() |
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#123 |
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Simon
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Ya , no prob man ... Ive red articles again by scientific facts that prove otherwise , I dont have them in my favorites , but it would be my pleasure to make a little search , tonight I dont have time for that , as I must continue to study for an exam tomorrow , but ya , just pm me your articles and Ill pm you mine asap.
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When a goal is reached comes satisfaction . You're accomplished as a person when you surpass those goals .
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#124 |
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do work son
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Tuesday, December 7th 2004
Back: Weighted Pull-ups: 10 x 30 + 10 negatives Barbell Row: 15 x 155 14 x 145 15 x 135 Lat Pulldown (machine): 10 x 150 + 8 x 137.5 12 x 215 (close grip) Cable Pull Row (machine): 12 x 172.5 14 x 165 + 8 x 142.5 Dumbell Bent Over Row: 15 x 65 15 x 55 Another solid back day although I now am 100% positive that I was training improperly all of last year, which is definitly dissapointing. Each week I am just about dead come my back day leaving my shoulders out to dry and then being primed and ready for the bicep and tricep day. I still am going to maintain the five days per week routine because I think adding creatine will be exactly what I need. I am real excited for that. As for today, my lower back was so sore from the deadlifts on sunday that I had trouble doing the bent over rows to perfection which is why I did three sets of them. I had some good dumbell bent over rows, and I felt a real good squeeze when i supersetted with the light on the cable row machine. Some good pullups and negatives as well. Man am I siked to start taking creatine again. I have to have that attitude because as you may or may not know, I was sort of scared for health purposes. When I experienced with creatine last year, my workouts were excellent, now that I am doing some even more intense workouts, I am real pumped up. Anyways, thanks for stopping by. |
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#125 |
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do work son
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Wednesday, December 8th 2004
Shoulders & Traps Upright Rows: 15 x 80 14 x 90 Shoulder Press: 8 x 40 lb dumbell 6 x 45 " " Standing Military Press: 8 x 80 6 x 85 Shoulder Shrugs: 20 x 155 20 x 165 Lateral Raise (Machine): 8 x 70 + 4 9 x 65 + 4 Burnout Smith Machine Overhead Press, Negatives Only: 8 x 135 10 x 125 My back and just all around whole body was so sore today, that I cut out my cleans altogether. I had a real tough day because of that soreness, a real let down considering the surprise I am about to tell you. I was so excited to hop back on creatine that I just started using the jug I used last year, this time. I was so siked prior to my workout, I thought nothing could drag my down. The first dumbell I picked up I could already feel the soreness kick in, and after the first set I could feel the creatine kick in which was good besides the fact I suddenly became insanely thirsty. I don't think I am overtraining because I am not working anything that is sore, its more so the soreness in other muscles is effecting the effectiveness of the other workouts. I did drop some weight in a few of my lifts, so I might actually be overtraining which sucks. I have my bicep/tricep day tommorow ![]() |
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do work son
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I definitly have thought about it. Today and some other below average workouts in the past have got me thinking aswell. How often do you workout per week? |
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#128 |
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happy sumo
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It was 5 days a week. Mon/tues/wed/fri/sat. And sometimes I would take an extra day if I felt I needed it. But I was on a push/pull split.(chest/shoulder/tri - back/rhomboid/bi - legs)
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"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B. |
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do work son
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#130 |
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happy sumo
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Its just a basic push/pull split. I got it from a friend, but multiple people here use it. Or they will switch bi's with tri's, so they are hit more than once a week.
I feel I grow more hitting multiple parts a day. You just need to lower the volume. |
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P-side Inc.
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do work son
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do work son
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Is that not enough? |
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#134 |
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happy sumo
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Im not talking just about the days.. I am talking about the routine. You should switch it every 8 weeks or sooner.
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P-side Inc.
"the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B. |
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Isn't it late there in beantown to be awake still on a school night?
![]() Listen to Jake - a year is too long to be on the same split. IMO you should change it up every few months. |
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Fueled by Testosterone
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Location: Silver Spring, MD
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Nonsense. What does an arbitrary measure of time have to do with how frequently someone should change their split? Don't change it until results stagnate. You're still gaining. Why change your routine?
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do work son
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I would love to change it around, but I thought the only necessary change was to switch up your days and possibly change some excercises. No? |
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happy sumo
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Changing your routine.. your lifting one bodypart per day. That isnt that great of a split, or very effective IMO. Look into something more diverse, there is push/pull, westside, max ot, etc. Or come up with your own.
I change mine, even when results dont stagnate. Dont you get sick of doing the same shit over, and over? Do what you want.. I am only trying to help, by offering suggestions. |
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P-side Inc.
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#143 |
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do work son
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Monday, December 9th 2004
Biceps & Triceps: E-Z Bar Curls: 16 x 85 9 x 90 Hammer Curls: 10 x 45 lb dumbells 12 x 40 lb dumbells Dips: 25 lbs x 12 25 lbs x 10 + 10 negatives Cable Pushdowns: 20 x 100 15 x 110 Skullcrushers (super set..ted with standing barbell tricep extensions): 8 x 50 7 x 50 + 4 x 40 Solid workout today. I was real sore as of last night and was seriously considering switching todays workout to saturday but I was able to sneak it in this morning. It had to be the creatine that did it, because I was dead. My biceps were the real sore part, as there was no soreness in my triceps. I cut out two sets from my bicep portion, and did an even total of ten sets altogether. I hit my triceps real hard today. I took the advice and kept my elbows real close as I believe Flex recommended. My tris were dieing, which was great to see. Day 2 of creatine went well although I am still unsure of the correct dose to take. I will copy my post from the supplement thread upon completion and post it here aswell. Good bicep sets, great tricep sets. A solid end to the week. I am very seriously considering creating a four day split as opposed to the five days I currently am doing after I am off the creatine in a few weeks. Over thanksgiving, I took that thursday off, and that friday morning was one of the best workouts I've had since switching to HIT. I also might just change the days I work if thats possible to wednesday and saturday and instead workout on fridays. We'll see, I have some big decisions to make in the not so distant future. |
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#144 |
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do work son
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I may have found out why I responded well to creatine monohydrate when I traded last year, and that is because I used a table spoon as opposed to the recommended "heaping teaspoon."
Yes, I know, Im an idiot, I mixed up the "p" and the "b." All I want to know before I head off to the gym here shortly, and I'll be searching for it immediately after posting this, but how much protein do you take? Last year I took a table spoon before working out, and one table spoon after working out. Yesterday, I took a teaspoon before working out, and one teaspoon after working out. How much do you guys take? |
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Stay puffed, baby.
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I take 10 grams a day
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"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."
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