Just Du It - Experimentation in Adaptation

Rocco32 · 11-23-2004, 10:22 PM

What's going on in here, LOL

Where's the w/o's?

Du · 11-24-2004, 05:17 PM

Ughhhhhhh...

I havent lifted in 2.5 weeks. I started working, and Ive been leaving at 6am and getting back at 8pm... I cant get myself to lift.

Ill get there....

Rocco32 · 11-24-2004, 08:28 PM

Oh, sucks buddy. Hope things lighten up soon! Have a great Thanksgiving!

Luke9583 · 12-09-2004, 06:11 AM

You've got some huge ass arms buddy

Rocco32 · 12-14-2004, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke9583

You've got some huge ass arms buddy

Who are you talking to Luke?

Du · 01-05-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

What's going on in here, LOL

Where's the w/o's?

I was thinking of starting a new journal, but someone else tried it and proved it a bad idea, so Ill stick with this one.

WORKED OUT TONIGHT!!!!

First day back in a long time. It was one of the toughest workouts in a long time, just because my cardiovascular conditioning isnt there anymore. I needed it though, I needed a kick in the ass to make myself eat right and get back in there more. Here is what it looked like:

Warm up: 8 min on stationary bike
Dumbell bench: 75s X 12
Dumbell Row: 75s X 12
Dumbell Mil Press: 65 X 12
Overhead Tri Ext: 65 x 12
65 x 11
Dumbell Curls: 35s x 12
45 x 12

End of story.

The bench was tough. The bottom of it was easy, but upper half was severely lacking. That was my limiting factor - the upper half.

Row wasnt bad, although I just about failed at 12.

Mil press wasnt bad either, I prolly coulda gone a few more reps.

Tri extensions - the first set was tough, but the second was too easy. I just burned out at the end of the 2nd set. Definitely more weight next time.

Curls - way too easy. I need to use more weight next time, prolly at least to 50lbs each dumbell.

For some reason, Ive lost a lot of strength all over, except not as much in bi/tri. Im not uspet about that, jsut gives me a better starting position.

Overall, Im in a mixed mood about this. Im glad to be back and glad to be lifting, but not impressed with my loss of strength.

Thank God for muscle memory, right?

BOBCAT · 01-05-2005, 07:10 PM

Just remember what I told you matt...

You will get there bro..I told you about muscle memory and how effective it is out of personal experience...If you keep up, you will easily go back to where you were before within 2 weeks...

The most important thing is to eat a lot of protein and get enough cals and rest as well...

Rocco32 · 01-05-2005, 07:14 PM

Hey, that's still a great workout and heavier than I can go. Important thing is your back in the gym lifting, you'll surpass where you were in no time.

Du · 01-05-2005, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BOBCAT

Just remember what I told you matt...

You will get there bro..I told you about muscle memory and how effective it is out of personal experience...If you keep up, you will easily go back to where you were before within 2 weeks...

The most important thing is to eat a lot of protein and get enough cals and rest as well...

Ya, hopefully muscle memory will get me thruogh this. Im pretty upset with myself for letting it go so long, but ive had a lotta other shit goin on. But, Im back now, and with good diet and consistent heavy and intense lifting, ill be back sooner than later.

Good to see ya in here Berk, hope ya enjoy this place.

Du · 01-05-2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

Hey, that's still a great workout and heavier than I can go. Important thing is your back in the gym lifting, you'll surpass where you were in no time.

Everyone is at differentl levels naturally, so comparing me to you or you to Mike Mentzer doesnt really apply. That line of thinking may work for some people, but not me.

If it were my first post ever, Id be happy with it. But, I know I could do more, and I know where I was 6 weeks ago. Let me tell you, Ive gone downhill.

But showing up, like you said, is step one. Continuing to show up and get in there and lift is whats important, I completely agree with you.

You like my comment about multiple journals?

Rocco32 · 01-06-2005, 04:32 AM

Notice I didn't comment about YOUR comment on multiple journals?!?

Du · 01-06-2005, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

Notice I didn't comment about YOUR comment on multiple journals?!?

I wasnt really considering another journal, it was just a comment to bust you balls.

Rocco32 · 01-06-2005, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by du510

I wasnt really considering another journal, it was just a comment to bust you balls.

I know smartass!!!

You know, I've had quite a few layoffs in the past year because of my elbow. I had my bench up to 275 (which is amazing for me) and almost everytime I start back after a layoff, 185 seems impossibly heavy for me. Usually in less than a month, I'm back to where I normally am and sometimes farther. I know you know that crap, just reinforcing it!!

Du · 01-06-2005, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

I know smartass!!!

You know, I've had quite a few layoffs in the past year because of my elbow. I had my bench up to 275 (which is amazing for me) and almost everytime I start back after a layoff, 185 seems impossibly heavy for me. Usually in less than a month, I'm back to where I normally am and sometimes farther. I know you know that crap, just reinforcing it!!

That is a damn good weight. I know waht you mean though, Im just bein rough on myself. In all honesty, I am pretty upset about goin on this long without liftin. But, thats the last Ill bring it up.

Speaking of your elbow - I got pain in mine today. Right above the elbow on the outside.... is that tendonititis like yours? Its not very comfortable.

fantasma62 · 01-06-2005, 09:39 AM

Just coming by to thank you for the information. I didn't want to write this in Rock's journal, since this is not about him or his training, so I figured I'd do it here personally (or as personally as this can get...).
I am going to read the info. and get a better idea. Looking at the time spent by Rock in these workouts, I figure that there is very little rest between sets, which is what I need the most, since I have to drop, what, a gazillion pounds...actually I want to reach my 200 pound goal before my children grow old......je je
Anyway, thanks again for the info.

Rocco32 · 01-06-2005, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by du510

That is a damn good weight. I know waht you mean though, Im just bein rough on myself. In all honesty, I am pretty upset about goin on this long without liftin. But, thats the last Ill bring it up.

Speaking of your elbow - I got pain in mine today. Right above the elbow on the outside.... is that tendonititis like yours? Its not very comfortable.

Don't hurt your elbow buddy!!!! When in your w/o did it start to hurt? I have pain there sometime, my entire arm is fu*ked up so I have pain in different places at different times.

Rocco32 · 01-06-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fantasma62

Just coming by to thank you for the information. I didn't want to write this in Rock's journal, since this is not about him or his training, so I figured I'd do it here personally (or as personally as this can get...).
I am going to read the info. and get a better idea. Looking at the time spent by Rock in these workouts, I figure that there is very little rest between sets, which is what I need the most, since I have to drop, what, a gazillion pounds...actually I want to reach my 200 pound goal before my children grow old......je je
Anyway, thanks again for the info.

Hey Tony, don't worry about time in the gym. HIT is by far the best way to build muscle, which in turn will help you lose weight. And you can spend more time in the gym doing cardio if you need to. You rest inbetween sets enough to catch your breath and make the next set count, but you only do 1 set per exercise. You should be in and out in 20 min.

Du · 01-06-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

Don't hurt your elbow buddy!!!! When in your w/o did it start to hurt? I have pain there sometime, my entire arm is fu*ked up so I have pain in different places at different times.

It hurt just a little doin tri extensions, but wasnt bad. It wasnt till I got home that it actually hurt. Today, its just sore, along with my low tri. I am sure, after time, itll go away.

At least, thats my hope.

Du · 01-06-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

Hey Tony, don't worry about time in the gym. HIT is by far the best way to build muscle, which in turn will help you lose weight. And you can spend more time in the gym doing cardio if you need to. You rest inbetween sets enough to catch your breath and make the next set count, but you only do 1 set per exercise. You should be in and out in 20 min.

Why exactly did you decided against HIT? Any particular reason, or just wanted something new?

Du · 01-06-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fantasma62

Just coming by to thank you for the information. I didn't want to write this in Rock's journal, since this is not about him or his training, so I figured I'd do it here personally (or as personally as this can get...).
I am going to read the info. and get a better idea. Looking at the time spent by Rock in these workouts, I figure that there is very little rest between sets, which is what I need the most, since I have to drop, what, a gazillion pounds...actually I want to reach my 200 pound goal before my children grow old......je je
Anyway, thanks again for the info.

Not a problem boss, not at all. Ya rest time is low, supersets are almost a focal point. There are many, many variations around the same theme, and the best way to go is to read up on em all and decide your own route.

You ever check out Max-OT cardio? Thatd be best to lose your gazillion pounds.

Worked well for me.

Rocco32 · 01-06-2005, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by du510

Why exactly did you decided against HIT? Any particular reason, or just wanted something new?

I just like spending more time in the gym. I'm sure I'd get much better results from HIT but I don't want to give up my gym time. That's when I feel relaxed inside if you know what I mean.

Tony would hurt himself on Max OT at this point. He's just returning from an injury and shouldn't go to heavy right now.

Du · 01-06-2005, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

I just like spending more time in the gym. I'm sure I'd get much better results from HIT but I don't want to give up my gym time. That's when I feel relaxed inside if you know what I mean.

Tony would hurt himself on Max OT at this point. He's just returning from an injury and shouldn't go to heavy right now.

I hear ya, thats a good reason. I feel the same way, but I just make for a long warm up and cooldown. Im sure itll get to me more sooner than later.

I didnt know about the injury. I was suggesting Max-Ot Cardio though, not max-ot lifting. Either way though, he'll get just as hurt lifting HIT as Max-ot. Ya know what I mean? So i dont think either is a good option.

Rocco32 · 01-06-2005, 03:44 PM

IMO HIT can be pretty safe. I mean it helped me keep lifting last time when my elbow was at it's worst. Just don't pick a weight that you fail early in. I could be wrong, it happened once before

But yeah, Max OT Cardio would be good for Tony most definately!!!

fantasma62 · 01-06-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by du510

Not a problem boss, not at all. Ya rest time is low, supersets are almost a focal point. There are many, many variations around the same theme, and the best way to go is to read up on em all and decide your own route.

You ever check out Max-OT cardio? Thatd be best to lose your gazillion pounds.

Worked well for me.

I'll give that a shot thanks....I just bought the HIT book. Gonna get some reading now so that next week I can get this rolling....
Thanks again for all your help, I'll read about Max-OT cardio. I just hope that I won't die of a heart attack.....LOL

11-23-2004, 10:22 PM	#31
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	What's going on in here, LOL Where's the w/o's?
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11-24-2004, 05:17 PM	#32
Du Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,085 Photos: 5	Ughhhhhhh... I havent lifted in 2.5 weeks. I started working, and Ive been leaving at 6am and getting back at 8pm... I cant get myself to lift. Ill get there....
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11-24-2004, 08:28 PM	#33
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Oh, sucks buddy. Hope things lighten up soon! Have a great Thanksgiving!
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

12-09-2004, 06:11 AM	#34
Luke9583 Lucky Luke Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: idaho Posts: 5,379 Photos: 9	You've got some huge ass arms buddy
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01-05-2005, 07:10 PM	#37
BOBCAT Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2	Just remember what I told you matt... You will get there bro..I told you about muscle memory and how effective it is out of personal experience...If you keep up, you will easily go back to where you were before within 2 weeks... The most important thing is to eat a lot of protein and get enough cals and rest as well...
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01-05-2005, 07:14 PM	#38
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Hey, that's still a great workout and heavier than I can go. Important thing is your back in the gym lifting, you'll surpass where you were in no time.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

01-06-2005, 04:32 AM	#41
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Notice I didn't comment about YOUR comment on multiple journals?!?
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...

01-06-2005, 09:39 AM	#45
fantasma62 HIHT Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: SoFla Posts: 2,516	Just coming by to thank you for the information. I didn't want to write this in Rock's journal, since this is not about him or his training, so I figured I'd do it here personally (or as personally as this can get...). I am going to read the info. and get a better idea. Looking at the time spent by Rock in these workouts, I figure that there is very little rest between sets, which is what I need the most, since I have to drop, what, a gazillion pounds...actually I want to reach my 200 pound goal before my children grow old......je je Anyway, thanks again for the info.
	-Tony- HIHT: High Intensity Hybrid Training

01-06-2005, 03:44 PM	#53
Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	IMO HIT can be pretty safe. I mean it helped me keep lifting last time when my elbow was at it's worst. Just don't pick a weight that you fail early in. I could be wrong, it happened once before But yeah, Max OT Cardio would be good for Tony most definately!!!
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...