Just Du It - Experimentation in Adaptation

Rocco32 · 04-04-2005, 06:20 AM

Great last w/o in here Du! Are you going to up the weight some so you fail in a lower rep range or are you wanting it higher?

Du · 04-04-2005, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

Great last w/o in here Du! Are you going to up the weight some so you fail in a lower rep range or are you wanting it higher?

Holy shit, youre alive!

Thanks boss.

Im lookin to keep my failures within 12-20 rep ranges. I know its wide, Ill narrow it as I grow more experienced with this.

Rocco32 · 04-05-2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by du510

Holy shit, youre alive!

Thanks boss.

Im lookin to keep my failures within 12-20 rep ranges. I know its wide, Ill narrow it as I grow more experienced with this.

Yeah I'm alive LOL. Just some problems, but hey- who doesn't

I think that's a good range to start with, I remember I was hitting between 10-20 LOL when I was doing HIT. How's it working for you so far?

Du · 04-06-2005, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

Yeah I'm alive LOL. Just some problems, but hey- who doesn't

I think that's a good range to start with, I remember I was hitting between 10-20 LOL when I was doing HIT. How's it working for you so far?

Thats right. Everyone's got their cross to bear.

HIT is treating me okay so far. I like the results, feeling-wise. Im tellin ya though, its hell on my stomach. Every workout so far, I get insane nausea. Thats a major downfall.

I intended on lifting last night, but was called into the city at the last min for an important meeting.... at Yankee Stadium. Yep, I got VIP seats right behind the Sox dugout.... watched the boys beat up on the Sox a lil bit. Awesome game, then a big veal dinner in the city afterwards. Great day all in all.

So, I lifted tonight. Here si how it went-

Weighed in at 246

Warmup
5 min on bike

BB Calves
355*19 w/hold

Leg Ext
225*16

Leg Curl
210*16

3 min rest

BB Bench
225*9 (embarassing)

DB Mil Press
65s*9

Rope Pulls (like a cross between rope cable rows and face pulls)
170*19

4 min rest (nausea kickin my ass at this point)

Rope Pushdowns
150*13

DB Curls
40s*15

Then I went into the locker room and put my head between my legs. Im seriously reconsidering this whole HIT thing as a result of the nausea caused by it. I hate the feeling.

On a positive note, I tried the Maximum Pump samples... took 3 pills (half serving) before lifting... its a hell of a pump. Its honestly some really good stuff.

Started lifting at 19:13, ended at 19:43. Half hour workout.

We'll see when I go back again.

Archangel · 04-06-2005, 07:51 PM

Brother Du, don't give up on HIT. I remember going through the same thing. It will pass, hang in there!!!
Awesome W/O too there Brother

soxmuscle · 04-06-2005, 10:53 PM

Full body workouts must be extremely taxing. I say split it up...

Archangel · 04-07-2005, 03:40 AM

You can do like I did, an upper/lower split. And alternate the two w/o's!!!

Rocco32 · 04-07-2005, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Archangel

You can do like I did, an upper/lower split. And alternate the two w/o's!!!

I think that is a great idea. That's what I did when on HIT. Makes a difference. Also, are you drinking anything during your w/o? Maybe some ICE or even a bit of Dextrose and protein could really help that naseau.

Du · 04-07-2005, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Full body workouts must be extremely taxing. I say split it up...

They are. Have you ever tried them? Im seriously considering a split, but would like to keep at this for a little while longer at least.

Du · 04-07-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel

You can do like I did, an upper/lower split. And alternate the two w/o's!!!

I might. Im also thinking about an amended HIT routine - working each BP every two days for one heavy set each. I have the plan as a word document, its looking pretty solid. I might post it for you and others to critique. Would that be ok?

Du · 04-07-2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

I think that is a great idea. That's what I did when on HIT. Makes a difference. Also, are you drinking anything during your w/o? Maybe some ICE or even a bit of Dextrose and protein could really help that naseau.

Rocco - how long did you work HIT for? I remember you doin it, but dont remember how long. I remember you missed spending time in the gym, so you changed out. In your time doin it, how did you like it?

While lifting, I just drink water. Nothin more. Should I?

Rocco32 · 04-07-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by du510

Rocco - how long did you work HIT for? I remember you doin it, but dont remember how long. I remember you missed spending time in the gym, so you changed out. In your time doin it, how did you like it?

While lifting, I just drink water. Nothin more. Should I?

I did HIT for about a month. I really liked it but I split upper and lower. I drink ICE which is a mix of BCAA's and I don't get as sick in the gym as I used to. I definately recommend it or something of the sort

sara · 04-07-2005, 09:36 PM

Hey Matt!!
I'm glad your PMs working

DeadBolt · 04-07-2005, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by du510

While lifting, I just drink water. Nothin more. Should I?

I use to drink gatorade every so often if I was doing an intense w/o. The water would make me worse sometimes with all the intense lifting the gatorade would help settle my stomach. You could try that.

W/o's are looking really good bro...keep it up! What are your current goals?

Du · 04-07-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

I did HIT for about a month. I really liked it but I split upper and lower. I drink ICE which is a mix of BCAA's and I don't get as sick in the gym as I used to. I definately recommend it or something of the sort

Nice... So you worked your legs a hell of a lot harder than your upper body, eh? Sounds rough.

I'll spend the day tomorrow thinkin of somethin to sip on other than water....

Du · 04-07-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sara

Hey Matt!!
I'm glad your PMs working

I had this gut feeling that it was you!

Du · 04-07-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadBolt

I use to drink gatorade every so often if I was doing an intense w/o. The water would make me worse sometimes with all the intense lifting the gatorade would help settle my stomach. You could try that.

W/o's are looking really good bro...keep it up! What are your current goals?

I'd prefer apple juice over gatorade any day. I might try that.

I definitely think the water is playing a role.... but I need to keep hydrated, I sweat like a whore in church while lifting.

Thanks, I appreciate the positive remarks. My goals are same as always... just to lift heavy and feel good. Nothin more, nothin less.

soxmuscle · 04-07-2005, 10:35 PM

Never tried a full body workout, nor do I ever want to. On my leg day alone, I am left walking like a bitch for the next 3-4 days which wouldn't allow for proper recovery to work them out every other day.

Post that routine, I'd love to see it.

DeadBolt · 04-07-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by du510

I'd prefer apple juice over gatorade any day. I might try that.

I definitely think the water is playing a role.... but I need to keep hydrated, I sweat like a whore in church while lifting.

Thanks, I appreciate the positive remarks. My goals are same as always... just to lift heavy and feel good. Nothin more, nothin less.

Yea try some juice or something. You could just bring your normal water then a bottle of juice and every so often take a sip of the juice just to settle your stomach. My cousin use to do that..I would just do gatorade which was maybe 3 times in a year or deal with it.

I never enjoyed full body w/o's....just couldn't get into them. I like upper/lower splits but never a full body w/o. I stay away from em lol.

I love your goals heh...those will be mine once I start training again.

sara · 04-08-2005, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by du510

I had this gut feeling that it was you!

Well, I'm glad to see you there

Archangel · 04-08-2005, 03:39 PM

Brother Du, definatly post your w/o routine, sounds pretty interesting!!!

Du · 04-08-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadBolt

Yea try some juice or something. You could just bring your normal water then a bottle of juice and every so often take a sip of the juice just to settle your stomach. My cousin use to do that..I would just do gatorade which was maybe 3 times in a year or deal with it.

I never enjoyed full body w/o's....just couldn't get into them. I like upper/lower splits but never a full body w/o. I stay away from em lol.

I love your goals heh...those will be mine once I start training again.

I might. Probably apple juice. I used to take creatine/grape juice before lifting and didnt get nausea, but I wasnt lifting HIT either. I haven't taken my creatine/grape juice cocktail in months now, though... so who knows. Im lifting again tomorow, Ill try it.

Maybe V8?

Du · 04-08-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Never tried a full body workout, nor do I ever want to. On my leg day alone, I am left walking like a bitch for the next 3-4 days which wouldn't allow for proper recovery to work them out every other day.

Post that routine, I'd love to see it.

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Originally Posted by Archangel

Brother Du, definatly post your w/o routine, sounds pretty interesting!!!

Sox: Well right now Im lifting twice a week, so I get a few days in between. Monday/Thursday or Wenesday / Saturday. Usually a few days in between, its not as rough as one would imagine.

Arch: Ill attach it, it does seem good to me.

This routine is somewhat of a variation on HIT / DC / etc....

All mass (compound) movements work in warmup sets, then a heavy set.

For example - Mondays

"Incline Press - 4 sets 8 rep range"
That means 3 warm up lighter weight sets of 3-4 reps, then one full weight set of 8.

The isolation movements - work the heavy weights to fail at each set in the intended rep range.

I hope my explanation makes at least a little sense. Just let me know if it doesnt.

Rocco32 · 04-08-2005, 08:05 PM

Looks very interesting buddy. Now, that one "working" set... is that HIT style or to failure ( I think there's a big difference). If it's HIT style I'd say it's overtraining, just to failure

I'd really like to see how you like it.

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04-06-2005, 07:51 PM	#185
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,178 Photos: 4	Brother Du, don't give up on HIT. I remember going through the same thing. It will pass, hang in there!!! Awesome W/O too there Brother
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Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,178 Photos: 4	You can do like I did, an upper/lower split. And alternate the two w/o's!!!
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soxmuscle do work son Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I will eat your face Posts: 7,946 Photos: 10	Never tried a full body workout, nor do I ever want to. On my leg day alone, I am left walking like a bitch for the next 3-4 days which wouldn't allow for proper recovery to work them out every other day. Post that routine, I'd love to see it.
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04-08-2005, 03:39 PM	#201
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,178 Photos: 4	Brother Du, definatly post your w/o routine, sounds pretty interesting!!!
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Rocco32 UNLEASH THE BEAST Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 22,316 Photos: 18	Looks very interesting buddy. Now, that one "working" set... is that HIT style or to failure ( I think there's a big difference). If it's HIT style I'd say it's overtraining, just to failure I'd really like to see how you like it.
	I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain...